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I spent 200 bucks for Andromass.............So why is the formula being changed?

dumplin716

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I spent over 200 bucks on two bottles Andromass a couple of months ago. I was getting ready to run a cycle but am wondering why it is being replaced by a new version? If Andromass is so good why is it being changed? Obviously a little concerned as I spent so much money.
 
its being changed so they can re-sell a "new and improved" shiny bottle for 200 dollars...


sorry bro... 200 dollars could have bought you a whole bunch of food
 
Yeah, that is a massive waste of money even at $100 a bottle. PP is looking for an excuse to charge more to make more money, I highly doubt the new version(s) are going to be some amazing improvement, it would completely invalidate all the claims about how great the first version(s) were.
 
I spent over 200 bucks on two bottles Andromass a couple of months ago. I was getting ready to run a cycle but am wondering why it is being replaced by a new version? If Andromass is so good why is it being changed? Obviously a little concerned as I spent so much money.

Because it sucks, and pp knew they couldn't keep taking advantage to all the suckers buying the product, and had to put out a product that actually worked.......













































































































































































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here's some boobs while you calm down.... :lol:

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Cliffs of the changes: removal of 1-DHEA (too many reports of high levels of lethargy) to make it more of a "test base." There are also some other changes that will be revealed soon (I believe it'll be this weekend).
 
its being changed so they can re-sell a "new and improved" shiny bottle for 200 dollars...

sorry bro... 200 dollars could have bought you a whole bunch of food

...or we decided to address the concerns of lethargy, and seek to improve the overall goal of series, which was very little/no sides.

Yeah, that is a massive waste of money even at $100 a bottle. PP is looking for an excuse to charge more to make more money, I highly doubt the new version(s) are going to be some amazing improvement, it would completely invalidate all the claims about how great the first version(s) were.

Glad to see a rep being classy. I can very well lash back, but I'll take the high road.

For the record, not only have their been changes in what hormones are in each product, dosages have also greatly increased. AndroHard for example contains significantly more actives, at the same price.
 
how can you say the new versions arent any different or wont be better if you probably dont even know what they are
 
...or we decided to address the concerns of lethargy, and seek to improve the overall goal of series, which was very little/no sides.



Glad to see a rep being classy. I can very well lash back, but I'll take the high road.

For the record, not only have their been changes in what hormones are in each product, dosages have also greatly increased. AndroHard for example contains significantly more actives, at the same price.

So I can't have an opinion. I recommend your products to people but that does not change the reality they are expensive; the exact comments that are in EVERY thread about the Andro Series. You started to touch on the value proposition of the product in your post, that is what I would focus on. Many companies in different industries get people to buy significantly more expensive products that are either unique in some way or are innovative, that does not mean there is no criticism of the price or people recommending other options. One person's opinion does not change a buyers mind more often then not. Seriously, this board is getting to the point where if you so much as say anything critical of a company it is damn near the end of the world and you are not classy. Really?
 
Because it sucks, and pp knew they couldn't keep taking advantage to all the suckers buying the product, and had to put out a product that actually worked.......













































































































































































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Interesting that coming from you... at least you have a good sense of humor and choices in women!
 
how can you say the new versions arent any different or wont be better if you probably dont even know what they are

We know what the differences will be, but they won't be revealed to the general public until the write-ups.
 
I think everyone at pp knows my thoughts on the andro series, no point in beating a dead horse finny.
Am isn't for everyone, those who it is for will like it, its a good product, just not for everyone.
 
So I can't have an opinion. I recommend your products to people but that does not change the reality they are expensive; the exact comments that are in EVERY thread about the Andro Series. You started to touch on the value proposition of the product in your post, that is what I would focus on. Many companies in different industries get people to buy significantly more expensive products that are either unique in some way or are innovative, that does not mean there is no criticism of the price or people recommending other options. One person's opinion does not change a buyers mind more often then not. Seriously, this board is getting to the point where if you so much as say anything critical of a company it is damn near the end of the world and you are not classy. Really?

The lack of class was in your choice of words, but I really don't care to argue it.
 
Considering oufinny used to talk about how allsum pink magic was I'm not sure he has much credibility on issues like these.
 
Considering oufinny used to talk about how allsum pink magic was I'm not sure he has much credibility on issues like these.

Personal attacks don't help things much. Why would base someones credibility on what supplements worked for them, or what supplements they like?. Just because Pink Magic didn't work for you doesn't mean it won't work for someone else. Same thing goes for all supplements.
 
