On day 4 of Fadogia Agrestis (T-Force)....

So I have been watching my housekeeper this morning,and I got a hard on just looking at her butt and feet.

I started following her around the house,just going behind her and watching her body,thinking she would get it so deep that it would come out her mouth.

She`s a 57 year old gypsy woman with mustache.

And this was after jerking off extensively last night.And two nights before that.

It seems my sexual desire stays on now .Otherwise,if I jerk off or have sex,the next day I have no desire at all.Only after a few days I get it back.

Other than my maid,when I see a hot girl in a skirt on the street,I go BERSERK!


I might add,that if Fadogia is doing this,that Fadogia doesn`t really motivate you to jerk off only,like Tribestan or Tribosten would.

When I`m on Tribosten,I really like jerking off,and every porn feels like I am watching porn the first time in my life.

On fadogia,porn is not so special.It`s a different feeling,like I want to get some ***** and ass right now,and pound it like a wild animal!
 
Now,I am still not sure Fadogia is doing the work here.

The thing is,up until a few days ago,I felt nothing special from it.

Then I started taking some low dose 5-htp,very low dose,10-15 mg a day.

I have never taken it before.

The very next day my libido turned into a horse.


There can be a couple of things that happened:

1.Fadogia has kicked in just now and is doing this

2.5-htp is doing this(I have heard that low dose can provoke libido rather than diminishing it)

3.5-htp has raised my serotonin to normal level(which I can feel is doing),and it has allowed Fadogia to work properly,because I know that there is no libido when your neurotransmitters are not in order,and that Fadogia is doing this


My serotonin have been pretty low for some time now,and I have been unresponsive even to LJ100,which would usually blow me away.
 
And if the libido persists,I will be doing bloods to see if there`s an effect on total T.

Not that I care if it boosts test,if it works for me.

I just hope that it is not just a free test booster,cause I have LJ100 for this purpose,and it`s very effective.
 
And also,how long should one run Fadogia anyway?

And how should off time be,in order to it be effective the next time?

And also,for you Fadogia responders,does this effect stay all the time you are on Fadogia?

I`ll probably run it 4 weeks this time,followed by 10 days off time without test boosters.

Then,I need to do an Inhibit-P log....:)
 
What-tha-**** is in this fadogia monster????

I just talked to a girl,that previously was hesitant on going out with me.

Saucy redhaired milf-shorthaired,awesome body but tiny perky tits-which I like.

I got a boner while I was talking to her.


I didn`t push it last time I asked her but this time I was more decisive and motivated.

She was more motivated too,prolly because I gave her the cold shoulder since last time.

So I`m gonna take her out for drinks in a couple days.

Damn you Fadogia(or 5-htp)!!!!

I`m married!
 
read a research that said alot of the testboosters are not working correct or even labeled, if i remember correctly it is the stem from the plant that has alot of the effects alot of the time products contain the pure plant "so it really does not work the same way if it even does work" im not sure where i found that but it was actually about T-force and that study said it has to Fadogia but not the stem working ingridient
 
But all jokes aside,let`s not get carried away here yet.

Some time must pass until I can say that Fadogia is actually working.

I do feel good right now but it could be a number of things.

It could be the coming of spring and the sunny warm weather I`m having....or maybe the low-dose 5-htp.


All in all,I feel like one should feel at my age.

Totally normal and horny.

Like I felt up until a few years ago,until life disappointed me so much that it killed my massive libido that I had.

My testosterone hasn`t changed at all in my last 6 years,but the disappointment....
 
Although,the effect did subside today,during the day.

I got a little scared there,because I don`t want to lose it.

We`ll see.

It`s maybe best that it subsides from now and then,it`s kinda difficult to be sleeping otherwise.
 
Profion said:
read a research that said alot of the testboosters are not working correct or even labeled, if i remember correctly it is the stem from the plant that has alot of the effects alot of the time products contain the pure plant "so it really does not work the same way if it even does work" im not sure where i found that but it was actually about T-force and that study said it has to Fadogia but not the stem working ingridient
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I research a lot.

And I don`t buy any herb anymore,without it being standardized properly for the active ingredient.

However,when it comes to Fadogia,there isn`t one.

Why don`t those companies and individuals that bash T-Force or Promax V2,claiming they are not put together properly,come out with an extract themselves?

I see lots of posts like this but no alternative.

No one has yet identified the active ingredient in F.


Meanwhile,I`m using FadogiaPure cause I`ve concluded it`s worth a try.
 
And also....

This herb is not all libido.

It has some other effects,at times.

Like being euphoric,and having pleasant sensations.

