Truthornothin's Ursobolic Log The Whole Truth and Nothing But the Truth!

maybe tendonitus truth ive had it, agony... pain originates at the elbow all the way down the forearm nasty as hell mangaged to go on its own after some time
 
miniarnold said:
maybe tendonitus truth ive had it, agony... pain originates at the elbow all the way down the forearm nasty as hell mangaged to go on its own after some time
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Yeah but this is in the back of my arm towards the shoulder and strange things irritate it you'd think since its in the back where the shoulder and tricep meet that pushing movements would irritate it but they do not. Its curling and any motion with my left had pronated. Its driving me nuts.
 
truthornothin said:
Yeah but this is in the back of my arm towards the shoulder and strang thing irritate it you'd think since its in the back where the shoulder and tricep meet that pushing movements would irritate it but they do not. Its curling and any motion with my left had pronated. Its driving me nuts.
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I would say it's your labrum which is what I just had done, but you would notice it more on pressing movements. Possibly then your bicep tendon, which runs into your rotator cuff, although not in the back of your arm. You could have torn an area around it, which would explain the pain during curling. I have a tear in my bicep tendon, but again, pressing aggravates it. You are not using a palms in or palms up grip during pressing, are you?
 
Rucksdaddy said:
I would say it's your labrum which is what I just had done, but you would notice it more on pressing movements. Possibly then your bicep tendon, which runs into your rotator cuff, although not in the back of your arm. You could have torn an area around it, which would explain the pain during curling. I have a tear in my bicep tendon, but again, pressing aggravates it. You are not using a palms in or palms up grip during pressing, are you?
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The pain is not that high and I can do all the labrum injury tests with no pain, Just completed my chest, shoulder and try workout with no ill effect wtf I don't understand what this pain can be???? Its presentation defies logic, I think doc on friday would be wise
 
Rucksdaddy said:
I would say it's your labrum which is what I just had done, but you would notice it more on pressing movements. Possibly then your bicep tendon, which runs into your rotator cuff, although not in the back of your arm. You could have torn an area around it, which would explain the pain during curling. I have a tear in my bicep tendon, but again, pressing aggravates it. You are not using a palms in or palms up grip during pressing, are you?
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Palms up, I've had a complete Bicep tendon rupture, remind me to tell that story, this pain is in the back where the tricep inserts under the delt and the pain radiated down the tricep, I did tons of pressing today and absolutely no aggravations, I pronate my hand and pick up a frying pan and OUCH! In the back of my arm it makes no sense.
 
Day 28

Day 28

Took 3 caps 3 times over the course of the day

Nutrition:

Breakfast:

4 whole eggs
40 grams Oat meal
8 oz V-8 juice
1 pint whole milk



Mid Morning:

50 Grams Whey Protein
40 grams oat starch


Afternoon:
50 grams Whey Protein
43grams Peanuts


Pre Workout:
White Flood
Purple Wraath

Post Workout
50 Grams of whey protein
40 grams oat starch

Dinner:

200 grams grilled chicken
200 grams Beans with tomatoes carrots onions celery and olive oil (Plaki, a Greek dish and a Staple in my diet) i eat this almost every day
1 cup cooked broccoli
1 Otis Spunkmeyer chocolate chip cookie

Pre Bed:
1 cup fiber one and 1 cup whole milk

Workout:

Today was chest shoulders and tris I still have the funky pain so I set out to take it easy.

Chest:

Incline DB Bench Press: 60's x 20, it felt good 70 x 15 still good 80's X 12 85's x 12 90's x 8 x 3
Incline Machine press Two wheels and a quarter on each side, 5 x 12
Crossovers Challenging weight 5 sets of 15

Shoulders:

Hammer Strength Shoulder press machine 80per side x 12 90per side x 10 100 per side x 10 110 per side x 8
Cable laterals challenging weight 5 x 12 each side
Shoulder lateral machine; 80 x 12 x 4

Triceps: Seated dip machine to stack x 10 x 4
Nose breaker Simulator: 70 x 15 80 X 12 90 x 1o x 3
Push downs - warmed up well and went to stack 3 x 12

Triceps fried and pain free elbows a little iffy. but better. wound up not doing light easy work out other than DB inclines a little lighter than normal. I did forgo DB over heads due to the curling motion to get them up. I used Hammer strength machine instead. Back of my arm did not bother me at all, but came home and picked up pots and pans and if my hand was pronated it hurt like hell.

