LOG: Athletix+PES Lean Bulk!

day 21 march 21,2012

Supps:
1 erase, 2 titanium, 1d1, 6 prometheus AM
1 d1 4 hours later
1 erase post workout
2 titanium, 1d1 with dinner
1 d1, 1 erase at bed

Exercise: hams, shoulders, arms, abs, cardio

Sleep - 3 am- 2pm good quality after carb up
Mood/Aggression- haha 10/10 see notes for story from gym
Energy- slow start but few minutes into running I woke right up
Mental Focus and Clarity- 9/10
Stress- below avg
Immune System- cold sore healing well, weird eye/headaches.. Will monitor don't think it's supp related at all
Libido- not bad 7/10
Joints- good, no issues
Endurance- great. Long workout but powered thru
Strength- very nice today 10/10
Pump &Vascularity- 11/10 very full, huge veins running through chest into shoulder down thru bis :)
Quality of Training- 10/10
Recovery- too soon finished up at 730.
Notes- so my cArb up/backload wAs successful again..only downside- So much fiber had me in the bathroom 4 times before I could start my workout.. But no bloat or swelling of fat cells is awesome after havkng so much carbs. I attribute this to erase, double dosing slin sane prior to meal, and nutrient partitioning/metabolism from elevated test levels of the whole stack. I know my T is up bc of my leg acne mentioned yesterday. I also know it is up bc I damn near hit a guy who was curling in the mother fcking squat rack. NO CURLING IN THE SQUAT RACK! This guy was curling Thr bar in the rack. I had to use it for my barbell lunges n it was my second to last exercise. I approached him in a friendly manner and asked if he was only doing curls. He looked at me with this pissy ass look and says "uh..yea.." I said "well, I don't mean to be rude but it is a squat rack and there's plenty of places you can curl your 45 pound bar, you're not supposed to curl in the squat rack" he literally just looked at me and then started another set. As he was curlin his little bar I said "that's really inconsiderate, it's something called gym etiquette, but you probably wouldn't know much about that from the looks of you." he stopped, turned around and sized me up. I said "go for it mothefckuer" and then he went back to curling his bar. I proceeded to take my training journal and write in huge caps "no curling in the squat rack" I then walked in front of him as he was doing his set and placed it on the mirror in front of him. I called him a ***** and walked away. If he made a move .. Bad things.

Hope u enjoyed this update! Cardio tomorrow, gonna try and drag the gf, usually a bad idea though, very whiney haha.
 
U give some interesting details and damn u sleep a long time.

Why did u engage in that type of behavior at the gym... smh :lol:
 
AaronJP1 said:
U give some interesting details and damn u sleep a long time.

Lol I'm on spring break so no classes, And I just love to sleep. I'm a night owl so It's just become habit.. When there's things I need to do or worth doing, I'll get up lol but if i don't needto be up, I won't be! Come summer ill drag my ass outta bed and resume the slumber on the beach ;)
 
AaronJP1 said:
U give some interesting details and damn u sleep a long time.

Why did u engage in that type of behavior at the gym... smh :lol:

Lol bc I hate stupid a holes who waste time and space while the real ppl try to workout around their stupidity. Like the 13 year old girl doing machine flies with 10 lbs at 30 reps then sits on it for 5 minutes between sets. GO HOME
 
Lmfao good for u, if u get in there and are curling 185 or more for reps by all means, but the fcking bar what a douche!
 
bean5er said:
Lmfao good for u, if u get in there and are curling 185 or more for reps by all means, but the fcking bar what a douche!

Yea.. If you're curling Olympic size weights I'm not bitching at u lol. But that was just ridiculous.

Another guy came up to me after n said he agreed w me too
 
day 21 march 21,2012

I proceeded to take my training journal and write in huge caps "no curling in the squat rack" I then walked in front of him as he was doing his set and placed it on the mirror in front of him. I called him a ***** and walked away. If he made a move .. Bad things.

Hope u enjoyed this update! Cardio tomorrow, gonna try and drag the gf, usually a bad idea though, very whiney haha.

lol... thats classic
 
Yeah well you better take it from me and enjoy this ****z outa that sleep. It goes away and never comes the f back. Your workouts sound solid and dang it man you should your not on some decca lol.
 
packers6211 said:
Yeah well you better take it from me and enjoy this ****z outa that sleep. It goes away and never comes the f back. Your workouts sound solid and dang it man you should your not on some decca lol.

