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How are the Ultradrol Gains/Results

houstontexas said:
That makes a lot of sense bro. Thanks for explaining it. How much lean mass is achievable on a clean bulk possibly? 8-12lbs of quality muscle?
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Sadly there is no way of really knowing for sure exactly how much actual muscle gain you can achieve is there? Ultimately you will have to just try it and see. In the end it will all depend on whether or not you are happy with the physical results, not how much weight you put on the scales. I saw a big difference in jonny783 during his UD experience, and I would venture to say that if done correctly you would probably have similar results. I would also venture to say you would be pleasantly surprised with the results, just don't go into it expecting 20lbs of clean solid muscle gain.
 
I gained 26 lbs in six weeks on dbol test and deca (cycle was longer just stating the first six) after I dropped dbol at week 4 I lost about 3 lbs so that left me at 23 which I account around 6lbe of water(bloat) 5lbs fat and about ten lbs muscle maybe eleven as I didn't look to fat- but do you realize how much muscle that is? It took me about 3 months to put on 10lbs of MUSCLE natty
 
And I disagree SuperDrol is a very potent bulker when used correctly- on a 4 week run at 20mgs I'm aiming to acquire 15 lbs and about 8 of muscle (I'm on trt so test base is in there)
 
schwellington said:
And I disagree SuperDrol is a very potent bulker when used correctly- on a 4 week run at 20mgs I'm aiming to acquire 15 lbs and about 8 of muscle (I'm on trt so test base is in there)
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Well the test base makes a big difference so you aren't really comparing apples and apples. I never said SD was weak, I just stated that it wasn't a "huge mass gainer" when used alone.
 
Jethro52185 said:
Well the test base makes a big difference so you aren't really comparing apples and apples. I never said SD was weak, I just stated that it wasn't a "huge mass gainer" when used alone.
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Still 10 pounds of muscle is definitely achieveable from SD, just ask around.
 
I'm on 150mgs of test cyp a week I'm not going to run it higher than that. Which puts my test levels 600-900 I believe so there aren't many differences.
 
Ehh I take that back your right it isn't apple to apples as SuperDrol suppressed endogenous testosterone
 
Dr.Stri8ed said:
Still 10 pounds of muscle is definitely achieveable from SD, just ask around.
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I didn't really mean to side track the thread on whether or not Superdrol was good or not. If you like it, and gain on it, then how could it be bad? Keep taking it, and keep gaining, that's my opinion. I'm not knocking it, it's just not for me. Whether or not you gain 10lbs on it or not is really a moot point isn't it?
 
Jethro52185 said:
I didn't really mean to side track the thread on whether or not Superdrol was good or not. If you like it, and gain on it, then how could it be bad? Keep taking it, and keep gaining, that's my opinion. I'm not knocking it, it's just not for me. Whether or not you gain 10lbs on it or not is really a moot point isn't it?
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I'm just saying that for the majority of ppl, SD provides some pretty solid gains.
 
Jethro52185 said:
And so does UD. Just didn't want anyone to have false hopes.
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Yeah of course. I still have yet to try UD myself, I know its comparable to SD but idk what dose I will need to see similar gains. Its going to take more than one run for me to assess that, but luckily its not as harsh which is good.
 
Jethro, I was disappointed in the results from M1T that I brought back from the UK. Not what I expected, got just as good a result from M1, 4add, ok not just as good but very close. I am in high stress environment which may have hurt my gains. You made as good point in an earlier post.
 
Dr.Stri8ed said:
Yeah of course. I still have yet to try UD myself, I know its comparable to SD but idk what dose I will need to see similar gains. Its going to take more than one run for me to assess that, but luckily its not as harsh which is good.
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So it's well known that UD is less harsh when weighed against a comparable dose of SD ? Or is that on a mg to mg comparison? Thanks.
 
GetBent said:
Jethro, I was disappointed in the results from M1T that I brought back from the UK. Not what I expected, got just as good a result from M1, 4add, ok not just as good but very close. I am in high stress environment which may have hurt my gains. You made as good point in an earlier post.
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Then most likely it wasn't actually M1T. Or it was bunk because results from M1T are generally quick and dramatic.
 
houstontexas said:
So it's well known that UD is less harsh when weighed against a comparable dose of SD ? Or is that on a mg to mg comparison? Thanks.
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With a comparable dose yes it is less harsh. 30 mg of SD is very harsh versus 12 mg of UD which is less harsh, which is 3 caps of each. I do wonder how 20-24 mg of UD would treat u though.
 
