mattrag
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Dude... I know... i wanna bulk but looking at it... I can't really afford the increase in the amount of food I need to eat to even gain 1lb a week...
CARDIOBRO UPPS HIS CARDIO WITH EPI/TRANSADERM!! an EPIc LOG! pics inc
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Dude... I know... i wanna bulk but looking at it... I can't really afford the increase in the amount of food I need to eat to even gain 1lb a week...
cardiobro
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Thanks for subbing in bro, feeling good on the 45mg
Ill def have to check out that stuff, sounds like a great deal, thanks! Been on trans for 20 days and 14 on epi now. 3 days at 45mg
RickRock13
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45mg and your 3rd week of Epi is where things always get good (at least for me in my experience)
cardiobro
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Sorry for the long break again guys, will update later and put up pics. I am now 18 days in on epi and day 24 of transaderm. Took them today after 2 days of burnin, so i look a bit flat. Weight is down to 182 on an empty stomach in the morning, bit more vascular. Will give back more info later
cardiobro
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OK, here are some pics i took about a week ago. Like i said before, nothing really insane as of yet in body recomp, and strength gains arent very impressive either at the moment. (i am cutting though so maintaining or moving up even a tiny bit is a good thing) Todays fast breaking meal 8 eggs 5oz steak 2 slices rye bread, half scoop whey protein, 3 potatoes(shredded)
about 120 carbs/100g protein
good stuff
Today was a burn day and my hidden secret came in. Will post back later with details on what exactly that is
As of now we have 8 days to go left at 60mg a day epi, and another 6-7 weeks on transaderm.
Here are the pics as promised as well as my supplement dresser. Maybe one of you can pick out the "hidden secret"
Also, sorry ive been slacking on the log a bit. Will be more with it now. Been extremely busy but thanks for all sticking around.
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about 120 carbs/100g protein
good stuffToday was a burn day and my hidden secret came in. Will post back later with details on what exactly that is
As of now we have 8 days to go left at 60mg a day epi, and another 6-7 weeks on transaderm.Here are the pics as promised as well as my supplement dresser. Maybe one of you can pick out the "hidden secret"
Also, sorry ive been slacking on the log a bit. Will be more with it now. Been extremely busy but thanks for all sticking around.
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RickRock13
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Damn that is a hell of a stash bro. Looking lean there too!
cardiobro
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thanks guys, im getting there. Notice a bit less fat each day. Also, if you can see it i ended up purchasing a bottle of UD a couple days ago. I had to give the stuff a shot before my 6month or so break. So heres whats probably going to happen with the next couple weeks. (hope my liver is down) 60mg epi for the next 7 days/8mg UD for the next 7 days Then 20mg ud/20mg ud. After that ill coast through 2-3 weeks after that on the trans to help solidify gains/fatloss made and ill start taking erase/forma etc and get pct in gear. UD is going to be the final blast to help shred up.
As for the Epi, i am just starting to really feel the effects now at 60mg. I know for the future now that i need to run a higher dose. (i knew beforehand that i had a high tolerance to phs) That being said, the effects are great. The joints hurt a tiny bit but nothing unbearable. Really looking forward to the next month. I can feel body recomp more and more each day.
RickRock13
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So I take it you are bridging into the Ultradrol and dropping the Epi in a week? If so that is fine. I dont know much about Ultradrol though and what the recommended dosing is, but the 20mg weems a little high if I remember right. also Transaderm is great, but not enough to hold gains made from the big orals for 2-3 weeks before starting PCT. I would start PCT whenever you come off the orals and you can taper down your dose of Transaderm in PCT if you want to
cardiobro
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exactly. I am running the epi until the bottle runs out which will last seven more days at 60mg. Then like u said it will just be the UD. So much hype id kick myself if i didnt give it a shot and we got hit with a ban stick. Perhaps i over estimated transaderms powers, however i was intending to start up the erase/forma right after along with the transaderm like you said. Just getting my natural test back up should be the only issue. Which right now its actually fine. Ive experienced little to no shrinkage as of yet. I suppose its the transaderm doing its thing. If it can help prevent me from shutdown while on UD that would be amazing
mattrag
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This sounds like a very good protocol. When I come off transaderm I will try to taper down a bit.
mattrag
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steppinRazor
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You lucky dog..I was initially gonna run UD and bridge into epi but I wussed out
Can't wait to see how this goes for you!
