Another example of 'dry' look.
My client Remus -- 3 weeks out from contest
-Matt
My client Remus -- 3 weeks out from contest
-Matt
What is your reason for working out? Serious, not being a dick.I'm not interested in ever becoming a bodybuilder or stepping foot on a stage, so I don't really understand the obsession with looks. To each his own though.
Dude his delts are ridiculous,almost look out of proportion to his body,lol... Conditioning is fantastic.Another example of 'dry' look.
My client Remus -- 3 weeks out from contest
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-Matt
To keep healthy and stay fit as I age. Lower blood pressure, lower resting heart rate, strengthen bones, keep my mind sharp.What is your reason for working out? Serious, not being a dick.
WELL SAID BRO...To keep healthy and stay fit as I age. Lower blood pressure, lower resting heart rate, strengthen bones, keep my mind sharp.
Crazy dry you could say. It is incredible the condition you get these guys in.Another example of 'dry' look.
My client Remus -- 3 weeks out from contest
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-Matt
Working out for all the health benefits is wonderful and SHOULD be first and foremost....but hey,,, I bet you wont complain when your BF% drops and you gain some lean mass...I'm not interested in ever becoming a bodybuilder or stepping foot on a stage, so I don't really understand the obsession with looks. To each his own though.
Good to see and props to you bro. I wish you all the best and very well said.To keep healthy and stay fit as I age. Lower blood pressure, lower resting heart rate, strengthen bones, keep my mind sharp.
Out of curiosity, what do you do with natural athletes rather than chemically assisted ones?8% bF and below
DHT product such as AndroHard
Aromatase control product such as Erase pro
ECA/CLEN which contributes to diuresis
11 KT for stress/cortisol control --AndroLean
-Matt
That would probably depend on your definition of "natural"^I would love to know.
There arent really more ways than one way to explain all natural... So i dont get what u mean.That would probably depend on your definition of "natural"
I have my own hang ups with this term.That would probably depend on your definition of "natural"
To out lift 99% of the world population... For all the reasons T-Bone said and simply because I like lifting things and putting them down especially heavy things.What is your reason for working out? Serious, not being a dick.
Whats heavy to one,may not he heavy to another!!!To out lift 99% of the world population... For all the reasons T-Bone said and simply because I like lifting things and putting them down especially heavy things.
That's the beauty of it All about challenging yourself mentally and physicallyWhats heavy to one,may not he heavy to another!!!
Thats exactly why i do rhis bodybuilding thing.....mainly for the mental challenge.The best competition in the world is yourself against yourself!!! FACT!That's the beauty of it All about challenging yourself mentally and physically
I do it because I am incredibly vain.Thats exactly why i do rhis bodybuilding thing.....mainly for the mental challenge.The best competition in the world is yourself against yourself!!! FACT!
Well said...Thats exactly why i do rhis bodybuilding thing.....mainly for the mental challenge.The best competition in the world is yourself against yourself!!! FACT!
I have to attest to this a bit. I do it because you can't. And when you tell me "I couldn't ever do that" It drives me. I can and I will.I do it because I am incredibly vain.
TY brotha!!!Well said...
Hey man,to each there own. I am vain as well.To an extent that is. But,i love a challenge and doing anything to make aure i win.I have an ego. Yeah its great to be strong and look good as wellI do it because I am incredibly vain.
Agreed. Androgens are what competitors use close to contests for this purpose.8% bF and below
DHT product such as AndroHard
Aromatase control product such as Erase pro
ECA/CLEN which contributes to diuresis
11 KT for stress/cortisol control --AndroLean
-Matt
Haha ^ thisI do it because I am incredibly vain.
Here a few guys whom I prepped that were 100% not using hormones while I helped them...Out of curiosity, what do you do with natural athletes rather than chemically assisted ones?
Not recommending it but can vouch for this haha I always wake up appearing "dryer" and "leaner" after a moderate night of drinking.Drink a bottle of jack, then you'll wake up dry and hard the next morning
Lmfao
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^^^Alot of times natural guys will get DRIER since they have less variables to be concerned with....this drug countering this side effect, plus this drug to counter this other side effect etc....They might not be big, round and full --- but they can get dry and very conditioned!-Matt
My understanding is those guys were natural.I am fascinated between the differences in pre workout prep for naturals and assisted athletes. To me I have never done anything that drastic for the week prior a shoot but my body fat levels are not bodybuilder-esque. I only need to come in at 7%, nowhere near as dry as the guys in these photos.
Matt, what would your protocols look like for natural athletes? Actually natural, not 'natural *wink*' lol.
indeed.My understanding is those guys were natural.
I would hope that it differs a lot to what he outlined previously lol.indeed.
i'm not Matt, but i think i can emulate his response....
there is no difference between protocols for natty/enhanced per se - it is the fact of 'enhancement' that you then may have to do some things to 'counteract' the effects of that enhancement, that differs.
even then, it is not night/day differences in guidelines..
the same principles that apply to totally natty guys will work when utilized with anabolics.
ppl like to make this a complicated thought process (been there, done that myself ).
it's not.
if you are talking about this:I would hope that it differs a lot to what he outlined previously lol.
Theres been times Ive woken up with my brain swirling but looking peeled. Not advocating it - just seconding the vouchNot recommending it but can vouch for this haha I always wake up appearing "dryer" and "leaner" after a moderate night of drinking.
You are complicating this and not answering my initial question lol.if you are talking about this:
8% bF and below
DHT product such as AndroHard
Aromatase control product such as Erase pro
ECA/CLEN which contributes to diuresis
11 KT for stress/cortisol control --AndroLean
then obviously........
there would be some otc product that you could use in place of this, if desired.
(already illustrated by erase pro/ECA)
as far as diet/training goes, which is ULTIMATELY the catalyst for getting into ultra-low bf levels, there would be no (or very little) difference.
diet is key - not drugs, and not supps.
I am strictly no AAS/PH products. I don't compete though, fitness modelling is where I am at so in theory I could take AAS and it wouldn't matter as I don't get tested, they are just not for me.BDCC, you compete natural?
I am strictly no AAS/PH products. I don't compete though, fitness modelling is where I am at so in theory I could take AAS and it wouldn't matter as I don't get tested, they are just not for me.
Protocols are very different when dealing with insulin and peptides for fullness.. pharma diuretics for dryness.. pgcl and laxatives to flatten the midsection.. seo to bring up lagging muscles or making muscles fuller without weight gain to make wt classes. Etc.indeed.
i'm not Matt, but i think i can emulate his response....
there is no difference between protocols for natty/enhanced per se - it is the fact of 'enhancement' that you then may have to do some things to 'counteract' the effects of that enhancement, that differs.
even then, it is not night/day differences in guidelines..
the same principles that apply to totally natty guys will work when
utilized with anabolics.
ppl like to make this a complicated thought process (been there, done that myself ).
it's not.
Everyone does stuff different. I use to do more now i find i can control my appearance much better with higher doses of less of certain things.Protocols are very different when dealing with insulin and peptides for fullness.. pharma diuretics for dryness.. pgcl and laxatives to flatten the midsection.. seo to bring up lagging muscles or making muscles fuller without weight gain to make wt classes. Etc.
Bodybuilding not natural is quite the ordeal. Fun but scary to live and do.