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Intimidate Question/concern

joshv155

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Starting taking Intimidate 4 nights ago. I take it about 9:30pm, I am in bed by about 10pm and I get up at 4:30am for work. Everyday since I have started taking it I literally have trouble waking up. I usually work out in the morning, at work, at around 10am. I haven't been able to the past few days because I feel like a zombie. Three days in a row I have actually laid down on the couch at work and have fallen asleep. I actually thought I was getting sick cause I felt like I had been hit by a bus (my wife has been sick the past week 1/2 so I thought i was getting it).

Anyways this morning alarm goes off at 430 am. I lay there and close my eyes thinking I will get up in a second. I open my eyes, get up, get ready for work only to look at the clock as I am getting ready and it is 6am ! I literally felt like I had just blinked and got up...but fell asleep for another hour 1/2 !

I have yet to even workout while taking Intimidate cause my whole schedule is screwed and I feel like a wreck.....

Anyone have any issues like this ? Should I be taking it earlier in the night ? I thought I was supposed to wake up well rested...not wanting to sleep all day long.
 
I was the same way for the first 2 weeks of my cycle, it gets easier as time goes on and trust me, Intimidate is worth it. I ran it 8 weeks and tapered off with erase. Just drink lots of coffee and allow yourself alot of time for sleep ;)
 
When you say you tapered it with Erase what exactly do you mean ? When did you start using erase with it ? Thanks for the response...I was wondering what the deal was. I was an hour late for work today...boss was pissed.
 
Weeks:
1-Iforce
2-Iforce
3-Iforce
4-iforce+erase
5-iforce+erase
6-iforce+erase
7-erase
8-erase
 
this board seems to be the only one with people reporting sleep issues, very odd(not doubting you, just confusing!).


The people who have continued on with Intimidate note that their sleep improves, but it takes a few days. I'd suggest either taking yoru dose upon waking, or taking some ZMA with your intimidate.
 
VaughnTrue said:
this board seems to be the only one with people reporting sleep issues, very odd(not doubting you, just confusing!).


The people who have continued on with Intimidate note that their sleep improves, but it takes a few days. I'd suggest either taking yoru dose upon waking, or taking some ZMA with your intimidate.
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Ill throw it on bb for ya if it'll make you feel better ;)

IMO its a good thing, I sleep alot since Im on it but I love it. Just been using a little vacation time.
 
VaughnTrue said:
this board seems to be the only one with people reporting sleep issues, very odd(not doubting you, just confusing!).

The people who have continued on with Intimidate note that their sleep improves, but it takes a few days. I'd suggest either taking yoru dose upon waking, or taking some ZMA with your intimidate.
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That's lame!
 
Why are people taking it before bed to get good sleep, but if that doesn't work, the suggestion is take it when you wake up? Those seem like two extremes. I just want to understand how this product actually works.
 
kisaj said:
Why are people taking it before bed to get good sleep, but if that doesn't work, the suggestion is take it when you wake up? Those seem like two extremes. I just want to understand how this product actually works.
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we suggest people take it prior to sleep due to every single alpha tester + beta tester getting INCREDIBLE sleep from the product. We had our alpha testers use it both in the morning, as well as at night. We noted slightly enhanced effects when consumed at night, so that is our reccomendation.


I am suggesting people take it in the morning to ensure they get good sleep(if they arent already getting awesome sleep from Intimidate). Everyones body is different, and unfortunately there are always poeplep who respond uniquely to certain compounds.


Intimidate works through activation of NMDA receptors in our brains.
 
Ok, I thought that NMDA caused drowsiness and that being the reason to take it before sleeping. If it doesn't then I guess it wouldn't matter when you take it.
 
I get noticeably drowsy 15 minutes after I take it...so I don't think taking it in the morning would be a good thing. I sleep great...it's been the waking up part that has been difficult the past few days.
 
OP, my first few days on intimidate, I didn't have horrible sleep, but it was nothing special to talk about. After a little more than a week, I started to have really good sleep!

Mike
 
kisaj said:
Ok, I thought that NMDA caused drowsiness and that being the reason to take it before sleeping. If it doesn't then I guess it wouldn't matter when you take it.
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I guess if all the quote unquote alpha testers were from this forum maybe they would have had sleep issues too. Why are you guys forcing your brain to do something it really doesn't want to do? To what? Very and I mean very subtle advances in body composition. Cmon please. Seems redundant. Wake up! Is really with the 70 bucks?
 
