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PES Y U NO TELL ME ABOUT ANABETA ELITE??!

MidwestBeast said:
Pull harder ;)

But be careful if you try to pull bdcc's leg; it's very smooth and you might lose grip :lol:
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Advice taken. Thanks for sharing your experience! :D
 
Natty is literally the busiest man alive. I judge this solely by our email conversations so either he is busy or he has started to dislike me.
 
bdcc said:
Natty is literally the busiest man alive. I judge this solely by our email conversations so either he is busy or he has started to dislike me.
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I hope the latter is not the case...:)
 
bdcc said:
Natty is literally the busiest man alive. I judge this solely by our email conversations so either he is busy or he has started to dislike me.
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He has been talking with stxnas and is feeling a little more anti-international, himself.

He told me you got really egotistical ever since you became famous

;)
 
stankyleg said:
I don't know if I can handle an improved version. My nuts got huge on this stuff. Monkey brains was the name I gave them. Maybe the new version could come with a coupon for 20 dollars off of a wheel barrow so I'll have something to carry my balls in.
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This alone can sell me on Anabeta, rofl! I'm rolling bro with what you said!
 
bdcc said:
Natty is literally the busiest man alive. I judge this solely by our email conversations so either he is busy or he has started to dislike me.
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It's not that he doesn't like you... it's that he doesn't understand your high tea emails. he has to forward them all to me, I translate, then send back. That takes time! :D
 
DAdams91982 said:
It's not that he doesn't like you... it's that he doesn't understand your high tea emails. he has to forward them all to me, I translate, then send back. That takes time! :D
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Sometimes I'm cc'ed too, but just for the lulz
 
daft205 said:
It's a dhea metabolite- 7-b-hydroxy dhea is its other name. I believe it's also one of the actives that 7-oxo converts too.
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So how does this compare to erase, what are it's supposed effects and is a post cycle needed? Perhaps 4-8 weeks of ab elite followed by 4-8 weeks erase ? Or could they be used together?
 
chedapalooza said:
So how does this compare to erase, what are it's supposed effects and is a post cycle needed? Perhaps 4-8 weeks of ab elite followed by 4-8 weeks erase ? Or could they be used together?
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Not like erase at all. The 7oh is most know for its ability to significantly reduce cortisol and glucocorticoid levels while increasing resting metabolic rates. The other ingredients are the active from the original anabeta, and forskolin- which is thought to elevate cAMP. Not really sure how this formula is going to be a "potent mass" builder when two of the three ingredients are common to fat/weight loss products.
 
daft205 said:
Not like erase at all. The 7oh is most know for its ability to significantly reduce cortisol and glucocorticoid levels while increasing resting metabolic rates. The other ingredients are the active from the original anabeta, and forskolin- which is thought to elevate cAMP. Not really sure how this formula is going to be a "potent mass" builder when two of the three ingredients are common to fat/weight loss products.
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Thjats right up my alley.. I'm not sure how to utilize this stuff though ... With erase, without, cycling / stack suggestions. Hopefully some PES reps can shed some light on how to use this stuff?
 
daft205 said:
It's a dhea metabolite- 7-b-hydroxy dhea is its other name. I believe it's also one of the actives that 7-oxo converts too.
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I thought it was an 800 number.
 
daft205 said:
Not like erase at all. The 7oh is most know for its ability to significantly reduce cortisol and glucocorticoid levels while increasing resting metabolic rates. The other ingredients are the active from the original anabeta, and forskolin- which is thought to elevate cAMP. Not really sure how this formula is going to be a "potent mass" builder when two of the three ingredients are common to fat/weight loss products.
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Cortisol is catabolic, as im sure you are aware. We put it in the formula because excess cortisol levels are known to increase protein breakdown and reduce protein synthesis. Using 7oh increases the ratio of muscle protein synthesis to protein breakdown, and thus allows us to achieve a greater anabolic state.

Forskolin increases cAMP levels which activates protein kinase A, an enzyme thats shown to have androgen receptor effects independent of an androgen. cAMP is also a signal for steroidogenesis in the testes, which results in increased testosterone production.
 
chedapalooza said:
Thjats right up my alley.. I'm not sure how to utilize this stuff though ... With erase, without, cycling / stack suggestions. Hopefully some PES reps can shed some light on how to use this stuff?
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Anabeta Elite is meant to be used mainly as a stand alone purely anabolic compound. It can be used during PCT to maintain any gains made on cycle, and the addition of forskolin will help enhance testosterone production in the post cycle period.

