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Getting bigger and leaner with Alpha, 550, and Epi-V.

Lol. If I had known I would've said something too... Especially your size bro, your not about to become Eric Cartman anytime soon. You shouldn't worry about that till your hitting 180+. Eat like there's no tomorrow bro. Nothing less than 3000 a day. Hit 4000 and you'll really start growing. You're not about to get fat anytime soon, period. Just went through this with my brother. He started at like ~145. He wasnt tracking his diet and wasn't growing. I slapped him upside the head and told him if he wasn't going to take this shyt seriously then I would no longer help him or hook him up with supps. Low and behold, he starts eating and tracking... 2 months later he's up to 165-170 off 550-xd! Now that's what I'm talking about
 
I understand PF and its not about getting "fat" it's about gaining and BF% the point behind this was to gain purely lean muscle. Hence the reason my cals are where they are. I do understand eat eat eat, that is what I did one my short 1 andro cycle and that's probably why I gained 20lbs, my strength is going up and the BF is dropping as of right now which is what to point was suppose to be. The next cycle will be more along the lines of eat eat eat. Hopefully that makes since.
 
PREracing25 said:
I understand PF and its not about getting "fat" it's about gaining and BF% the point behind this was to gain purely lean muscle. Hence the reason my cals are where they are. I do understand eat eat eat, that is what I did one my short 1 andro cycle and that's probably why I gained 20lbs, my strength is going up and the BF is dropping as of right now which is what to point was suppose to be. The next cycle will be more along the lines of eat eat eat. Hopefully that makes since.
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Makes sense bro. What's was your BF to start?
 
Not sure. Just going mirror wise. Whatever anyone could guess. All I have is the starting pictures at the beginning of the log.
 
The side profile is deceiving, makes your abdomen look larger than it is. That said based on your weight, height, and photos I'd put you somewhere around 12-14. I still recommend upping cals to the 3000+ range. Its a full time job eating like that but it will pay off. Especially where youre at now, youre primed for gains. I was 135 at 18. Hit it hard for 4 years all natty and made it up to 175 before I played with anabolics. I can still make pretty good natty gains on a bulking diet and hit about 200-205 but that is serious full time work. If youre worried about gaining BF do some LISS or HIIT 3 times a week or more. 1-alpha is for bulking bro so Id use it for that, not that it wont work the way you want it to. I just think you should concentrate on growing now, then switch to recomp then cut, while on 550xd and EpiV respectively
 
You guys make solid points that I will definitely implement in the future.
 
Theres always next time, if there is a next time. Ah shyt Im getting all philosophical up in hur.....
 
Oh there will be a next time. Winter cycle lol
 
snagencyV2.0 said:
the only thing certain in this life, is death
(you can avoid taxes if you don't mind going to jail)

had to join the philosophical circle jerk
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As Descartes once said: ....

Just kidding I don't remember what Descartes said LOL
 
You guys make me laugh.
 
Man what all ^^^ these guys said. You want to gain right? Eat! Dont e afraid of putting on a little bit of fat, once you bridge across to epi-v that will get sorted pretty quick. I would use the 1 andro to bulk my ass off then use the epi-v to lean out at the end! Just my .02c man nothing philosophical from me it's far too early over here for that lol :D
 
PalmFist said:
The side profile is deceiving, makes your abdomen look larger than it is. That said based on your weight, height, and photos I'd put you somewhere around 12-14. I still recommend upping cals to the 3000+ range. Its a full time job eating like that but it will pay off. Especially where youre at now, youre primed for gains. I was 135 at 18. Hit it hard for 4 years all natty and made it up to 175 before I played with anabolics. I can still make pretty good natty gains on a bulking diet and hit about 200-205 but that is serious full time work. If youre worried about gaining BF do some LISS or HIIT 3 times a week or more. 1-alpha is for bulking bro so Id use it for that, not that it wont work the way you want it to. I just think you should concentrate on growing now, then switch to recomp then cut, while on 550xd and EpiV respectively
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good advice Im around 205 now and my cals are like 3.1+ k I still manage to be pretty lean

that being said grow man, you are using dem receptors why not get the most bang for your buck
 
Il make changes from here on out. Thank you guys.
 
If you keep your calories clean and step them up within reason, there should be no worries about getting "fat". That being said dont bump your cals straight to the top. Slow and steady wins the race.
 
Yeah well the plan is to bring carbs up and in turn the cals will go up but I'm keeping fats low.
 
^^ fats are pretty crucial, in a growth phase..cutting too for that matter
a typical good lean growth phase is running a 40/40/20 macro split..
now there are a lot of variations and ways you can go here, including having either more carbs or more fat - or both, depending on your individual metabolism
my guess for best for you current would be 40/30/30 c/p/f, check it out
 
snagencyV2.0 said:
^^ fats are pretty crucial, in a growth phase..cutting too for that matter
a typical good lean growth phase is running a 40/40/20 macro split..
now there are a lot of variations and ways you can go here, including having either more carbs or more fat - or both, depending on your individual metabolism
my guess for best for you current would be 40/30/30 c/p/f, check it out
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I'm in a 40/30/30 right now. Loving me some carbs. Nom nom...
 