Mission1 said:
I guess if all the quote unquote alpha testers were from this forum maybe they would have had sleep issues too. Why are you guys forcing your brain to do something it really doesn't want to do? To what? Very and I mean very subtle advances in body composition. Cmon please. Seems redundant. Wake up! Is really with the 70 bucks?
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That is why I keep asking questions, I want to know everything about it. The only thing I see repeated is the fact that it makes you sleep really heavy, and that doesn't make for a great supplement imo. I haven't tried it, but if I saw and read more than it makes you sleep, it would be interesting.

I see it around for $40, btw.
 
id suggest reading as many logs as possible, and asking individual users their experiences/results so you can know more what to expect from real end users.
 
kisaj said:
That is why I keep asking questions, I want to know everything about it. The only thing I see repeated is the fact that it makes you sleep really heavy, and that doesn't make for a great supplement imo. I haven't tried it, but if I saw and read more than it makes you sleep, it would be interesting.

I see it around for $40, btw.
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Sorry I meant if you were to buy 2 bottles. Which normally would be the recommended cycle, but due to some inconsistency in the product in my opinion, it supposedly give you better sleep has resulted differently in many users. Now there seems to be a scramble to use other sleep aids to work with it. Who were these alpha testers?? And why is this the only forum that people are struggling with sleep when thats just as important as working out and eating heathy. Daa proven with no sleep issues. Wait until the guinea pigs are done and than you decide. Don't get sucked in to the hype! Also you can check out Anabeta and erase. Awesome stack!
 
joshv155 said:
I get noticeably drowsy 15 minutes after I take it...so I don't think taking it in the morning would be a good thing. I sleep great...it's been the waking up part that has been difficult the past few days.
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i had something similar with the first week or so OP, sleep quality was good, but had trouble getting up early when I needed to and felt a bit groggy upon waking. Once that passed though, it didn't matter if it was 4 or 8 hours of sleep, felt the same and felt refreshed when I woke up. ZMA seems to work well with NMDA too, as I ran them both starting the same time, still had the groggy effect, then it resolved itself after roughly 5-7 days.

And to address one other topic brought up, it does help with deep sleep, but that is a result of some of the hormonal activities taking place due to the stimulation of the NMDA receptor. Testosterone production is increased through agonizing this receptor, much in the way that regular DAA raises testosterone, although a methyl group has to be donated to it by the body to allow interaction with the receptor. Also, it stimulates the release of GH and IGF-1 and 2 (as a result of stimulating hypothalamic-pituitary-gonadal axis), which in turn can help promote gains in lean mass and enhanced recovery (and these levels tend to rise during sleep, so that's why we recommend dosing around bedtime)
 
Well I wasn't sure which Intimidate thread to write in, so I just picked one. I've been on it for 7 days now. I sleep like the dead and can fall asleep in minutes at the end of the day. The first 3 days I had a lot of trouble sleeping and now it's all back to normal deep, restful sleep. No change in my schedule, diet, etc so it was either a coincidence or my body adjusting to it. Only 1 week in, I'm noticing an increase in muscle soreness, the good kind, not the bad and I haven't noted any strength gains yet, but I have to say I only ordered 1 bottle and I'll be ordering another tomorrow to run it for a full 60 days.

Forgive me if it's a silly question, but is there an issue with running it for 90 rather than just 60? I tend to prefer running things for 90 days but if it's best to go for 60 and no more, then that's what I'll do.

Thanks and sorry for the threadjack.
 
Luisciphr1 said:
Well I wasn't sure which Intimidate thread to write in, so I just picked one. I've been on it for 7 days now. I sleep like the dead and can fall asleep in minutes at the end of the day. The first 3 days I had a lot of trouble sleeping and now it's all back to normal deep, restful sleep. No change in my schedule, diet, etc so it was either a coincidence or my body adjusting to it. Only 1 week in, I'm noticing an increase in muscle soreness, the good kind, not the bad and I haven't noted any strength gains yet, but I have to say I only ordered 1 bottle and I'll be ordering another tomorrow to run it for a full 60 days.

Forgive me if it's a silly question, but is there an issue with running it for 90 rather than just 60? I tend to prefer running things for 90 days but if it's best to go for 60 and no more, then that's what I'll do.

