Creatine nitrate + agmatine + ala

Craigmatthew

Craigmatthew

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Just wanted to give a quick review after 10 days of use.

Pumps: insane, really could not ask for a better pump really. Dose these products with some carbohydrates pre workout and the pump is crazy good.

Muscle fullness: very good. Muscles seem fuller for longer after workouts and also even on off days.

Strength: pretty happy in this aspect as well. Throwing up some good numbers and certainly the increase in muscle fullness and pump seems to leads to increased motivation in me.

Vascularity: this is where the stack really shines. Insane, have not used a stack before that promoted vascularity like this.

Price: again, really good. Primaforce agmatine, aps Creatine nitrate and a budget brand ala. doesn't break the bank and works like a dream.

Also as a side note body composition is also improving each day, surprisingly fast, almost as if the stack is drying me out. Might be a reduction in carb bloat?

Just wanted to share what seems to be a cheap effective stack thus far.
 
Dosages: 500mg agmatine x 3 times per day.

100mg ala with each dose of agmatine.

Aps Creatine nitrate 4 capsules pre and 4 post.
 
Sub'd. How does creatine nitrate compare to ethyl ester?
 
You should try this stack with SMS agmatine or AI sports agmatine. I get crazy pumps from them and no added pump from primaforce brand
 
uknowme62 said:
Sub'd. Would be great if you had a bf% and then 30 days another.
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Not a bad idea really. Thing is I know more of less where I started (10 days ago around 10%) and already I can see there has been a reduction in bf%. I dont have exact number but this is without doubt.

I'd say after the 30days I'd be happy if I have increased 2-3lbs while losing 1-2%bf. That would be exactly what I'm after. I'm an ectomorph so really losing bf isn't the hard part for me, the hard part is gaining LBM at the same time.
 
Craigmatthew said:
MUCH better. Creatine Nitrate always gives me good pumps and pretty good strength gains. I HIGHLY recommend it.
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Thanks. I will give it a go!
 
Treated myself today and did arms.
Pump was unreal. Triceps were about as pumped as they get. I'm talking close to mdrol pumps.

Muscle fullness is still up and I continue to lean out nicely.

Still really happy with this stack.
Looking forward to trying hemavol ad sns agmatine really soon.
 
Finished my first tub of Primaforce Agmatine.
Best aspects I can report on is muscle fullness. Pretty impressed with the product in this regard. Pumps were pretty decent and when combined with Creatine Nitrate the pumps are a solid 8/10. Felt like for me it took about a week to really start to notice the muscle pumps and increased fullness. I would recommend people give this a fair go and use it more than a few workouts before dismissing this.

SNS Agmatine has just arrived, so I plan to run that for a month or so now and review that at the end of the 4 week and ultimately review/compare and contrast Primaforce Agmatine and SNS Agmatine.
 
Craigmatthew said:
MUCH better. Creatine Nitrate always gives me good pumps and pretty good strength gains. I HIGHLY recommend it.
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How come no one else is selling a staright CN product?
 
Dont think so. I see it in some other prop blends but that's it
 
Yeah not sure. Heard rumours that APS creatine nitrate was no longer to be made, but I can get it here easily enough?? Love the stuff and would hate to see it go. Pumps are as good as C-Bol and about $20 cheaper for me.
 
Todays menu:

2xSNS Agmatine pills with breakfast
3xSNS Agmatine + 4 Creatine Nitrate pills pre workout.

Massive massive full pump.
It's strange, using agmatine my muscles always looks/feel full, but seems like agmatine also helps achieve really good pumps.
Along with the nitrate it's pretty much all you can ask for pump wise.

Had someone ask me yesterday if I'm on cycle as I'm looking lean but full, so somethings working I guess.

Body Comp wise also VERY happy with this stack. As mentioned I am looking full, but body fat has certainly decreased leading me to believe this recomp is going perfectly. I would say if the next 4 weeks continue as the last 2-3 have then I'll be at my goal bf% of 7-8 easy. I'd say in the last 3 weeks I've already dropped 1-2% body fat and possibly increased in LBM as well. This is the sort of fat loss and recomp I'm used to seeing with EPi.
 
