pulsing d-bol W/8 week Andromass cycle

alpinecoach

alpinecoach

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Question for you vets, I have an 8 week Andomass cycle planned and I am considering pulsing d-bol at 20mg EOD for 3 days a week for 4 weeks total. In other words, on heavy lifting days only. The whole idea is to ease the shutdown a bit and minimize the sides from the d-bol.

According to PP, their mass is equal" to 400mg of Test per week, so I was thinking this might be a good opportunity to use some d-bol I have sitting around.

FYI, I am 44 with current free test of 300, so I am hoping to see some good results from this cycle, or its TRT for me, just trying to put off the TRT as long as possible.

And yes, my diet and workout are in check!!

What do you think?
 
With proper liver support (for the dbol) and a solid PCT at the end it *should* work well. I have nothing to back that up other than instinct though.

ManBeast
 
Manbeast,

Thanks for your input, exactly what I was thinking. I will be using PP's liver juice during and PP's TRS stack with Temoxifen at 20/20/10/10 for PCT, should do the trick.

Funny that people have been so quiet on this, I would have expected a ton of input, if nothing else, I would have expected the PP reps to chime in...
 
Sounds solid man, please run a log for us :)

ManBeast
 
it's true 20mg Dbol pulse would be 70mg a week, and for some people that's a daily dose. Nothing wrong with a low dose but depending on what you expect from it, 20mg will probably be a disappointment.

Also stack something with the nolva for the PCT, just my observation that while it's a good PCT component, I think it's kinda weak as a stand alone.
 
How will u dose the AndroMass?
Is it v2 or 3
 
What would you suggest running with the Nolva? I will be running the PP TRS stack, are you suggesting another SERM? or a OTC product

UnrealMachine said:
it's true 20mg Dbol pulse would be 70mg a week, and for some people that's a daily dose. Nothing wrong with a low dose but depending on what you expect from it, 20mg will probably be a disappointment.

Also stack something with the nolva for the PCT, just my observation that while it's a good PCT component, I think it's kinda weak as a stand alone.
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alpinecoach said:
I will consider this. The goal is to minimize sides from the d-bol, hence the pulsing. Any thought on doubling the dose in relationship to sides?
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Have you ran dbol before? What dose gave you sufficient gains? As far as PCT you are set imo no need to add anything.
 
If you are pulsing dbol the best time is right before and after the workout, in the morning is preferable, don't space the dose out all day, all before and after, at least this is how I would do it
 
TRS stack + nolva is a good PCT. I used that once. Worked well.

I agree with Jaydollars, the idea of pulsing is to spike blood levels around your workout time, preferably in the morning, to minimize levels present the that night / next morning (when your HPTA recovers and the next morning is when the most natural test is released)
 
Thanks for all the input guys, I am now thinking 30 - 40mg in the AM right before my workouts. this should be fun with some decent gains. Any thoughts how how long? I was thinking 4 weeks, but maybe a little longer might be in order due to pulsing, thoughts?

UnrealMachine said:
TRS stack + nolva is a good PCT. I used that once. Worked well.

I agree with Jaydollars, the idea of pulsing is to spike blood levels around your workout time, preferably in the morning, to minimize levels present the that night / next morning (when your HPTA recovers and the next morning is when the most natural test is released)
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Well, I kicked this off a couple weeks ago, and things feel like they are going well. I am taking 6 AM V3 daily, and 40mg of dbol M/W/F. I just started my 3rd week, and I REALY notice the strength gains kicking in this week. As far as sides are concerned, I have none, with the exception of feeling a little euphoric. BP has not been efected as of yet, and no noticable estro sides. I will keep checking in to let you all know how its going.

Quick question regarding AI's. I have Erase on hand just in case I start to feel any noticable estro sides from the dbol, but was considering using PP's Sustain Alpha on the off days to prevent any possible estro sides from appearing, as well as aiding in natural recovery on the off days t/th/sat. PP's Sustain Alpha has resveritrol in it as an AI. Can you guys tell me how strong the PP product is as an AI? I do not want to kill ALL estro, just control the elevation as a result of the dbol.
 
It should help with any minimal estro sides, best to start it now if that's your goal. It mitigates estrogen as opposed to suppressing it, and should help in terms of recovery. would love to hear your feedback from it if you decide to use it.
 
Ryansm,

Would you suggest using daily, or just EOD on the off days? I think I am going to try this and see how things go, with pulsing the dbol, this may be all thats required to keep the Estro at bay. If not, I can always use the Erase I have on hand.
 
I have decided to add formastanzol to my cycle to help regulate any estro sides as well as keeping the HPGA primed and ready to go. I have never used this product before, I would appreciate any input anyone has on this product as well as thoughts on the addition.

I recently received some feedback on another board that I would like to share, and get feedback on any voliditiy to this statement:

"Bro your running DHEA with dbol.
Yeah your gonna get estro sides.
chrysin,erase,OTC ai's wonthelp.Get some adex from GWP.
Also nolva might kill your labido in pct. Might switch to clomid IMO
Dont ues an AI otc or otherwise in pct it will supress estrogen too much.
So when pct is over estro will rebound big time.aka delayed or rebound gyno"

Keep in mind that the dbol is pulsed at 40mg EOD.

Thoughts
 
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