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Rome Recomps with Compound 20

rome32 said:
Today was Legs and Cardio.

I usually don't go all out on legs because it is a gift, but today I needed to move some poundage and let some frustrations out.

Needless to say Cardio was 15 minutes at 8 miles and hour...really wanna shock my body to start off my leaning process. Did this prior to my leg workout which went.

Squats. 3 sets of 315lb
8,15,9...feeling like a beast I tore off(more like just took off) my shirt and strapped the belt on tight.

Now entering Beast Mode

I decided to flip my next lift for leg press. 400lb for 4 sets.
12,12,10,13. My press machine is inverted so your in a steep angle pointed at the ceiling so it kinda sucks lol but gotta make due

Next I wanted high rep Leg Extensions. So 3 sets At 150lb.
15,15,21(failure)

Next is hamstrings.

Good Mornings. No bent knees today. 3 sets at 115lb.
12,12,17(failure)

Dumbell Dead lifts. 4 sets at 105lb(210lb all together)

Calves with 20 second stretches between sets.

Standing calves press. 245lb for 4 sets.
30,30,50,40.

Calves Press on Leg press Machine. 6 sets. (15 regular, 15 inverted, 15 exverted, hold for 10 seconds and 5 regular= 1 set)
Last sets after holding for 10 seconds I went to failure and got 21 good reps out of it.

Then Cardio like I said above.

Today I needed to let some tension out, I'm naturally a nice and nonconfrontational guy, but I found myself a a darker side. I'm always happy and love life, but something deep inside me is driving me, that pent up anger, aggression, and frustration is shaping me. I compare it, like a nerd, to Spiderman 3 where he gets the black suit and his powers expand, but he becomes a a whole other person.

I feel anger when I touch the iron, not the harmony I felt just weeks ago. I feel like I'm rediscovering myself all over again. I was hiding my rage inside me and only let it out when I felt threatened(refer back to my Anabeta Elite/ Erase Pro/ DAA log, which I highly recommend) . Now I feel like I'm at a constant state of not beast mode, but Survival Mode. If I don't push myself or feel pain I will cease to exist.

Genetics may not be in my favor, but Damnit I'm gonna make myself capable, I want to be Pro, I want to win shows. This first show in October is not to win, but to see where I stand. To see where I need to improve. My chest is lacking and I'm afraid my arms won't be big enoigh, but that won't stop me.

I'm gonna step on that stage Roman and step off as VICTORIOUS. Just the thought that I did it is enough to make me a champion. A changed man with a dream and hardly do my dreams never become reality. I had a dream I took 4th at my first show...I would be happy with second to last as long as I don't lose.

I know your guys support will help keep it going.

I. WANT. IT.

And please by all means share you passions and drives with me. This may be a Compound 20 log, but your motivations may help keep my spark lit as well as for others reading this.

We are a community hear to help eachother so let's get it. Looking forward to hearing some stories.

Stay Tuned Brothers.
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This would be a perfect Univeral/Animal Ad!! Keep it up Rome.
 
Rome,

I think you enter beast. Its just status quo for you. Awesome workout ! All the best.
 
fumoney said:
Rome,

I think you enter beast. Its just status quo for you. Awesome workout ! All the best.
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Thanks my man! I appreciate it..maybe that'll be my name Roman "Beast" Denton Haha
 
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Here are my starting pictures to my C20 log and edning pictures of my ABE/EP/DAA log!
 
Alright! Ready to log yesterdays back demolition.

I got a bottle of Hemavol cas wfrom a local store for a crazy low price and decided to test it out yesterday , but save the rest until after C20 is done. I took 5 pills in the AM and 5 30 minutes prior to exercise

Started off with 3 sets of 10 pull-ups to get a good stretch and get the blood flowing.
After yet another stressful day at work and in life I decided lets go heavy.

V-Bar Pull-downs. 4 sets. let my partner do 2 sets then I warmed up with 140lb for 20 reps.
next...
185lb x10, 235lb x8(PR), 205lb x10.

Felt good.

Next was T-bar rows. 3 sets.

135lb x20, 225lb x10, 315lb x6(PR) I used straps for my last set bc I knew my forearms wouldn't hold much more weight.

Then V-bar rows. 4 sets
185lb(2 sets) x10, 235lb x8(PR),235lb x7.