Thanks and sorry for the threadjack.
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I dont think there would be any concerns with running it for 90 days, however we did not have any testers go past the 60 day mark. As long as you keep the dosage constant(1/day) you will be good to go.
 
VaughnTrue said:
I dont think there would be any concerns with running it for 90 days, however we did not have any testers go past the 60 day mark. As long as you keep the dosage constant(1/day) you will be good to go.
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Two (more) bottles it is then. Thanks for the quick reply.
 
Just finished bottle #1 of Intimidate. Great gains, but my sleep has been all over the map.

Before Intimidate I had very regular sleep patterns. My pre-sleep stack is Casein, GABA, Alpha GPC, and ZMA.

During this cycle I have had nights where I sleep very hard and deep, others where I get up several times. One night I could only sleep 3 hrs.

I've been toying with the idea of doing bottle #2 with midday doses to see if I can't even out my sleep patterns.
 
Est1969 said:
Just finished bottle #1 of Intimidate. Great gains, but my sleep has been all over the map.

Before Intimidate I had very regular sleep patterns. My pre-sleep stack is Casein, GABA, Alpha GPC, and ZMA.

During this cycle I have had nights where I sleep very hard and deep, others where I get up several times. One night I could only sleep 3 hrs.

I've been toying with the idea of doing bottle #2 with midday doses to see if I can't even out my sleep patterns.
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definitely keep us updated if you do. It looks like a small % of people are noticing the same sleep issues as you, so if it works for you, it will help them out as well!
 
I'm seeing a lot of more people with sleep issues than without. Also taking one product (ZMA) to cover up the faults or side effects of another product doesn't make much sense. Oh this product makes me sleepy, so I'll just have caffeine. Hmm this product gives me the jitters so I'll just have some phenibut....Wait but the phenibut makes me too tired the next day, guess I'll load up on the caffeine again!
 
T-Bone said:
I'm seeing a lot of more people with sleep issues than without. Also taking one product (ZMA) to cover up the faults or side effects of another product doesn't make much sense. Oh this product makes me sleepy, so I'll just have caffeine. Hmm this product gives me the jitters so I'll just have some phenibut....Wait but the phenibut makes me too tired the next day, guess I'll load up on the caffeine again!
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If it sounds to good to be true ..... It usually is. Don't fret.... Vaughn will send you free crap to help you sleep and to help you wake up too. Kinda like a drug dealer. But don't worry every alpha tester sleep like babies and grew like huge monsters from outer space. Yeah man!
 
A lot of the sleep sounds exactly like me with l-dopa. Whacky ass sleep, but got good after some time. Now I really enjoy it.
 
Been taking for almost 2 weeks now. I'm not having as bad of issues with waking up in the mornings anymore. I sleep deep most nights but I still wake up 2-3 times a night, which was also normal for me prior to taking Intimidate. Before taking it there would b times where I had a heck of a time falling back asleep....but that hasnt been the case while taking Intimidate. I go right back to sleep after taking a leak or whatever. I've noticed some strength gains.

When I'm at work (basically work 14 hour days and no time to hit the gym these days) I use my lunch hour to do the p90 program. Have a very limited gym at work and this helps me get my workouts in quick. Anyways, on all my lifts this week I was doing more reps with heavier weights. And on all my body weight exercises I am doing more reps. I started taking Muscle Pharms Creatine at the same time I started taking intimidate.
 
joshv155 said:
Been taking for almost 2 weeks now. I'm not having as bad of issues with waking up in the mornings anymore. I sleep deep most nights but I still wake up 2-3 times a night, which was also normal for me prior to taking Intimidate. Before taking it there would b times where I had a heck of a time falling back asleep....but that hasnt been the case while taking Intimidate. I go right back to sleep after taking a leak or whatever. I've noticed some strength gains.

When I'm at work (basically work 14 hour days and no time to hit the gym these days) I use my lunch hour to do the p90 program. Have a very limited gym at work and this helps me get my workouts in quick. Anyways, on all my lifts this week I was doing more reps with heavier weights. And on all my body weight exercises I am doing more reps. I started taking Muscle Pharms Creatine at the same time I started taking intimidate.
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Well........... If it's my guess your Muscle pharms creatine is doing it's job. Don't know about that other stuff though.
 