Can't wait to see how this goes for you!
cardiobro
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This would be the whole cycle
transaderm 8pumps/day for 10 weeks
epi 10 day intervals of 30/45/60
Ultradrol in 10 day intervals like this 0 0 8 20 20
so 50 days total = 6 weeks ish and then the last 3-4 will be cruising on trans into start of PCT. Ultradrol supposedly does not convert to estrogen, which is one of the reasons i thought it would be cool to run towards the end of the cycle and cruise on the trans.
AS OF NOW. Insane shoulder workout today freakin nuts. I am absolutley loving the epi at 60mg and am considering ordering some more bottles. For a future cycle id love to do epi at 45/60/60/75. Really responding to it now. Blew through my old shoulder prs by a considerable amount. Hitting legs tomorrow, then 2 burn days to follow.
COMON LIVER DONT QUIT ON ME NOW!
mattrag
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DAMN NICE man. cycle sounds so nice... shiet though epi at 75mgs? I don't even think RickRock dosed it that high lol. make sure you get that joint support lol.
RickRock13
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In my opinion there is no need to ever go to 75mg. 45mg is the sweet spot for most, and 60mg I only run the last couple weeks of a cycle. The increase beyond 60mg will lead to diminished returns and benefits with a big increase in sides.
cardiobro
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perhaps i got over zealous because 60mg feel so effing great. If i do order more, id def like to run 60mg for 3 weeks. As for now ill just have to see how i do with the last week ahead bridging into the ultradrol. In my 6 month break i may toss in a strictly transaderm cycle or something to that extent down the line, but i think we would all agree my liver/heart could use a solid break. Im going to pick up some n2guard to help get everything back on track post cycle.
RickRock13
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cardiobro said:
That is a good idea after this run you are on. A solid break and some N2guard in PCT will help to normalize some things.
cardiobro
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Current weight 184 empty stomach
So here we are nearing the middle of my cycle. Thought id put up some of my current weights. The gains arent crazy by any means, but that is obviously because my goal is cutting, so any gains are welcomed in my opinion.
Have 4 days left on the epi at 60mg and then will be pumping the ud dose to the manly dose of 20mg a day. Feeling AMAZING on the epi right now.
Current weights 24 days on epi 30 days on transaderm (im going to outline 1 excersize that ill keep constant for each day. Not going to post my entire workout, reps, and sets for everything lol, So here goes)
Days i do chest - Flat DB bench press, Start - 125's for 7reps
Triceps - seated overhead tricep extension 110 lb db for 11
Biceps - seated concentration curls - 45 lb db for 9 each arm
Shoulders - Shrugs - 130 lb dbs for 14 (no wraps) and seated military db press 80 lb dbs for 10
Back - Deadlift - 315 for 8
Legs - Hacksquats - 3 plates either side for 13 reps.
Really really really hard not to just say **** it and go on a straight bulk right now but i am holding strong. Today is my second burn day in a row. Looking forward to tomorrow. Will take some pics around next week. The changes are starting to become way more visible
Thanks all! Keepin it goin
So here we are nearing the middle of my cycle. Thought id put up some of my current weights. The gains arent crazy by any means, but that is obviously because my goal is cutting, so any gains are welcomed in my opinion.
Have 4 days left on the epi at 60mg and then will be pumping the ud dose to the manly dose of 20mg a day. Feeling AMAZING on the epi right now.
Current weights 24 days on epi 30 days on transaderm (im going to outline 1 excersize that ill keep constant for each day. Not going to post my entire workout, reps, and sets for everything lol, So here goes)
Days i do chest - Flat DB bench press, Start - 125's for 7reps
Triceps - seated overhead tricep extension 110 lb db for 11
Biceps - seated concentration curls - 45 lb db for 9 each arm
Shoulders - Shrugs - 130 lb dbs for 14 (no wraps) and seated military db press 80 lb dbs for 10
Back - Deadlift - 315 for 8
Legs - Hacksquats - 3 plates either side for 13 reps.
Really really really hard not to just say **** it and go on a straight bulk right now but i am holding strong. Today is my second burn day in a row. Looking forward to tomorrow. Will take some pics around next week. The changes are starting to become way more visible
Thanks all! Keepin it goin
mattrag
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Must be feeling amazing lol.
yea if you had more fuel you could probably get bigger and stronger. Though it's most likely best to cut on the goodies than bulk on them (or at least keep hormones at a good balance on cycle) so when you come off you don't have to worry about too many other problems carrying more fat after a cycle during PCT.