Slightly modifying my stack now with a few higher quality ingredients:

SNS Agmatine + R+ALA + LCLT + GPLC + ALCAR. I'm hoping these will continue to aid in my recomp as well as some nice general health benefits. Agmatine and GPLC also both lend themselves to great pumps as well I am lead to believe.
 
Finally added Hemavol to my stack, the final ingredient.
This is turning into a pretty massive stack:


Hemavol (1scoop PRE) + SNS Agmatine (2AM + 2PM) + ALCAR (2g) + LCLT (2g) + GPLC (4.5g pre) + R+ALA (3x per day with meals).
 
Day Two:

Pump: Again, pretty good, more of a full feeling. It was back day and it did feel like my posterior delts were more pumped than usual. Similar pump though from what 4 caps SNS Agmatine provides. Not bad but still hoping for more. This is using just one scoop 1.5 hours after eating. Might have to pump it to 1.5 scoops pre and see how I go.

Endurance: Again very good, and might throw craze back into the mix to further heighten this.
 
Day Two:

Pump: Again, pretty good, more of a full feeling. It was back day and it did feel like my posterior delts were more pumped than usual. Similar pump though from what 4 caps SNS Agmatine provides. Not bad but still hoping for more. This is using just one scoop 1.5 hours after eating. Might have to pump it to 1.5 scoops pre and see how I go.

Endurance: Again very good, and might throw craze back into the mix to further heighten this.
 
Day Three:
Only difference with todays stack was I included a scoop of craze.

Pump: Pretty damn good. I'd say about as good as taking 4 SNS agmatine, so I have yet to see the added benefit of adding Hemavol to the mix. Muscle fullness is still nice though. Doing preacher curls was pretty painful I must admit due to the pump. I;d give it a solid 8/10 today.

Endurance: Huge, could go forever, Hemavol + Craze is endurance heaven, I could still be there now training.

Had 3 people in the gym in the last week or so ask if I'm "on it." Pretty funny and they didn't believe me when I told them I was clean and what I was taking. Seemed like they almost wanted me to say I was on gear to make them feel better about the way they look. These are the type of guys though who do chest, back, shoulders, arms then repeat.... no legs ever. So no wonder.
 
I've heard nothing but great things about stacking craze with hemavol. How are you dosing the Hemavol?

Check out the first post in this thread it really helps you get the most out of hemavol

http://anabolicminds.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3183046
 
StackedCop said:
I've heard nothing but great things about stacking craze with hemavol. How are you dosing the Hemavol?

Check out the first post in this thread it really helps you get the most out of hemavol

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Dosing the Hemavol with my Craze about 20 min pre workout (1 scoop of each).
 
Day Four:
Went for 2 scoops Hemavol this time.

Pump: Again pretty impressive. Did shoulders and abs. Shoulders always get a pretty nice pump in me and again I'd give the pump 8/10. Muscle fullness and vascularity is also still good. Really looking forward to doing a cheeky 2 scoops tomorrow and hitting chest, which I suspect will blow up nicely.

Endurance: Fantastic again, can't emphasise this more, hemavol + craze + Alcar = hours in the gym. (+good music).
 
Rest Day:

So today I will just dose my SNS Agmatine + R-ALA and with my various forms of L-carnitine.
Plan to try eat a fair bit, but keep it clean and recover for tomorrows second leg session of the week.

Feeling quite sore in a few areas today so a rest day will be enjoyed.
So far really enjoying the stack, and the recomp is going pretty well.

Things the stack can boast about so far?

1) Endurance
2) Muscle Fullness
3) Reasonable strength while continuing to lean out.
 
Yeah the r-ala has really helped in combination with agmatine in my recomp. Amazing stuff. Craze + Hemavol = focus and pumps. Pretty happy so far.

My craze is about to finish to really tempted to give maximize intense a good. Maybe get a few tubs ;)
 
Craigmatthew said:
Yeah the r-ala has really helped in combination with agmatine in my recomp. Amazing stuff. Craze + Hemavol = focus and pumps. Pretty happy so far.