Bigchourico said:
I'm aiming to find out!:cheers:
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Somebody needs to try it out at a higher dose. If it wasn't $50 for 90 pills, I'd definitely have run it even higher than 12 mg. At this dose my sides were very minimal, so I'd say you'd be fine stepping it up to 20-24 mg. And naturally, there will be more stress on your liver with a higher dose, and you're not gonna get "double the gains." But there's definitely some pioneering to do with UD. I've read the methylstenbolone compound is more powerful than SD. The anabolic/androgenic ratio for Superdrol is supposed to be 400/20 and the ratio for Ultradrol is 660/124. Anyway, the proof of effectiveness is gonna be in the success stories. Some before and after blood work at 20 mg/day would be awesome too. :)
 
Jonny784 said:
Somebody needs to try it out at a higher dose. If it wasn't $50 for 90 pills, I'd definitely have run it even higher than 12 mg. At this dose my sides were very minimal, so I'd say you'd be fine stepping it up to 20-24 mg. And naturally, there will be more stress on your liver with a higher dose, and you're not gonna get "double the gains." But there's definitely some pioneering to do with UD. I've read the methylstenbolone compound is more powerful than SD. The anabolic/androgenic ratio for Superdrol is supposed to be 400/20 and the ratio for Ultradrol is 660/124. Anyway, the proof is in the success stories. Some before and after blood work at 20 mg/day would be awesome too. :)
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Yes I agree. I wouldn't mind paying 85 bucks for 2 bottles to give it a go. I'm doing a prop cycle the end of february with a low dose of SD, but I think I'll just substitute it with UD.
 
Jonny784 said:
Somebody needs to try it out at a higher dose. If it wasn't $50 for 90 pills, I'd definitely have run it even higher than 12 mg. At this dose my sides were very minimal, so I'd say you'd be fine stepping it up to 20-24 mg. And naturally, there will be more stress on your liver with a higher dose, and you're not gonna get "double the gains." But there's definitely some pioneering to do with UD. I've read the methylstenbolone compound is more powerful than SD. The anabolic/androgenic ratio for Superdrol is supposed to be 400/20 and the ratio for Ultradrol is 660/124. Anyway, the proof of effectiveness is gonna be in the success stories. Some before and after blood work at 20 mg/day would be awesome too. :)
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There's always a cut off point to the benefit of raising your dose, the old cost to benefit ratio. But i don't think we've reached that point yet. I think there still is going to be some benefit without that much cost(side effects) to raising the dose higher than 12-16mgs.:bigok: Imho
 
Bigchourico said:
There's always a cut off point to the benefit of raising your dose, the old cost to benefit ratio. But i don't think we've reached that point yet. I think there still is going to be some benefit without that much cost(side effects) to raising the dose higher than 12-16mgs.:bigok: Imho
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I feel the same way. We're just going to have to experiment with it.
 
I love superdrol but it would be nice to take something with similar gains that dosen't make me feel like i want to sleep all day. I get serious lethargy on Superdrol.
 
Bigchourico said:
I take it you're bulking?
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Yeah I'm bulking. I love SD too but the sides suck if I go to 20 mg or 30 which I'll never do again lol. If I keep it to 10 mg, its great and I get no sides and lethargy, I get serious lethargy on it too. So I'm gonna do a 10 week prop cycle with SD at 10 mg for the last 6 weeks of the cycle.
 
15-20 mgs of sd treats me good!

My next cycle
Weeks 1-10 test cyp 200mg/wk
Weeks 1-4 SuperDrol 15mgs/wk
Weeks 3-9 epi 50mgs day
Weeks 6-10 trenazone 2mls a day

Gunna recomp
 
Jethro52185 said:
I wasn't aware UD or SD were considered "huge mass gainers". For first cycles I would say they are great, but they are hardly huge mass gainers.
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what planet are you from???

most guys gain 10-20lbs on SD, thats NOT on their first cycles!
 
Jethro52185 said:
I wasn't aware UD or SD were considered "huge mass gainers". For first cycles I would say they are great, but they are hardly huge mass gainers.
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huh, dont know what sd you've been using. after reading your post, you seem like you have experience using steroids, but dont seem to know much about them, which would to me, be the reason your results have been less than optimal.

this doesn't mean you may not be big, ripped, and strong, but there are lots of big, ripped, strong meat heads who have zero idea what they are doing.

this is my opinion. and im sure many other would agree.
 
