New E-pharm product: URSOBOLIC !

Just got my 3 bottles from online. Opened it to find half the capsules broken.. What gives. At 9 a day, this bottle will last me a week.... Neat
 
Force of Green said:
I hope you don't really believe that. A lot of people on this board that log PHs lose all their gains out of stupidity. Also, the terms lean bulking, 'dirty' bulking (who ever came up with that), and recomping have been misconstrued. Many people gain about 10lbs, lose 5 in PCT and then just slowly wither away. However, if you keep training hard and eating the amount of calories to maintain your weight as well as the right macronutrients, you can maintain your gains.
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one can lose all the gains they ever got from hormones or whatever if they let themselves go. But even then they often they will find it easier to gain the muscles back because of muscle memory, which may in part be due to the fact that the additional myonuclei acquired during hypertrophy often doesnt completely dissapear - even when the protein tissue that came with it does
 
Patrick Arnold said:
one can lose all the gains they ever got from hormones or whatever if they let themselves go. But even then they often they will find it easier to gain the muscles back because of muscle memory, which may in part be due to the fact that the additional myonuclei acquired during hypertrophy often doesnt completely dissapear - even when the protein tissue that came with it does
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I tore my left bicep off the bone 2 years ago. It was a complete distal tendon rupture. I had just gotten divorced, it was the begining of the summer and I was as big and cut as I had ever been. I was excited about my prospects with the ladies. I worked out back in the morning and was doing bent over rows with 325, I lost my handle on the last rep, and since I was in my apartment(I have a nicely equipped home gym thanks) I couldn't dump it lest I damage the floor. I hung onto it at the bottom and felt a twinge. Everything seemed ok. That afternoon, it was memorial day weekend(yes there is a relevant point) we were playing pool volley ball and I dug one out with my left arm and felt something like a funny bone hit. By friend points and says"look at your arm" My bicep was rolled up to my shoulder and all my summer plans went whoosh and dissapeared. Here comes the point. After my reattachment surgery, I had the button method, I was in a plaster splint for 6 weeks and a brace for I don't know how long, My arms were 19" pumped when I got hurt when my left came out of the splint 13 inches. I was sick, it was seven months before they turned me loose, I was held at 15 lbs for that arm for three months. By January my arm was 18 inches again and no ph's and as's.The only days I was out of the gym was the day of the injury and the day of my surgery. I went in in my splint and worked my other side I read some where that the body transfers a percentage of gains made the the unworked side in an effort to keep the body balanced. Long story short, My bicep went from 13 - 18 inches in a matter of months, not the years it took to build it to that point originally. So I have personal validity for PA's statement.
 
RoadBlocK said:
Anybody else get any of the black/black capsules mixed in with the black/red? Or did I win a prize?
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I had one capsule that was black on black. I was scared to take it.
 
Mission1 said:
I had one capsule that was black on black. I was scared to take it.
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Send it to me I'll test it for you ....by taking it :joke:
 
so does anyone on this thread have any results to report with this supplement? i have been taking it now for 2 weeks, (9 capsules per day) and am done with the first bottle. can't say i see any results. anyone else with feedback? there seems to be a lot of talk about other things here, so just wondering. thanks.
 
pete53339 said:
so does anyone on this thread have any results to report with this supplement? i have been taking it now for 2 weeks, (9 capsules per day) and am done with the first bottle. can't say i see any results. anyone else with feedback? there seems to be a lot of talk about other things here, so just wondering. thanks.
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pete53339 said:
so does anyone on this thread have any results to report with this supplement? i have been taking it now for 2 weeks, (9 capsules per day) and am done with the first bottle. can't say i see any results. anyone else with feedback? there seems to be a lot of talk about other things here, so just wondering. thanks.
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Sorry to double post but if you look at the attached link to this thread you see folks that have been using for 2 weeks plus and its starting to kick in, this stuff takes a bit results become more pronounced with time. Invalid Link Removed
 
Patrick Arnold said:
one can lose all the gains they ever got from hormones or whatever if they let themselves go. But even then they often they will find it easier to gain the muscles back because of muscle memory, which may in part be due to the fact that the additional myonuclei acquired during hypertrophy often doesnt completely dissapear - even when the protein tissue that came with it does
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Thanks for the info. I was actually wondering about this recently. I'm going to read more about it. Thanks again!
 
