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TIGER BLOOD! ( BPS FORMASURGE + DAA )

murk01

murk01

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BPS FORMASURGE
Trans dermal formastane Estrogen smasher! that also acts as a " Pro-hormone 4-hydroxytestosterone, an active steroid which displays weak androgenic activity" according to wikipedia. but from what i looked up only works as a PH in extremely high doses.

DAA
Just a generic form DAA doent need an introduction, does it?

Combine the 2 and we have an awesome Test Boosting stack, Formasurge probably would do a hellova job on its own, but why not take it up a notch.
Heres the stats and a few starter pics.

Age:35
Weight: 199/196 fasted
BF%: @13 - i know im a chubby fuk, i look at my belly sometimes and punch it :(

Measurements:
Arms(Bi's) = 16.5
Forearm =13.
Waist = 34
Chest = 40.5
Calf's = 16
Thighs = 23.5

Supps:
Formasurge
DAA
Multi
Un Liver
Fish oil
Omega's
Protein
Nitrolline(NO Booster)
Caffeine



I recently started accumulating some fat. It didn't come easy took a few months of sloppy eating, and that counts today. The wife makes some good lasangue, so i tried to see if i could put about 4lbs of it down my throat at once and i did :) . But really, im going to straighten that out. So i plan to cut some of the fat and gain a little muscle along the way. I was provided 1 bottle of Formasurge, but depending on how this goes, I might continue it for an extra month.
Also will be reformatting my workout routine a bit next week.



7.23.12
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sorry for the whack pic, ill try to take a better one or two next time, in about 2weeks.
 
Day 1,
Buttered up both shoulders and bi's with Formasurge, down 3g's off DAA and 200mg of caffiene. @1hr before hitting the gym. Should of took a nap, was kinda lazy after pounding down a big meal.

Application for Formasurge could of been better, i was expecting a cream from the look of the dispenser. but i think this is a demo , the one on the site is in a spray bottle which should work alot better,




Start: 6:39

DB flat
60x20
80x12
90x10
90x8

DB incline
80x9
80x 8
80x10
80x7

DB millitay press
50x10
50x11
50x11
50x10
30x70

Dips
bwx15
bwx12
bwx: 11
bwx11

Chest Fly machine
130x15
160x9
160x10
160x8


Pushups( slight elevation )
20,11, 9, 9, 3

End 7:14


Turned out to be a good work out. went a little lighter with the weights. But deffinatly killed it. Drained almost every last bit of juice i had, but still believe i could of pushed a little harder. Cant say i got much from it yet, but way to early to tell.
 
Nice! Should be a great combo.
 
Yeh I'm siked!
Trying to figure best time and spot for application. Yesterday I did on shoulders @1hr prework out. Now I'm thinking before bed or in the morning. Not 100% any suggestions?
 
I usually apply in the morn after my shower. I just did not want it on me and all over my bed at night. I also apply it on my thighs and hips area. the underside of arms, back of knees are also other options.
 
AZMIDLYF said:
I usually apply in the morn after my shower. I just did not want it on me and all over my bed at night. I also apply it on my thighs and hips area. the underside of arms, back of knees are also other options.
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Word. I think ill start doubling up the dose am and pm. See how of goes I'm sure this.will dry the joints a bit.
 
I would squirt on your forearm and rub in with the opposing forearm. This way you don't waste any by getting it on your hands/gloves
 
jwa254 said:
I would squirt on your forearm and rub in with the opposing forearm. This way you don't waste any by getting it on your hands/gloves
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Might be a good idea.
 
Form is one of the few AIs that doesn't affect my joints.
 
Took jwa254 advice and didn't use my hands this time . Squirted it on my sides and used my inner arms to spread it. kind of felt weird doing it that way, but do think its better. Will start doubling up the dosage tomorrow. From what I researched, correct me if I'm wrong, Trans-dermal Formastane has a half life of 12hrs. So the plan is:
2 pumps at 6:30am when i get up another 2 at 6:30pm before i hit the Fukin Gymnasium!

7.24.12

Start 6:44pm

Pwo= 400mg caffeine

Horizontal leg press
115x20
215x10
215x10
215x10

Leg press
180x15
270x10
270x10
270x10

Leg extension
245x10
245x10
245x10
245x10

Leg curls
120x15
150x10
180x10
180x10

Standing calf raises
215x20
315x12
315x12
315x15- barley

Seated calf raises
180x10
180x10
180x10
180x10
Going to have to drop weight 180lb was difficult to pull off, and not happy with the pace and form.

