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Airborne's Quest to PowerLifting (and whatever he's on ATM)

LiveToLift said:
Just so you are aware AB and I discussed it and I will be moving in soon! Lucky man to have such good food made for him all the time! I don't mind sleeping on the couch. :32:
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Haha well now she knows u and Valdez are moving in... Anyone else? Lol
 
CATdiesel76 said:
Just so you know, EQ increases collagen synthesis by more than Deca and will probably have far less of an impact on libido. Something to consider.

Also, I am late on this thread but it seems as though you have a lot of things being thrown at you from different people. I would treat this trainer like a routine and follow it exactly. The only way to truely guage the results is to do exactly what he tells you. After a while, if its working out for you then great. If its not, let him know and recalibirate things. If it ends up that your not making the progress you need and your body is falling apart, then maybe this guy doesn't know what he is doing and it would be time to find a new coach. But you will never know what direction to go unless you follow it exactly at first. Then make your adjustments. Thats my take on it. Best of luck brother
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Not trying to totally be a dick calling you but eq doesn't effect collagen synthesis nearly as much as deca. Any chance you have links to share? Everything I've seen says eq does infact increase it but not nearly to the point of deca. Oddly enough eq has murdered my sex drive. I may rub one out once a week now LOL
 
superbeast668 said:
Oregon would be sweet for a while... I miss the west...
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my brother lived there in the early 2000's. we took an epic trip and drove from detroit to vancouver to see the wife's cousin get married, stopping off in portland to see my brother get married first. perfect timing. for the bachelor party, me, my brother and a couple of his friends climbed mt hood. this was in june and things were pretty wet coming down

we stopped in yellowstone, couer' dlane idaho (old friend lives there) and seattle before we got to portland.

best

trip

ever...
 
Shiit bro, I take a leave of absence for a few weeks and of course you have another log i have to attempt following, ummmm... Impossible! I have only read ur intro and that's it so far. Here we go:)
 
wrxwhit said:
Shiit bro, I take a leave of absence for a few weeks and of course you have another log i have to attempt following, ummmm... Impossible! I have only read ur intro and that's it so far. Here we go:)
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Glad to have you bro! We are building all kinds of muscle in here
 
I'm sorry, what?
 

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Your back is wide as fuk dude
 
Haha thank you guys! I look small in these pics... MLS had to stand back
 
Look at the side view... The tricep underneath the shirt tho ;-)
 
Airborne42 said:
Look at the side view... The tricep underneath the shirt tho ;-)
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I can't get past the closed eyes and baby face lol
 
Airborne42 said:
I'm sorry, what?
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You look incredible bro! Way leaner and tighter then when you were on cycle IMHO! That shirt is going to be way to small here soon though!!!
 
LiveToLift said:
You look incredible bro! Way leaner and tighter then when you were on cycle IMHO! That shirt is going to be way to small here soon though!!!
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Haha thank you brother! Idk if I posted my weight but 256 from last weigh in. It fluctuates a lot tho within 4-5 pounds. What day we starting?
 
Airborne42 said:
Haha thank you brother! Idk if I posted my weight but 256 from last weigh in. It fluctuates a lot tho within 4-5 pounds. What day we starting?
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Beastly bro! How long u guys gunna run ur cycle for bro. U should get to that tank statis lol
 
Airborne42 said:
Haha thank you brother! Idk if I posted my weight but 256 from last weigh in. It fluctuates a lot tho within 4-5 pounds. What day we starting?
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Looks like 25th or 26th! :-). Yea buddy!!!!
 
LiveToLift said:
Looks like 25th or 26th! :-). Yea buddy!!!!
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Nice,I'm def. in for this ride.Im hoping to be running and logging my nice little ph cycle around then,be good motivation!
 
Mack411 said:
Nice,I'm def. in for this ride.Im hoping to be running and logging my nice little ph cycle around then,be good motivation!
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Guaranteed to not let you down! We tend to have epic cycles! This won't be any different in fact I'm thinking it may blow the others out of the water.
 
superbeast668 said:
Not trying to totally be a dick calling you but eq doesn't effect collagen synthesis nearly as much as deca. Any chance you have links to share? Everything I've seen says eq does infact increase it but not nearly to the point of deca. Oddly enough eq has murdered my sex drive. I may rub one out once a week now LOL
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I had read something long ago about the effects of both Deca and EQ on collagen synthesis and thought I remembered it having citations and studies to back it up. However, upon further review, I could not find any studies. Here is the original post. It has been floating around forums for awhile but after searching pubmed I can't find anything to back it up. I still noticed much better joints when on the old Bold200 and many old school vets I know swear by EQ for joints but who knows. Glad you caught that

"While injecting test increases protein synthesis by roughly 50 times, depending on dose and time, most bodybuilders forget that it will reduce collagen synthesis by more than 50% -- more like 80%, giving you the collagen synthesis rate of a senior citizen. Since collagen makes up tendons, bros are very prone to injury if they continue to lift very heavy, unless they cycle off T and let their collagen synthesis get back to normal. It's like having the skeletal muscle of a gorilla with the tendons of a very old man.

Winstrol increases collagen synthesis. It will give you bigger tendons. However, your body compensates for this by making them more brittle, weaker, and more prone to injury. I can't tell you how many bros work out anaerobically and become injured while on winstrol. Guys who lift in the 1-5 rep range while on winstrol, to baseball players who sprint all out from a stationary position -- winstrol should be the LAST drug they choose. Most of them like winstrol because they don't get the weight gain from it but it is very detrimental to bros who train for any sport anaerobically. Tendons tear easily on it.

Also, the drugs I mention increase collagen synthesis while also increasing collagen cross-linking integrity, making for a much stronger tendon.