Mission1 said:
I was hoping to win something as well. But no problem. I did take it, no fear.
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Im glad somebody else saw this, I was starting to think my eyes were playin tricks on me, but I guess they got half blind chimps putting the caps together instead of machines, lol.

Im starting my second bottle, there is clear mild appetite suppression for me, but I might spread out the dosing throughout the day more, because I have noticed what others have described, for lack of better terms, a drop off in effectiveness later on in the evenings.

Starting to look a little tiny bit leaner in the arms and legs, feeling pretty good overall, only real problem is these damn smoke burps, I caught one coming up today, tried to hold it in and ended up breathing smoke out of my nose like a freakin dragon.
 
RoadBlocK said:
Im glad somebody else saw this, I was starting to think my eyes were playin tricks on me, but I guess they got half blind chimps putting the caps together instead of machines, lol.

Im starting my second bottle, there is clear mild appetite suppression for me, but I might spread out the dosing throughout the day more, because I have noticed what others have described, for lack of better terms, a drop off in effectiveness later on in the evenings.

Starting to look a little tiny bit leaner in the arms and legs, feeling pretty good overall, only real problem is these damn smoke burps, I caught one coming up today, tried to hold it in and ended up breathing smoke out of my nose like a freakin dragon.
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So far for me is smoke burps, facial hair growing faster, very mild appetite suppression. On my third bottle. I really don't see my investment paying off. Big fan of pa, but not thinking of taking it past 4 bottles. Maybe I can earn my money back with magic shows of blowing smoke without smoking a cig.
 
RoadBlocK said:
Im glad somebody else saw this, I was starting to think my eyes were playin tricks on me, but I guess they got half blind chimps putting the caps together instead of machines, lol.

Im starting my second bottle, there is clear mild appetite suppression for me, but I might spread out the dosing throughout the day more, because I have noticed what others have described, for lack of better terms, a drop off in effectiveness later on in the evenings.

Starting to look a little tiny bit leaner in the arms and legs, feeling pretty good overall, only real problem is these damn smoke burps, I caught one coming up today, tried to hold it in and ended up breathing smoke out of my nose like a freakin dragon.
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I still haven't had one, Oh well still holding out for the smoke fart.....I'll let you know
 
PA- hopefully u can answer this-

My eating sched is kinda strange..

I follow lean gains,

On workout days (m,w,th,f) I usually break fast around 5-6 pm with a post workout amino drink.

Then I eat about 30-60 mins later a gigantic meal that my gf, family and friends always ponder if I have a mental disorder (I do ;) }

Then about 2 hours later I have anoter meal/snack and shake then go to bed two hours after that..

My question is: I take9 urso a day.. I've been doing 6 with the huge meal and 3 w the smaller one.. But that's only over the course of 3-4 hours tops.. Im wondering if that is ok/if I'm reaping the most effects with this dosing protocol..

On tues, sat, sun.. I eat 4-5 times a day, smaller meals, so that will be np to spread out doses.. Just wondering about the days outlined above.. Thanks a lot! It's great to have someone involved In the co. Really keeps things personal and casual.
 
chedapalooza said:
PA- hopefully u can answer this-

My eating sched is kinda strange..

I follow lean gains,

On workout days (m,w,th,f) I usually break fast around 5-6 pm with a post workout amino drink.

Then I eat about 30-60 mins later a gigantic meal that my gf, family and friends always ponder if I have a mental disorder (I do ;) }

Then about 2 hours later I have anoter meal/snack and shake then go to bed two hours after that..

My question is: I take9 urso a day.. I've been doing 6 with the huge meal and 3 w the smaller one.. But that's only over the course of 3-4 hours tops.. Im wondering if that is ok/if I'm reaping the most effects with this dosing protocol..

On tues, sat, sun.. I eat 4-5 times a day, smaller meals, so that will be np to spread out doses.. Just wondering about the days outlined above.. Thanks a lot! It's great to have someone involved In the co. Really keeps things personal and casual.
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I think its better to spread it out over three doses to keep levels more constant imo
 
Patrick Arnold said:
one can lose all the gains they ever got from hormones or whatever if they let themselves go. But even then they often they will find it easier to gain the muscles back because of muscle memory, which may in part be due to the fact that the additional myonuclei acquired during hypertrophy often doesnt completely dissapear - even when the protein tissue that came with it does
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Isn't "muscle memory" just a theory?
 
