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CorpKiller

CorpKiller

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Not Erase pro, but Erase.

What to stack with it? I stacked w/ creatine and felt a general puffiness. I don't want to go near DAA out of fear hair loss: Family history there.

Any suggestions?
 
Any test booster gives an equivalent risk to hair loss. Testosterone converts to DHT

So why be opposed to DAA specifically?

If you are dead set on not using DAA, I would use AnaBeta. But the combination of all 3 is delightful
 
AnaBeta plays well with Erase if DAA-Paranoia took over.
 
Celorza said:
AnaBeta plays well with Erase if DAA-Paranoia took over.
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Anabeta would be worse than DAA in OP's condition. DAA is honestly probably OP's best bet, as many effective herbs (fadogia, bulbine, anacyclus) come with mild androgenic effects. Erase solo will also elevate T just fine.
 
mr.cooper69 said:
Anabeta would be worse than DAA in OP's condition. DAA is honestly probably OP's best bet, as many effective herbs (fadogia, bulbine, anacyclus) come with mild androgenic effects. Erase solo will also elevate T just fine.
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:blink: that i didn't know, explains strength gains on AnaBeta though.
 
mr.cooper69 said:
Anabeta would be worse than DAA in OP's condition. DAA is honestly probably OP's best bet, as many effective herbs (fadogia, bulbine, anacyclus) come with mild androgenic effects. Erase solo will also elevate T just fine.
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Personally, I've never experienced androgenic effects from Anabeta. I only ever experienced enhanced body composition effects from it.
 
mr.cooper69 said:
I was asking why androgenic effects would explain strength gains
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Don't higher Androgenic ratios in AAS mean strength gains, and higher anabolic ratios mean muscle mass? Was merely making the analogy to natural compounds...(don't slap me please...)
 
Torobestia said:
Personally, I've never experienced androgenic effects from Anabeta. I only ever experienced enhanced body composition effects from it.
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Nor would I expect you to. But if one is predisposed to "balding," DAA would be the preferred route, but it's really semantics at this point.

Celorza said:
Don't higher Androgenic ratios in AAS mean strength gains, and higher anabolic ratios mean muscle mass? Was merely making the analogy to natural compounds...(don't slap me please...)
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We're talking about herbals. Androgenic effects like increased sperm count and motility, beard growth (fadogia), etc
 
mr.cooper69 said:
Nor would I expect you to. But if one is predisposed to "balding," DAA would be the preferred route, but it's really semantics at this point.
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I guess the point of my otherwise seemingly vacuous statement was to ask: while you say effective herbals usually are androgenic, is there data to suggest the same holds true for the specific anacyclus extract or family extract (anacyclus pyrethrum) in Anabeta?

mr.cooper69 said:
beard growth (fadogia)
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Oh God, can't imagine supplementing my beard growth any further.
 
Torobestia said:
I guess the point of my otherwise seemingly vacuous statement was to ask: while you say effective herbals usually are androgenic, is there data to suggest the same holds true for the specific anacyclus extract or family extract (anacyclus pyrethrum) in Anabeta?Oh God, can't imagine supplementing my beard growth any further.
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Yes. All the data is in mice, which is why I'd expect mild if any effects in humans. For instance, bulbine shows certain effects on liver histology in mice that are apparently totally absent in humans as per a recent safety study.
 
mr.cooper69 said:
Yes. All the data is in mice, which is why I'd expect mild if any effects in humans. For instance, bulbine shows certain effects on liver histology in mice that are apparently totally absent in humans as per a recent safety study.
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Much the same as the beneficial effects shown in mice then....

:D
 
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