Lol deca???? Why u say that?
 
Day 22 march 22nd 2012

Supps:
1 erase, 2 titanium, 1d1, 6 prometheus AM
1 d1 4 hours later
1 erase post workout
2 titanium, 1d1 with dinner
1 d1, 1 erase at bed

Exercise: stairmaster, elliptical, treadmill 55minutes 914 cals

Sleep - 130am to 1030 am good quality didbt wanna wake up but had errands to do all day
Mood/Aggression- good. Been meaning to note, been feeling way more social than usual.. Like when I used to be on anti depressants.. Very chatty and friendly.. But still easily pissed off
Energy- good except allergies made cardio tougher than usual
Mental Focus and Clarity- good
Stress- below avg
Immune System- allergies bad today, cold sore continue healing well
Libido- desire is down a bit but was able to perform on command when my gf n I had some unforeseen alone time
Joints- n/a
Endurance- solid
Strength- n/a no lift
Pump &Vascularity- really pleased here.. Muscle fullness around the clock, veins, definition in arms increasing daily
Quality of Training- great
Recovery- back is super sore from deads yesterday. Made 5 pound increases on my 7,5,3 rep maxes. Shooting for 5lbs accross the board every week.. Worked well last time I used that format, saw about 30lbs increase in all rep maxes over 5 weeks

Notes- very pleased with today. having a hard time NOT checking the mirror multiple times a day bc progress is so great and rapid now. I know if it wasn't for the daa, I'd be pretty shredded.. Water is really killing my lower belly. I have noticed some increased nipple puffiness, NOT gyno. Despite carb backloading, weight continues to stay low.. Actually down about 2-2.5 lb since start of log, however feeling SO much fuller and bigger it's crazy. Even my barber tonight said damn Dude u got bigger huh? I was like yea finally. Prometheus will be done on Tuesday the 27th and will finish off on the 30th with erase taper and titanium / d1 full dose til end of log. Loving the results in this 3rd week, pleasantly surprised.
Edit: also worth noting.. Extreme thermo effects after meals today.. Very warm right now as well at start of carb backload meal.
 
Had to snap some pics bc the vascularity is ridiculous for 945 at night on an OFF day.



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The unflexed one I did do first .. These may not impressive many but for 157 lb.. And for me who's arms are usually deflated and sometimes embarrassing.. This is big for me. Notably the vein running from chest down shoulder and bi. And forearms veins.

I will post full body pics on Sunday for week 3 update .. Will also have gf snap shots of my back. Then will do so again for final review and will dig up starting pics and post together. I am pleased with results so far and you can and WILL see the difference from day 1.

much thanks to athletix for supplying half of this incredible stack.
 
Awsome job. What do you think it's from?
 
chedapalooza said:
What what? The vascularity or thermo?

Both! & I'm curious about that around the clock fullness
 
AaronJP1 said:
Both! & I'm curious about that around the clock fullness

Well honestly. This week I started my carb backloading... I think that might be it bc it wasn't like this the first 19 or so days.. This week I've really been eating well and more frequently.. Hence the thermo effects too.. I'll type out my eating sched a little later on.. Watching The NCAA tourney right now ;)
 
Ok basically:

It starts on a Sunday- no training, about 2 meals during the day low carb high protein and fat, Sunday night around 9-10 I'll hAve a very carb heavy meal eaten over about an hour, slowly consisting of about 100-150g of carbs (double dose gda 30 mins prior)

Monday I wake up and go right to gym for fasted training (hiit cRdio and lifting) I have one big post workout meal ala lean gains/ IF then 2 hours later a little snack/protein shake- all food is low or no carb, high protein abd fat.

I wake up super lighter and bigger the next day and do faster Low intensity cardio, no lifting. I'll have one or two small low carb meals then again that night I'll have the big Carb meal. Just repeat the pattern day by day.

Sunday- carb up, no training
Monday- cardio/lift/low carb
Tuesday- cRdio/carb up
Wed- cardio/lift/low carb
Thurs-cardio/carb up
Fri-cRdio/lift/low carb
Sat- no to low carb, no training
Repeat.

I can't do this at school bc my schedule doesn't let me go to the gym right when I wake up and I hate waking up feeling full on lift days.. Not bloated but just very lunky from the carbs so I need to work that feeling off right away.
 