Personal attacks don't help things much. that depends, i'd say it helps make it more fun
Why would base someones credibility on what supplements worked for them, or what supplements they like?. reasonable question.
Just because Pink Magic didn't work for you doesn't mean it won't work for someone else. Same thing goes for all supplements. eh, i guess so.

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My point was that its odd for someone to take shots about a product that he hasn't used, based solely on cost.

Additionally, people who complain about the expense of a product don't have to take it, period. For example, I don't think $100 is very much for a product so for someone to wail about cost when he hasn't tried the product is laughable at best, and misleading at worst.
 
Considering oufinny used to talk about how allsum pink magic was I'm not sure he has much credibility on issues like these.

I did like it, I have a log and pics to prove the beta worked; I can PM you the link if you like. I ran it again 6 months later with an ever better stack, Prime included among a few others, and I got nothing from it. So yes, I felt pretty annoyed as anyone would and my review and comments reflected it. If you drop a bunch of money on something that worked earlier in the year and did nothing for you six months later how would you feel? What is this bb.com? That is why I left there... I do so love IML's forum, people have thicker skin and don't get defensive so much.
 
The Androseries is expensive, period. You pay for what you get... Quality control, enhanced absorption on safer compounds, legal compounds, dshea compliant... I've done a price comparision for the new AH V3 and a cheaper version of the same compound (minus the more powerful isomer) and it's hardly a question considering the enhanced absorption of Androhard which is the better product. We just cram a whole 600mg into our serving as opposed to a meager 150mg (Who uses 150mg of androsterone? No one, that's who).

As far as the OP's question goes... if you do get a refund, you'll be able to purchase 1 bottle of the current version. Changes happen in a product lines life, and I can totally understand wanting the new version over the older version... but the old version will still build a ton of mass (especially dosed with 2 bottles, either 9 caps for 6 weeks or 6 caps for 8 weeks) but you may experience some lethargy/lessened libido.
 
We have choices and can make decisions...

A company can sell a product for what they believe it is worth based on their time and effort put into it and a consumer can chose to spend then hard earned funds on it based on their needs as they see fit :)
 
OK, so I am eligible for a refund under the sole premise that I want to purchase the new version? Just want to clarify. Thanks.

The Androseries is expensive, period. You pay for what you get... Quality control, enhanced absorption on safer compounds, legal compounds, dshea compliant... I've done a price comparision for the new AH V3 and a cheaper version of the same compound (minus the more powerful isomer) and it's hardly a question considering the enhanced absorption of Androhard which is the better product. We just cram a whole 600mg into our serving as opposed to a meager 150mg (Who uses 150mg of androsterone? No one, that's who).

As far as the OP's question goes... if you do get a refund, you'll be able to purchase 1 bottle of the current version. Changes happen in a product lines life, and I can totally understand wanting the new version over the older version... but the old version will still build a ton of mass (especially dosed with 2 bottles, either 9 caps for 6 weeks or 6 caps for 8 weeks) but you may experience some lethargy/lessened libido.
 
To the OP, I ran a cycle of AM and it definitely added weight and worked for me. I'm generally a tough responder, if there is such a thing, to these types of OTC products so I bought another 2 bottles and PCT to stock up before they changed the formula. I'm happily holding on ti it. Honestly, you should start it but don't open the 2nd bottle, you'll notice some size in about 2 weeks if you respond to the product. If you see results in the first two weeks, don't complain and just complete the 8 week cycle you have planned. If things aren't responding, reach out to a REP and see what they can do for the 2nd unopened bottle. I have some before and afters on here, I think you can search for my username.

Then log out, change your username, and log back in...since a Duckling is a small duck... I wouldn't call myself Dumpling...
 
dumplin716 said:
Hmmm....ok so what is the catch with the refund?

Read there site FAQ customer service return section...
It details there if u need info right now. :)
 
"Effective for orders placed after July 17th, 2011 -All purchases of Primordial Performance product that are ordered directly from Primordial Performance are backed by a 100% money-back guarantee for the original purchase price. If for any reason you are dissatisfied, simply call us at 1-503-841-6702 within 60 days from your date of order shipment. You will be instructed to submit a written explanation of why you are dissatisfied. Upon receiving this explanation, we will provide you with a return authorization number (RA#). You will be required to return any unused portions and/or empty containers for items that you wish to receive a refund for, along with the RA#. Shipping charges are non-refundable.
All orders paid with the 3x payment plan, or any form of credit, must be paid in full before any credit will be given for returned product. Unshipped orders may be canceled at any time.
NOTE: If you order two or more units of the same product, the satisfaction-guaranteed policy only applies to one opened container, and any remaining unopened containers."
 
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