Kinda having something to do with endorphins.


I`m not sure I like this.

While I was trying to find what Fadogia`s mechanism of action is,I read on one single forum,a thread from 5 years ago,claiming it`s some kind of opioid modulator.

Don`t know the significance of this,but I once,long ago,has a bit of a problem with the opiate substance.....
Not sure if Fadogia would be messing with me in some way regarding this.

And I did have 2 dreams in the last couple of days-craving dreams,that could indicate some messing of this sort.
I`ll see.....
 
BTW....

To anyone trying out a libido-booster....

If you`re feeling down,depressed,and unsatisfied in life more than usual....

Get your serotonin in order before or simultaneously with trying the test booster.

For me,not even the most powerful free-test booster on the planet,LJ100,which I had tremendous results with,would work when I was very depressed.

In such situation,add a low-dose 5-htp.

You`d be surprised how much neurotransmitters like serotonine and dopamine have to do with sex drive and well-being.

They are without a doubt,more relevant,than testosterone.

I`ve had low testosterone and normal serotonin,and higher testosterone with low serotonin.

In my experience,people add too much relevance to testosterone than it should be,when it comes to mood and sex drive.
 
I should change the title of this thread to "My Fadogia Monologue Rant"

Seriously,the only problem with this wonderful herb(if it is her doing the work) is
this "Have To Go Out And Get Some *****" attitude!

Rubbing one off isn`t desirable.

And going to the whorehouse neither.

I`m motivated to earn some ***** the hard way!


And I`m a lazy guy!

Please help!
 
I`d like to bang anything that is woman.


I hope I won`t start wanting to bang men too?

That really would not be cool.
 
Great feedback and weird nobody replies or give you a thumb up for all your work :arms:

I'd agree with you on testosterone not being most important for libido and also for me Tongkat Ali 200:1 works the best on libido and overall well being.

Fadogia is one of few substances I haven't tried yet from test boosters that I'd be willing to try.

Still I haven't found any substance yet that would make be want to bang any chick and at same time be hard as steel which simple sexy chat with some girl produce without taking anything.

So I guess your own brain and imagination when girl gets you in the mood beats any pill popping and waiting such effects will come on it's own.

That's talking about legal OTC pills not illegal stuff - guess similar as OTC test booster will never produce same effects as illegal steroids on building muscles.
 
I am on 4 caps on t force with lico and xfa when I did fadogia (in bioforge) I remember having very good regeneration, working out like crazy and was still doing the beat as a cop night shift
 
Well,my mood has crashed totally.

As I suspected,5-htp builds tolerance extremely quickly.

Although,I read that the tolerance is also reversed very quickly,so I will be trying an every second day dosing of 5-htp.

I also read that Tyrosine supplementation might prevent tolerance to 5-htp,but I do not put much faith into this.


Accordingly,all Fadogia effects have ceased.

It`s a sad day ladies and gentlemen,and I do not blame Fadogia for this.

When nothing in life gets you motivated,and your brain is depleted,no test booster will work it`s wonders.
 
Killler said:
What the heck are you talking about?


I am expecting something for my money off course.

At least a libido bump.

Because it`s not an anabolic,I shouldn`t expect any effect at all?

I read how people feel like alpha on fadogia,and their sex drive is through the roof.


And there`s 90 mg l-dopa in Endotest,sufficient to have a very strong effect.
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I could have loaded T-Force with Yohimbine and Tribulus....the way most companies do...to trick you into thinking you're getting increased test levels when in fact you're just experiencing a libido increase.

Wouldnt you rather actually have a real increase in testosterone? Jeez. This immediate gratification thing is ridiculous.
 
custom said:
I could have loaded T-Force with Yohimbine and Tribulus....the way most companies do...to trick you into thinking you're getting increased test levels when in fact you're just experiencing a libido increase.

Wouldnt you rather actually have a real increase in testosterone? Jeez. This immediate gratification thing is ridiculous.
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Read the thread you idiot,I love Fadogia and T-Force!!!!

You`ve made a quality product.
 
Killler said:
What-tha-**** is in this fadogia monster????

I just talked to a girl,that previously was hesitant on going out with me.

Saucy redhaired milf-shorthaired,awesome body but tiny perky tits-which I like.

I got a boner while I was talking to her.


I didn`t push it last time I asked her but this time I was more decisive and motivated.

She was more motivated too,prolly because I gave her the cold shoulder since last time.

So I`m gonna take her out for drinks in a couple days.

Damn you Fadogia(or 5-htp)!!!!

I`m married!
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Patience is a virtue.

