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First cycle....... Help !!!

Drope26

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What's going on guys im sick of spending all this money on creatine and test booster so I'm turning to prohormones or anabolics I've been doing research for awhile now and just need any advice possible . I 21 been lifting seriously for 3 years and would like to put on 15 lbs of dry gains and of course as little sides as possible I guess my main question is should I go with Prohormone or anabolics . About two weeks ago I had an entire cycle of hdrol planned out with all the nessacary pct liv support etc but then I started to lean to anabolics so I made no purchases . Any advice is appreciated
 
Man you cant go wrong with 500mgs of Test E a week and 30mg of D-bol a day.

1-10 500Mg Test E 250 (mon-thurs)
1-4 30mg D-bols ED

12-16 nolvadex 40/40/20/20

That would help very nicely getting you to your goal's. Hope this helps
 
Drope26 said:
So your saying don't waste my time with a PH an just go big?
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All depends on the prohormone vs the AAS. In your case, The sides of a h-drol cycle are nothing vs a dbol/test cycle, which may include testicular atrophy, severe bloating, gyno, etc. However, if it were a harsher PH like M-drol or Tri-methyl PH vs test e, you will actually have worse sides from the PH. But generally speaking, AAS are more effective towards accomplishing your goals, and injectables do not damage your liver.... all depends on what you want to do. Oh and PH's are legal whereas AAS are not; so there lies the issue with trusting your source, purity of the roids, etc..

AAS are also (usually) more effective at shutting you down, causing testicular atrophy, etc...
 
Your above post is incorrect here is why

Different people have different side effects.

Someone may have worse sides from Hdrol than a dbol/test cycle OR vice versa


I tried Mdrol- kicked my ****ing ass with sides

Test, nandrolone, dianabol, masteron winstrol no problem

Only injectable AAS I had problems with was tren- and some guys have NO sides


So just because something is legal does not make it less likely to produce side effects


It all depend on the individual user
 
And injectables DO damage your liver just not as bad as methylated steroids do
 
test e and d-bol. cant beat it. great first cycle. ran that as my first one and had signifigant gains with as low as 20mg of dbol a day. thats just me though, everyone is different
 
Thanks for the info . I'm def still considering running hdrol or even epi due to the fact that i havent found a soild source for aas . I'm mostly worried about keepin my gains with a PH
 
im having trouble figuring out which one to do; injections or pills. also have read that you lose your gains with PHs.
 
You will lose your gains with what ever you do, unless you do a good pct, and even then you will prob lose a pound or two, that's just the way it is. If you do decide to go to the dark side just be carefull, always b prepared with everything you might need on hand, and be patient! Good luck with your goals
 
Drope26 said:
What's going on guys im sick of spending all this money on creatine and test booster so I'm turning to prohormones or anabolics I've been doing research for awhile now and just need any advice possible . I 21 been lifting seriously for 3 years and would like to put on 15 lbs of dry gains and of course as little sides as possible I guess my main question is should I go with Prohormone or anabolics . About two weeks ago I had an entire cycle of hdrol planned out with all the nessacary pct liv support etc but then I started to lean to anabolics so I made no purchases . Any advice is appreciated
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Dude I was in the same boat
Felt like I was blowing my wad on supps every month. Didn't want to pin so I decided to try superdrol. Realty had no noticeable sides and gained a little over 20lb in 4 weeks. Felt like a monster. At 212. But lost about half of it. Feel like the incredable shrinking man.
Dude best advice. It costs more but its quality gains when u go natural. Spend less on supps and more on food. And keep at it. What u gain u keep for years.

That said, of u want to go that route
I'd say pin. Don't have experiance with it. But I might try it my self

Do a lot of reasearch. Know.exactly what ur getting into and what to expect. Evey cycle is different to different ppl.

Good luck G. And log what ever you do.
 
RoyalT81 said:
You will lose your gains with what ever you do, unless you do a good pct, and even then you will prob lose a pound or two, that's just the way it is. If you do decide to go to the dark side just be carefull, always b prepared with everything you might need on hand, and be patient! Good luck with your goals
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Lol no pct. Testo for life!
 
On products that put on a lot of weight it's uselly a lot of water, wich when you get off you will lose water retention, lose of weight, if you stick to compounds that are primary lean gains the weight lose wont b so dramatic, also if you take a AI during your cycle on say super drol you won't hold so much water, but increase of water weight will make you stronger, like Murk said just spend time researching don't rush it, and really bro your 21 imagine if you mastered how to train and eat naturally to gain, then applied that strategy to an prohormon or steroid cycle that's the key! Brother
 
I'll just wager that no matter what you do, you won't get 15 lean pounds from any cycle that you'll still have kept 3 months after pct.
 
It all takes time I went from 178 8% bf to 242 16%bf in about three years, I estamated I gained 20lbs of lean mass give or take, tons of eating training smart and going to bed around 11 every night. You just have to keep at it,
 
Test is most certainly hepatoxic and can damage your liver. Not half as badly as the majority of PHs, but don't skimp on liver aid when it comes to that stuff.

Best advice I ever got in the months spent researching anabolics was to just go straight to pinning. Test-E is a great compound for the intermediate lifter/beginning anabolic-user, and you could always run a more mild PH kicker at the start of your cycle if you really wanted to run a PH. Longer cycle, typically less sides (no guarantee, of course, as all have said), and, in my opinion, easier-to-keep gains than a quick 4-5 week PH cycle.
 
Here's the thing with steroids

All steroids INCREASE THE BODY'S ABILITY TO RETAIN GKYCOGEN
Some moreso than others

Dianabol and superdrol both have ENORMOUS boosts to glycogen retention- thus when I use dbol I gain anywhere from 8-13 lbs in the first TEN. Days

Most of that is water and glycogen.

Now then once glycogen stores are increased and the water has come on most of the weight following that is either muscle- or fat.


Consequently when you STOP using anabolic steroids you no longer base super glycogen compensation- it is normal to loose 2-3 lbs of glycogen, and a couple lbs of water(if using "wet" steroids)

Now then.

I gained 2bs my first injectable cycle. I have kept ALOT of the size even after a heavy cut I'm still bigger and more filled out than before.

You don't have to loose your gains- some weight will be lost but as mentioned it is usually a combination of water and glycogen and perhaps a sma amount of muscle!

People get to worked up over the scale! Go by body composition- do you ficking look bigger than you did before the cycle? If not- your doing something very wrong

Steroids work- but THEY ARE ONLY A SUPPLEMENT TO TIME HARD WORK AND EATING/resting right if you do not have the foundations down and use hormones- you might get big whole on- but you will not look nearly as big when you come off

/end rant
 
28lbs on first cycle not 2 lol
 
U ain't lying homie. Its funny I'm on my pct now and ppl think I'm still ON lol, I guess I'm doing something right haha.
 
Everyone seems to be dodging his biggest problem on injectables. He doesn't have a pure source yet. With that said, hdrol and epi are really mild and relatively easy to keep gains. If you can't find a good source for injectables, those 2 are great for getting your feet wet. But Iike everyone said, test is superior if you can get a pure source for it.
 
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