yeah something like that....its hard to find all of a sudden....i was ordering something else, and I saw the store/guy was advertising he has things he can't list so "ask"....I asked and he did have P-stanz but wasn't advertising it, I think I saw his listing on ebay and they are strict I suppose with what you can sell. but I picked some up since I figure now it will be the next thing you can no longer get. for some reason these PH companies create this stuff that people like, then stop making them....makes no sense unless they are figuring to keep a step ahead of the government and they keep changing up their products to keep them legal and on the shelves? not sure, its not a good business model to make something successful then stop making it for no good reason. stupid.