Mission1 said:
So far for me is smoke burps, facial hair growing faster, very mild appetite suppression. On my third bottle. I really don't see my investment paying off. Big fan of pa, but not thinking of taking it past 4 bottles. Maybe I can earn my money back with magic shows of blowing smoke without smoking a cig.
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Yeah I was interested in this product and will still read along to see if anyone has had any real results but my hope is dwindling. I have seen people say things like "I feel like this is working", or "Seems like it might be kicking in", and "I feel warmer at night". Nothing really definitive or proven though except on rats.
 
chedapalooza said:
PA- hopefully u can answer this-

My eating sched is kinda strange..

I follow lean gains,

On workout days (m,w,th,f) I usually break fast around 5-6 pm with a post workout amino drink.

Then I eat about 30-60 mins later a gigantic meal that my gf, family and friends always ponder if I have a mental disorder (I do ;) }

Then about 2 hours later I have anoter meal/snack and shake then go to bed two hours after that..

My question is: I take9 urso a day.. I've been doing 6 with the huge meal and 3 w the smaller one.. But that's only over the course of 3-4 hours tops.. Im wondering if that is ok/if I'm reaping the most effects with this dosing protocol..

On tues, sat, sun.. I eat 4-5 times a day, smaller meals, so that will be np to spread out doses.. Just wondering about the days outlined above.. Thanks a lot! It's great to have someone involved In the co. Really keeps things personal and casual.
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thats certainly not as preferable as spreading it out.
 
T-Bone said:
Yeah I was interested in this product and will still read along to see if anyone has had any real results but my hope is dwindling. I have seen people say things like "I feel like this is working", or "Seems like it might be kicking in", and "I feel warmer at night". Nothing really definitive or proven though except on rats.
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Hopefully henryv will compile a montage of favorable reports we have gotten on the product. The biggest thing has been fat loss
 
Patrick Arnold said:
Hopefully henryv will compile a montage of favorable reports we have gotten on the product. The biggest thing has been fat loss
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Sounds good PA all the positive reports on Urso to date


Do you think its best to take in 3 daily doses in moderate fat meals
or 2 daily doses in higher fat meals 2 doses is more suitable for me?


just ordered 4 bottles from nplanet to ship to me in the UK
cheers
 
Patrick Arnold said:
Hopefully henryv will compile a montage of favorable reports we have gotten on the product. The biggest thing has been fat loss
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How's this?
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Just want to update... have been doing 9 caps for almost 30 days.

There is SOMETHING going on, I have been really slacking on my diet as well as cardio, yet I am just as lean, maybe even leanER than when I started.

Also... my strength keeps going up... like... every single workout.
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I think it started to kick in now after two bottles @ nine caps. Ive been dieting for a while but results are getting more pronounced. Strength is still there despite losing weight. I think it kicks in a longer than people want it to. Have four more bottles on the way. Looking forward to what happens after upping the dosage a bit.
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Dude, it hasn't suppressed my appetite as well. Quit worrying about it, and just eat. I've been taking 9 a day and the only effects I feel are a very distinct thermo effect. I've had no issues with being hungry and getting in my normal meals. I haven't heard anyone say anything about cutting. I'm not using it as a PCT, but I'm using it for my mass gaining phase. I think it works great for that. I was starting to reach a plateau when I started taking it and I've busted right through it! Not sure it was the UA, but it couldn't have hurt!
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same here tried megadosing for a week to check out the potential for a miraculous new natural anabolic, but very satisfied with the repartitioning effect instead (at this second wk) 225 lbs and strength continues to increase along with (mirror) observed leaning out. approaching only wk 2! (yeah i did a lot of it that first week). as PA noted dosing/effects as a proportion of intake inthe cited studeis, my dosing is adjusted accordingly, unless I am really not hungry at all (this is happening often) then I get a real cool pumped feeling by mixing it with veg oil before taking it. Only 'cuz i wanted to check the solubility in vinegar, but no such thing, so I put in some oil and saw it disperse very well in that, and drank it. Nice feeling.
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Here are a few for your perusal
 
Nice post on other users results.