Observations: My strength is good and muscles are growing everything feels and looks fuller. Still eating whatever I want, and enjoying it. My work out was amazing even with the twinges, my triceps were swole to bursting and chest was pumped as hell. almost a month in. Curious to see what the next month will hold.
 
I've been paying attention to this substance before it was being produces as a supplement. If it truly works on the igf gene some how it would illicit similar results as you would expect from hgh. It is still a very new compound and will have to stand the test of time but it looks very promising. Your results and the other user accounts are about what you would expect from someone taking a hgh/igf type peptide the first time. Im curious if anyones noticed better sleep quality or skin looking better?
 
chess315 said:
I've been paying attention to this substance before it was being produces as a supplement. If it truly works on the igf gene some how it would illicit similar results as you would expect from hgh. It is still a very new compound and will have to stand the test of time but it looks very promising. Your results and the other user accounts are about what you would expect from someone taking a hgh/igf type peptide the first time. Im curious if anyones noticed better sleep quality or skin looking better?
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Just started today. Will look out for these.. I usually have awful sleep.. Skin is usually fine though..
 
chess315 said:
I've been paying attention to this substance before it was being produces as a supplement. If it truly works on the igf gene some how it would illicit similar results as you would expect from hgh. It is still a very new compound and will have to stand the test of time but it looks very promising. Your results and the other user accounts are about what you would expect from someone taking a hgh/igf type peptide the first time. Im curious if anyones noticed better sleep quality or skin looking better?
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I haven't noticed anything like that but I haven't been looking. I Sleep well anyway, I have not noticed the extreme dreams that I have with ghrp 2 and 6 I have noticed that my hair and nails appear to be growing faster.
 
truthornothin said:
The pain is not that high and I can do all the labrum injury tests with no pain, Just completed my chest, shoulder and try workout with no ill effect wtf I don't understand what this pain can be???? Its presentation defies logic, I think doc on friday would be wise
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When I tore my labrum I could not do standard pressing (palms down), but if I turned my palms up or facing each other, I could press without pain. You injury is a mystery. Seeing the doc is probably a good idea, specifically an orthopedic. They can give you an MRI, or even better, an arteriogram which will pinpoint a tear if it exists.
 
chess315 said:
I've been paying attention to this substance before it was being produces as a supplement. If it truly works on the igf gene some how it would illicit similar results as you would expect from hgh. It is still a very new compound and will have to stand the test of time but it looks very promising. Your results and the other user accounts are about what you would expect from someone taking a hgh/igf type peptide the first time. Im curious if anyones noticed better sleep quality or skin looking better?
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I've been sleeping like a rock the last couple of days. Will keep an eye out if it continues.
Usually crappy sleep :(
 
Today is my 30th day on Ursobolic. I started at 8/day for the first week. Went to 12/day for the next two weeks and this last week I went back to 9/day. I have me using UA on a maintenance diet which includes one cheat day/week. To be perfectly honest I can't say that I've noticed much if any overall improvement. My strength is about the same. My weight is the same as is my overall definition. I do seem to have slightly better muscle fullness but my baseline measurements are all the same. I still have a couple of bottles left. I will continue to use them until they are gone. I have heard that it sometimes takes about 30 days to begin to see results.
 
BBB said:
Today is my 30th day on Ursobolic. I started at 8/day for the first week. Went to 12/day for the next two weeks and this last week I went back to 9/day. I have me using UA on a maintenance diet which includes one cheat day/week. To be perfectly honest I can't say that I've noticed much if any overall improvement. My strength is about the same. My weight is the same as is my overall definition. I do seem to have slightly better muscle fullness but my baseline measurements are all the same. I still have a couple of bottles left. I will continue to use them until they are gone. I have heard that it sometimes takes about 30 days to begin to see results.
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I eat a lot of fat and I think that is why I am having the success I am with the product. How much fat are you taking it with. What was your starting bf% mine is always pretty low so its easy to spot differences one way or the other
 
I typically follow a moderate fat, low (simple) carb diet. I have been taking extra fat with each serving of UA for the last few weeks. Somtimes in the form of fish oil and somtimes in the form of food. My body fat is around 14% although I haven't checked it in a while.
 