Erase can be stacked since the cortisol inhibiting effects of it and 7oh are competitive. I would use Erase if i wanted to keep everything leaner/drier vs Anabeta Elite alone.
 
So would u say something like 4-8 weeks elite stand alone followed by 4-8 weeks erase.

No other t boosting support would be needed with elite? Perhaps endosurge or some natty t booster?
 
Endosurge is fine to stack with it, although if you are estrogen sensitive I would recommend erase as Forksolin will increase aromataze enzyme activation.
 
chedapalooza said:
So would u say something like 4-8 weeks elite stand alone followed by 4-8 weeks erase.

No other t boosting support would be needed with elite? Perhaps endosurge or some natty t booster?
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i plan on giving AB Elite a run for the money. totally stand alone. i was was pretty damn satisfied with the original, but never did it completely stand alone. the closest i came was running it 2 weeks solo then adding in a few other goodies - namely erase.
 
andrew732 said:
Endosurge is fine to stack with it, although if you are estrogen sensitive I would recommend erase as Forksolin will increase aromataze enzyme activation.
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Yea. I'm verrery sensitive. I've been using prometheus rising -daa+forskolin n agmatine n r ala. 2 weeks I was ok, then 3 n 4 nasty estrogen sides.. Just started erase 2 days ago n water retention is way down.

I will def use elite stand alone but have erase on hand. I'm assuming erase pro would be ok as well?
 
Damn picking this up for sure. Will there be in intro deal like before? I sitll havent signed up for the insider mailing list do I do that from the PES website?
 
bdcc said:
Shh, you haven't heard this yet!
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U made me waste my money?
 
Profile Looks good, I wonder how much anacyclus pyrethrum extract is in every 2 pills as ironically this reminds me of a Anabeta and Driven Sports Lean Xtreme put together. Would it be better to do Anabeta + Lean Xtreme or Anabeta Elite when it comes to content of the main ingredient and amounts of 7-OH and Coleous Forkskolii.


Anabeta: 1600mg anacyclus pyrethrum in 2 pills, 3200mg total at 4 caps a day for 30 day run.


Lean Xtreme: Per Cap: 395mg blend of
Green Tea Extract (50% EGCG), Coleus Forskohlii (40% Forskolin), Phosphatidylserine 45%, 5-AT (5-Etioallocholen-3b,7b,17b-tiol), 7OH (3b,7b-dihydroxy-5-Etioallocholen-17-one)


This means you get 1185mg a day given 3 caps a day for a 30 day run. Both combined is 4385mg/day total combo of Anabeta and Lean Xtreme.


Anabeta Elite:
1625mg per 2 cap: Anacyclus pyrethrum D.C. (root) Extract 95% Forskolin (Standardized from Coleus forskohlii)5-Androsten-3B7B-diol-17-one

Puts us at 3250mg total blend per day.

My thoughts: Anabeta Elite has a higher extract of Forskolin which is great and excludes 5-AT, this looks like a great recomp product when tied up with Erase and Erase Pro or by itself! Great Job PES!



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Ando55 said:
Profile Looks good, I wonder how much anacyclus pyrethrum extract is in every 2 pills as ironically this reminds me of a Anabeta and Driven Sports Lean Xtreme put together. Would it be better to do Anabeta + Lean Xtreme or Anabeta Elite when it comes to content of the main ingredient and amounts of 7-OH and Coleous Forkskolii.

Anabeta: 1600mg anacyclus pyrethrum in 2 pills, 3200mg total at 4 caps a day for 30 day run.

Lean Xtreme: Per Cap: 395mg blend of
Green Tea Extract (50% EGCG), Coleus Forskohlii (40% Forskolin), Phosphatidylserine 45%, 5-AT (5-Etioallocholen-3b,7b,17b-tiol), 7OH (3b,7b-dihydroxy-5-Etioallocholen-17-one)

This means you get 1185mg a day given 3 caps a day for a 30 day run. Both combined is 4385mg/day total combo of Anabeta and Lean Xtreme.

Anabeta Elite:
1625mg per 2 cap: Anacyclus pyrethrum D.C. (root) Extract 95% Forskolin (Standardized from Coleus forskohlii)5-Androsten-3B7B-diol-17-one

Puts us at 3250mg total blend per day.