Sourdough said:
what planet are you from???

most guys gain 10-20lbs on SD, thats NOT on their first cycles!
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Ok ok, jeez forget I even made the comment. I didn't mean to step on anyone's toes. I'm not saying you can't gain 20 lbs. I could gain 20lbs on sugar pills, but it's not going to be 20lbs worth of muscle.
 
Jethro52185 said:
Ok ok, jeez forget I even made the comment. I didn't mean to step on anyone's toes. I'm not saying you can't gain 20 lbs. I could gain 20lbs on sugar pills, but it's not going to be 20lbs worth of muscle.
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What exactly gives you 20 pounds of pure 100% muscle?? And don't say Test because some of those 20 pounds will be water.
 
bro.... wasnt trying to be mean or anything... just completely contrary to what everyone knows of superdrol... its every bit a mass builder as dbol or anadrol...

Sure nothing is ever going to be PURE muscle, but youll get the same thing regardless if its test, Dbol, Nandralone OR superdrol....


So thats why your getting so much conflicting feedback to your personal views...
 
vidapreta said:
Jethro52185 said:
I didn't mean to step on anyone's toes. /QUOTE]


You're not stepping on anyone's toes, you just seem like you don't have a clue what you're talking about.



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What gave you the impression I have no idea what I'm talking about? All I'm saying is that by stating that you put on 20 lbs in a cycle really is a poor judge of how much muscle you actually put on. I've put on 33 lbs on my current cycle, but To be completely honest, if I had to guess it would seem as though 15lbs of it was muscle. Now I may be off in my estimations, but the point remains, just saying you put on 20 lbs doesn't really give anyone a good idea exactly what changes in musculature were undergone during the cycle. I'm sure people gain great on SD, I'm not saying its weak, but it's not the best bulking cycle by any means, and that's what I was referring to when I quoted "huge mass gainers". But that discussion is for another thread.
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SD is as big of a mass gainer as anadrol or dbol, and if u ran SD with test too I'm sure u could put on 30 pounds. Regardless no one is gonna cycle without test,we're not saying SD is better than any of these.
 
Jethro you're just jello of my mad gains brah. I know your mirin that I put on so much in only a month brah. I'm catching up to your hench ass slowly but surely motha fuka. Get some!

Lol just kidding. (he's my turdhead bro in real life so i can say that) But yea sounds like we've devolved to arguing over semantics here. too much damn hormones floating around to see straight. Yea I see what you're saying about only a percentage of weight gains being muscle. I like to forget that sometimes. Significant gains can be made with the orals, no ones arguing that. We're just bantering over the relative size of "significant" And a large portion of those gains, just like any aas, is water, fat, and glycogen. That pretty much sums up what we were all trying to say yea?

Ok so anyway anyone else run UD before?
Anyone run both UD and SD and can compare the difference in cycles?
 
Jonny784 said:
Jethro you're just jello of my mad gains brah. I know your mirin that I put on so much in only a month brah. I'm catching up to your hench ass slowly but surely motha fuka. Get some!

Lol just kidding. (he's my turdhead bro in real life so i can say that) But yea sounds like we've devolved to arguing over semantics here. too much damn hormones floating around to see straight. Yea I see what you're saying about only a percentage of weight gains being muscle. I like to forget that sometimes. Significant gains can be made with the orals, no ones arguing that. We're just bantering over the relative size of "significant" And a large portion of those gains, just like any aas, is water, fat, and glycogen. That pretty much sums up what we were all trying to say yea?

Ok so anyway anyone else run UD before?
Anyone run both UD and SD and can compare the difference in cycles?
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Like you even care about UD or SD anymore anyway! Nice of you to come in here and calm things down though.
 
Jethro52185 said:
Like you even care about UD or SD anymore anyway! Nice of you to come in here and calm things down though.
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Yea sry brah I missed the fun. I was busy on Craigslist trying to find a local personal servant for hire. You see I'm just too damn swole to wipe my own ass these days. Damn Ultradrol got me good. Lol.

But yea srsly I was just thinking, kick starting a cycle of tren and test with some UD could be even more beasta.
 