Cable reverse flys. 1 warm up sets of 15 reps at 30lb
1 working set of 35lb until failure...honestly lost track, but I'd guess 25-30+ reps to be honest.

Then we did an ab workout.

Decline bench medicine ball tosses. 4 sets of 15 with a 12lb ball.

Then we did Circuit Training. 3 runs of...

Then hanging leg lifts. Knees up,down, legs out,down=1 rep an did this 10 times.

Roman Chair sit ups with a 12lb medicine ball.

Hanging leg twists. 10 each side for 20 total

Reverse Roman Chair sit-ups. no weight for 15 reps.

After 2 runs we did 4 sets of Roman Chair twists with a 10lb medicine ball. left-right=1 for 20 reps per set.

Needless to say I'm super sore today and the all the shift changes are draining me. I drink hella energy drinks at work to 1 keep me awake and alert and 2 keep me from ripping ignorant peoples heads off...

Yesterday we had a line out the door and all the others working (4 other people) went to go see the shipment guy and talked in a circle while I handles the customers...2 people even shut down their drawers! Like really?

We even had a racial dispute in line between two ghetto black girls and a hickish D-bag white guy...

IDK if any of you have experinced this before, but standing in the same place for 9 hours getting yelled at and people putting you down all day, being rude, really gets to you...I caled my manager to come in because I was so frustrated with everyone.

But as for C20 not much has been noticed except I get groggy when I don't take them every 6 hours now..my body won't wait for 8 hours.. sp there is extra eneergy I'm getting from this and with how busy I've been lately I need this energy boost..not saying it's a crazy stim like OEP or Dexaprine, but I helps. Also my "love-handles" have almost disappeared and the lines in my abs are starting to show through.


And I, with the help of a friend, revamped my cutting cycle. Before I cut I am going to take Ostra RX and Exemestane(4 weeks) followed by Anabeta Elite(4 weeks)

Which then I will start my OEP, Formula-X, AT2, SS Meth-Syn, Shift, and maybe Agmatine log prepping for my first show at the Lakewood in Ohio!!

I was thinking of adding a cortisol reducer here soon for the lower ab fat(cortisol related if I'm correct). So any suggestions guys?!
 
rome32 said:
Which then I will start my OEP, Formula-X, AT2, SS Meth-Syn, Shift, and maybe Agmatine log prepping for my first show at the Lakewood in Ohio!!
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That's quite the stack, Rome!

Do you have a history of stim tolerance/dependance? Wondering if C20 is starting to make you dependant upon it to be alert. Of course a lot of stress in your life will do that to you too, also will increase cortisol.
 
cswalczakny said:
That's quite the stack, Rome!

Do you have a history of stim tolerance/dependance? Wondering if C20 is starting to make you dependant upon it to be alert. Of course a lot of stress in your life will do that to you too, also will increase cortisol.
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How can c20 make someone stim tolerant
 
Clemenza said:
How can c20 make someone stim tolerant
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Wasn't saying that it was a stim. Just curious if he has a history of metabolism/energy level becoming dependant on supps or not. Some keep the "boost" feeling of supps for the entire run, others find they have to either take more to feel effect or just feel normalized on reg dose after a bit. Might be a stretch to correlate stim and non stim products in this way, but I've had this experience with non stims in the past. Could also be psychosomatic, who knows.

Was bouncing between threads and didn't really explain what I was asking, sorry.
 
cswalczakny said:
That's quite the stack, Rome!

Do you have a history of stim tolerance/dependance? Wondering if C20 is starting to make you dependant upon it to be alert. Of course a lot of stress in your life will do that to you too, also will increase cortisol.
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I am very tolerant when it comes to stims. I can drink a monster and go to bed 10 minutes later
 
cswalczakny said:
That's quite the stack, Rome!

Do you have a history of stim tolerance/dependance? Wondering if C20 is starting to make you dependant upon it to be alert. Of course a lot of stress in your life will do that to you too, also will increase cortisol.
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I am very tolerant when it comes to stims. I can drink a monster and go to bed 10 minutes later. I usually take the highest recommended doses for preworkouts

And Clem I think he meant maybe due to all my stress lately I've be one dependent in taking energy supplements or the C20 has some psychological effect to where I believe I need the product. I got that way on my last log too. If it wasn't perfect I felt my whole body was out of whack ha.