My thoughts: Anabeta Elite has a higher extract of Forskolin which is great and excludes 5-AT, this looks like a great recomp product when tied up with Erase and Erase Pro or by itself! Great Job PES!
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So elite could be safely run with erase or pro without lowering cortisol or estrogen dangerously? How about 4 weeks elite followed by 8 weeks pro?
 
chedapalooza said:
So elite could be safely run with erase or pro without lowering cortisol or estrogen dangerously? How about 4 weeks elite followed by 8 weeks pro?
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I would say you can run with Erase/Erase Pro since 7-OH is known mostly for lowering cortisol and not aromatase, as Andrew732 stated and yourself mentioned, keep the Estrogen down via Erase/Erase Pro due to Forskohlii raising the enzyme up. 4 weeks elite + Erase/Erase Pro and then 4 weeks Erase/ Erase Pro alone perhaps sounds good.
 
Ando55 said:
I would say you can run with Erase/Erase Pro since 7-OH is known mostly for lowering cortisol and not aromatase, as Andrew732 stated and yourself mentioned, keep the Estrogen down via Erase/Erase Pro due to Forskohlii raising the enzyme up. 4 weeks elite + Erase/Erase Pro and then 4 weeks Erase/ Erase Pro alone perhaps sounds good.
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yea that was my next thought. Nice. Super excited
 
chedapalooza said:
Yea. I'm verrery sensitive. I've been using prometheus rising -daa+forskolin n agmatine n r ala. 2 weeks I was ok, then 3 n 4 nasty estrogen sides.. Just started erase 2 days ago n water retention is way down.

I will def use elite stand alone but have erase on hand. I'm assuming erase pro would be ok as well?
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Yes Erase Pro is fine. Erase pro is just a plus lol
 
Forskolin increases testosterone. Anything that increases testosterone will create a small amount, since E is created from T. If anyone is worried about it they can simply use Erase.

Anabete Elite will be great stand alone, just a matter of time before the logs start popping up.
 
daft205 said:
Not like erase at all. The 7oh is most know for its ability to significantly reduce cortisol and glucocorticoid levels while increasing resting metabolic rates. The other ingredients are the active from the original anabeta, and forskolin- which is thought to elevate cAMP. Not really sure how this formula is going to be a "potent mass" builder when two of the three ingredients are common to fat/weight loss products.
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actually forskoklin can increase resting metabolic rate AND add LBM in even untrained individuals... really is an AWESOME supplement, totally happy with these additions myself.

Should make for one lean mean Anabeta!
 
kevinhy said:
Anabeta Elite is meant to be used mainly as a stand alone purely anabolic compound. It can be used during PCT to maintain any gains made on cycle, and the addition of forskolin will help enhance testosterone production in the post cycle period.

Erase can be stacked since the cortisol inhibiting effects of it and 7oh are competitive. I would use Erase if i wanted to keep everything leaner/drier vs Anabeta Elite alone.
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I actually think the 7oh will play out GREAT in PCT... Drive, also contains forskolin(also icariin though) and Ive used it in many PCT's with GREAT success.

Will this be out in the next 4 weeks?

I already have 3 bottles of Anabeta sitting here that I was planning on using in my upcoming PCT but this could def be utilized and subbed in for one of the others if its here in time....


Also... the original Anabeta actives... since its proprietary, can we at least be informed if its in the same, FULL dose as previously provided? or should/could we supplement with standard AB to make for a bit more of this ingredient?
 
Sourdough said:
I actually think the 7oh will play out GREAT in PCT... Drive, also contains forskolin(also icariin though) and Ive used it in many PCT's with GREAT success.

Will this be out in the next 4 weeks?

I already have 3 bottles of Anabeta sitting here that I was planning on using in my upcoming PCT but this could def be utilized and subbed in for one of the others if its here in time....


Also... the original Anabeta actives... since its proprietary, can we at least be informed if its in the same, FULL dose as previously provided? or should/could we supplement with standard AB to make for a bit more of this ingredient?
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Anabeta Elite will be all you need, no point stacking the two.
 
kevinhy said:
Anabeta Elite will be all you need, no point stacking the two.
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I think he just meant swapping out one of the originals with the Elite to replace it standalone for PCT (just what I got from reading it).

I, too, would be curious to know if the amount of active from original Anabeta will be the same in Elite; if it's possible to disclose.
 
MidwestBeast said:
I think he just meant swapping out one of the originals with the Elite to replace it standalone for PCT (just what I got from reading it).

I, too, would be curious to know if the amount of active from original Anabeta will be the same in Elite; if it's possible to disclose.
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Ancient Chinese Secret.
 
Urban Monk said:
What could one expect from running Elite and Pro concurrently for 8 weeks?
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Strength & Muscle gains with hardening, leaning, and drying of the physique.
 
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