Improved sleep would be good, am a s**t sleeper,
when are you weighing nxt truth think you should keep a record of this to see how it changes based on how your physique is looking also will give you a better idea of the extent of the recomp, same day and condidtions each week is best if doing it weekly
 
miniarnold said:
Improved sleep would be good, am a s**t sleeper,
when are you weighing nxt truth think you should keep a record of this to see how it changes based on how your physique is looking also will give you a better idea of the extent of the recomp, same day and condidtions each week is best if doing it weekly
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Yesterday at the gym ! weighed 203.5 lbs that's 92.3kgs for the rest of the world, will try to post weight on Wednesdays, we'll call it weigh in Wednesdays, How's that?
 
I am constantly on some form of test booster. I rotate them to keep from keep them from loosing effiacy to quickly. I'm currently using Vitasupps knock-off version of BioForge V3. I'm only on day 3 but sleep has been much improved since I started using this product. My energy and mood throughout the day is also much better.
 
BBB said:
I am constantly on some form of test booster. I rotate them to keep from keep them from loosing effiacy to quickly. I'm currently using Vitasupps knock-off version of BioForge V3. I'm only on day 3 but sleep has been much improved since I started using this product. My energy and mood throughout the day is also much better.
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I usually sleep like a rock anyway.
 
Another interesting study and benefit of Ursolic acid


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Ursolic acid protects diabetic mice against monocyte dysfunction and accelerated atherosclerosis.

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Department of Biochemistry, University of Texas Health Science Center at San Antonio, San Antonio, TX 78229-3900, United States.

Abstract

AIMS:

Accelerated atherosclerosis is a major diabetic complication initiated by the enhanced recruitment of monocytes into the vasculature. In this study, we examined the therapeutic potential of the phytonutrients ursolic acid (UA) and resveratrol (RES) in preventing monocyte recruitment and accelerated atherosclerosis.
METHODS AND RESULTS:

Dietary supplementation with either RES or UA (0.2%) protected against accelerated atherosclerosis induced by streptozotocin in high-fat diet-fed LDL receptor-deficient mice. However, mice that received dietary UA for 11 weeks were significantly better protected and showed a 53% reduction in lesion formation while mice fed a RES-supplemented diet showed only a 31% reduction in lesion size. Importantly, UA was also significantly more effective in preventing the appearance of proinflammatory GR-1(high) monocytes induced by these diabetic conditions and reducing monocyte recruitment into MCP-1-loaded Matrigel plugs implanted into these diabetic mice. Oxidatively stressed THP-1 monocytes mimicked the behavior of blood monocytes in diabetic mice and showed enhanced responsiveness to monocyte chemoattractant protein-1 (MCP-1) without changing MCP-1 receptor (CCR2) surface expression. Pretreatment of THP-1 monocytes with RES or UA (0.3-10μM) for 15h resulted in the dose-dependent inhibition of H(2)O(2)-accelerated chemotaxis in response to MCP-1, but with an IC(50) of 0.4μM, UA was 2.7-fold more potent than RES.
CONCLUSION:

Dietary UA is a potent inhibitor of monocyte dysfunction and accelerated atherosclerosis induced by diabetes. These studies identify ursolic acid as a potential therapeutic agent for the treatment of diabetic complications, including accelerated atherosclerosis, and provide a novel mechanism for the anti-atherogenic properties of ursolic acid.
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Very interesting study
 
BBB said:
I have seen one study showing just the opposite effect.
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So have I, its actually from the same journal and the one I posted is the latest one
 
One of the more positive benefits I've noticed with UA is that it has lowered my BP significantly. It's normally boderline high (132/80) in the late afternoon after a stressful day. However, while on UA it has stayed around 120/72 throughout the day. Most likey do to the diuretic effect of UA..
 
BBB said:
One of the more positive benefits I've noticed with UA is that it has lowered my BP significantly. It's normally boderline high (132/80) in the late afternoon after a stressful day. However, while on UA it has stayed around 120/72 throughout the day. Most likey do to the diuretic effect of UA..
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Yes it has been shown in medical studies to reduce high blood pressure, mine is borderline Hypertensive as well due to my overwhelming stress level Ursobolic has helped in that regard. See the attached study
Cardiovascular, antihyperlipidemic and antioxidant effects of oleanolic and ursolic acids in experimental hypertension

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Available online 10 November 2004.