And as far as muscle memory. I think just like how they say if we were fat once it's easier to get fat again, same goes for muscle. The specific metabolic pathways are already there. Just need the stimulus to get us back.
 
No offence, but these posts doesn't demonstrate any fatloss. "I think" and "something going on" are not something that makes me want to buy. No clear cut fatloss effects. We've also seen some who did not respond to it yet after 3 weeks. I'm still holding on hoping it will produce solid fatloss results. I'm still optimistic, but so far it takes 3 to 4 weeks to start to feel something. Hopefully over the next month people will start losing some serious fat.
 
fadi said:
No offence, but these posts doesn't demonstrate any fatloss. "I think" and "something going on" are not something that makes me want to buy. No clear cut fatloss effects. We've also seen some who did not respond to it yet after 3 weeks. I'm still holding on hoping it will produce solid fatloss results. I'm still optimistic, but so far it takes 3 to 4 weeks to start to feel something. Hopefully over the next month people will start losing some serious fat.
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Yes, this was exactly my point. I'm not going to purchase a supplement based on someones perception of how it makes them feel.
 
T-Bone said:
Yes, this was exactly my point. I'm not going to purchase a supplement based on someones perception of how it makes them feel.
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I think most ppl just like the ability to eat mroe and not get fat lol.

But I get what you mean. I will be testing it, but it wont be stand alone.... my lean bulk might actually turn into a cut... sigh... so much fun I was expecting... now back to eating so little... ; ;
 
T-Bone said:
Yes, this was exactly my point. I'm not going to purchase a supplement based on someones perception of how it makes them feel.
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I agree as well. Very weak posts at best. Some seem to be guessing it's ursobolic. Maybe this product was a little rushed out of the lab to get a head start on the competition but at what expense ?
 
Mission1 said:
I agree as well. Very weak posts at best. Some seem to be guessing it's ursobolic. Maybe this product was a little rushed out of the lab to get a head start on the competition but at what expense ?
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So how do you guys miss stuff like this in the quote
There is SOMETHING going on, I have been really slacking on my diet as well as cardio, yet I am just as lean, maybe even leanER than when I started.

Also... my strength keeps going up... like... every single workout.
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Didn't say felt or thought said there "is " something going on

same here tried megadosing for a week to check out the potential for a miraculous new natural anabolic, but very satisfied with the repartitioning effect instead (at this second wk) 225 lbs and strength continues to increase along with (mirror) observed leaning out. approaching only wk 2!
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Most aren't using this for cutting only but for recomp and pct. If you hold all your weight while becoming leaner, what do think it is that you're losing? Some people see what they want to see, good or bad. I post pics in my log so there is no subjectivity, I'm eating well above maintenance and am not low carbing it and staying lean as can be even after eating carbs all day. People at work and at the gym are always asking if I'm leaning out or losing weight, these are unsolicited comments. Like this Logger

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Quick synopsis of what I've experienced so far:

- Intermittent feelings of body temp increase
- appetite suppression high during the day (1st two weeks)
- increased hunger in the evening (1st two weeks)
- going into 3rd week less appetite overall
- weight has fluctuated slightly, started at 235lbs and 17 days in at 235.4 lbs., but I still have people at work (men and women) saying I look like a lost more weight (leaner?)
- clothes feel even looser, I am currently down an inch in waist size and noticed I look leaner in the upper body, which also shows when wearing certain shirts. I also noticed it in my face (jawline is more defined).
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Waist an inch smaller at same weight.

It takes a while for anything non hormonal to exhibit result except maybe stims.
 
truthornothin said:
So how do you guys miss stuff like this in the quote

Didn't say felt or thought said there "is " something going on



Most aren't using this for cutting only but for recomp and pct. If you hold all your weight while becoming leaner, what do think it is that you're losing? Some people see what they want to see, good or bad. I post pics in my log so there is no subjectivity, I'm eating well above maintenance and am not low carbing it and staying lean as can be even after eating carbs all day. People at work and at the gym are always asking if I'm leaning out or losing weight, these are unsolicited comments. Like this Logger



Waist an inch smaller at same weight.

