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BPS-FORMASURGE/ENDOSURGE

Valdez said:
No dude, not "I am sure" lol... You gotta get in there. Testosterone is CRUCIAL for Mens health. 200-250 is still too low...

When I go below 700 I feel like shít. I have no idea how you're adjusting lol! You getting enough sleep? Any environmental factors that you know of? Diets on point? If so, something is internally wrong and you gotta get it fixed.

I'll get off my soap box now ; )

Also, if this stack gets you up to 250, you'll find me purchasing a cycle shortly thereafter. : ) soooooooo show me some results, for BPS!!
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a few years back my doc referred my to an endo...but it was during the busy time of year at my work and the test cyp was working so well that i didn't take time off to make appointments...


i will keep this log going, and will be posting results!!!

time to get some sleep before work.


BTW-THANKS FOR YOUR INPUT, SEEMS LIKE YOU HAVE A LOT OF KNOWLEDGE!!!
 
thebigt said:
a few years back my doc referred my to an endo...but it was during the busy time of year at my work and the test cyp was working so well that i didn't take time off to make appointments...

i will keep this log going, and will be posting results!!!

time to get some sleep before work.

BTW-THANKS FOR YOUR INPUT, SEEMS LIKE YOU HAVE A LOT OF KNOWLEDGE!!!
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Why are you yelling at me?! ; )
 
Tom did you liver values spike all the sudden or was this a gradual incline that made him think it may be the test?
 
MrKleen73 said:
Tom did you liver values spike all the sudden or was this a gradual incline that made him think it may be the test?
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i knew i answere that already but when i looked for that post i couldn't find it...no wonder it is in the bps company section 'big thanks to bulk perf'.


but for you kleen i will answer again, lol....years of alcoholic drinking have damaged my liver..even though i have been sober for over 14 years i am still paying for it!!! my liver values were a concern when my doc put me on trt, but my test was so low i convinced him to go ahead and try it...i have the feeling that if my test was close to 300 he never would have taken the chance.
 
went with 4 pumps of formasurge, could feel a decent formestane rush...seemed to give me a boost. i am hoping that endosurge kicks in soon and i start getting those fantastic dreams!!!


off to work, update tomorrow!!!
 
Have you looked into Antaeus Labs AEGIS? It is a liver product that is supposed to be the best of the best in new liver supplementation. Sorry for the rewrite. I know how fun it is to have to do that. So far I have only heard great things about Antaeus Labs might be worth a shot.

Wow look at that paragraph structure. ADHD at it's best...
 
Hey Tom, how long has it been since your last test C injection? I know low levels suck. I'm in PCT now after running test, and I miss it so bad right now it isn't funny. Motivation, energy, and libido become more of an issue each day. FormaSurge is helping though!!
 
MrKleen73 said:
Have you looked into Antaeus Labs AEGIS? It is a liver product that is supposed to be the best of the best in new liver supplementation. Sorry for the rewrite. I know how fun it is to have to do that. So far I have only heard great things about Antaeus Labs might be worth a shot.

Wow look at that paragraph structure. ADHD at it's best...
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going to google it and take a look, thanks chris!!!
 
RickRock13 said:
Hey Tom, how long has it been since your last test C injection? I know low levels suck. I'm in PCT now after running test, and I miss it so bad right now it isn't funny. Motivation, energy, and libido become more of an issue each day. FormaSurge is helping though!!
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i can't remember exactly, but i know it's been over a month....motivation/energy/libido really hit an all time low just before starting this stack...i went with 4 pumps formasurge before work last night and i did get a nice boost from it.
 
like i told rick i used 4 pumps forma last night and did feel like i got a decent boost from it...i've been using a fatburner and been dropping weight even though my diet has been well above maintenance, but the weight loss had kinda leveled off, this morning i weighed in and found myself down 3 lbs since i started the forma. my estrogen must have been really high??? it wasn't included on the panel of my last bloods, i forgot to ask!!


i slept like a rock today after work, still no dreams yet but the deep sleep was very nice.
 
testosteronet said:
Bigt, of all people, you can answer this question...I didn't like Cel's form because of the strong limonene smell...is this anything near that smell?
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the limonene smell is still there, but it's not as strong as cel's, imo....it smells a little like suntan lotion to me. if you are familiar with the old e-form, formasurge really reminds me of it-this is a good thing, at least to me!!!!
 