End time 7:38pm

I know its still early to say, and i didn't really go heavy but I felt like a Dominator in the gym. maybe it was the near fatal dose of Caffeine.

8:00pm
Came home had 50g protein shake, 2 chicken breasts ova sum Fukin rice, 4 Uni-livers , 3 omega (3-6-9), beat off to some Tranny porn and read a chapter of the last Harry Potter book!

Fukin around about the last part , i don't know how to read!
 
Apply to forearms and rub together so you lose nothing. I never put formestane on my hands, you lose a lot that way. Trust me, this is the best way to dose and the skin is thin on your forearms. I did this with another product prior to FormaSurge, it works like a charm.
 
oufinny said:
Apply to forearms and rub together so you lose nothing. I never put formestane on my hands, you lose a lot that way. Trust me, this is the best way to dose and the skin is thin on your forearms. I did this with another product prior to FormaSurge, it works like a charm.
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Hm...works with Clenviscerate too?...Sounds like a solid good trick :D! I wanna try the combo of Dermacrine and Formasurge though :p get them on the planet already!
 
Celorza said:
Hm...works with Clenviscerate too?...Sounds like a solid good trick :D! I wanna try the combo of Dermacrine and Formasurge though :p get them on the planet already!
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Those have to be applied to different areas. You are talking two different carriers and DHEA has to make conversions so it needs to go on shoulders and upper back. Formasurge I would do on the forearms, you will need it dermacrine will bloat you, DHEA has a nasty habit of converting to estrogen at an alarming rate.
 
Boom.....
6:30am
Applied some Formasurge to the forearms and rubbed it on the bod. Then I was like fuk it, and applied 2 more pumps. Kicking it up to 8 pumps a day 4/4

Mixed 3g DAA with water, 4 Uni-liver, 3 omega(3-6-9)

Protien shake- 50g, 2 scoops oats, 2 table spoons olive oil.

7:10 - out the door drive to work and spend the next 8-10hrs reflecting on life!
 
oufinny said:
Those have to be applied to different areas. You are talking two different carriers and DHEA has to make conversions so it needs to go on shoulders and upper back. Formasurge I would do on the forearms, you will need it dermacrine will bloat you, DHEA has a nasty habit of converting to estrogen at an alarming rate.
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Nice info, thanks :p. I never knew you had to apply dermacrine at a certain spot!
 
Celorza said:
Nice info, thanks :p. I never knew you had to apply dermacrine at a certain spot!
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Those areas of the body have the highest concentrations for converting the product.
 
AZMIDLYF said:
Those areas of the body have the highest concentrations for converting the product.
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Does it have to do with the layer of fat under the skin. The forearms have little to no fat.
I think I read some where that body fat takes a big part in conversion to estrogen.

So would an AI work best on a fatty part if it has a higher estrogen level. Or less fatty so it enters ur system easier?
 
That was in reference to the Dermacrine. The Reps will need to chime in on the science behind your question.
 
murk01 said:
Does it have to do with the layer of fat under the skin. The forearms have little to no fat.
I think I read some where that body fat takes a big part in conversion to estrogen.

So would an AI work best on a fatty part if it has a higher estrogen level. Or less fatty so it enters ur system easier?
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Speaking anecdotally, I've have much better success with AIs by applying them to thin-skinned areas. I've applied to fattier areas, but it seems to require a higher dose to get the same effect.
 
murk01 said:
Does it have to do with the layer of fat under the skin. The forearms have little to no fat.
I think I read some where that body fat takes a big part in conversion to estrogen.

So would an AI work best on a fatty part if it has a higher estrogen level. Or less fatty so it enters ur system easier?
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I would do forearms or put some on the back of your hand or forearm and apply to abdomen. It will help to an extent with spot reduction, I know Kleen has had success putting it under the pecs to get rid of stubborn fat and shrink its appearance.
 
oufinny said:
I would do forearms or put some on the back of your hand or forearm and apply to abdomen. It will help to an extent with spot reduction, I know Kleen has had success putting it under the pecs to get rid of stubborn fat and shrink its appearance.
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I like that.
Also going to take the advice u gave the other Guy and not go OD with the daily amount. Will keep it at 4 pumps a day.
 
