what do you guys think is a good product for lean body mass gains?

Austinmck17

Austinmck17

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I'm currently 170 and wanna get to 180 with the same body fat or less. looking into taking an anti cortisol and maybe hemodraulix? what do you guys think
 
Do you need one? No, Would it help, more than likely, some psychological some real effects. Personally i loved Anabeta and erase stack, if you want a T booster add DAA like formula X. Lean fx is more of a fat burner/energy pill.
 
Austinmck17 said:
I have lean fx, do I need a test booster I'm 21? I just started takin it today
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Lean fx and TCF-1 would be a great stack. A test booster (TCF-1) for muscle gain and lean fx to keep you lean.
 
A person is logging the stack right now that I am going to suggest to you

IGF 2, Anabeta, Free Test OR Erase, DAA

OR

IGF 2, Anabeta, Sustain Alpha
 
okay do this is the stack i have in mind. anabeta, daa, erase. I have a bottle of titanium Xl and con-cret as well and oxy elite
 
GDAs are a good way to add mass and keep lean (diet depending)

Glucose Disposal Agent examples...
Slinsane
Glycobol
Anabolic pump
Need 2 slin
Neovar recomped (a creatine with some GDA characteristics as well)

There are others as well. GDAs ate great aids while lean bulking and offer great pumps in the gym as a bonus. Just make sure to follow directions regarding dosing and meals. just remember diet and training will make up 90%of your gains (at least!)
 
what about recompadrol? i read so many good reviews and logs but then I also read that it doesn't work nearly the way it says! it is more of a placebo effect. I was going to test it out but never got a chance because it didn't look promising
 
I also have 11oxo but wasn't trying to use it yet since I still feel like im to small and won't see any use from it yet...
 
11oxo is a mild PH.

Just stick with what you have, don't overspend on stacks. at 21, you most likely do not need a test booster.
 
yeah i would just take anabeta with the basic supplements like this (good stack for your age)

Anabeta
Creatine (your choice of what type)
Pre workout (Stim, Nonstim, slight stim/focus...up to you)
BCAAs (2:1:1 ratio like iBCAA)
Protein - 100% whey
 
R1balla said:
A person is logging the stack right now that I am going to suggest to you

IGF 2, Anabeta, Free Test OR Erase, DAA

OR

IGF 2, Anabeta, Sustain Alpha
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What about IGF-1 Extreme in place of 2? And this doesnt need a PCT since there are no PH involved, right? This is more of a lean mass add on?
 
I like these stacks but I just ordered Anabeta yesterday since it looks promising. what I'm gonna be using is:
DAA
Erase
Anabeta
Titanium
fish oil
vitamin c

or what I might do is split this into two stacks.

Anabeta
DAA
fish oil
vitamin c
con-cret

then right after this use:

erase
titanium xl
DAA
fish oil
vitamin c

While on both stacks I will be using Pro Complex for ON and 100% Whey protein from ON.

What I hope is to get my body mass down to below 7% after these two stacks and gain about 10lbs.
 
Austinmck17 said:
I like these stacks but I just ordered Anabeta yesterday since it looks promising. what I'm gonna be using is:
DAA
Erase
Anabeta
Titanium
fish oil
vitamin c

or what I might do is split this into two stacks.

Anabeta
DAA
fish oil
vitamin c
con-cret

then right after this use:

erase
titanium xl
DAA
fish oil
vitamin c

While on both stacks I will be using Pro Complex for ON and 100% Whey protein from ON.

What I hope is to get my body mass down to below 7% after these two stacks and gain about 10lbs.
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Log it!

Im going for 210 @ 8% bf starting in Jan.
 
criticalbench said:
Those are some pretty serious numbers to shoot for! Good luck bro!
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Yeah man. Im lean bulking to 225 currently. Figured I might as well try it. Worst thing that happens is 210 @ 10-11% haha
 
drizzzo said:
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What about IGF-1 Extreme in place of 2? And this doesnt need a PCT since there are no PH involved, right? This is more of a lean mass add on?
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IGF 1 is completely different from IGF 2. do your research on both. and no PCT is needed or required for IGF 2. These are natural testosterone/Growth Hormone boosting products that I have suggested. In fact, you can use IGF 2 in PCT (not FOR PCT)
 
"Insulin-like growth factor 1 (IGF-1) is mainly secreted by the liver as a result of stimulation by growth hormone (GH). IGF-1 is important for both the regulation of normal physiology, as well as a number of pathological states, including cancer. The IGF axis has been shown to play roles in the promotion of cell proliferation and the inhibition of cell death (apoptosis). Insulin-like growth factor 2 (IGF-2) is thought to be a primary growth factor required for early development while IGF-1 expression is required for achieving maximal growth. Gene knockout studies in mice have confirmed this, though other animals are likely to regulate the expression of these genes in distinct ways. While IGF-2 may be primarily fetal in action it is also essential for development and function of organs such as the brain, liver and kidney."