If you have problems sleeping, take it first thing in the morning. That's what I had to do and I've had great results. I am not drowsy in the day, and I sleep well at night. I've made measurable gains in 20 days.
 
criticalbench said:
Really? I have not heard anyone else mention that, but interesting!
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For those of us that get zero sleep taking Intimidate at night, I can definitely see the benefit of taking it pre-workout, especially if you work out in the morning. If you can't sleep, you don't grow. Know what I mean?
 
One thing I did want to point out is so far I have not had the increased libido I expected or any other signs that my test levels have increased at all...anyone else NOT had any changes like this ? Starting to really question if this product works...I wasn't expecting huge results but other than sleep issues I'm not sure I'm getting any gains. As was mentioned before I am starting to think it may be the creatine...
 
joshv155 said:
One thing I did want to point out is so far I have not had the increased libido I expected or any other signs that my test levels have increased at all...anyone else NOT had any changes like this ? Starting to really question if this product works...I wasn't expecting huge results but other than sleep issues I'm not sure I'm getting any gains. As was mentioned before I am starting to think it may be the creatine...
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My libido actually tanked initially, but it may have been that I was so damn tired from lack of sleep, that getting laid was the last thing on my mind. Then it returned to it's normal level. Of all the proposed benefits of the product, the ONLY one that worked for me was gaining lean mass while maintaining and eventually dropping my bodyfat level. I have gained 4.3 lbs and lost a couple % of BF in 20 days. I can only attribute it to Intimidate. I've been plateaud so long it is sickening, but now I am gaining at a rate I haven't experienced in over 20 years of continuous weight training.

And trust me, I am more surprised than anyone. I consider about 99% of the supplements being sold today as being snake oil that only benefit people through the placebo effect.
 
As I've stated many many times, I/we do not believe testosterone to be the main mechanism of action here for gains, but rather the IGF-1 release.

A few guys have noted zero libido increase, yet have gained significant size/strength on cycle.


I believe one user is up 4:5lbs in 20 days, while getting leaner, and not having any altered libido.



Check every review. So far I've seen TWO that got "nothing" from intimidate, and one of those 2 is beyond "troll level"



Edit: whoops didn't see the post above mine!
 
VaughnTrue said:
As I've stated many many times, I/we do not believe testosterone to be the main mechanism of action here for gains, but rather the IGF-1 release.

A few guys have noted zero libido increase, yet have gained significant size/strength on cycle.

I believe one user is up 4:5lbs in 20 days, while getting leaner, and not having any altered libido.

Check every review. So far I've seen TWO that got "nothing" from intimidate, and one of those 2 is beyond "troll level"

Edit: whoops didn't see the post above mine!
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Blah, blah, blah! You believe? All the sudden you can't remember. You sound very uncertain about your own product Vaughn. 4 to 5 pounds is a joke and your misleading and very deceptive about this product. Your sliced bread theory wont work with everyone. By the way sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me. How do you drink your Protean with a I force baby bottle??
 
What? I've stated the exact same thing from the start. Notice I haven't responded to you in ~a week or so? It's because your posts have nothing to respond to. You're a troll...ALL u post about is iForce/intimidate. Tbh...it's beyond weird at this point.

You can continue your tirade, but I have nothing else to say to you mission until you come up with ANY solid issues/points.


Have a great day now ;)
 
VaughnTrue said:
What? I've stated the exact same thing from the start. Notice I haven't responded to you in ~a week or so? It's because your posts have nothing to respond to. You're a troll...ALL u post about is iForce/intimidate. Tbh...it's beyond weird at this point.

You can continue your tirade, but I have nothing else to say to you mission until you come up with ANY solid issues/points.

Have a great day now ;)
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Gee, I'm so hurt. When you post REAL facts about intimidate I'll move on. Till then I could care less whether you respond or not:)
 
Mission1 said:
Gee, I'm so hurt. When you post REAL facts about intimidate I'll move on. Till then I could care less whether you respond or not:)
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really starting to seem like your trolling intimidate threads hard bro. just sayin
 
joshv155 said:
One thing I did want to point out is so far I have not had the increased libido I expected or any other signs that my test levels have increased at all...anyone else NOT had any changes like this ? Starting to really question if this product works...I wasn't expecting huge results but other than sleep issues I'm not sure I'm getting any gains. As was mentioned before I am starting to think it may be the creatine...
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Before questioning whether a product works or not.. try evaluating the situation as a whole. Look at your diet training and lifestyle and make appropriate adjustments. These factors need to be altered on a weekly basis to have continued success. Its hard to question the product when so many others have gained so much from it. The challenge is making intimidate work for you.. and you may have to make lifestyle changes to do that.