Eating is a full-time gig with gettin bigger and staying that way, so you might as well get comfy with it. You wanna be the beast you gotta eat like one - lots of protein from other animals, many times a day.

Doing good work in here.
 
Thanks Hyde, today is going to be legs. I think I'm going to see where I'm at on squats, first step break 225 which will be my third set, fourth set if I hit 225 will be either 235 or 245 depending on how 225 goes.
 
On a true max effort a lot of ppl's chest will come too far fwd out of the hole, heavily loading the lower back. This could be bad for you, to say the least. Be careful and get a spotter(s) if you intend to push to failure on max effort.

Could consider triples up to a 3RM if you get uncomfy with that idea? Good luck!
 
Hyde said:
On a true max effort a lot of ppl's chest will come too far fwd out of the hole, heavily loading the lower back. This could be bad for you, to say the least. Be careful and get a spotter(s) if you intend to push to failure on max effort.

Could consider triples up to a 3RM if you get uncomfy with that idea? Good luck!
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I only go as low as 3 reps.
 
Day 23 - 151.9 (+6.4lbs) Leg Day

Well I felt pretty good today the squats felt really good and I'm glad I hit those 2 plate. No lower back pain for the most part. However my left side groin is hurting pretty bad. I have pulled it 5+ times and its never healed from Ice hockey in high school so I may have my ART doctor take a look at my next appointment. I fell good today, my fiancé last night looked at me and said my pecs are looking really good granted she may be a little bias. Thanks for the help guys, today I'm going to shoot for 200p, 200c, and 40 fats, give or take a few.


BB squats
135x5
185x5
225x3 (PR)
135x10

Plated machine squats - reverse
90x10
180x10
270x10
360x10

Seated calf raises
Started at 70lbs and dropped by 10 pounds each set to failure all the way to 10 lbs

Adductor both out and in
4 sets on each

Glute kick back machine
2 sets of 10 at 50lbs
 
PalmFist said:
I don't get what all the fuss surrounding hemavol is all about. Been there done that. Was subpar for me compared to others. Total waste
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Agree too pricey and I had the worst headaches from it.

PREracing25 said:
Iv heard good and bad. Hopefully it just does not taste like crap lol
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Lemon flavor is good

snagencyV2.0 said:
i would be pushing the cals a bit more, carbs as well, while running the 1-alpha
you are going to be hard-pressed to add fat anyway with your metabolism, and if you do it should be rectified with the 550/epiV combo to follow
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Listen to this man :-)

Lukef2000 said:
Man what all ^^^ these guys said. You want to gain right? Eat! Dont e afraid of putting on a little bit of fat, once you bridge across to epi-v that will get sorted pretty quick. I would use the 1 andro to bulk my ass off then use the epi-v to lean out at the end! Just my .02c man nothing philosophical from me it's far too early over here for that lol :D
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Yup

PREracing25 said:
Yeah well the plan is to bring carbs up and in turn the cals will go up but I'm keeping fats low.
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No on the low fats. It def has its place (prep) but this isn't it bud. I like the 40/30/30. Don't drop fats bud listen to these guys pre. You can play with your fats when u decide to cut up a bit.

PREracing25 said:
Day 23 - 151.9 (+6.4lbs) Leg Day

Well I felt pretty good today the squats felt really good and I'm glad I hit those 2 plate. No lower back pain for the most part. However my left side groin is hurting pretty bad. I have pulled it 5+ times and its never healed from Ice hockey in high school so I may have my ART doctor take a look at my next appointment. I fell good today, my fiancé last night looked at me and said my pecs are looking really good granted she may be a little bias. Thanks for the help guys, today I'm going to shoot for 200p, 200c, and 40 fats, give or take a few.

BB squats
135x5
185x5
225x3 (PR)
135x10

Plated machine squats - reverse
90x10
180x10
270x10
360x10

Seated calf raises
Started at 70lbs and dropped by 10 pounds each set to failure all the way to 10 lbs

Adductor both out and in
4 sets on each

Glute kick back machine
2 sets of 10 at 50lbs
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Nice wo Pre. Good job on the squat PR.
 
Thanks bean glad to see you in here. Your still killing it in your prep. I'm listing to everybody in here. You all have a lot more experience then this guy right here.
 
Day 24 - 151.5 (+6.0lbs) chest day


Well felt good today, shoulders are sore but I pushed through it.

Incline bench
65x10
95x10
115x7
115x5

Slight incline DB flys
15x10
20x10
20x8

Flat DB Bench - I surprised myself on this one with a strong PR for me
35x10
40x10
45x10
50x8 (PR)

Standing cable flys - weight is each arm
35x10
40x10
40x10
40x10

Seated fly machine
85x10
85x10
100x10
 
I agree with the fats. You need them just as much as the other macros for certain cellular processes.

