They don't sell booze where you're from? Do your own damn experiments And videotape the results!Bump for beer and wine results!
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They don't sell booze where you're from? Do your own damn experiments And videotape the results!Bump for beer and wine results!
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No, but few (if any) GDAs can say that.Is there any ingredients that actually selectively increase insulin sensitivity in muscle?
Out of curiosity, can you give me some examples of the few natural substances that do?No, but few (if any) GDAs can say that.
Very nice! I think Matt said he put down 8 Rolling Rocks last night lol. Haven't heard much more than that, yet.I had quite a few hefty pumpkin beers last night. Didn't feel bloated/full at any point. It was like drinking light beer except it tasted a lot better.
Haha! I just very rarely drink, so it's not really in my wheelhouse.They don't sell booze where you're from? Do your own damn experiments And videotape the results!
Of those in the realm of "known" DSHEA ingredients, Tauroursodeoxycholic Acid may improve liver and mus... [Diabetes. 2010] - PubMed - NCBI You will have to wait for the "unknown"Out of curiosity, can you give me some examples of the few natural substances that do?
Maybe you're going to get banned?Btw, is AM screwing up anyone else's spacing? I can't hit enter without it adding directly to the previous sentence.
Vanilla PP? That must be a strong vanilla to mask the flavor...Okay here goes - my first experiment with Slintensity:
Today's experiment\dosage:
I woke up this morning, drank my pre and some creatine and off to workout about 20 min later. I followed the instructions on the bottle and took 1 cap immediately after my workout, waited 20 min and had a shake consisting of 1 scoop Glycomyx, 1 scoop vanilla pp, blueberries, UVAB, cinnamon and red pepper. Tasted pretty good. I did notice that slight hypo feeling though just before I had the shake....funny because I didn't feel it last night. Maybe because this was my first meal of the day? I drank this shake and I was really full.....so total opposite of last night.
I have a bunch of San narala in my stash so I'll start adding a capSlintensity had a superior effect on the glucometer for me, but SSv2 is my preferred choice simply because the inclusion of Na-R-ALA complements my supplement stack perfectly. You really can't go wrong with either though; an 80% 4-OH extract is unheard of.
What exercises were you doing? I haven't noticed this yet from Slin, but I get nasty back pumps easy anyways especially lower back.Will SlinTensity give you back pumps? I just took a cap 30 minutes ago, ate and now my back is so pumped... Like painful. I haven't experienced this the other three times i've used it but I was taking it with an MRP and not whole food. I took in 20g's fast carbs and 60g's of slow carbs so I know I ate enough. The funny thing is usually I feel full afterwards but I feel like I could go eat more.
I haven't noticed that in any of the dosings I've had with ST. I'm with Josh and would lean more toward what exercises you'd been doing or if you'd done anything that could initiate that. I know whenever I do the dishes, my lower back starts to get that because the countertop and sink are just low enough to cause it.Will SlinTensity give you back pumps? I just took a cap 30 minutes ago, ate and now my back is so pumped... Like painful. I haven't experienced this the other three times i've used it but I was taking it with an MRP and not whole food. I took in 20g's fast carbs and 60g's of slow carbs so I know I ate enough. The funny thing is usually I feel full afterwards but I feel like I could go eat more.
This is very interesting. Thanks for posting the study. What are your thoughts on 250mg TUDCA + 1 cap Slin-Sane V2 as a nutrient partitioning stack for lean mass gains? Also, Patrick Arnold has posted a lot of data on his Ursolic Acid product in regards to nutrient partitioning. I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts on that as well.Of those in the realm of "known" DSHEA ingredients, Tauroursodeoxycholic Acid may improve liver and mus... [Diabetes. 2010] - PubMed - NCBI You will have to wait for the "unknown"
Btw, is AM screwing up anyone else's spacing? I can't hit enter without it adding directly to the previous sentence.