[h=4]Summary[/h]Cardiovascular (systolic and diastolic blood pressure, heart rate), antihyperlipidemic (tryglycerides, total cholesterol and lipoprotein fractions), antioxidant (glutathione peroxidase – GPx, and superoxide dismutase – SOD), diuretic/saluretic and hypoglycemic activity of 98% pure oleanolic (OA) and ursolic (UA) acid were studied in Dahl salt-sensitive (DSS), insulin resistant rat model of genetic hypertension. Both OAand UA displayed low toxicity, with LC[SUB]50[/SUB] 0.10 and 0.95 mg/ml, respectively. Although both triterpenoids did not have direct hypotensive effect, after 6-week application in a daily dose 60 mg/kg b.w., i.p., they prevented the development of severe hypertension. The antihypertensive effect was attributed to their potent diuretic-natriuretic-saluretic activity; direct cardiac effect (heart rate decrease by 34% and 32%, respectively); antihyperlipidemic (more than two times decrease of LDLand triglycerides); antioxidant (GPx increase by 12% and 10%, respectively;SOD increase by 12% and 22%, respectively), and hypoglycemic (blood glucose decrease by 20% and 50%, respectively) effects on the DSSrats. Except for the antihyperlipidemic effects, the other described above in vivoantihypertensive effects of OAand UAare reported for the first time and the underlying mechanisms are currently under investigation.





Key words: oleanic acid; ursolic acid; experimental hypertension; salt-sensitivity; insulin resistance




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O wow to lowering bp!! Mines been steadily rising also due to extreme stress.. Normally 110/60 or 70.. Recently been 115-120/80.. Hopefully some changes I've made along with adding urso will be helpful! 2 days in.. Nothing drastic to note.. Diet n training has been rockin past two weeks and leaning nicely while getting bigger n stronger! Hopefully I'll notice the great effects you have, truth
 
chedapalooza said:
O wow to lowering bp!! Mines been steadily rising also due to extreme stress.. Normally 110/60 or 70.. Recently been 115-120/80.. Hopefully some changes I've made along with adding urso will be helpful! 2 days in.. Nothing drastic to note.. Diet n training has been rockin past two weeks and leaning nicely while getting bigger n stronger! Hopefully I'll notice the great effects you have, truth
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Yeah stress is a bitch, my job is unecessarily stress filled, my personal life lately has only compounded the issue.Don't expect too much until week two, I am an early responder to all things good and bad. Stims like wreck me I have to take half the normal dose, except coffee I drink it by the gallon, but cold medicines, pain medicines, everything hits me harder than normal. Its like my natural equilibrium is delicate....that's the only thing about me that is.
 
The BP effect could be from the anti inflammatory effect.

Interesting though.

Man truth, a gallon of coffee but stims hurt you? Lol. That's insane.
 
Day 29

Day 29

Took 3 caps 3 times over the course of the day

Nutrition:

Breakfast:

4 whole eggs
40 grams corn grits
8 oz V-8 juice
1 pint whole milk



Mid Morning:

50 Grams Whey Protein
40 grams oat starch
43 grams peanuts

Afternoon:
50 grams Whey Protein
50 grams oat starch
43grams Peanuts


Dinner:

220 grams grilled chicken
230 grams Beans with tomatoes carrots onions celery and olive oil (Plaki, a Greek dish and a Staple in my diet) i eat this almost every day
1 cup cooked broccoli
1 Otis Spunkmeyer chocolate white chocolate chip cookie
1 piece of biscotti

Pre Bed:
1 cup fiber one and 1 cup whole milk


Observations: Today was my workout day off. Still eating a lot more than normal Still lean and driving all the young girls crazy lol well maybe not...but I am lean at least lol I noticed my sleep is deeper in that I have trouble waking up when the alarm goes off, however I amd not having increased dreaming as on would expect if gh was being released. My strength and endurance are good and my pecs and shoulders really seem to be thicker. weight is about the same. I am enjoying all my extra food but I have let my diet get a touch sloppy, I think I'll pull out the junk ...as soon a I finish my biscotti, they are home made specifically for me and she sent me a lot! Glad at least now I won't have to worry too much about the impact lol any questions ask. A lot of folks at the gym am in pms have been asking what I do for my abs. Perhaps tomorrow I'll give away my secret, the Truth about abs.....lol
 
mattrag said:
The BP effect could be from the anti inflammatory effect.