-Wikipedia
 
Take a look at VidaTest. You can get three months for $63 using the coupon code. Users report great increases in strength, endurance and libido.
 
drizzzo said:
"Insulin-like growth factor 1 (IGF-1) is mainly secreted by the liver as a result of stimulation by growth hormone (GH). IGF-1 is important for both the regulation of normal physiology, as well as a number of pathological states, including cancer. The IGF axis has been shown to play roles in the promotion of cell proliferation and the inhibition of cell death (apoptosis). Insulin-like growth factor 2 (IGF-2) is thought to be a primary growth factor required for early development while IGF-1 expression is required for achieving maximal growth. Gene knockout studies in mice have confirmed this, though other animals are likely to regulate the expression of these genes in distinct ways. While IGF-2 may be primarily fetal in action it is also essential for development and function of organs such as the brain, liver and kidney."

-Wikipedia
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IGF-2 is a formulation dude.
 
I see this question asked a lot. First thing you need to do is understand why the products everyone is suggesting will work in building muscle. Then research the ingredients, and you'll have a better understanding of what ingredients to actually look for when you shop. This way you don't get conned into doing something like buying 10 pounds of L-Glutamine powder because the guy in the reader magazine ad says it helped him get big.
You have to be an informed shopper.
A lot of the suggestions I'm seeing are great. Hopefully you figure it out.
 
Austinmck17 said:
I like these stacks but I just ordered Anabeta yesterday since it looks promising. what I'm gonna be using is:
DAA
Erase
Anabeta
Titanium
fish oil
vitamin c

or what I might do is split this into two stacks.

Anabeta
DAA
fish oil
vitamin c
con-cret

then right after this use:

erase
titanium xl
DAA
fish oil
vitamin c

While on both stacks I will be using Pro Complex for ON and 100% Whey protein from ON.

What I hope is to get my body mass down to below 7% after these two stacks and gain about 10lbs.
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I like the idea of splitting them up. For the Anabeta/DAA stack I'd focus on adding some extra carbs for mass, anabeta is great for this. Then focus on the leaning for the TitaniumXL/Erase stack, very sick stack for getting dry and cut.
 
so you think a pro complex weight gainer would be beneficial? or should I get the regular mass gainer from optimum nutrition
 
Austinmck17 said:
so you think a pro complex weight gainer would be beneficial? or should I get the regular mass gainer from optimum nutrition
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Well I'd stay with regular whey protein and get your high cals and carbs from food, I find those weight gainers put on a lot of unneeded fat.
 
Austinmck17 said:
so you think a pro complex weight gainer would be beneficial? or should I get the regular mass gainer from optimum nutrition
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Make your own weight gainer shakes. You get everything you want, nothing you don't want, and they taste better (if you're creative).
 
FL3X MAGNUM said:
Make your own weight gainer shakes. You get everything you want, nothing you don't want, and they taste better (if you're creative).
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Agreed, I love making home made weight gainer shakes, you can add anything really, oatmeal, bananas, flexseed oil, the list is endless!
 
Austinmck17 said:
so you think a pro complex weight gainer would be beneficial? or should I get the regular mass gainer from optimum nutrition
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As others said, homemade is much, much better.

2 scoops Whey
1-2 Tbsp PB
Fruit
Milk
Eggs(I enjoy raw eggs)
flaxseed
etc.=high calorie, great tasting...
 
Daycrawler said:
As others said, homemade is much, much better.

2 scoops Whey
1-2 Tbsp PB
Fruit
Milk
Eggs(I enjoy raw eggs)
flaxseed
etc.=high calorie, great tasting...
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Definitely this, homemade is wayyy better.
 
MM11 said:
GDAs are a good way to add mass and keep lean (diet depending)

Glucose Disposal Agent examples...
Slinsane
Glycobol
Anabolic pump
Need 2 slin
Neovar recomped (a creatine with some GDA characteristics as well)

There are others as well. GDAs ate great aids while lean bulking and offer great pumps in the gym as a bonus. Just make sure to follow directions regarding dosing and meals. just remember diet and training will make up 90%of your gains (at least!)
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This ^^^^ plus food!
 
ultimate lean body mass from my experiences...

Slin sane
d-aspartic acid 3g
Ecdy
10gbcaa before each meal

that oughtta be solid man!
 
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