I hope it ends soon because I have a lot of prep to do! Ha
 
cswalczakny said:
Wasn't saying that it was a stim. Just curious if he has a history of metabolism/energy level becoming dependant on supps or not. Some keep the "boost" feeling of supps for the entire run, others find they have to either take more to feel effect or just feel normalized on reg dose after a bit. Might be a stretch to correlate stim and non stim products in this way, but I've had this experience with non stims in the past. Could also be psychosomatic, who knows.

Was bouncing between threads and didn't really explain what I was asking, sorry.
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My bad I didn't read your post correctly. But my question was serious. Bc I've heard people saying c20 can enhance the effects of stims. If this is true I'm curious as to if it can cause stim tolerance.
 
Mondays Chest workout.

Dumbell Press. 3 sets.
80s x12, 100s x7, 100s x6.

Incline Dumbell Press. 3 sets
80s x10,12,9

Incline Flies with 35s for 4 sets
5 all the way down to the floor and 5 halfway. Arms locked for full stretch.

Bench Press at 185lb 3 sets.
7 rest pause between sets.
7,7,8.

Cable flies at 27.5lb per hand for 7 sets. Every set til failure.

Destroyed.
 
Clemenza said:
My bad I didn't read your post correctly. But my question was serious. Bc I've heard people saying c20 can enhance the effects of stims. If this is true I'm curious as to if it can cause stim tolerance.
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I've found with some supps that increase energy or some other metabolic action an apparent suppression of natural energy levels that usually leads to increase in dosage or shortened time between doses.

Just drawing a similarity between this phenomena typical of stims and what romes experiencing with the c20
 
rome32 said:
...Before I cut I am going to take Ostra RX and Exemestane(4 weeks) followed by Anabeta Elite(4 weeks)

Which then I will start my OEP, Formula-X, AT2, SS Meth-Syn, Shift, and maybe Agmatine log prepping for my first show at the Lakewood in Ohio!!

I was thinking of adding a cortisol reducer here soon for the lower ab fat(cortisol related if I'm correct). So any suggestions guys?!
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You can add a product that will help re cortisol control if you want, but it doesn't mean that your "lower ab fat" is going to go, just so you know, since it is going to be far more dependent on factors aside from stress, and most certainly supplements are only going to be a SMALL part of your progress/results. But, re recommendations, personally I love Erase and it has far more benefits than just cortisol control, all of which would be beneficial for competition preparation.

On another note, I take it you're not going to do a "natural" competition, and if you were, you'd want to check what compounds/products can and cannot be used before doing thus.

~Rosie~
 
Rosie Chee said:
You can add a product that will help re cortisol control if you want, but it doesn't mean that your "lower ab fat" is going to go, just so you know, since it is going to be far more dependent on factors aside from stress, and most certainly supplements are only going to be a SMALL part of your progress/results. But, re recommendations, personally I love Erase and it has far more benefits than just cortisol control, all of which would be beneficial for competition preparation.

On another note, I take it you're not going to do a "natural" competition, and if you were, you'd want to check what compounds/products can and cannot be used before doing thus.

~Rosie~
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Thanks Rosie.

I am actually on my break from Erase Pro(8 week run) as we speak. And the diet and training are good, life stress factors are killing me at the point. Like a constant headache.

The Ostra Rx and Exemestane was a curious idea. I want to use them, but still debating.

But again thank you for your input!
 
cswalczakny said:
I've found with some supps that increase energy or some other metabolic action an apparent suppression of natural energy levels that usually leads to increase in dosage or shortened time between doses.

Just drawing a similarity between this phenomena typical of stims and what romes experiencing with the c20
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Look around for me and see if you can find something that has more insight on this topic. Interesting to say the least.
 
Clemenza said:
My bad I didn't read your post correctly. But my question was serious. Bc I've heard people saying c20 can enhance the effects of stims. If this is true I'm curious as to if it can cause stim tolerance.
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We're in the same boat
 
rome32 said:
Thanks Rosie.

I am actually on my break from Erase Pro(8 week run) as we speak. And the diet and training are good, life stress factors are killing me at the point. Like a constant headache.

The Ostra Rx and Exemestane was a curious idea. I want to use them, but still debating.