testosteronet said:
Not familiar with e-form, a little before I became a formaholic, however, have tried every other kind that came out since including a few homebrews...but thanks for the answer...what color is it?
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when i got it it was clear with white flakes in it, but i set it in a pan of hot water and now it is clear....it's potent stuff!!! from 1 formaholic to another, at the price it is selling for at nutra i would snatch some up while it's still available!!! that's about as low a price as you are gonna find for a quality formestane product, imo.
 
not much change in libido...but my sleep has definately improved. i got home from work this morning at 7:30am, took a shower, ate, took 2 endosurge and went to bed. slept for 4 hours, got up to pee and took 2 more endosurge then went back to bed...just got up a little while ago. my wife said she kept checking on me because i never sleep that much!!! still no dreams, but the deep sleep was very refreshing!!!! evergy level seems higher, hopefully i will feel like hitting the gym in the morning.
 
Alot to be said for some restful sleep T. Hopefully this will only be a temporary issue and the cause will be determined. Take all the necessary steps to find the problem.
 
thebigt said:
not much change in libido...but my sleep has definately improved. i got home from work this morning at 7:30am, took a shower, ate, took 2 endosurge and went to bed. slept for 4 hours, got up to pee and took 2 more endosurge then went back to bed...just got up a little while ago. my wife said she kept checking on me because i never sleep that much!!! still no dreams, but the deep sleep was very refreshing!!!! evergy level seems higher, hopefully i will feel like hitting the gym in the morning.
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This is going to sound crazy but do liquid cut offs. Get all the liquids you need in until about 7 or 8 depending on when you go to bed... If I remember correctly you go to bed early evening? Start by trying to cut it like 3 hours ahead, if that doesn't work go for 4.

I know you're probably thinking I sound like a dip **** but you're looking at a full 6 hours sleeping through the night vs the interruption, which can throw your sleeping cycle off quite a bit. Like AZ said stereo is crucial for T production.

My 2¢. Try not to yell at me again.
 
He works graveyard shifts so he sleeps in the morning. Graveyard shifts are tough on the body to begin with. Totally out of sync with natural rythms.
 
AZMIDLYF said:
He works graveyard shifts so he sleeps in the morning. Graveyard shifts are tough on the body to begin with. Totally out of sync with natural rythms.
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Yup did graveyard shift on the ambulance for 2 years with a newborn. I know how that **** works.
 
My granddad use to do shift work at GP. I remember whenever he would get put on graveyard shift for a week, he would be so out of sync
 
Valdez said:
This is going to sound crazy but do liquid cut offs. Get all the liquids you need in until about 7 or 8 depending on when you go to bed... If I remember correctly you go to bed early evening? Start by trying to cut it like 3 hours ahead, if that doesn't work go for 4.

I know you're probably thinking I sound like a dip **** but you're looking at a full 6 hours sleeping through the night vs the interruption, which can throw your sleeping cycle off quite a bit. Like AZ said stereo is crucial for T production.

My 2¢. Try not to yell at me again.
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lol....sorry bout the caps..

i get off work at 7am, i try to get gym time in then and then bed....hard to restrict my water intake. today i just came home after work and got a few hours sleep in, i will go back to bed around 3 or 4 and try and sleep until time to get up for work...
 
some improvement in libido...not nearly what it was on the test cyp, but clearly headed in right direction.

started to get achy joints so going to cut back to 2 pumps twice a day on the formasurge. i think i am starting to see some results from the formasurge/endosurge, it's just not happening as fast as i would normally expect-which is to be expected, lol.
 
thebigt said:
lol....sorry bout the caps..

i get off work at 7am, i try to get gym time in then and then bed....hard to restrict my water intake. today i just came home after work and got a few hours sleep in, i will go back to bed around 3 or 4 and try and sleep until time to get up for work...
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It's all good. I know how you feel dude, which is unfortunate. Shift work and graveyard is hell on the body but someone has to do it, right?

Keep giving it hell man. Can't wait to see the results from your next labs
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I work in a hot ass factory and I had to work swing shift for the first 3 years. It definitely sucks ass, and is tough on your sleep patterns.