My craze is about to finish to really tempted to give maximize intense a good. Maybe get a few tubs ;)
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You won't be disappointed that's for sure :)
 
Day Six:
Chest and Abs

Pump: Really again just noticed really good muscle fullness during the workout. Really wasn't in the best mood working out wise today and it effected me for the first few sets. Just had to remind myself why I was there and play some good tunes.

Endurance: Endurance was not quite as good today as usual. Mostly from me feeling like I was going a little hypoglycemic. I took a little too much agmatine with my Hemavol + R-Ala and did feel a little faint after the workout and just lacked endurance.

Overall still happy with the stack. Great muscle fullness while at the same time looking pretty lean now.
 
I had about 80 g low gi before training and thought that would have been plenty. Also didn't want to have more to try get a bit more from Hemavol.
 
Craigmatthew said:
I had about 80 g low gi before training and thought that would have been plenty. Also didn't want to have more to try get a bit more from Hemavol.
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Try taking the SNS agmatine caps 20 mins before you eat then take your hemavol 30 mins or so before you start your workout.
 
StackedCop said:
Try taking the SNS agmatine caps 20 mins before you eat then take your hemavol 30 mins or so before you start your workout.
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Will try that tomorrow. I think the main difference is I trained this morning where usually I train at night and have a few extra meals under my belt.
 
Day Seven:
Legs

Pump: Took two scoops of Hemavol today and no Agmatine with it. MASSIVE quad pumps today, again muscle fullness was WAY up but also the pumps were pretty gnarly. Really enjoyed them in a sick way, keeps me so much more motivated to see them blow up.

Endurance:Was Pretty good today, and really I do have to drag myself to leave every time on this stack.
 
Craigmatthew said:
Day Seven:
Legs

Pump: Took two scoops of Hemavol today and no Agmatine with it. MASSIVE quad pumps today, again muscle fullness was WAY up but also the pumps were pretty gnarly. Really enjoyed them in a sick way, keeps me so much more motivated to see them blow up.

Endurance:Was Pretty good today, and really I do have to drag myself to leave every time on this stack.
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2 scoops hemavol on leg day is intense! I know what you mean about the pump motivating you. I feel the same way!
 
Good music and a good pump is all I need. Keeps me in the zone. Loving my training right now. I'm just wondering if Australian customs will let maximize intense in due to the 1,3.
 
Craigmatthew said:
Good music and a good pump is all I need. Keeps me in the zone. Loving my training right now. I'm just wondering if Australian customs will let maximize intense in due to the 1,3.
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The next run of Maximize intense will be 1,3 free and stronger. Should have no problem getting that in :)
 
Apparently the current version should get in. Might order two tubs and another Hemavol and stock up for the winter.
 
Day Eight:
Back


Pump: As per usual with this stack, really nice muscle fullness and the pump was pretty damn good. Forearms and biceps were exploding doing back and actually quite painful. Looked cool though them all swollen!


Endurance:Again good, ended up doing an extra back exercise as I felt like I hadn't done enough.
 
Craigmatthew said:
Day Two:

Pump: Again, pretty good, more of a full feeling. It was back day and it did feel like my posterior delts were more pumped than usual. Similar pump though from what 4 caps SNS Agmatine provides. Not bad but still hoping for more. This is using just one scoop 1.5 hours after eating. Might have to pump it to 1.5 scoops pre and see how I go.

Endurance: Again very good, and might throw craze back into the mix to further heighten this.
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If using craze, drop ALCAR...too many antioxidants
 
Craigmatthew said:
Good music and a good pump is all I need. Keeps me in the zone. Loving my training right now. I'm just wondering if Australian customs will let maximize intense in due to the 1,3.
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It's good to go
 
Day nine:
Rest Day.

Feeling a little run down and very busy with work do decided to take a rest day. I find having a mid-week rest quite beneficial as I come back very determined.

Still do impressed with this stack as far as recomping. I continue to lose body fat and looking full at the same time. Really a great spring/summer stack.

The top 4 of my abs are now visible including the centre line which I haven't seen in years. Not at this weight anyway.

Good times.
 
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