But again thank you for your input!
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No worries :)

Ok - apologies for not knowing. If you're going to have at least a month before starting your second proposed stack, then it'd be ok to add in - that is, if you want to. There are other things out there that you can use though - Lean Xtreme, for example, or Suppress-C if you're looking for a topical, etc.

I recommend that you choose your organization and then make that decision on usage or not - you don't want to take any chances.


rome32 said:
Look around for me and see if you can find something that has more insight on this topic. Interesting to say the least.
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The manufacturers of the product should be able to provide insight into this - query them.

~Rosie~
 
rome32 said:
I am very tolerant when it comes to stims. I can drink a monster and go to bed 10 minutes later
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Same here I slam back a xl coffee and my sons hockey games (he's 17 so they play pretty late)..and no issues with sleep.

Rome what about adding in ECA stack during your cut?
 
wasme said:
Been following an Ostra long on here.. sounds pretty good.. Expensive stuff though...

Is Exemestane an anti-aromatase?
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Yeah exemestane is.

Can you post the link to that log for me on here brother?
 
wasme said:
Same here I slam back a xl coffee and my sons hockey games (he's 17 so they play pretty late)..and no issues with sleep.

Rome what about adding in ECA stack during your cut?
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I was thinking about it. I may add it I may not.
 
Rosie Chee said:
No worries :)

Ok - apologies for not knowing. If you're going to have at least a month before starting your second proposed stack, then it'd be ok to add in - that is, if you want to. There are other things out there that you can use though - Lean Xtreme, for example, or Suppress-C if you're looking for a topical, etc.

I recommend that you choose your organization and then make that decision on usage or not - you don't want to take any chances.

The manufacturers of the product should be able to provide insight into this - query them.

~Rosie~
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Supress-c is a cortisol topical? Interesting. I'm going to check out out thanks!

Everscerate Smolder looks good for a fat burnering topical as well.
 
rome32 said:
Supress-c is a cortisol topical? Interesting. I'm going to check out out thanks!

Everscerate Smolder looks good for a fat burnering topical as well.
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Yes Suppress-C is.

Eviscerate Smolder is good, but is not a topical re cortisol control.

~Rosie~
 
rome32 said:
Right ES is a fat burning topical.
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I personally preferred the original Eviscerate re effectiveness, but if you'd rather less burn, then Eviscerate Smolder is recommended.

~Rosie~
 
Rosie Chee said:
I personally preferred the original Eviscerate re effectiveness, but if you'd rather less burn, then Eviscerate Smolder is recommended.

~Rosie~
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So you think the original is more effective?
 
rome32 said:
So you think the original is more effective?
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It is - as far as ingredients (you'll know this if you read the write-up on it), but it also was more effective for me overall, although I eventually opted to used the Smolder, because being in the US my skin started being so sensitive the original burned me for HOURS afterwards.

~Rosie~
 
Rosie Chee said:
It is - as far as ingredients (you'll know this if you read the write-up on it), but it also was more effective for me overall, although I eventually opted to used the Smolder, because being in the US my skin started being so sensitive the original burned me for HOURS afterwards.

~Rosie~
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Kevinhy told me it was painful, but was it really worth the pain? If so I can handle it ha
 
So what's happening with c20?

Are you noticing the fullness? Appetite increase?

U said u lost your love handles? If so nice job!
 
AaronJP1 said:
So what's happening with c20?

Are you noticing the fullness? Appetite increase?

U said u lost your love handles? If so ni ce job!
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Def keeping size in my arms, shoulders, and of course legs. Pretty much all overuse still feel pumped up, of I take it accordingly.

Also I feel like its Anabeta as far as appetite, increase, but I've learned to control it.

The love handle loss from my long term bulk makes it worth it. I'm hoping to rediscover my abs here in the next few weeks!
 
rome32 said:
Kevinhy told me it was painful, but was it really worth the pain? If so I can handle it ha
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It depends on the individual, really. It didn't really bother me until my second tube over here - my skin has become so sensitive that I will not even use Smolder now, because it has started burning as badly. You'd have to try it and see for yourself.

~Rosie~
 
Rosie Chee said:
It depends on the individual, really. It didn't really bother me until my second tube over here - my skin has become so sensitive that I will not even use Smolder now, because it has started burning as badly. You'd have to try it and see for yourself.