Great log bro, you provide me with a good read.

I am going to be setting up my FinaFlex stack in the near future. I already have all of the goods, just waiting.
 
drewsicle3210 said:
I agree with the fats. You need them just as much as the other macros for certain cellular processes.

Great log bro, you provide me with a good read.

I am going to be setting up my FinaFlex stack in the near future. I already have all of the goods, just waiting.
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Nice drew, they are very solid products and non methyl's which is even better.
 
Strength gain is a big part of 1-alpha as I knew it would be given what it is and improved conversion.
 
DreamWeaver said:
Strength gain is a big part of 1-alpha as I knew it would be given what it is and improved conversion.
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Yes I can feel that for sure DW. Well it's Monday morning, I need to get moving to the gym. There was a little weight jump this morning :-)
 
Day 27 - 153.0 (+7.5lbs). Back day


Well boys I thought today was going to suck to be honest. Woke up with bad heart palpitations but I kind of just pushed through it. Put down a scoop and half of micro and headed to the gym. You might be saying "if you were having heart palpitations why would you take micro". It's a very valid question and the answer is that stims and caffeine have no effect on my palpitations. So I decided to hit back today and left out dead lifts. Hit a solid PR on Yates rows and it felt good. I have a feeling by weeks end or by day 30 il be up 10lbs and that's my plan. I have also found a app on my ipad that allows me to take 2 pictures and put them side by side so when I upload pictures at the end of 550 I can put them side by side with my starting pictures.

BB Yates row - Underhand grip only
115x10
135x10
155x10
175x6 (PR)

Pull Downs - machine is a 2 cable 2 handle machine so weight is each handle.
35x10
40x10
45x10
50x8

Seated 2 cable row - again weight is each handle, I kept the row as low as I could.
30x10
35x10
40x10
45x10

Face down DB plank row - slight incline
25x10
30x10
30x10

Wide grip pull ups
2 sets till failure

Hanging straight leg raises - very controlled
1 set of 15

I really worked today on mental focus just thinking about the muscles in my back which seemed to help me really feel like I worked it.
 
PREracing25 said:
Day 27 - 153.0 (+7.5lbs). Back day

Well boys I thought today was going to suck to be honest. Woke up with bad heart palpitations but I kind of just pushed through it. Put down a scoop and half of micro and headed to the gym. You might be saying "if you were having heart palpitations why would you take micro". It's a very valid question and the answer is that stims and caffeine have no effect on my palpitations. So I decided to hit back today and left out dead lifts. Hit a solid PR on Yates rows and it felt good. I have a feeling by weeks end or by day 30 il be up 10lbs and that's my plan. I have also found a app on my ipad that allows me to take 2 pictures and put them side by side so when I upload pictures at the end of 550 I can put them side by side with my starting pictures.

BB Yates row - Underhand grip only
115x10
135x10
155x10
175x6 (PR)

Pull Downs - machine is a 2 cable 2 handle machine so weight is each handle.
35x10
40x10
45x10
50x8

Seated 2 cable row - again weight is each handle, I kept the row as low as I could.
30x10
35x10
40x10
45x10

Face down DB plank row - slight incline
25x10
30x10
30x10

Wide grip pull ups
2 sets till failure

Hanging straight leg raises - very controlled
1 set of 15

I really worked today on mental focus just thinking about the muscles in my back which seemed to help me really feel like I worked it.
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Looks like the increase in calories is treating you well ;) what's that app called??
 
Side by side is the name of the app. Funny thing about the weight, I have increase the carbs and timing of protein. I was 150.5 yesterday morning and I hit a shake last night about an hour before bed and woke up this morning at 153.0. So I'm going to keep that up and see how it works.
 
PREracing25 said:
Side by side is the name of the app. Funny thing about the weight, I have increase the carbs and timing of protein. I was 150.5 yesterday morning and I hit a shake last night about an hour before bed and woke up this morning at 153.0. So I'm going to keep that up and see how it works.
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An increase in carbs has an immediate difference in weight especially if you are depleted.
 
DreamWeaver said:
An increase in carbs has an immediate difference in weight especially if you are depleted.
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Yeah well I increased them last Thursday I think. I can't remember, my memory is gone. Has been like that for years.
 
I think you are gonna like it. Especially with your body type.
 
Montego1 said:
I think you are gonna like it. Especially with your body type.
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Oh I'm loving it so far monte. It's only gets better from here. I'm hoping the new pictures show a difference and its not all in my head lol.
 
808shredded said:
Your making great progress pre. Keep the carbs up then your weight will move up more quickly.
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Thanks 808, not sure I have seen you in here before but either way thanks for following along.
 
Had a biometric screening at work today. Checked out good except hdl was 17. Il have to work on that.
 
PREracing25 said:
Had a biometric screening at work today. Checked out good except hdl was 17. Il have to work on that.
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My HDL level is also low. Slow release Niacin helped plus increase the dark green vegetables.
 
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