Woah huge jump in scale today following last nights carb up.. 163 right now. Don't LOOK too different, little deflated in the arms and delts actually.. very strange. I'm sure weight tomorrow will be back down to 160. And this wraps up my carb backloading week for the log since I gong back to school this weekend .. Prob do it couple times before June comes then it's one cheat meal a week and low carbs til I don't even know when lol, October/November. Anyway, yea.. Scale up quite a bit.. Off to the gym
 
chedapalooza said:
Woah huge jump in scale today following last nights carb up.. 163 right now. Don't LOOK too different, little deflated in the arms and delts actually.. very strange. I'm sure weight tomorrow will be back down to 160. And this wraps up my carb backloading week for the log since I gong back to school this weekend .. Prob do it couple times before June comes then it's one cheat meal a week and low carbs til I don't even know when lol, October/November. Anyway, yea.. Scale up quite a bit.. Off to the gym

Getting heavy!
 
AaronJP1 said:
Getting heavy!

Lol not really.. This time last year I was ~170-175.. I never gained my winter weight this year due to vacation prep for cruise Xmas day to new years day= no Christmas cookies !! Lol I also have really learned what supps to use and avoid over the past year and a half so my weight can be managed much more effectively.

As forthe lack of muscle fullness I states earlier- I take it back. Popped all my 'morning' supps at 3 pm lol and it's 4 now and feeling very pumped and full of energy.. On way to gym to earn my two days off this weekend! Switching to fst7 routine for final week of log. It's simple and effective I will post it up next week when I do it bc it's short and simple not like what I'm doing now
 
Ok basically:


Sunday- carb up, no training
Monday- cardio/lift/low carb
Tuesday- cRdio/carb up
Wed- cardio/lift/low carb
Thurs-cardio/carb up
Fri-cRdio/lift/low carb
Sat- no to low carb, no training
Repeat.


Definitely going to give this a try.. do you know approx what the cals are on low carb and carb up days?
 
wasme said:
Definitely going to give this a try.. do you know approx what the cals are on low carb and carb up days?

Nice. Please let me know how it works out for you... The cardio on Tuesday's and Thursdays has to burn 7-900 cals otherwise you will gain excess fat.. I wouldn't dare eat the way i do in this format without that cardio... Then when cutting.. Keep the cardio but eliminate the Tuesday and thursday carb ups so u deplete throughout the week, carbing up on just Sunday.

As for cals.. I honestly do not count. I did that years ago and it ended up becoming too much of a rigid obsession.. I am just really instinctive now. I Would be purely guestimating, but on carb up days id say the carb up meal is 150-200g carbs (ablut 50 from fiber) 80-100g fat (from nuts/natty pb) and 70-100g protein from milk, nuts, Protein mix, tiny bit of lean meat..

I am a true fat kid so I use these meals to indulge/binge on my favorites like cereal (all natural like kashi) natty pb, and NON PROCESSED nut and berry mixes from natural food stores.

The low carb days is probably 15-1800 cals max, plus lifting and cardio.. So the muscle building is really done on off days with the big eating.. It is a weird method but it works for me.. I can handle huge servings of food at a time. If I counted the cals in my cRb up meal I would probably never do it again haha
 
Yesterday

Day 23 Friday march 23,2012

Supps:
1 erase, 2 titanium, 1d1, 6 prometheus AM
1 d1 4 hours later
1 erase, 2 titanium, 1d1 with dinner
1 d1 at bed