You're doing great man! You're cycle rocks.... hahah
lilguy1020
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Subbed. In for the ride. Keep up the good work
cardiobro
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Must be feeling amazing lol.
yea if you had more fuel you could probably get bigger and stronger. Though it's most likely best to cut on the goodies than bulk on them (or at least keep hormones at a good balance on cycle) so when you come off you don't have to worry about too many other problems carrying more fat after a cycle during PCT.
You're doing great man! You're cycle rocks.... hahah
Oh.... i am feeling great.
RickRock13
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Nice update bro. I know its hard on cycle to not want to just eat and grow, but just keep your goal in mind and youll get there. Keep up the great work!
cardiobro
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Pretty good back/biceps workout today. Dropped the weight and did more reps on all of my lifts because my joints were SCREAMING! Perhaps ill have to look into cissius or something of that nature, as im sure it wont get any better on ultradrol. However still had a great day. Busted out 225 for nearly 20 solid reps on deadlift Concentrate curled 35s for 15 each arm just focusing on incredibly slow reps and pausing just before going down all the way to save my joints.
Banged out a set of 14 pull ups which is nice not having done them in a while. I think at my lightest i was able to do 17 so that might be a little goal to beat.
Other then that im about to stuff face with a scoop of whey, 2 cups cottage cheese and some sort of sub my grandmother wanted to get rid of.
3 days left on the epi at 60mg then one more on 30mg just to finish off the bottle and i intend to bump the ultra if everything keeps going smooth
Banged out a set of 14 pull ups which is nice not having done them in a while. I think at my lightest i was able to do 17 so that might be a little goal to beat.
Other then that im about to stuff face with a scoop of whey, 2 cups cottage cheese and some sort of sub my grandmother wanted to get rid of.
3 days left on the epi at 60mg then one more on 30mg just to finish off the bottle and i intend to bump the ultra if everything keeps going smooth
ripped_one
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GREAT progress! Keep shredding till you are 6%! Lean and ripped is where it's at. =)
cardiobro
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idk if i could hold 6% and stay sane but ill shoot for 10 now and maybe in the far distance go for 8
RickRock13
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cardiobro said:idk if i could hold 6% and stay sane but ill shoot for 10 now and maybe in the far distance go for 8
6% would be a heck of a lot of work. I worked my ass off all summer to get between 7.5% and 8%. Cutting to 8% isn't too bad though and it leaves you looking pretty ripped. I'm at 8% in my avi, and I'm fairly happy with it
cardiobro
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8% is plenty for me i think. Its hard sacrificing muscle as it is haha
mattrag
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This is the main reason I really don't like cutting lol. To me Muscle is my metabolic fire. I love to eat... no muscle = no food ; ;
cardiobro
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day 34 transaderm 28 epi 6 ultradrol
^^ as the title reads.
Tomorrow will be my last dose of 60mg epi an8mg ultradrol. I am going to take a 1 week cruise on just the trans and give my liver a bit of a break before i pound down 14 days of 20mg ultradrol for 2 weeks. I will begin my DAA in a couple days as well as erase. Ill start the forma directly post my last dose of ultradrol, and i have some hcgenerate on the way as well. Ill hold onto the nolva untill a few days after my last dose of UD as well.
Just want to be safe, I know my blood pressure is pretty high(one of the sides i seem to always get) and my lipids are probably shot at the moment. 1 week of loading up on milk thistle cant hurt, and a 1 week break shouldnt hurt any gains made whatsoever.
Current weight is 186 on an empty stomach so it seems to have gone up a bit since my last update, however i really am leaning out. Ill post up pics in a few days as a testament to that
Side note: Transaderm! I LOVEYOU! this stuff literally lasts forever. nearly 5 weeks and i still have enough for another week it looks like in the bottle. at 8 pumps a day? Amazing
Bad note: Had a bad chest day and only did 125's for 3 reps. Felt like such a little bitch. No idea why i just felt incredibly weak. All my other lifts went fine however and had an insane pump. I guess everyone is allowed to have a bad day once in a while.
Funny note: I think i gave NTBM a bit of a bad name today. After my last set of my last excersise for leg day- leg extensions there was a man named cardiobro. He was wearing his brand new NTBM shirt that had come in yesterday, and was eager to show off his fresh shirt at the gym. The man stood from the machine and took one step. one step too much! Left left gave out and dropped like a sack of bricks- LOL. Looked like such a pro.
Gotta love leg day...
^^ as the title reads.
Tomorrow will be my last dose of 60mg epi an8mg ultradrol. I am going to take a 1 week cruise on just the trans and give my liver a bit of a break before i pound down 14 days of 20mg ultradrol for 2 weeks. I will begin my DAA in a couple days as well as erase. Ill start the forma directly post my last dose of ultradrol, and i have some hcgenerate on the way as well. Ill hold onto the nolva untill a few days after my last dose of UD as well.