:)

Another conversion for T-Force.
 
custom said:
Patience is a virtue.

:)

Another conversion for T-Force.
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Won`t work properly until i find a solution for my depression.

I know this for a fact.

Another monstrous libido and test booster,LJ100,has worked for me great every cycle I took it,until I fell into a depression.
You wouldn`t believe it,but in those circumstances it failed.
 
custom said:
I could have loaded T-Force with Yohimbine and Tribulus....the way most companies do...to trick you into thinking you're getting increased test levels when in fact you're just experiencing a libido increase.

Wouldnt you rather actually have a real increase in testosterone? Jeez. This immediate gratification thing is ridiculous.
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Thank god you didn`t load T-Force with yohimbe,that would be a disaster.

I hate when they do that.That`s garbage.
 
custom said:
I could have loaded T-Force with Yohimbine and Tribulus....the way most companies do...to trick you into thinking you're getting increased test levels when in fact you're just experiencing a libido increase.

Wouldnt you rather actually have a real increase in testosterone? Jeez. This immediate gratification thing is ridiculous.
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Should I spend money on bloods?

How much do you believe in this?


I really don`t care if it is a test booster,I`m satisfied with the sexual monster.

But I may do bloods if I`m not lazy.
 
ahh123 said:
I'd agree with you on testosterone not being most important for libido and also for me Tongkat Ali 200:1 works the best on libido and overall well being.
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100:1 hasn`t worked for me.

But LJ100™(18-28% Eurypeptides) is another story. A different world all together.

You might wanna try it one time,since you are a tongkat fan like me....
 
ahh123 said:
Still I haven't found any substance yet that would make be want to bang any chick and at same time be hard as steel which simple sexy chat with some girl produce without taking anything.

So I guess your own brain and imagination when girl gets you in the mood beats any pill popping and waiting such effects will come on it's own.
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Agreed.

A sexy chat/flirt,and hitting on babes regularly will provide a libido surge like no other,and will you need a booster.
 
Killler said:
Agreed.

A sexy chat/flirt,and hitting on babes regularly will provide a libido surge like no other,and will you need a booster.
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However,this was not possible for me for the 3 years I have been married.

So I kinda shutdown inside.

I have gone banged escorts in order to substitute for this,but it is definitely not the same thing,and not so satisfying,not by a long shot.


That`s why I`m gonna start picking up chicks pretty soon.

This is not a normal state for a man to be.

We were designed to run around and spread our seed.Unlike women.

I have explained all this to my wife numerous times.

I even told her I need to bang some chicks,in order to be happy.

I told her I would go to escorts some time,and she said she would let me.

Then,when I finally did it,I went straight to her and I told her.I don`t like to keep anything form her.

And she threw a tantrum.

She`s playing dumb.

She knows I love her and that she suits me just fine,and that I would not ever leave her.

But nevertheless,she gives me a hard time about this and freaks out.

Also,she`s been not interested in sex herself for the last 2 years,while she was a beast in the beginning.

**** that.


I gave her a nice home,and all my love and support. I`m not cheap on her either.




I`m going out and banging something.

She knows very well I`m only hers.

If she won`t let me have some fun and enjoy myself,and decides to cause problems,then so be it.


If she lets me have some fun....then I`ll love her even more.
 
Killler said:
However,this was not possible for me for the 3 years I have been married.

So I kinda shutdown inside.

I have gone banged escorts in order to substitute for this,but it is definitely not the same thing,and not so satisfying,not by a long shot.


That`s why I`m gonna start picking up chicks pretty soon.

This is not a normal state for a man to be.

We were designed to run around and spread our seed.Unlike women.

I have explained all this to my wife numerous times.

I even told her I need to bang some chicks,in order to be happy.

I told her I would go to escorts some time,and she said she would let me.

Then,when I finally did it,I went straight to her and I told her.I don`t like to keep anything form her.

And she threw a tantrum.

She`s playing dumb.

She knows I love her and that she suits me just fine,and that I would not ever leave her.

But nevertheless,she gives me a hard time about this and freaks out.

Also,she`s been not interested in sex herself for the last 2 years,while she was a beast in the beginning.

**** that.


I gave her a nice home,and all my love and support. I`m not cheap on her either.




I`m going out and banging something.

She knows very well I`m only hers.

If she won`t let me have some fun and enjoy myself,and decides to cause problems,then so be it.


If she lets me have some fun....then I`ll love her even more.
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WOW :eek: is all I can say.
 
BTW She`s not quite right in the head either.

When I told her I had sex with an escort,her first reaction was to take to the bedroom and bang the universe out of me.