Also.. it may just not respond with your body. Does not mean the supplement is bad.. just that it isn't for you. I've used a ton of supplements that are praised by all.. but for me it was nothing more than koolaid. I would never question the product.. unless there are a ton of bad consistent reviews and I've changed my diet training and lifestyle first.

Libido is not a good judgement because one can inject 750mg of exogenous testosterone and watch there libido plumit. We all no gear works.. but with out proper training and diet.. its nothing special. Same with supplements. Not saying your diet or training is bad.. you may just need to switch something up because diet training and lifestyle is far more influential on the outcome.. then the product itself whether we are talking protein.. creatine.. test boosters.. steroids.. peptides.. etc.

Mike
 
Jahcuree said:
really starting to seem like your trolling intimidate threads hard bro. just sayin
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He is.. very hard and it's a shame they let them get away with it. It ruins alot for many and bring the board down. When I dislike something.. I just avoid it like I have always done with his posts. On aas forums and more underground forums.. the mods would have posted up his ip address and all personal information. Hell.. last week a guy on a board scammed a member.. they were able to pull up and post in public openly his ip addy.. street addy pics of his house from Google maps.. credit card info.. even his parents address and phone numbers. They threatened him with his social security number which according to the member.. they had it.. luckily he is complied and made right before they posted it..

Hate to see that happen because some times the wrong people get hurt by accident but when I see trolls.. I just wish these boards handled things that way.
 
VaughnTrue said:
What? I've stated the exact same thing from the start. Notice I haven't responded to you in ~a week or so? It's because your posts have nothing to respond to. You're a troll...ALL u post about is iForce/intimidate. Tbh...it's beyond weird at this point.

You can continue your tirade, but I have nothing else to say to you mission until you come up with ANY solid issues/points.

Have a great day now ;)
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Lmao very weird. I'm thinking of sending him an empty intimidate bottle.. box of klenex and tube of lotion. I mean.. he does have an intimidate fetish after all!
 
VaughnTrue said:
What? I've stated the exact same thing from the start. Notice I haven't responded to you in ~a week or so? It's because your posts have nothing to respond to. You're a troll...ALL u post about is iForce/intimidate. Tbh...it's beyond weird at this point.

You can continue your tirade, but I have nothing else to say to you mission until you come up with ANY solid issues/points.

Have a great day now ;)
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Lmao very weird. I'm thinking of sending him an empty intimidate bottle.. box of klenex and tube of lotion. I mean.. he does have an intimidate fetish after all!
 
criticalbench said:
Before questioning whether a product works or not.. try evaluating the situation as a whole. Look at your diet training and lifestyle and make appropriate adjustments. These factors need to be altered on a weekly basis to have continued success. Its hard to question the product when so many others have gained so much from it. The challenge is making intimidate work for you.. and you may have to make lifestyle changes to do that.

Also.. it may just not respond with your body. Does not mean the supplement is bad.. just that it isn't for you. I've used a ton of supplements that are praised by all.. but for me it was nothing more than koolaid. I would never question the product.. unless there are a ton of bad consistent reviews and I've changed my diet training and lifestyle first.

Libido is not a good judgement because one can inject 750mg of exogenous testosterone and watch there libido plumit. We all no gear works.. but with out proper training and diet.. its nothing special. Same with supplements. Not saying your diet or training is bad.. you may just need to switch something up because diet training and lifestyle is far more influential on the outcome.. then the product itself whether we are talking protein.. creatine.. test boosters.. steroids.. peptides.. etc.

Mike
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Anybody who makes personal life style changes in there life would most definitely improve themselves by default which is a great thing . You make a pill and basically state it's a super pill and throw in a few testers who are sponsored tester and look what you get??? The minute your company and reps get a few bad reviews you make excuses why it doesn't work. It's your diet, it's your training, it's this, it's that. Your holy grail was tropinal? Haven't heard damn thing about anymore? No stacking it with intimidate? Great combo? Doubt it. Your gonna sell your bottles no matter what I say... There's a sucker born everyday. This board needs more people to stick up and fight about your products that make claims it can't stand by in my opinion. As long I play by forum rules... I see any issues except you guys crying that Im a troll. Grow up. And Mike I don't need your Kleenex and lube save that for your rep meetings.
 
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