Exercise: full body, abs, hiit cardio

Sleep - 2 am to 2 pm. Gf showed up at my house at 11 to nap with me.. She slept, I didn't, annoying.
Mood/Aggression- blah
Energy- slow start again picked up once I got on the treadmill
Mental Focus and Clarity- good
Stress- fine until night time, big fight with gf, shocking. Fcking tired if this siht
Immune System- n/a
Libido- lower
Joints- n/a
Endurance- solid
Strength- good 9/10
Pump &Vascularity- decent.. Less fullness dk why 8/10
Quality of Training- 9/10
Recovery- no soreness yet :/
Notes- workout was very easy for some reason.. Finished pretty quick n didbt feel the usual beat up feeling I like following a workout but I know the workout was effective.. Maybe endurance and recovery is increasing a lot?? Scale is steady at 163 which is whatever bc I look the same/fuller than it was at 157 or 160.. Not sure where the 3-6 pounds went.. But it's not in any bad spots so not complaining.. Never been one to fixate on scale number.. Mirror is ok so I'm ok.. Finishing up with fst7 training next week.. Next week is gonna be busy so some cardio might be cut, but I'll be at school eating cleaner thab home so it shouldn't cause any fat accum. Decided to extend 3 erase to wed. Which is the day after I finish Prometheus.then I will taper 2,2,1 before ending the log. I'm gonna hVe to buy another bottle erase for June so I might as well use all of the one I have now. I want to stay at 3 erase through the end of Prometheus to help with the water retention.

Official 3 week weigh in and pics tomorrow. Might be out drinking tonight (st paddys got me back in the swing and realizing how much fun ive been missing.. Plus gf pissed me off so I'm gonna give her a taste of her own medicine tonight) women- can't live with em, can't kill em.
 
Nice. Please let me know how it works out for you... The cardio on Tuesday's and Thursdays has to burn 7-900 cals otherwise you will gain excess fat.. I wouldn't dare eat the way i do in this format without that cardio... Then when cutting.. Keep the cardio but eliminate the Tuesday and thursday carb ups so u deplete throughout the week, carbing up on just Sunday. .........


Thanks for all that... very helpful..
 
wasme said:
Thanks for all that... very helpful..

Any time.. Took lot if trial and error on my part over the ast 5 years to figure my body out. So hopefully you can use at least the template to figure yours out best!
 
Week 3 pics and weigh in

163lbs- guess the carb back loading added up over the course of the week.. But I don't look fatter or heavier/softer.. Dont feel bloated either so not sure where this weight is!



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If I were cutting I would not be pleased with these results.. I would also be lifting differenty and using different support supps like a diuretic and an additional fat burner, as well as NO DAA (causing bloat)this would eliminate the water retention in chest and stomach. But for the way I have been eating (carbs almost every day) and doing less cardio and less overall volume/intensity, this stack is legit for giving you the necessary tools to build quality muscle OR recomp, depending on diet and training!

Definite huge difference from start of log



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I thought I was the only 1 that got bloat from DAA...

Good progress man!
 
AaronJP1 said:
I thought I was the only 1 that got bloat from DAA...

Good progress man!

No way.. It increases test so much that estrogen related water ret. Is baaadd... That pic from the start of log is daa minus erase= holy water hell

Thank you. I'll only be on daa for this Monday n Tuesday before my bottle is out.. By Friday / Sunday for final pics I should be a lot drier!
 
Nice pics update brother. You look like a UFC fighter! Keep up the hard work. Yeah Erase is wicked good.
 
lol Heck nah man I'd kill to have your bf % Once you add some weight your gonna be a freak!!
 
packers6211 said:
lol Heck nah man I'd kill to have your bf % Once you add some weight your gonna be a freak!!

Dude thats the problem.. I'm terrified oif adding weight bc it's mostly fat.. I have never been over 165-170 with anything close to abs.. And my chest grows But nothing else does lol. I have to be small to be semi cut.. I have to bs like 150-145 for legit flat stomach! N I can't diet down to that again.. It sucks.
 
chedapalooza said:
Dude thats the problem.. I'm terrified oif adding weight bc it's mostly fat.. I have never been over 165-170 with anything close to abs.. And my chest grows But nothing else does lol. I have to be small to be semi cut.. I have to bs like 150-145 for legit flat stomach! N I can't diet down to that again.. It sucks.

Even with a good diet? Chicken, rice, quinoa, eggs, avocados, veggies? I've put on 10 lbs in 4-5 momths just with following alot of the macros people have described in here, and eating the healthy stuff in larger quantities. Of course it did more expensive, which may not be feasible for a college student. I know I ate like **** in college, but more out of ignorance than anything else. Keep up the good work tho man lookin great!
 
Heck yeah it's so expensive to eat lean and hearty at the same time. Bro I'm the opposite. I can gain by just looking at weights, but cutting is an every day battle.
 
sae2110 said:
Even with a good diet? Chicken, rice, quinoa, eggs, avocados, veggies? I've put on 10 lbs in 4-5 momths just with following alot of the macros people have described in here, and eating the healthy stuff in larger quantities. Of course it did more expensive, which may not be feasible for a college student. I know I ate like **** in college, but more out of ignorance than anything else. Keep up the good work tho man lookin great!