@ 5pm, came home, picked up the wife and fam. Went for a quick tan. the miss got her arms waxed. the boys played at the park

@ 7pm, jumped out the shower, took my two pumps and calling it a day.

Day off of the gym and hopefully catch up with some rest and sleep. Tomorrow is back, and I'm so Fukin ready to destroy that sh-t! Cant remember at time when i have be so AMPED to throw the Iron around!
 
Heres some Formastane info i came across:


"Formestane increases IGF-1 secretion and activity. 26%
Formestane decreases the number of progesterone receptors (inhibits the trenbolone and "deca-dick" type side effects and increases fat loss)
Formestane inhibits 91.9% of aromatase enzyme production
Formestane increases HPTA activity similar to HCG and Clomid together
Formestane is anabolic and androgenic (At 500mg weekly the product is similar in effects to 250mg of Primobolan Enanthate) <--really???
Formestane is a "suicide inhibitor" of aromatase. Specifically this means that it will irreversibly bind to the aromatase enzyme and permanently deactivate it
Formestane (The sterile injectable form) possesses a 4-day half-life
Formestane decreases SHBG 34% thus increasing androgen activity.
Formestane inhibits DHT (dehydrotestosterone) formation and activity.
Formestane possesses 1% of the binding affinity of DHT to DHT receptors
Formestane has been shown to decrease prostate concerns such as BPH.
Formestane has been shown to continue to increase HPTA function above natural levels even after 22 weeks of continuous administration."


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I came across an article stating the oral half life of Formastane is 3-5hrs, and 12hrs trans dermal is this correct??

how valid are the above statments?
 
Celorza said:
Hm...works with Clenviscerate too?...Sounds like a solid good trick :D! I wanna try the combo of Dermacrine and Formasurge though :p get them on the planet already!
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maybe derma in the morning, and forma at night, but still, might risk over saturating the skin. absorbtion is limited in the skin.
 
murk01 said:
Heres some Formastane info i came across:


"Formestane increases IGF-1 secretion and activity. 26%
Formestane decreases the number of progesterone receptors (inhibits the trenbolone and "deca-dick" type side effects and increases fat loss)
Formestane inhibits 91.9% of aromatase enzyme production
Formestane increases HPTA activity similar to HCG and Clomid together
Formestane is anabolic and androgenic (At 500mg weekly the product is similar in effects to 250mg of Primobolan Enanthate) <--really???
Formestane is a "suicide inhibitor" of aromatase. Specifically this means that it will irreversibly bind to the aromatase enzyme and permanently deactivate it
Formestane (The sterile injectable form) possesses a 4-day half-life
Formestane decreases SHBG 34% thus increasing androgen activity.
Formestane inhibits DHT (dehydrotestosterone) formation and activity.
Formestane possesses 1% of the binding affinity of DHT to DHT receptors
Formestane has been shown to decrease prostate concerns such as BPH.
Formestane has been shown to continue to increase HPTA function above natural levels even after 22 weeks of continuous administration."


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I came across an article stating the oral half life of Formastane is 3-5hrs, and 12hrs trans dermal is this correct??

how valid are the above statments?
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I'm not sure how formestane would increase ifg-1 secretion without increasing hgh production first, and dont know how it's going to do that, so I doubt it.

formestane doesn't decrease progestin receptors, it prob can bind to the progestin receptor (well, 4-hydroxy-test) but I doubt there is any data showing binding affinity and interaction.

formestane doesn't do anything for aromatase enzyme production. it will bind to the enzyme, preventing test from binding with it.

formestane can increase test via negative feedback loop, and also indirectly by blocking test from aromatizing into estrogen.

the hormone 4-hydroxy-testosterone, what formestane can convert to, is an androgen. if you want to use formestane as a ph, get it in capsule form, not t/d.

it is a suicide inhibitor i believe.

I doubt the injectable form posses a 4-day half life without having some ester or additional methylation to increase half life.

androgens will bind to sex hormone binding globulin, freeing up test, so will long jack.

formestane is not a 5ar inhibitor, it's an aromatase inhibitor. whether 4-hydroxy-test can 5a reduce, I dont know.

all androgens bind with the androgen receptor, there is no dht receptor. what affinity formestane will bind with the ar, who knows.