Winstrol, on the other hand, will dramatically increase collagen syn, but ironically it decreases collagen cross-linking integrity, thus making a much weaker tendon.

You can plan a cycle of AAS which will increase collagen synthesis and skeletal muscle growth at the same time. The key is the drug(s) you choose.

Deca, Equipoise, Anavar, and Primobolan will ALL increase skeletal muscle while at the same time dramatically increase collagen syn and bone mass and density, leaving you with a substantially reduced chance of becoming injured than if you choose to use AAS like sus, cyp, or enth.

While testosterone will increase bone mass and density, even at supra-physiological levels, the result is weaker tendons due to inhibition of collagen syn.

To plan a cycle where the goal is to increase skeletal muscle mass/strength while at the same time increase joint/tendon/ligament strength, enough to keep up with the dramatic increase in skeletal muscle, you must choose drugs like Eq, Deca, Anavar, or Primo as the base of your cycle. Testosterone and its esters can be added to your cycle to keep levels within a 'normal' physiological range (ie, 100-200 mg/wk) but must not go above this. Since drugs like eq, deca, anavar and primo will reduce endogenous, natural levels of test, these levels may be maintained with exogenous test in the 100-200 mg/wk range. Test at this dose will not inhibit collagen syn, but paradoxically, will help increase it. It is when exogenous testosterone is used > 200 mg/wk that collagen syn is inhibited.

Deca @ 3 mg/kg a week(about 270 mg/wk for a 200 lb male) will increase procollagen III levels by 270% by week 2. Procollagen III is a primary indicator used to determine the rate of collagen syn. As you can see, deca is a very good drug at giving you everything you want -- an increase in collagen syn, an increase in skeletal muscle, and increases in bone mass and density. The one thing it does not give you is wood.

Primobolan, @ 5 mg/kg, will increase collagen synthesis by roughly 180% -- less than deca and equipoise but still substantial.

Equipoise @ 3 mg/kg will increase procollagen III by approximately 340% -- slightly better than deca.

Oxandrolone has over a hundred studies documenting its effectiveness at treating patients needing rapid increases in collagen syn to enhance healing.

These drugs have longer half-lives than most other AAS, so this should be considered when timing your post cycle Clomid use. Here they are:

Deca: 15 days Equipoise: 14 days Primobolan: 10.5 days

Anavar has a half-life of only 8 hours so it should not pose a problem.

GH is probably the most remarkable drug at increasing collagen synthesis. It increases collagen syn in a dose dependant manner -- the more you use, the more you will increase collagen syn. It has also demonstrated this ability in short and long term studies. From what I've read, hGH at 6 iu/day increased the collagen deposition rate by around 250% in damaged collagen structures. This result indicates that the increased biomechanical strength of wounds to collagen structures treated with biosynthetic human growth hormone was produced by an increased deposition of collagen in the collagen structures.

Eq, primo, anavar, and deca are all good -- they increase several biomakers of collagen syn -- ie, type III, II, I, procollagen markers. GH just seems to do so most dramatically.

Use of any of these drugs @ supra-physiological levels with a maintenance dose of test will increase collagen syn while at the same time increase skeletal muscle mass. Skeletal muscle mass gains will not be as dramatic as with large testosterone doses but you have to weigh the risk/reward basis for yourself. Also, these drugs do not satisfy the libido like testosterone, but that is not the point of this thread. It is only to demonstrate that you can increase skeletal muscle and collagen syn at the same time with certain AAS -- the decision is up to you."
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LiveToLift said:
Guaranteed to not let you down! We tend to have epic cycles! This won't be any different in fact I'm thinking it may blow the others out of the water.
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It is what it is ;-)
 
LTL! I might start on Tuesday since ill be pinning tues and Thursday
 
Airborne42 said:
LTL! I might start on Tuesday since ill be pinning tues and Thursday
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Why tue/thur bud? I've seen mon/thur and tue\fri never seen Tue/thur.
 
What about Tuesday and Friday?
Monday is leg day and Thursday is deadlift day
 
Tuesday Friday Is legit. its the schedule i was on. After your first maybe 2nd round your pip shouldn't effect your lifts broham. I never got any pip until the next day too.
 
Danb2285 said:
Tuesday Friday Is legit. its the schedule i was on. After your first maybe 2nd round your pip shouldn't effect your lifts broham. I never got any pip until the next day too.
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For sure bro! Thank u for the advice
 
Airborne42 said:
For sure bro! Thank u for the advice
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For sure bro anytime
 
Confidence boost!
 

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Please keep us updated on how that stuff works AB, I've burned through a few joint supps that didn't seem to do jack sh!t.
 
SuperPro said:
Please keep us updated on how that stuff works AB, I've burned through a few joint supps that didn't seem to do jack sh!t.
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Will do! Also I picked up biofreeze AND Tylenol joint care topical. Biofreeze is good but the Tylenol one is by far superior!
 
Airborne42 said:
Will do! Also I picked up biofreeze AND Tylenol joint care topical. Biofreeze is good but the Tylenol one is by far superior!
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What is this that you speak of.... Something better than bio freeze... You are lying!
 
BigTex08 said:
What is this that you speak of.... Something better than bio freeze... You are lying!
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Blasphemy!
 
BigTex08 said:
What is this that you speak of.... Something better than bio freeze... You are lying!
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Lol true story man! Blows biofreeze out the water...
It's the tylenol brand version. It's like 5 bucks a tube ill post a pic. Hits immediately and all pain is gone
 
Airborne42 said:
Lol true story man! Blows biofreeze out the water...
It's the tylenol brand version. It's like 5 bucks a tube ill post a pic. Hits immediately and all pain is gone
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Def interested

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