ConcreteConny
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I will be. I'll post the link in here when I get my bottle and start
Awesome! Looking forward to the log :thumbsup:
I will be. I'll post the link in here when I get my bottle and start
Awesome! Looking forward to the log :thumbsup:
steppinRazor said:Would there be any benefit or negative in running this with an ai like erase?
Am interested in this product Do u need to take any type of pct with this sorry if it's been answered before hand
Just ordered my bottle, and with those savings from the discount I rushed it out. Can't wait to run this. Finished PCT over a month ago, been running Creatine as my only supp since then. Diet is just about dialed in. I think I might log it.
Thanks again for all the info, and for bringing a great product like this to the market. IML is the last of a dying breed...a supp company with balls.
Only real benefit I can see an AI giving is to give the natty test boosters in there a little more of an edge. I don't think an AI has this type of affect on the androgen receptors themselves. I could be wrong though. That is just my take on it.
An AI would be really great. Remember that most people that experienced "shutdown" on straight ostarine usually experienced the same amount of shutdown as if you went on a weekend bender. Nothing drastic. The most noticeable thing though is high dosed/long term ostarine runs elevated E2. It's possible the lowered T came from that. So there's this idea that if you used an AI you would negate any potential shutdown due to increased E2. This would basically be your PCT, lol, and you wouldn't even need a PostCT if you ran the AI on cycle.
actually Osta Rx can be used along with PCT, or bridging (in between cycles) as well as a stand alone and it can be used by both males and females, it's non-hormonal.
How can you claim that this is non-hormonal when users have reported moderate shutdown at higer doeses and elevated E2 levels?
BBB said:How can you claim that this is non-hormonal when users have reported moderate shutdown at higer doeses and elevated E2 levels?
cr8tine said:Sry for the newb question.. So the difference between osta-gain vs. rx is one is from a research company and the other is not. Correct?
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To my knowledge this is the only supplement company that is bringing ostarine to the market now so we can be assured of the purity and potency since they test their products. The others are all research chems that is correct.
because it's not a hormone.
But it binds to the androgen receptor. Which to me would mean some shutdown. Ive seen labs for both sides and im pretty confident at doses that most body builders would research there will be some shutdown.
This of course didnt stop me from picking some up.
How can you claim that this is non-hormonal when users have reported moderate shutdown at higer doeses and elevated E2 levels?
because it's not a hormone.
But it binds to the androgen receptor. Which to me would mean some shutdown. Ive seen labs for both sides and im pretty confident at doses that most body builders would research there will be some shutdown.
This of course didnt stop me from picking some up.
Technically, IML is correct in saying that it is NOT a hormone.
SARMS are part of a new class/family of nonsteroidal molecules that happen to have selectivity and specificity for the AR.
They do shut people down similar to steroids when used in higher doses (google for reviews).
That said, it will be a lot less likely to do so at lower to sane doses, although it still might. As always, depends on factors unique to the user.
Keep in mind that the doses used in the studies were substantially lower than what we as bb'ers intend to use. Our interest/objective is obviously not the same as what these SARMS were designed for (replacing TEST in TRT). To achieve the results we want, requires much higher dosing and with that, comes unwanted sides. These sides pale in comparison to steroids though.
I'm using LCLT when I start mine. More androgen receptors. Theoretically I would think that means the osta would work better.
Whacked lookin' Jacked. Also, I like to keep bringing up the point that many of those bloods are invalid since they had been taking possibly contaminated research chem ostarine.
I'm using LCLT when I start mine. More androgen receptors. Theoretically I would think that means the osta would work better.
I'm using LCLT when I start mine. More androgen receptors. Theoretically I would think that means the osta would work better.
steppinRazor said:Would there be any benefit or negative in running this with an ai like erase?
AZMIDLYF said:PMs are full champ! Question on dosing
because it's not a hormone.
I am running Osta with erase. I am on day 3
AZMIDLYF said:Is this the IML version or a research brand?
Research brand from Europe. I am feeling fine on 17.5. Gonna take it up to 25 tomorrow. The first day I felt a bit like I was on ephedrine with gross taste for a few hours. I started taking erase 10 days ago and having great results of that alone. Most supps up till now have been bs. Thought I would dip my toe into something more hardcore. I will post results. No one has heard of it out of my gym rat friends but they are all interested after reading up on claims.
I will post my results on this thread
I'm excited to try this but weary of a new un-approved drug. Not sure about the safety of the product. So I'm not sure about jumping right in.
I was thinking about this as well. The good thing is that this compound has already gone through a number of clinical trials, which were carried out by a company called GTx. From what I can tell, the FDA gave the green-light for a PIII trial, so that means the compound must've passed the safety criteria set forth by the FDA in PI and PII trials.
Sooo, as long as IML is giving us the same compound, it's probably safer taking this than most of the other anabolics being sold.
Granted, the dosages tested weren't as high as what we'll be taking, but still...
When is it out?
Yeah I still want to take it but I'm just worried about it. It is just in my nature to worry about what I taking. I don't know but for some reason I'm worried more about this stuff.
There comes a time when we have to choose to believe Reps for companies or not. Give us honest feedback from users.If your product is good then u have my support. That should be the way we judge products.I will say USPLABS,GASPARI,BSN,and Primordial have been better to my body than most,but,with honest feedback,Ironman labs products may be good also.I like to research things before I try them as well. Ostarine has more clinical information than most of the products sold OTC. I have used it before but I'm not sure it was the real deal since I really didn't notice much if anything. It was the sublingual version and mine tasted good. Most people say they have to gag the stuff down.
LikeMike said:For everyone who placed a pre-order, has anyone's osta been shipped yet? I'm still patiently awaiting mine. I thought it would have shipped out by today but I was wrong.
For everyone who placed a pre-order, has anyone's osta been shipped yet? I'm still patiently awaiting mine. I thought it would have shipped out by today but I was wrong.
It says shipping Wednesday.Still waiting. I did notice on the BD website that it no longer says "pre-order". It now says "add to cart", which leads me to believe they got their shipment. Hopefully we'll get it in another day or two.