It takes a while for anything non hormonal to exhibit result except maybe stims.
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So how can you be certain that these small changes are all the result of Ursobolic and not some other supplement or actually hard work with diet and exercise?. These quotes don't prove that Ursobolic does anything, they are just the perceptions of users of the supplement. Just because his waist is down an inch while taking ursobolic doesn't prove that it is because of ursobolic that his waist is down an inch. By the way that guy is also taking OxyElite Pro from UspLabs. He is also on 1200-1500 calories a day.
 
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So how can you be certain that these small changes are all the result of Ursobolic and not some other supplement or actually hard work with diet and exercise?. These quotes don't prove that Ursobolic does anything, they are just the perceptions of users of the supplement. Just because his waist is down an inch while taking ursobolic doesn't prove that it is because of ursobolic that his waist is down an inch. By the way that guy is also taking OxyElite Pro from UspLabs. He is also on 1200-1500 calories a day.
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OxyElite??? really? My brother took that for a month and gained weight. You can't be sure, you can't be sure about anything. I got lean, by going low carb, very low carb, no potatoes no pasta no rice, or sweet fruit. All my carbs came from leafy greens and or cruciferous vegetables. I've stayed lean despite a big calorie jump due to Ursobolic. Take a look at my logged diet, I have added a ****load of carbs. Prior to using the Ursobolic it was a recipe for total smoothing out. It hasn't happened and I am even having cookies here and there pancakes hashbrowns, etc take a look at my log at my last pics I'm leaner than in the first. I do not do cardio, my job is totally sedentary, hell they literally only let me get up to use the jon. I roll around in the 9-11 percent fat range all the time which usually requires major denial in the food area. Not so since I started taking it. I do not take any other fat burners and I added it to an existing supplement set I've been using for over a year. Is it perfect science? No but I am not going to drop everything else(that may actually skew results even more) I have used and established. I have seen amazing partitioning results. No net loss nor gain and I am in pct. No strength loss no size loss no endurance loss, and that's the Truth
 
It is called placebo. If you are eagerly looking for something, chances are you will find it. I'm looking for the I lost X lbs after X days dosing it at x pills a day. You would expect such posts from weightloss supps. Again, not ruling it out but I haven't seen the proof yet.

byw, PA has an article about it in MD.
 
truthornothin said:
OxyElite??? really? My brother took that for a month and gained weight. You can't be sure, you can't be sure about anything. I got lean, by going low carb, very low carb, no potatoes no pasta no rice, or sweet fruit. All my carbs came from leafy greens and or cruciferous vegetables. I've stayed lean despite a big calorie jump due to Ursobolic. Take a look at my logged diet, I have added a ****load of carbs. Prior to using the Ursobolic it was a recipe for total smoothing out. It hasn't happened and I am even having cookies here and there pancakes hashbrowns, etc take a look at my log at my last pics I'm leaner than in the first. I do not do cardio, my job is totally sedentary, hell they literally only let me get up to use the jon. I roll around in the 9-11 percent fat range all the time which usually requires major denial in the food area. Not so since I started taking it. I do not take any other fat burners and I added it to an existing supplement set I've been using for over a year. Is it perfect science? No but I am not going to drop everything else(that may actually skew results even more) I have used and established. I have seen amazing partitioning results. No net loss nor gain and I am in pct. No strength loss no size loss no endurance loss, and that's the Truth
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Truth's log is very good.

Of course ppl are gonna be skeptical, that's why we got ppl like this supporting the product. If EVERYTHING out did what the label claims everyone would be ripped to shreds in no time, and be like that all the time. Some ppl don't even FEEL prohormones. I have a buddy who took 1ad for 4 weeks and PCT'd with milk thistle (Granted this was like in 2001). Said it never really affected him at all. Only thing that went up was his big 3 numbers, by about 200lbs total... I donno where I'm going with this but ursobolic acid is doing what it claims to do for some "REGARDLESS" of diet changes. Could be metabolism changes after dieting, or anything else....but for some it's working. If you are skeptical please ask questions but don't bash the stuff till you try it.
 