The dose of TUDCA used was 1750mg, and even then, the effect wasn't particularly profound. I wouldn't expect 250mg TUDCA to exert any significant physiological effect. SSv2 is great for health benefits.This is very interesting. Thanks for posting the study. What are your thoughts on 250mg TUDCA + 1 cap Slin-Sane V2 as a nutrient partitioning stack for lean mass gains? Also, Patrick Arnold has posted a lot of data on his Ursolic Acid product in regards to nutrient partitioning. I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts on that as well.
I just purchased a bottle of both Slintensity and Slin-Sane V2. I'll save the Slintensity for my next cut.
I don't recall him specifically referring to it as a nutrient partitioner, but he may have. It seems to have anabolic and anti-catabolic characteristics. Jake from Anteaus Labs did an excellent blog on Ursobolic Acid. I can't post links but is at anteauslabs.blogspot.comThe dose of TUDCA used was 1750mg, and even then, the effect wasn't particularly profound. I wouldn't expect 250mg TUDCA to exert any significant physiological effect. SSv2 is great for health benefits.
The term "nutrient partitioning" needs to be clarified. Did he refer to it as a GDA, or a true nutrient partitioner (preferentially sends glucose to muscle over fat cells)?
I hadn't worked out in a week. I took a week off and was well rested. I haven't experienced it again but I will pay close attention from now on.What exercises were you doing? I haven't noticed this yet from Slin, but I get nasty back pumps easy anyways especially lower back.
That's a lot of carbs and GDA's! Interested to see what you find.I'm gonna take 1 slintensity and 1 slin sane v1 pre lunch tomorrow and see how that goes. Then for dinner i'm gonna try 2 slintensitys before dinner. I'll report back tomorrow.
No doubt. I hope he's going to the hibachi restaurant and ordering triple fried rice!That's a lot of carbs and GDA's! Interested to see what you find.
When you say pre workout do you mean pre workout meal or pre workout on a empty stomach?I stacked SlinTensity with Slin Sane V2 last night before workout. I think I am going to try it again tonight.
40 mins preworkout on empty stomach. 20 mins later took 2 scoops of GlycoMyx with some protein.When you say pre workout do you mean pre workout meal or pre workout on a empty stomach?
No. And using only coconut oil as a fat source is a surefire way to run into a host of metabolic problems down the road.When using Slintensity or GDA's in general should you keep your fats low? and sugar intake low? The only sugar in my diet comes from fruits. Fat comes from coconut oil.
I meant when I use Slintensity. My main sources of fats is nuts, coconut oil, avacodas, olives, salmon.No. And using only coconut oil as a fat source is a surefire way to run into a host of metabolic problems down the road.
Also, fructose is not the best source of carbohydrate. One or two pieces of whole fruit should be fine, but complex carbs and dextrose are better. I'd keep total fructose under 50 grams -- keep in mind that one half of regular sugar will break down into fructose.When using Slintensity or GDA's in general should you keep your fats low? and sugar intake low? The only sugar in my diet comes from fruits. Fat comes from coconut oil.
Piggybacking on this statement do you think half coconut oil and half evoo is an ok split in your meals?No. And using only coconut oil as a fat source is a surefire way to run into a host of metabolic problems down the road.
I eat half an apple with 6 ounces of black beans and 4 ounces of white rice.Also, fructose is not the best source of carbohydrate. One or two pieces of whole fruit should be fine, but complex carbs and dextrose are better. I'd keep total fructose under 50 grams -- keep in mind that one half of regular sugar will break down into fructose.
I threw up in my mouth a bit as I read that.I eat half an apple with 6 ounces of black beans and 4 ounces of white rice.
You'd get almost no saturated fat in your diet (I'm not talking about coconut-based MCTs, but rather long chain triglycerides). Also, no epa/dha/ala. Also, lack of balance between PUFA and MUFA. In the end, it's all about eating a balanced diet. Turn to just one or two foods for all your macronutrient needs and things can get out of wack longterm.Piggybacking on this statement do you think half coconut oil and half evoo is an ok split in your meals?