And she usually doesn`t wanna bang at all.



Then I went to the bordello a couple more times.

I didn`t tell her.

She found out by chance later on.She banged me immediately.

She threw a horrific tantrum too.

Later,once,I started telling her about the whores I`ve been with.She banged me in the middle of that talk.


Crazy woman.
 
Killler said:
BTW She`s not quite right in the head either.

When I told her I had sex with an escort,her first reaction was to take to the bedroom and bang the universe out of me.

And she usually doesn`t wanna bang at all.



Then I went to the bordello a couple more times.

I didn`t tell her.

She found out by chance later on.She banged me immediately.

She threw a horrific tantrum too.

Later,once,I started telling her about the whores I`ve been with.She banged me in the middle of that talk.


Crazy woman.
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Just not my kind of marriage
 
I was walking the pooch now,it`s the middle of the night here,and I hear heels walking.

Then a poodle runs behind me.

Finally,I see it`s owner.

Tall,black haired woman,in a black dress,with legs for miles,and a gorgeous sexy face.

I didn`t notice her tits,I`m not a tit guy anyway,but she was a real sex bomb.


Anyway,her dog won`t go with her,just following me and my pooch,so I offered to go her way(like I`m already going that way).

Chatted her up a bit.

She`s like:"OMG I can`t believe how my heals are loud in the middle of the night,I`m gonna wake everybody up".

And I`m like: "I like the sound very much...; It`s just not samrt to go like that in the middle of the night".

So we parted ways.

I didn`t really make any kind of move at all. Neither I should when first seeing a girl at night in the park.

And it`s in my neighborhood,so my wife would probably kick my head open.

She is way too hot,I don`t know.

And she seems to be in the 25-32 age group,which is really not my style right now.
Most of these frustrate me,all they really wanna have is children,and not much fun.So not really good for me.


But one good thing is that I`m sparked again.
I`m very horny,not so horny like the last days,but I stay on,and that`s what matters.
Otherwise,when I``m depressed,I NOTHING GETS ME HORNY.
And how is it possible that I type so much?
 
Don`t know if I should wait it out,maybe it comes back....

Or crack open a bottle of NOW Dopa or PES Erase....


I have been taking some 5-htp,for 7 days already,but it`s such a tiny dose-15 mg,that I suppose it could not have lowered my libido.
 
Well,I cracked open a bottle of NOW Mucuna Dopa.

I figure,if I`m running a low dose 5-HTP I should also run a low dose L-DOPA.

Both are dosed 15 mg.

That`s a tiny dose,so I hope l-dopa isn`t gonna give me side effects.And I hope it`s not addictive.

5-HTP has been working great as an antidepressant from the start,but I started to feel unrewarded and my libido is not so good.



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As for Fadogia....



I don`t know guys.

It`s not so unbelievably raging as it should be.

Takes 10 days to kick in.
Works for 3,4 days.
Then stops.


Motivates you to hit on a chick here and there.And you feel like an animal when you see a skirt.

Does not motivate to bang the wife.

Does not make porn more interesting.


It does give you kind of a tingly pleasurable feeling in your balls often.

Don`t know if that is the HCG effect that is talked about.

My balls are already huge,and they haven`t gotten any bigger on this herb.

Don`t know if I will do bloods,and don`t know if I will be running this for long,if it doesn`t start working again.

I have given up doing bloods sort-of,after so many disappointing lab results,like with Testopro,DAA,Maca etc.




IMO this Fadogia stuff isn`t potent enough to be used as a standalone,for someone wanting to boost his porn star mentality,and who wants to cover all the bases.

I`m gonna probably gonna stack it like this next time:
Tribosten(20% protodioscin) 250 mg X 3
LJ 100 25-50 mg X 1
T-Force 4 X 1

This for 4-6 weeks,and then a 4-6 week break.
 
I think 15mg of L-DOPA won't do anything for you considering half life is around 1h and most of it gets metabolized before passing blood-brain barrier to reach brain and have effect.

That's why usually L-DOPA is taken with substance that blocks dopamine decarboxylase (DDI) or else you just "feel" peripheral dopamine side effects.

Entire body neurotransmitter and hormonal systems and it's positive and negative loophole are much more complicated than taking one OTC supplement for raising serotonin then dopamine and let's throw in one test booster...

Raising dopamine can be achieved as well with several mechanism and from potency and amount of mechanism effecting it depends the effect and potential abuse, tolerance, addiction, withdrawal symptoms...