I doubt it helps with prostate issues (at least, androgen related issues, as it's an androgen)

Dont use formestane, topically, orally, or via injection for 22 weeks without a proper pct set up, and pre, intra, post blood work. you're gonna fck everything up inside you hormonal axis.
 
jbryand101b said:
I'm not sure how formestane would increase ifg-1 secretion without increasing hgh production first, and dont know how it's going to do that, so I doubt it.

formestane doesn't decrease progestin receptors, it prob can bind to the progestin receptor (well, 4-hydroxy-test) but I doubt there is any data showing binding affinity and interaction.

formestane doesn't do anything for aromatase enzyme production. it will bind to the enzyme, preventing test from binding with it.

formestane can increase test via negative feedback loop, and also indirectly by blocking test from aromatizing into estrogen.

the hormone 4-hydroxy-testosterone, what formestane can convert to, is an androgen. if you want to use formestane as a ph, get it in capsule form, not t/d.

it is a suicide inhibitor i believe.

I doubt the injectable form posses a 4-day half life without having some ester or additional methylation to increase half life.

androgens will bind to sex hormone binding globulin, freeing up test, so will long jack.

formestane is not a 5ar inhibitor, it's an aromatase inhibitor. whether 4-hydroxy-test can 5a reduce, I dont know.

all androgens bind with the androgen receptor, there is no dht receptor. what affinity formestane will bind with the ar, who knows.

I doubt it helps with prostate issues (at least, androgen related issues, as it's an androgen)

Dont use formestane, topically, orally, or via injection for 22 weeks without a proper pct set up, and pre, intra, post blood work. you're gonna fck everything up inside you hormonal axis.
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Bro. Thanks for going over each statement.!
That page made form sound like a wonder drug
 
2 pumps in the am, going for 2 more @6pm pwo.

It might be mental but I seem to be getting a slight pump from this. I use my forearm to spread it
And notice alittle pump at forearm and wrists
 
murk01 said:
2 pumps in the am, going for 2 more @6pm pwo.

It might be mental but I seem to be getting a slight pump from this. I use my forearm to spread it
And notice alittle pump at forearm and wrists
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pwo as in pre? or post? pre workout dosing and experiencing a pump occurred for me as well with other formestane products.
 
Start 7:10

Seated rows
90x20
150x10
150x10
150x10
150x10

Seated rows wide
...
90x10
120x10
120x10
120x10

Wide lat Pull-downs
135x10
135x8 taking a 1 min brk
135x10
135x9

Close grip Pull-downs
150x10
150x10
150x10
150x8

Straight arm push Downs
50x15
60x12
80x12
100x10
120x8

DB leaning laterals alth
32.5x6???wtf ...the rack20-35lb taken, had to use this sh!t
20x10
20x10
25x10

Cuban shoulder press
20x10
15x15
15x15
15x15
15x15

Standing db lateral
20x10
20x10
25x9
25x10

Back fly alt
70x10
85x10
100x10
115x10

End 8:13

After the close grip pull downs I thought i was done for. Wrong, had a burst of energy and ego! maybe it had to do with the increase in blood flow.

Starting to get the Boss feeling in the gym, not sure how long it takes for Formasurge to kick but i definitely feel different and more powerful. I have a feeling this product may be included in all my cycles / PCT's to come.....but still a little to soon to say.
 
6:30am
2 pumps formasurge
3 omega 3-6-9
1 joint Supp
4 unilivers

Shake:
2 scoops 100% whey
2 tbls extra virgin olive oil
1 half cup yogurt
1 cup oats
1 tbs creatine

Even thought. I don't list it every time I have 3 of these shakes a day.

I go back and forth with the idea but I probably will settle with 4x2 pumps a day. Currently doing 2am, 2pm.
Starting Monday doubling that
 
That will be a lot of aromatase inhibition bubba. You do still need it and the negatives will surely start to come with that sort of dosing. I always found 100mg of Form was plenty to see good results.
 
AZMIDLYF said:
That will be a lot of aromatase inhibition bubba. You do still need it and the negatives will surely start to come with that sort of dosing. I always found 100mg of Form was plenty to see good results.
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100mg daily, with my current dose I get 200mg. 4x2 would be 400mg
 
2 pumps = 50mg Form/47mg Resv
 
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