~Rosie~
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I will, thanks again for your help Rosie!
 
Just getting to the gym now..ipod in. I don't plan on destroying the weights tonight... annihilation seems to be the word of choice.
 
Drove 50 minutes to hit shoulders with some buddies and I felt pitiful the whole time.

I didn't take my C20 prior to the workout and notices a huge difference. I didn't even think about it until I grabbed my post shake and heard the pills rattle.

Maybe that's an explaination? Or maybe because my Triceps still hurt from the arm training.

So far no increase in recovery at all, atleast in Triceps, but biceps are already good to go.

I wonder..
 
Well after a 13 hour day I hit the gym for a Back workout and let's just say it was lack-luster compared to last weeks...

I had a great shoulder day before up with my buddies in Akron

I'm starting to believe I was over trainined. I am going to keep my lifts to 4-5 lifts with a total of 25 sets. 5-12 reps per set.
I apologize this log has not been the best, I don't want to make an excuse I simply have not put the quality time into this one that I did my previous.

I want to say I am finally seeing my visual results. Mostly in vascularity in the forearm region, quads, and bicep. Body fat is slightly below where it was when I started. I was asked to do a shoot in two weeks, but I think I am going to decline..I'm having trouble finding time to relax and stay stress free.

My job blows...it's always something...we had a school bus take out a pump and dispense 35+ gallons of gas in the parking lot. I had to carry 12 50lb(Our job description says we have to be able to lift themn and transport them) bags outside to solo and spread it on the gas heading for the sewer grate. No body helped, but they did stand outside and tell people we were closed...it took 4 people to tell customers to evacuate and 1 to move 600lbs of absorbant salt...something is not right here. then I had to clean it up while everyone sat on their phones and ate...it was a 3 hour clean up and luckily for me one girl help the dustpan for me, but couldnt dump it in the barrel...then I got little to no credit because I went inside to eat and get water(stomache and chest pains) when the DM came to inspect. Everyone said they did their part...seriously, watch the cameras and see what happend people.

This was after I got called in to take a shift on my day off and finished the shoulder workout in Akron(50 minutes away)

I need some rest. I dont know what else to do. Diet has been good of course. I can't wait for vacation to S.C. Getting a week pass at a local gym and just carbing up all week during my cutting diet, I say F-it! If I am being forced to compete in the upper class because the competition is on my birthday, but technically I won't be 20 for 5 hours prior to the end of the show I need to be as big as I can be, scrawny hardness won't win shows, but shredded defined bulk will. Maybe Agmatine will keep me pumped and swoll for the show. Only 135 days until the show...plenty of time to grow.

Going for a lean bulk after this, meaning I will start my competition diet while trying to bulk..I will tims the ratios by 1.5 to keep it up there, but after that run its strict and to the T!

every workout from now on is serious and dark. Headphones in and hat pulled down. "I don't usually where a hat when I lift, but when I do, I go Sofa King HARD!"-The Most Interesting Man in the World.
 
Be Bixby at work and Ferrigno in the gym
 
Had a great chest workout last night. Started at 1130om and ended at 1230 so my pace was finally in track!

I didn't have a spotter so I had to compensate. Inbetween lifts I did 20 pushups as well.

Flat bench. 8-10 rest pauses between sets. 4 sets of 205lb
Reps. 7,6,6,5.

Slight Incline Dumbell flies. Rest pauses. 25lb warm up with deep flies. Then regular flies for 3 sets with 45s.
Reps. 10,11,9.

Decline Bench. 4 sets 155lb.
Reps. 10,10,12,10.

Incline Dumbell press. 3 sets of 60s. I wanted to focus on the squeeze.
Reps. 9,9,10.

Low Pull Chest Fly. 7 sets at 35lbs per hand.
Reps. 12,12,10,7(starting gagging at this point due to heat),8(gag), 8(more gagging), 10.

Strength is still there even with the calorie and carb cut.

My chest has actually grown more in the past couple weeks. Which is great for me! lol

I other than the sweating no other weight loss effects. I feel like the compound 20 is at a standstill now. It's still providing that energy we had discussed earlier and the sweat is def. there. I'm starting to feel more full throughout the day as well.

It should be kicking in full gear soon! Hopefully!

Stay Tuned.
 
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