Interesting though.

Man truth, a gallon of coffee but stims hurt you? Lol. That's insane.
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Yeah ephedra totally kicks my ass geranimine I can tolerate but it make me a tad jittery and hurts my stomach a tad, for some reason Clearshot doesn't hurt my stomach, it could very well be the ginger extract, as ginger is a gastro protectant and Clearshot will kick you in the seat of the pants its like a turbo charger. I literally drink 20 cups of coffee a day with half and half. Maybe thats why I cannot handle stims.... my bloodstream is pretty much liquid caffeine lol.
 
truthornothin said:
Yeah ephedra totally kicks my ass geranimine I can tolerate but it make me a tad jittery and hurts my stomach a tad, for some reason Clearshot doesn't hurt my stomach, it could very well be the ginger extract, and ginger is a gastro protectant and Clearshot will kick you in the seat of the pants its like a turbo charger. I literally drink 20 cups of coffee a day with half and half. Maybe thats why I cannot handle stims.... my bloodstream is pretty much liquid caffeine lol.
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Man. That's the ab secret eh? Caffeinate the blood stream and add half and half to keep the caffeine alive longer through inhibiting the liver from taken away it's thunder. Haha.
 
mattrag said:
Man. That's the ab secret eh? Caffeinate the blood stream and add half and half to keep the caffeine alive longer through inhibiting the liver from taken away it's thunder. Haha.
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Drop Ursobolic on that and BOOM!! F'in six pack! lol
 
mattrag said:
The man has spoken!
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Too funny, I do have a secret regarding abs and no one ever believes me when I tell them what I do for abs, they think you should have to work harder to get them. the Truth is less is more. They get almost as mad as they do when I tell them I do 0 cardio that's right nada ! My ab routine tomorrow or as I like to call it "The Truth About Abs" ROFLMFAO
 
truthornothin said:
Too funny, I do have a secret regarding abs and no one ever believes me when I tell them what I do for abs, they think you should have to work harder to get them. the Truth is less is more. They get almost as mad as they do when I tell them I do 0 cardio that's right nada ! My ab routine tomorrow or as I like to call in "The Truth About Abs" ROFLMFAO
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Haha. Well I don't think cardio is needed for definition. It'll help. But if your diet is on track you should be fine.

My diet... Is not so good I think. I'm gonna revamp it. My whole gut healing effort is moot point. Sigh...
 
mattrag said:
Haha. Well I don't think cardio is needed for definition. It'll help. But if your diet is on track you should be fine.

My diet... Is not so good I think. I'm gonna revamp it. My whole gut healing effort is moot point. Sigh...
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Didn't you say you had a hernia, hows that healing?
 
truthornothin said:
Didn't you say you had a hernia, hows that healing?
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Umbilcal hernia. Got a small hole in around my belly button. And when my intestines swell from the ingestion of milk or wheats it can pop out.
It makes having these allergies even worse. It's good as long as I stat away from those foods. But if I try to lift after eating those type foods the area can bleed. Not fun at all.

Maybe I'll follow the truths diet for a while. Get some whey protein. I was able to eat that in the past.
 
mattrag said:
Umbilcal hernia. Got a small hole in around my belly button. And when my intestines swell from the ingestion of milk or wheats it can pop out.
It makes having these allergies even worse. It's good as long as I stat away from those foods. But if I try to lift after eating those type foods the area can bleed. Not fun at all.

Maybe I'll follow the truths diet for a while. Get some whey protein. I was able to eat that in the past.
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I hate to here that friend. I see from your logs you hit it hard regardless. I respect that. I train through and around injuries most wouldn't, I hat not working out and I hat not working out hard worse. My Diet? Whey protein I'm a believer Its never done me wrong, I'm a big believer in whole eggs too, there are so many nutrients in the yolk its idiotic to toss it. Hope the hernia doesn't give you too much trouble. I gotta get myself to bed I have to be up in 5 hours. Have a good one man always good to have you post. If I ever make it to Hawaii I'll make you make good on meeting me for Poke' and Brews :beerchug:
 