Most potent dopaminergics are illegal and you can go to jail just having them in your possession cause they work so powerfully on raising dopamine levels & doing so also destroying your body (cocaine, amphetamines...) so ask yourself why are OTC dopaminergics not prosecuted since they also raise dopamine levels (hint cause they don't work or are underdosed to have potent and long lasting effect).

If someone wanted to make great OTC dopaminergic at least they should throw in DDI - without it it's like taking something that you'll feel maybe for few days then nothing once your body starts with negative loophole.
 
ahh123 said:
I think 15mg of L-DOPA won't do anything for you considering half life is around 1h and most of it gets metabolized before passing blood-brain barrier to reach brain and have effect.

That's why usually L-DOPA is taken with substance that blocks dopamine decarboxylase (DDI) or else you just "feel" peripheral dopamine side effects.

Entire body neurotransmitter and hormonal systems and it's positive and negative loophole are much more complicated than taking one OTC supplement for raising serotonin then dopamine and let's throw in one test booster...

Raising dopamine can be achieved as well with several mechanism and from potency and amount of mechanism effecting it depends the effect and potential abuse, tolerance, addiction, withdrawal symptoms...

Most potent dopaminergics are illegal and you can go to jail just having them in your possession cause they work so powerfully on raising dopamine levels & doing so also destroying your body (cocaine, amphetamines...) so ask yourself why are OTC dopaminergics not prosecuted since they also raise dopamine levels (hint cause they don't work or are underdosed to have potent and long lasting effect).

If someone wanted to make great OTC dopaminergic at least they should throw in DDI - without it it's like taking something that you'll feel maybe for few days then nothing once your body starts with negative loophole.
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I just want to replenish dopamine a little.

I would be glad if l-dopa would not produce the effects like the dopaminergic compounds you mention.

I know how many of them work,I have browsed through their methods of action.

It`ll be ok for me if the body gets used to the dopamine-I don`t want any euphoric effects.

Addiction sucks ass so much.
 
BTW Fadogia does not work anymore.

I don`t know if it worked at all-maybe it was the sunny weather that made me horny.

In any case,we won`t have to guess,as BLOODS will be in tonight! :)
 
Well,the winning streak of test boosters continues.

Bloods have come in.

Testosterone HAS NOT CHANGED
 
I am my usual pitiful self when it comes to testosterone.

A measly 11.2 nmol/l.

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How would I rate T-Force,from my point of view?


Well,it takes 10 days to feel,kicks in for 3,4 days (I am not sure if the libido was from T-Force,and not just the summer weather),
and then leaves completely.

Does not boost test.

Doesn`t have any side effects,except for stomach discomfort if you take more than 1 capsule at a time.

Only cost me 17.99$.


I give it 2 / 10.
 
Killler said:
How would I rate T-Force,from my point of view?


Well,it takes 10 days to feel,kicks in for 3,4 days (I am not sure if the libido was from T-Force,and not just the summer weather),
and then leaves completely.

Does not boost test.

Doesn`t have any side effects,except for stomach discomfort if you take more than 1 capsule at a time.

Only cost me 17.99$.


I give it 2 / 10.
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That's a harsh review.
 
I am not sure if FA does not have problem with standardization or maybe better way to put it purity,

like ecdy it is a hit or miss with individuals, but also some products seem to work others have problems, heard poor reviews on iforce fadogia, original t force, the new one that I am using currently (as a stacks licogenix and XFA) supposedly is fine.

Bioforge had very good reviews and they used it also the Huge would never go into putting something that does not work into a product.

I am sad to hear of your poor expirience, for me it works with a little bit more aggression that influences my performance in a positive manner;

although I turn to be an ******* especially at the gym.

Nevertheless I decided to do tropionol xp another FA product and either anabeta elite or if I can man pr-xt (have not seen it with retailers here) and depending on cash might look into compound 20 cause it looks promising.
 
Well I've tested many OTC test boosters and also haven't found anything reliable or to work for more than a week then back to baseline.

Also for a product that's less than $20/month you can expect reliable results even if it worked great during 1st time you tried it.

Similar was my experience with Endosurge that worked amazing 1st time I took it - I mean on day 3 just chatting with a girl and my dick was up & hard like during puberty then after day 10 no effect or slightly over baseline.

HCGenerate similar but only worked like day 3-5 then no change from my normal response when I don't take anything so either placebo effect or body adapts so fast to force negative feedback.

If any OTC product for $20/month would make long term and reliable effect it would be most talked product like when Viagra came out - everybody talked about it.

I guess getting maybe test boost up to 30% can be expected from OTC test booster but not for more than a week or 2 then back to baseline.
 
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