Just want to be safe, I know my blood pressure is pretty high(one of the sides i seem to always get) and my lipids are probably shot at the moment. 1 week of loading up on milk thistle cant hurt, and a 1 week break shouldnt hurt any gains made whatsoever.
Current weight is 186 on an empty stomach so it seems to have gone up a bit since my last update, however i really am leaning out. Ill post up pics in a few days as a testament to that
Side note: Transaderm! I LOVEYOU! this stuff literally lasts forever. nearly 5 weeks and i still have enough for another week it looks like in the bottle. at 8 pumps a day? Amazing
Bad note: Had a bad chest day and only did 125's for 3 reps. Felt like such a little bitch. No idea why i just felt incredibly weak. All my other lifts went fine however and had an insane pump. I guess everyone is allowed to have a bad day once in a while.
Funny note: I think i gave NTBM a bit of a bad name today. After my last set of my last excersise for leg day- leg extensions there was a man named cardiobro. He was wearing his brand new NTBM shirt that had come in yesterday, and was eager to show off his fresh shirt at the gym. The man stood from the machine and took one step. one step too much! Left left gave out and dropped like a sack of bricks- LOL. Looked like such a pro.
Gotta love leg day...
RickRock13
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Haha...love the NTBM shirt story. If you kill you legs good enough that you collapse, you did well!!
cardiobro
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Day 48 transaderm 3rd day in on ultradrol 2 week blast @ 20mg/week
Sorry i havent posted back in a bit guys. Been neglecting my AM duties hard. I enjoy being a bit loose with this log as i am not specifically tied to a product log. More of a pleasure thing here. Been going through a breakup and as you all know they can distract you from your duties at times.
Up to 188 on an empty stomach but i am much much leaner. Coming dangerously close to the brink of my 6 pack. Visible four and i can feel the bottom two underneath. I was thinking that i only had a four pack untill now actually. Like an arnold 4pack and just flatness underneith but now i can tell that at the right bf i think id have a nice looking 6.
I am also on creatine decanate as of 2 days ago and will continue at 10g for a month. My DAA should arrive shortly and will begin as soon as it arrives. For AI i decided to buy reversitol v2 from my local GNC to give it a whirl and i ended up winning a promo for tropinol (test booster) Which ill start in about a week. Ill start the reversitol the day after my last dose of ultradrol as well as my nolv. Also i have some N2KTS on the way with my DAA. Really looking forward to that one.
So ill get some pics up on my last day of ultra and possibly a week or two after just to see how much was retained afterwards. I really want to finish this transaderm and am thinking of upping the dose to match when ultradrol will be finished as im not going to be able to touch anything for about six months soon and i dont want to waste it. Anyone think it would be detremental to go as high as 15-20 pumps/day?
Sorry i havent posted back in a bit guys. Been neglecting my AM duties hard. I enjoy being a bit loose with this log as i am not specifically tied to a product log. More of a pleasure thing here. Been going through a breakup and as you all know they can distract you from your duties at times.
Up to 188 on an empty stomach but i am much much leaner. Coming dangerously close to the brink of my 6 pack. Visible four and i can feel the bottom two underneath. I was thinking that i only had a four pack untill now actually. Like an arnold 4pack and just flatness underneith but now i can tell that at the right bf i think id have a nice looking 6.
I am also on creatine decanate as of 2 days ago and will continue at 10g for a month. My DAA should arrive shortly and will begin as soon as it arrives. For AI i decided to buy reversitol v2 from my local GNC to give it a whirl and i ended up winning a promo for tropinol (test booster) Which ill start in about a week. Ill start the reversitol the day after my last dose of ultradrol as well as my nolv. Also i have some N2KTS on the way with my DAA. Really looking forward to that one.
So ill get some pics up on my last day of ultra and possibly a week or two after just to see how much was retained afterwards. I really want to finish this transaderm and am thinking of upping the dose to match when ultradrol will be finished as im not going to be able to touch anything for about six months soon and i dont want to waste it. Anyone think it would be detremental to go as high as 15-20 pumps/day?
RickRock13
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I wouldnt go that high on Transaderm bro, and I dont think there is a need to. maybe 7 or 8 pumps is probably as high as i would ever go, even with an AI.
cardiobro
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RickRock13
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cardiobro said:Any specific reason? wonder if id go bald..... and, how fast?