THATS good mate, once a week is cool but on same day each week under same conditions like 1st thing in the morn upon waking b4 food and drink (as accurate as weighing can be)
so you put a lb or 2 back on from when you said you lost weight and now back to the same starting weight but still leaner and bigger?
 
truthornothin said:
I hate to here that friend. I see from your logs you hit it hard regardless. I respect that. I train through and around injuries most wouldn't, I hat not working out and I hat not working out hard worse. My Diet? Whey protein I'm a believer Its never done me wrong, I'm a big believer in whole eggs too, there are so many nutrients in the yolk its idiotic to toss it. Hope the hernia doesn't give you too much trouble. I gotta get myself to bed I have to be up in 5 hours. Have a good one man always good to have you post. If I ever make it to Hawaii I'll make you make good on meeting me for Poke' and Brews :beerchug:
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yea we can go and get some poke and some nice beers (or whatever your drink of choice is), and hit up the beach
Hopefully by then Ill be ripped to shreds year round. ;)

Truth diet lol. I like it.
 
Glad I read this log to see the dosing on this product since the bottle says to take 3-6 caps per day. I guess that would be underdosing it.
 
miniarnold said:
THATS good mate, once a week is cool but on same day each week under same conditions like 1st thing in the morn upon waking b4 food and drink (as accurate as weighing can be)
so you put a lb or 2 back on from when you said you lost weight and now back to the same starting weight but still leaner and bigger?
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The weight loss was miniscule and I think I stated that my weight varied a pound or two daily related to carb and or sodium intake. I don't own a scale so same day and same time is best I can do. My day is extremely regimented so I eat and go to the gym same time everyday so things should be close. So I am basically the same weight while eating a lot more
 
mattrag said:
yea we can go and get some poke and some nice beers (or whatever your drink of choice is), and hit up the beach
Hopefully by then Ill be ripped to shreds year round. ;)

Truth diet lol. I like it.
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Yes Poke, beers and beach sounds splendid, get on the Truth Diet and You'll be shredded fo' sho' lol I love beer used to brew my own. I am afraid I may have to return to the "Truth Diet" as I fear I have a rotator cuff injury, I am going to rest it a couple of days and return my diet to its pre Ursobolic state. If I do in fact have to lay off the gym. We'll see the doc tomorrow but signs aren't good Dammit !!!
 
truthornothin said:
The weight loss was miniscule and I think I stated that my weight varied a pound or two daily related to carb and or sodium intake. I don't own a scale so same day and same time is best I can do. My day is extremely regimented so I eat and go to the gym same time everyday so things should be close. So I am basically the same weight while eating a lot more
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The best situation there can ever be ;)

Wheres the truth about abs? lol
 
truthornothin said:
Yeah stress is a bitch, my job is unecessarily stress filled, my personal life lately has only compounded the issue.Don't expect too much until week two, I am an early responder to all things good and bad. Stims like wreck me I have to take half the normal dose, except coffee I drink it by the gallon, but cold medicines, pain medicines, everything hits me harder than normal. Its like my natural equilibrium is delicate....that's the only thing about me that is.
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Lol stims I'm like immune to but if I even take nyquil or half of a xanex I'm worthless the entire next day.. All about those uppers!! Lol
 
Also can't wait to hear the truth about abs

Currently i do::::

Monday - hanging legraises supersetted w rope crunches, then I do revere crunches supersetted w Swiss ball crunches and side cable crunches all 3 sets of 15-25 each

Wed - I do pullovers (make sure I feel it in the stomach) weighted decline crunches+twists, reg legraises ss w Swiss ball pikes, stick twists

Th - all obliques, db side bends, cable twists, overhead weighted side bends

Sat I don't go to gym but do a non weighted AB circuit when I wake up which totals 4-500 total reps split between 4-5 different AB workouts, takes about 7 minutes.