This is extremely inaccurate. Fruits contain both fructose and glucose, and usually more of the latter. The kinetics of fructose in fruits prevents rapid blood sugar spikes that can lead to potential issues. Sucrose is a different storyAlso, fructose is not the best source of carbohydrate. One or two pieces of whole fruit should be fine, but complex carbs and dextrose are better. I'd keep total fructose under 50 grams -- keep in mind that one half of regular sugar will break down into fructose.
I wouldn't take slintensity prior to a pure fat meal, but if you take it with a fat+carb meal, it may even be preferable due to the reduction in insulin levels.I meant when I use Slintensity. My main sources of fats is nuts, coconut oil, avacodas, olives, salmon.
Re-read the previous page. Each ingredient has a unique MOA. You can certainly test glucosal disposal via a glucometer for this "battle," but as far as the most beneficial for health or body composition...comparing one to another is apples to oranges, as odd as it sounds. The category as a whole is very diverse.This is a nice discussion.
I'd like to see a battle of the GDAs, style review.
Got cha. Yeah it is a bit boggling the diversity.Re-read the previous page. Each ingredient has a unique MOA. You can certainly test glucosal disposal via a glucometer for this "battle," but as far as the most beneficial for health or body composition...comparing one to another is apples to oranges, as odd as it sounds. The category as a whole is very diverse.
See you're a fan of both.Slintensity had a superior effect on the glucometer for me, but SSv2 is my preferred choice simply because the inclusion of Na-R-ALA complements my supplement stack perfectly. You really can't go wrong with either though; an 80% 4-OH extract is unheard of.
The liver will can only handle about 50gm per day. Beyond this fructose will be stored as fat. Unlike glucose, fructose can only be used to replenish liver glycogen. If hypocaloric it probably doesn't matter much. My mind is currently focused on lean gains so I'm probably overlooking fat loss considerations such as blood sugar stabilization that you pointed out. But fats and fiber can also be used for this purpose. With all this said, I stand by my recommendation of less than 50gm fructose per day. This still permits for plenty of fruit in one's diet.This is extremely inaccurate. Fruits contain both fructose and glucose, and usually more of the latter. The kinetics of fructose in fruits prevents rapid blood sugar spikes that can lead to potential issues. Sucrose is a different story
No, again inaccurate because it is dependent on one's lifestyle, chronically speaking (unless heavily endurance training). Metabolism is not so simple a concept as to set gram-limits for individual monosaccharides. Fructose is actually converted almost entirely to glucose given that the kinetics are in place (hence, fruit).The liver will can only handle about 50gm per day. Beyond this fructose will be stored as fat. Unlike glucose, fructose can only be used to replenish liver glycogen. If hypocaloric it probably doesn't matter much. My mind is currently focused on lean gains so I'm probably overlooking fat loss considerations such as blood sugar stabilization that you pointed out. But fats and fiber can also be used for this purpose. With all this said, I stand by my recommendation of less than 50gm fructose per day. This still permits for plenty of fruit in one's diet.
Since you are more knowledgeable I will not try to debate the issue. My understanding is that fructose is always converted to liver glycogen. From there converted to glucose if needed. I was not aware that it can convert directly to glucose?No, again inaccurate because it is dependent on one's lifestyle, chronically speaking (unless heavily endurance training). Metabolism is not so simple a concept as to set gram-limits for individual monosaccharides. Fructose is actually converted almost entirely to glucose given that the kinetics are in place (hence, fruit).
Tried this yesterday and almost died.... No i'm just kidding. haha. I didn't notice a drastic difference besides increased appetite.I'm gonna take 1 slintensity and 1 slin sane v1 pre lunch tomorrow and see how that goes. Then for dinner i'm gonna try 2 slintensitys before dinner. I'll report back tomorrow.
Thanks. I'll check it out.^ Google search "alan aragon fructose"
Just read an interview with him by Marc Lobliner yesterday. It was definitely a good read.^ Google search "alan aragon fructose"
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