Glad to see you are getting better sleep. When I ran Endosurge, one of its best things was the deep sleep from it
 
I definitely love the sleep, and I got a pretty alpha male feel from it. I plan on a EndoSurge and FormaSurge stack at some point in the next month or so.
 
lil late but subbed dont know how I havent been following this
 
thebigt said:
some improvement in libido...not nearly what it was on the test cyp, but clearly headed in right direction.

started to get achy joints so going to cut back to 2 pumps twice a day on the formasurge. i think i am starting to see some results from the formasurge/endosurge, it's just not happening as fast as i would normally expect-which is to be expected, lol.
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So you are coming down to normal human being level?? Lol
It is awesome that these supps are out there for us to take advantage of.
 
MrKleen73 said:
I definitely love the sleep, and I got a pretty alpha male feel from it. I plan on a EndoSurge and FormaSurge stack at some point in the next month or so.
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i can only imagine what this stack would do if my test were still in the 700-800 range...even with my test tanked results are slowly starting to happen!!!
 
AZMIDLYF said:
So you are coming down to normal human being level?? Lol
It is awesome that these supps are out there for us to take advantage of.
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indeed...the results are coming just not as fast as they would if my test were higher...then again it took a few weeks of being on test cyp before i really felt effects kick in. i have to remind myself that it hasn't even been a full week yet on this stack, i think the best is yet to come!!!
 
jwa254 said:
good stuff!
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yes indeed...the deep sleep and dreams are from endo are fantastic....tomorrow morning before i go to bed i am gonna watch some porn...dreaming of big titties and nice round butts should give me morning wood no matter how low my test is!!!!:hump:
 
ok, a bit of good news...all day i slept and rested, thought i had to go in for ot tonight...last minute it was cancelled, so going to pop 2 endo's and try out a new pre-work then go for a all out workout in my basement gym!!!!
 
Lets get this party started...

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BulkPerf said:
In for porn lol
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i can't believe how good the women in porn look today...back in the day they looked like they were whorehouse rejects.... didn't stop me from watching!!!!! but damn, the girls today look like cover girls, wow!!!!


i think my libido is up, lol.
 
just had a fantastic workout...had a ton of energy, was all over the place. bp's curls presses extentions inclines declines i think i hit every piece of equiptment in my gym, and i have accumulated a lot over the years. really felt good, hell i have felt good all day today, best day i've had in awhile!!!!

hell the wife might even get lucky tonight!!!!:naughty:
 
1 week review:

mood- improved
aggression-improved
libido-improved
strength-about the same
body composition-about the same...i consider this a good thing!!!
weight-unchanged....again, this is a good thing-i had been losing what had to be lbm!!!
sleep-big improvement
 
thebigt said:
1 week review:

mood- improved
aggression-improved
libido-improved
strength-about the same
body composition-about the same...i consider this a good thing!!!
weight-unchanged....again, this is a good thing-i had been losing what had to be lbm!!!
sleep-big improvement
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Those are all BIG improvements! hell yea T! The better sleep sounds like an IDEAL situation for me : ) maybe then I can stop taking damn ambien, which apparently is the worst thing in the world

When is your next appointment for labs?
 
Valdez said:
Those are all BIG improvements! hell yea T! The better sleep sounds like an IDEAL situation for me : ) maybe then I can stop taking damn ambien, which apparently is the worst thing in the world

When is your next appointment for labs?
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This^^
 
jwa254 said:
Yeah I've heard some crazy **** about Ambien
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Increase in mortality and cancer... Awesome! I don't know which is worse dying early later OR insomnia now.
 
Valdez said:
Those are all BIG improvements! hell yea T! The better sleep sounds like an IDEAL situation for me : ) maybe then I can stop taking damn ambien, which apparently is the worst thing in the world

When is your next appointment for labs?
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the better sleep IS a big deal, i agree 100% and that's not counting the dreams...it's like whatever i am thinking about when i fall asleep, i dream about!!!

next labs is 9/21 then doc on 9/24.

really noticing some very decent improvements for just a week in...
 
line6reed said:
how long does it take for formasurge to kick in
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i would say that most people should feel effects within the 1st 3 days, by the end of a week you should be rolling....i just finished my 1st week on it, and effects are noticeable even though my test level is VERY low-someone with normal range test levels should get even more pronounced effects than what i got, imo.
 
woke up tonight with very achey joints...holy cow, didn't want to get out of bed!!! going to cut back to 1 pump for tonight and in the morning, with my test being so low i think a week+ of formasurge has got my estrogen down a little too low!!!!


on a brighter note:
libido is leaping tall buildings at a single bound!!! :147:
 
That makes total sense T. I know mine is borderline and I sure don't need much AI for results.
 
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