Jonny784 said:
Yea sry brah I missed the fun. I was busy on Craigslist trying to find a local personal servant for hire. You see I'm just too damn swole to wipe my own ass these days. Damn Ultradrol got me good. Lol.

But yea srsly I was just thinking, kick starting a cycle of tren and test with some UD could be even more beasta.
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Kick starting tren? The half life is 3 days. What's the point? I mean don't get me wrong, I'm down to try. Let's order a bottle and split it next go round.
 
Could be referring to tren e
 
schwellington said:
Could be referring to tren e
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Well let's just say tren a for example, with a short half life and fast onset, combined with a test base.
Would there be a benefit of stacking an oral, such as UD or SD or Dbol, for the first 4 weeks of such a cycle along with the tren and test? Or are you just as good with having a stronger dose of tren and test alone?
 
Jonny784 said:
Well let's just say tren a for example, with a short half life and fast onset, combined with a test base.
Would there be a benefit of stacking an oral, such as UD or SD or Dbol, for the first 4 weeks of such a cycle along with the tren and test? Or are you just as good with having a stronger dose of tren and test alone?
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Your good with the test and tren alone. Remember tren binds much stronger to the AR then test, that sh*t is aggressive. If it was tren e then i'd try it but if its tren ace then there'd b no point, or maybe u could throw it on the end of the cycle if u stopped tren with like 6 weeks left.
 
Jonny784 said:
Well let's just say tren a for example, with a short half life and fast onset, combined with a test base.
Would there be a benefit of stacking an oral, such as UD or SD or Dbol, for the first 4 weeks of such a cycle along with the tren and test? Or are you just as good with having a stronger dose of tren and test alone?
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It's like when i get the quarter pounder meal with fries, coke and 2 of those chix wraps....With all this food should i still get the 2 apple pies for a dollar???:thinking::rofl:
 
Dr.Stri8ed said:
Your good with the test and tren alone. Remember tren binds much stronger to the AR then test, that sh*t is aggressive. If it was tren e then i'd try it but if its tren ace then there'd b no point, or maybe u could throw it on the end of the cycle if u stopped tren with like 6 weeks left.
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Alright thanks Dr.Stri8ed. That's what I had assumed, but wanted to verify.

Bigchourico said:
It's like when i get the quarter pounder meal with fries, coke and 2 of those chix wraps....With all this food should i still get the 2 apple pies for a dollar???:thinking::rofl:
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Rofl! Haha good sh1t.
 
Bigchourico said:
It's like when i get the quarter pounder meal with fries, coke and 2 of those chix wraps....With all this food should i still get the 2 apple pies for a dollar???:thinking::rofl:
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Fock yeah, dirty bulk baby!!!
 
Been on Ultradrol for a week and 6 days...already gained 5lbs. Things I've experienced are extreme back pumps like said above, backne, awesome pumps in the gym and already telling a difference in strength/muscular endurance. One thing I have noticed is that I'm going into an intense sleep with a ton of dreams and my body won't let me sleep longer than 8 hrs. My buddy whos taking it with me says the same thing. Another huge thing is idk if its the ultradrol or what but I had gyno previously and letro got it out of my right nip but my left one still had about an almond size behind it, nothing you could see with my shirt off but since I've been on the cycle, I swear my gyno keeps decreasing and is honestly cut in half. And no I am not giving anyone bs
 
STFUANDTRAIN said:
Been on Ultradrol for a week and 6 days...already gained 5lbs. Things I've experienced are extreme back pumps like said above, backne, awesome pumps in the gym and already telling a difference in strength/muscular endurance. One thing I have noticed is that I'm going into an intense sleep with a ton of dreams and my body won't let me sleep longer than 8 hrs. My buddy whos taking it with me says the same thing. Another huge thing is idk if its the ultradrol or what but I had gyno previously and letro got it out of my right nip but my left one still had about an almond size behind it, nothing you could see with my shirt off but since I've been on the cycle, I swear my gyno keeps decreasing and is honestly cut in half. And no I am not giving anyone bs
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Hmm. Are you losing fat? Could just have been some extra fat depo there. Just in case it is decreasing gyno I'd keep some letro or arima on hand to assure there is no rebound post ultra drol. Other than that thanks for the update! Looking to run this, maybe stacked with tren..
 
What dosage are you planning on running the ultradrol? I have a few bottles myself.. I'm a big guy 6'5" 240 lbs. So I want to dose high. Just not sure how I should do it. I am also going to stack with trenazone
 
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