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Transaderm and AndroHard v3...AI necessary?

bpclipper10

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I am thinking of running the Transaderm at recommended dose and a bottle of AndroHard v3 at 4 pills/day for 6 weeks. With the anti-estrogenic effects of the AH...would I need an AI?

I planned on running Erase with the Transaderm but now that i'm throwing in the AH, i didn't know if it was needed?

Any help from reps or people with experience would be appreciated. Thanks!
 
I too have about 45 servings of Transderm and a full bottle of erase. I might run Anabeta and Transderm then finish with DAA and Anabeta! Not sure how I'm gonna run it to be exact
 
Thanks for getting back to me. Good to have some assistance bout the AI, thanks!

And I am also running DAA currently and will be starting the transaderm/AH run after this for the winter.
 
Androhard will act as an AI and a SERM - it has the ability stop androgens from converting to estrogens and stops estrogens from interacting with estrogen receptors.
 
I agree that you shouldn't need an AI, and also I agree on using the DAA for PCT
 
RickRock13 said:
I agree that you shouldn't need an AI, and also I agree on using the DAA for PCT
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Plus transderm probably doesn't need an AI anyway... it converts well to androgens as compared to estrogens. Androhard itself is already 5-alpha reduced so it can't turn into estrogen. :)
 
Yeah, I agree with Rodja. I have talked to guys who consider AndroHard PCT safe, but it is suppressive, although not profoundly. I would not recommend anything that can be suppressive during PCT.
 
DGA3 said:
So . . . . . could it be used for PCT?
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Although I've seen atleast one guy do this, and a few others including myself use Androhard as a bridge, I don't think it's a good PCT product. It is a hormone, after all.
 
Thanks for the feedback. Would love to have logged it but started the trans this week a bit earlier than expected because winter plans are getting changed with a surprise vacation recently tossed at me ;) not complaining!!

And being that I missed the black Friday sale I don't have the cash flow at the moment o be dropping $130 on that bad boy as tempted as I am. Holidays are crushing my supplement game lol. But I am running the transaderm at 5 pumps/day with ai's cycle support.

I will however have that cash in bout 6 weeks and was wondering what you guys thought of using AndroLean after PCT for 4 week run to cut up just before season starts? I would obviously take time off but I'm seriously considering this as a viable option instead of a simple fat burner run?

Thanks for all the feedback guys!
 
BigBlackGuy said:
Although I've seen atleast one guy do this, and a few others including myself use Androhard as a bridge, I don't think it's a good PCT product. It is a hormone, after all.
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Would it be an effective bridge to Androbulk?

I've got some AH on the way, and have ordered AB, which will come out next month.

Good combo, or take some PCT downtime inbetween?
 
what type of gains would be seen off of 1bottle of AH vs. a 2bottle run? i'm very interested in AH as a safe alternative for me.
 
Bravoboy said:
what type of gains would be seen off of 1bottle of AH vs. a 2bottle run? i'm very interested in AH as a safe alternative for me.
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This is what we're saying on the main page:
  • 2-8lbs in lean mass
  • 10-15% increase in strength
  • Reduced gynocomastia
  • Increased aggression
However, you also have to note that you'll be losing body fat at the same time, so 2-8 lb gain will be much more significant if you're also losing 2-8 lbs. of fat.
 
ryansm said:
I find it more suitable for athletes as well, great strength gains, quicker recovery, CNS stimulation, and keeps fat off while eating a surplus in cals.
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It's very well-suited for athletes that compete in weight restricted sports.
 
So I take it that androhard is like taking masteron? Only thing that sucks are the sides, most men hate their prostate swollen and losing hair.... great for gyno that is for sure. As far as the anrdrolean, what substance is that similar too in the steroid world? sounds like AH and AL might make a helluva lean mass lose fat cycle together.
 
WARBIRDWS6 said:
So I take it that androhard is like taking masteron? Only thing that sucks are the sides, most men hate their prostate swollen and losing hair.... great for gyno that is for sure. As far as the anrdrolean, what substance is that similar too in the steroid world? sounds like AH and AL might make a helluva lean mass lose fat cycle together.
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From what I understand, the Andro products have very few (if any) sides.

Reps can chime in, of course . . .
 
HereToStudy said:
If one is concerned with prostate issues (or has a history), this product comes highly recommended: Invalid Link Removed
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Definitely some saw palmetto extract like that product there for the prostate, probably some nizoral shampoo and/or some topical spiro if you are paranoid about your hair (and quite frankly when using a DHT product who isn't??).
 
WARBIRDWS6 said:
Definitely some saw palmetto extract like that product there for the prostate, probably some nizoral shampoo and/or some topical spiro if you are paranoid about your hair (and quite frankly when using a DHT product who isn't??).
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I'm not worried abut losing any hair.
 
Rodja said:
Nope, full, thick head of hair. There's no genetic predisposition to hair loss on either side of my family.
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I hear you.... same here. I do have a big forehead though, but it was like that from the get go lol. I figure better safe than sorry, it's cheap enough to use a special shampoo and/or topical during (and for a short while after) a DHT cycle.
 
WARBIRDWS6 said:
I hear you.... same here. I do have a big forehead though, but it was like that from the get go lol. I figure better safe than sorry, it's cheap enough to use a special shampoo and/or topical during (and for a short while after) a DHT cycle.
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IMO, the hair loss/DHT hysteria is a tad overblown. There are so many positive effects from DHT, especially for strength athletes.
 
Rodja said:
IMO, the hair loss/DHT hysteria is a tad overblown. There are so many positive effects from DHT, especially for strength athletes.
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I actually think DHT has an affinity to the prostate, seems to like that part of the body....in a bad way of course. As for hair, it probably is just a problem for guys who have a predisposition to lose hair anyways.... just from brushing it lol. I'm just one of those types that wants to know all the possible side effects and take steps to account for them. I'm paranoid like that I guess. I'm definitely getting some saw palmetto extract, as for the shampoo etc? depends if I feel like blowing the extra money at that time.
 
WARBIRDWS6 said:
I actually think DHT has an affinity to the prostate, seems to like that part of the body....in a bad way of course. As for hair, it probably is just a problem for guys who have a predisposition to lose hair anyways.... just from brushing it lol. I'm just one of those types that wants to know all the possible side effects and take steps to account for them. I'm paranoid like that I guess. I'm definitely getting some saw palmetto extract, as for the shampoo etc? depends if I feel like blowing the extra money at that time.
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I recommend nettle instead of saw palmetto.
 
Rodja said:
I recommend nettle instead of saw palmetto.
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for real? I've been using saw palmetto (EXTRACT! the expensive stuff no the crap) for many years, decades, and it gets rid of the prostate problems every time like clockwork, within 24 hours usually. Now a combo product? of useful substances? I'm all for that, but I'd have to have the SP extract in there. I usually wait for the onset of prostate issues, then go to the nutrition store to grab the SP since it works so quickly. If I get no prostate issues? well then no trip to the store.
 
Yeah, that product there has both the nettle and saw palmetto in it, and they are standardized extracts as well....plus it has other important ingredients like the pumpkin seed oil etc.....
 
I have used AH V2 and now V3 with no prostate issues, unlike M5aa or 3aa which did give me issues
 
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