Yea all I eat is quality. Nothing processed, fried, fast food, nothing.. My body Is just awful at partitioning.. I really don't know
 
chedapalooza said:
Yea all I eat is quality. Nothing processed, fried, fast food, nothing.. My body Is just awful at partitioning.. I really don't know

What do u eat daily?
 
AaronJP1 said:
What do u eat daily?

Everyday at school is basically the same..

Lg/IF protocol

Pre workout-one scoop recoverpro 2-3pm
Post workout - one scoop recover pro 5-6pm
Dinner ~7pm- usually consists of 2 grilled chicken Breasts, a lean turkey burger no bun, a big salad with tuna or chicken salad on top, lots of veggies, maybe a low carb wrap if im feeling flat/weak and usually some sort of fat source like a little portion of cheese on the burger/chicken washed down with a scoop of BIG BLEND protein
Snack ~9-930 is Greek yogurt plain non fat and another scoop protein

If inhad to estimate I'd say it's 75%protein 10%cRbs (fruits/veggies) 15%fat

I really stick to this year round.. I rarely consume starchy cRbs unless a cheat day or in the dead of winter when not worried about adding little extra bf

The dinner is quite big and is easily 1500-1800 cals.. I do not count or measure anything anymore, I don't want to live like that.. It's a choice, not an ignorance thing. That is Monday-thurs... Then weekends is usually about the same with Sunday being a cheat/carb day I really don't sway much from my food choices.. I know what I like and what works with my body.. The anorexia really screwed up my metabolism and ability to partition nutrients properly.. I used to be a very broad, muscular, wide frame, big bones, taller.. I shrunk legit an inch and a half .. And my frame condensed.. I really did annumber on myself.
 
Update for 3/26 day 26

Workout was awesome. Did fst7 style for chest back and calves plus abs and cRdio. Had a carb up last night before heading back to school today. I am craving carbs now which is not good! Once it gets closer to summer i can turn thst off no problem, but it's pretty strong now and honestly not affecting bf like I thought it would/used to. Hopefully i can get away with bigher cRbs for the next month or so to add some quality mass before really shifting to cutting and getting ripped for summer.

Havin issues copying and pasting usual format right now so sorry about that. Nothing super interesting to report today besides as I mentioned, the fst7 was awesome. This week is the last week and is gonna be super busy for mr. I will still update daily. But maybe not as super detailed. But final review will be top notch.

Tomorrow is last day of prometheus.
 
chedapalooza said:
Everyday at school is basically the same..

Lg/IF protocol

Pre workout-one scoop recoverpro 2-3pm
Post workout - one scoop recover pro 5-6pm
Dinner ~7pm- usually consists of 2 grilled chicken Breasts, a lean turkey burger no bun, a big salad with tuna or chicken salad on top, lots of veggies, maybe a low carb wrap if im feeling flat/weak and usually some sort of fat source like a little portion of cheese on the burger/chicken washed down with a scoop of BIG BLEND protein
Snack ~9-930 is Greek yogurt plain non fat and another scoop protein

If inhad to estimate I'd say it's 75%protein 10%cRbs (fruits/veggies) 15%fat

I really stick to this year round.. I rarely consume starchy cRbs unless a cheat day or in the dead of winter when not worried about adding little extra bf

The dinner is quite big and is easily 1500-1800 cals.. I do not count or measure anything anymore, I don't want to live like that.. It's a choice, not an ignorance thing. That is Monday-thurs... Then weekends is usually about the same with Sunday being a cheat/carb day I really don't sway much from my food choices.. I know what I like and what works with my body.. The anorexia really screwed up my metabolism and ability to partition nutrients properly.. I used to be a very broad, muscular, wide frame, big bones, taller.. I shrunk legit an inch and a half .. And my frame condensed.. I really did annumber on myself.

That sucks; you eat right and still doesn't work for ya. But hey its not fun without a challenge, and if it was tooo easy it wouldnt be worth the effort at the end! Keep up the good work
 
sae2110 said:
That sucks; you eat right and still doesn't work for ya. But hey its not fun without a challenge, and if it was tooo easy it wouldnt be worth the effort at the end! Keep up the good work

Yepp! Thanks
 
Update: fst7 is no joke! Y'all gotta try it. Soo sore and the workout was so simple and fun bc it wasn't all intricate and long! Very awesome routine.. I think It would be good for u Aaron.