fadi said:
It is called placebo. If you are eagerly looking for something, chances are you will find it. I'm looking for the I lost X lbs after X days dosing it at x pills a day. You would expect such posts from weightloss supps. Again, not ruling it out but I haven't seen the proof yet.

byw, PA has an article about it in MD.
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So placebo effect extends to those we come in contact with??? So is there "Mass Placebo" like a mass hallucination. And you know I'm looking at the bottle and doesn't say "weight loss" It says and I quote" Powerful compound for increasing muscle mass and decreasing bodyfat. If you'll look at the Iowa study the mice gained muscle mass and lost body fat, which sha' is what users are reporting, leaning out without losing weight. You need to look up a story I remember as a child in an Alfred Hitch**** Compilation I believe it was called Piecraft. It was about a fat guy literally looking for a magical "weight loss" formula, A witch doctor of sorts provided in and the main character ingested it and became weightless, i.e. he floated like a helium balloon but was still fat. Because what he asked for was a weight loss formula not a fat loss formula. So....you tell me, would you like to lose 20 lbs and look like jelly or stay the same weight or even gain a pound or two and be ripped hard and shredded??? I take lean and heavy over light and chubby any day. I look like I am juicing right now and I'm in pct quite the opposite. My doctor today flat out asked me if I was on steroids when I went in for an injury. This stuff is working for fat loss as intended, you are hung up on the scale I don't even own one but I got mirrors and a camera and neither lies
 
truthornothin said:
So placebo effect extends to those we come in contact with??? So is there "Mass Placebo" like a mass hallucination. And you know I'm looking at the bottle and doesn't say "weight loss" It says and I quote" Powerful compound for increasing muscle mass and decreasing bodyfat. If you'll look at the Iowa study the mice gained muscle mass and lost body fat, which sha' is what users are reporting, leaning out without losing weight. You need to look up a story I remember as a child in an Alfred Hitch**** Compilation I believe it was called Piecraft. It was about a fat guy literally looking for a magical "weight loss" formula, A witch doctor of sorts provided in and the main character ingested it and became weightless, i.e. he floated like a helium balloon but was still fat. Because what he asked for was a weight loss formula not a fat loss formula. So....you tell me, would you like to lose 20 lbs and look like jelly or stay the same weight or even gain a pound or two and be ripped hard and shredded??? I take lean and heavy over light and chubby any day. I look like I am juicing right now and I'm in pct quite the opposite. My doctor today flat out asked me if I was on steroids when I went in for an injury. This stuff is working for fat loss as intended, you are hung up on the scale I don't even own one but I got mirrors and a camera and neither lies
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truthornothin said:
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hehe, thanks for the link!

Haha, everyone in Japan thinks i'm on roids...

BTW, have you seen that 50 first dates movie? With Adam Sandler. I watched it as part of my English club activity and realized that Drew Barrymore's brother is supposedly juicing. I was like... wtf... he's so small... haha!! No wonder america and the world thinks i'm juicing....
 
fadi said:
It is called placebo. If you are eagerly looking for something, chances are you will find it. I'm looking for the I lost X lbs after X days dosing it at x pills a day. You would expect such posts from weightloss supps. Again, not ruling it out but I haven't seen the proof yet.

byw, PA has an article about it in MD.
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weight is little relevance. mirror is a more accurate indicator. also not all using for weight loss, its a multipurpose product dictated by diet and training plans.
 
chedapalooza said:
Hey truth did u post ur Ab info??
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Its coming my man, busy night I'm typing up my log entry now ab entry to follow. I keep my word you can count on that one
 
mattrag said:
hehe, thanks for the link!

Haha, everyone in Japan thinks i'm on roids...

BTW, have you seen that 50 first dates movie? With Adam Sandler. I watched it as part of my English club activity and realized that Drew Barrymore's brother is supposedly juicing. I was like... wtf... he's so small... haha!! No wonder america and the world thinks i'm juicing....
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Yeah I thought that was f'ing hilarious too, I was like really big when that came out and eeeevery body swore I was jacked, I was....on cheeseburgers lol
 
ax1 said:
weight is little relevance. mirror is a more accurate indicator. also not all using for weight loss, its a multipurpose product dictated by diet and training plans.
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EXACTLY!!!and my mirror says DAYUM' MF'er You's Ripped :head:
 
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