Just that it would be overkill, and wouldn't necessarily equal better results. More isn't always better, and you reach a point of diminished returns.
cardiobro
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LAST DAY TRANSADERM 10 left to go on 20mg ultradrol
SO. This log is just all over the place. I didnt really stick to plan whatsoever but such is life i suppose. Today has to be my last day of transaderm. I am going to the police academy in january and need to be clean of anything that could cause a positive or false positive on a drug test. Transaderm must come to a close but i figure ill finish out my ultradrol as the transaderm will take about 3 weeks to be out of my system completely. My package of DAA powder and N2KTS came today, and so i already started with my first dose of DAA and will continue untill it is gone. Reversitol v2 has been started already as well, and will continue for one month. Tropinol has yet to arrive but will be started immediatley.
Basically I need to rush PCT as i just got my packet today and thought i had more time foolishly. Im hoping for a speedy recovery and not to lose much size. I know during the academy i will slim out pretty good.
So yet another wrench in the system. Nothing that will affect gains in the short term. I should be moving up for another 14 days ish.
SO. This log is just all over the place. I didnt really stick to plan whatsoever but such is life i suppose. Today has to be my last day of transaderm. I am going to the police academy in january and need to be clean of anything that could cause a positive or false positive on a drug test. Transaderm must come to a close but i figure ill finish out my ultradrol as the transaderm will take about 3 weeks to be out of my system completely. My package of DAA powder and N2KTS came today, and so i already started with my first dose of DAA and will continue untill it is gone. Reversitol v2 has been started already as well, and will continue for one month. Tropinol has yet to arrive but will be started immediatley.
Basically I need to rush PCT as i just got my packet today and thought i had more time foolishly. Im hoping for a speedy recovery and not to lose much size. I know during the academy i will slim out pretty good.
So yet another wrench in the system. Nothing that will affect gains in the short term. I should be moving up for another 14 days ish.
cardiobro
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So yuck, this log is going to be retired. I couldnt do my original plan of taking the ud for the following 10 days, I figured id play it safe as i dont want anything in my system or to mess up my liver/heart values too badly before i have to get blood done. Ii figure the more time to recouperate the better. I began pct about a week ago. Ill toss up some finishing pics soon for whoevers still intirested. I am i daresay the leanest ive ever been. Lifts are about the same but i do feel smaller. Its the factor of having more fat while wearing a shirt and how much bigger it does make you look.
Ending weight 183 (morning weight fasted)
Pics will be up soon as well as my numbers in the gym. Thanks for your support guys, im really dissapointed about this one but i suppose better safe then sorry
Ending weight 183 (morning weight fasted)
Pics will be up soon as well as my numbers in the gym. Thanks for your support guys, im really dissapointed about this one but i suppose better safe then sorry
RickRock13
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Looking forward to the pics bro...
Srt4Muscle
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good to see someone actually complete a log for once, would like to see your after pics as well, good luck with pct!
cardiobro
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1 week into PCT
Thanks man, im just dissapointing that i didnt get to complete exactly what i wanted, i hate saying one thing and then doing another.
Ok so i finally had the time to put up some pics
weighed in at 184 today, Pictures came out kind of funky for whatever reason. Tried to duplicate the lighting as best i could.
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Current lifts
Db flat bench 125s for 5
Deadlift 315 for 7
concentration curls 40s for 12 each arm
seated overhead tricep extension with dumbell 105lb for 13
shoulder military press 80s for 6
front squat 185 for 7
Thanks man, im just dissapointing that i didnt get to complete exactly what i wanted, i hate saying one thing and then doing another.
Ok so i finally had the time to put up some pics
weighed in at 184 today, Pictures came out kind of funky for whatever reason. Tried to duplicate the lighting as best i could.
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Current lifts
Db flat bench 125s for 5
Deadlift 315 for 7
concentration curls 40s for 12 each arm
seated overhead tricep extension with dumbell 105lb for 13
shoulder military press 80s for 6
front squat 185 for 7
Srt4Muscle
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im curious how much BF do you think you lost, and do you know what your bf is right now.
cardiobro
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Its hard to say man. My guestimate is gained 5lbs of muscle after all was said and done and lost about 7-9lbs of fat. My waist was at 34 inches before the cycle and is now at 32 and a half, but my weight didnt drop all that much. So id say my above guestimate is pretty close. As far at % goes im guessing that im near 10-11% Perhaps someone else can chime in as to what they guestimate my BF% is at.
RickRock13
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cardiobro said:
Its hard to tell from the pics, but 10-11% sounds pretty accurate from what I see