Super sore.. gonna get in and do arms and forearms with no cArdio today then go tutor a student for 50/hr.. Not bad eh? Lol
 
chedapalooza said:
Update: fst7 is no joke! Y'all gotta try it. Soo sore and the workout was so simple and fun bc it wasn't all intricate and long! Very awesome routine.. I think It would be good for u Aaron.

Super sore.. gonna get in and do arms and forearms with no cArdio today then go tutor a student for 50/hr.. Not bad eh? Lol

I heard of it, never paid attention to it. Going to research it now...
 
AaronJP1 said:
I heard of it, never paid attention to it. Going to research it now...

Yeaa I'm so sore. The strength and pump aspect is huge you get both in this workout and it's so simple and doesnt feel like it drags on like some routines can.. It's really a back to basics routine but helps induce growth and vascularity with the 'sevens'
 
chedapalooza said:
Yeaa I'm so sore. The strength and pump aspect is huge you get both in this workout and it's so simple and doesnt feel like it drags on like some routines can.. It's really a back to basics routine but helps induce growth and vascularity with the 'sevens'

Explain it to me?

From what I read all it was was 7 sets of 8-12 reps of an isolation exercise at the end of a work out??
 
AaronJP1 said:
Explain it to me?

From what I read all it was was 7 sets of 8-12 reps of an isolation exercise at the end of a work out??

Well basically yes. It's so simple but so effective.. It really emphasizes the order of exercises abd exercise selection.. Here's my workout from yesterday

Sumo deads 5x5- I added these
Neutral pullups 3xmax
Db pullovers 4x8-12
Bb rows3x8-12
Incline db rows3x8-12
Wide grip pulldowns 7x8-15

Inc db presses 4x8-12
Inc db fly-3x8-12
Flat db press-3x8-12
Single arm cable crosses7x8-15

I also did upright rows and facepulls at 3x8-12 bc I'm not hitting shoulders til thurs.

Plus calves n abs.. I am si sore n pumped n full and rather than having to do 8 different movements or some crazy scheme .. It was simple and actually like relaxing bc it was so easy to do. 1 minute rest between sets, 30 seconds between 7's..
 
chedapalooza said:
Well basically yes. It's so simple but so effective.. It really emphasizes the order of exercises abd exercise selection.. Here's my workout from yesterday

Sumo deads 5x5- I added these
Neutral pullups 3xmax
Db pullovers 4x8-12
Bb rows3x8-12
Incline db rows3x8-12
Wide grip pulldowns 7x8-15

Inc db presses 4x8-12
Inc db fly-3x8-12
Flat db press-3x8-12
Single arm cable crosses7x8-15

I also did upright rows and facepulls at 3x8-12 bc I'm not hitting shoulders til thurs.

Plus calves n abs.. I am si sore n pumped n full and rather than having to do 8 different movements or some crazy scheme .. It was simple and actually like relaxing bc it was so easy to do. 1 minute rest between sets, 30 seconds between 7's..

Yeah I may incorporate it...

Do u eat deli meat?
Boars Head roasted chicken buy 1 pound for a tad less than $10... That's about 100g of lean protein & get the low sodium kind. :)
2oz is 13g of protein so eating a pound which is 16oz would give u 100g for the day...
Nice thing I found that's helping me get my protein in.
 
AaronJP1 said:
Yeah I may incorporate it...

Do u eat deli meat?
Boars Head roasted chicken buy 1 pound for a tad less than $10... That's about 100g of lean protein & get the low sodium kind. :)
2oz is 13g of protein so eating a pound which is 16oz would give u 100g for the day...
Nice thing I found that's helping me get my protein in.

Hell yea I do.. But only the good stuff.. Which would be what you just mentioned.. Gonna hit the store and get some more low carb wraps and DELI MEATS!
 
chedapalooza said:
Hell yea I do.. But only the good stuff.. Which would be what you just mentioned.. Gonna hit the store and get some more low carb wraps and DELI MEATS!

I just str8 eat the meat... So lean though u have to eat a ton of other stuff to reach your claoric intake...
 
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