It works.. It's a lot.. Coul I do less and get sane or better results?? Idk bc I'm scared to find out lol

Trying to upload pics from ohone but no dice.. Can try from comp later! But at 23.. U put me to shame truth! I would say it's diet , but you're a cheater! Lol

I should be so lucky years from now.. I used to be a fat 190 didn't leave the couch.. Unless it was to get more food. Ten I struggled w anorexia, Down to 94 pounds. Now I'm rockin **** at 160-175 depending on time if year/goals. I should texhinicallly be bulking and eating a lot more .. But right now I'm gonna try to stay as lean as a can and just roll w slow gains.. Cutting sucks lol!
 
mattrag said:
The best situation there can ever be ;)

Wheres the truth about abs? lol
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Yeah not a bad deal. I am afraid about this how rotator cuff thing is going to affect my workouts, My best guess self diagnosis is strain or small tear in the teres minor or the teres major or both. The pain presents itself in some weird ways. The "Truth" about abs is tonite good sir I make good on my promises. be patient. I have a Dr's appointment this afternoon and that'll probably mean I'll work out at home tonite, I have a power rack and a 1000lbs plus of weight, so I'll get a simple yet effective work out here unless the doc advises against it.
 
chedapalooza said:
Also can't wait to hear the truth about abs

Currently i do::::

Monday - hanging legraises supersetted w rope crunches, then I do revere crunches supersetted w Swiss ball crunches and side cable crunches all 3 sets of 15-25 each

Wed - I do pullovers (make sure I feel it in the stomach) weighted decline crunches+twists, reg legraises ss w Swiss ball pikes, stick twists

Th - all obliques, db side bends, cable twists, overhead weighted side bends

Sat I don't go to gym but do a non weighted AB circuit when I wake up which totals 4-500 total reps split between 4-5 different AB workouts, takes about 7 minutes.

It works.. It's a lot.. Coul I do less and get sane or better results?? Idk bc I'm scared to find out lol

Trying to upload pics from ohone but no dice.. Can try from comp later! But at 23.. U put me to shame truth! I would say it's diet , but you're a cheater! Lol

I should be so lucky years from now.. I used to be a fat 190 didn't leave the couch.. Unless it was to get more food. Ten I struggled w anorexia, Down to 94 pounds. Now I'm rockin **** at 160-175 depending on time if year/goals. I should texhinicallly be bulking and eating a lot more .. But right now I'm gonna try to stay as lean as a can and just roll w slow gains.. Cutting sucks lol!
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It is mostly about diet I used to be a fat 300 lbs see my fat pics this thread, they were me at about 275, I got bigger. You currently do WAAAAAAAAAY too much ab work IMO, you are gonna be sick when I tell you my ab workout. I'm gonna save you enough time to take up a hobby lol. Stay tuned tonight for ....../."The Truth About Abs" Also thanks for the compliments, I do work really hard and it does get harder as I get older. But I don't really see myself getting anything but better :wink1:
 
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Glad I read this log to see the dosing on this product since the bottle says to take 3-6 caps per day. I guess that would be underdosing it.
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Glad the log helped, there is a lot of good information in here, also make sure to take the Ursobolic with a good about of fat 6-12 grams
 
Day 30

Nutrition:

Ursobolic: 3 x 3

Breakfast:

240 grams ground beef grilled
30 grams rice (pre cooked weight)
8 oz V-8 juice
1 cup whole milk

7cups coffee, 3/4 cup half and half (have not been logging this assume from the beginning)

Mid Morning:

50 Grams Whey Protein
30 grams oat starch
Snack Crackers 250 calories worth

Mid Afternoon:

50 Grams of Whey Protein
snack crackers

Evening Feed:

50 Grams of protein
30 grams oat starch

Snack:
30 grams dark chocolate and 4 tablespoons natty peanut butter

Dinner:

200 grams Chicken souvlaki chicken marinated in lemon juice and olive oil
200 grams beans with tomatoes celery, onions and olive oil


Pre bed:

1 cup fiber one
one cup whole milk

Workout day off due to injury:

Observations

That's right, went to doc she said no gym today dammit!!!! she said no gym for 4 weeks, Truth says no F'ing way!!! I bargained and asked if I could do exercises that didn't cause discomfort. She said if it didn't hurt, then I could do it but made me promise no squats today as the strain would be too much. I hate down time. According to the Doc its a teres minor or teres major problem already figured that out so waste of $20 Well she did give me free meds, so that would be worth the $20

Its a lock no back work for a while cannot isolate the lats from that injury, almost every other group I can work in some manner, I won't be able to go all out Truth style, But I will work out, intelligently so as not to injure myself further. So now we will see the aspect of Ursolic acid that the Iowa study was conducted for. Muscle retention and prevention of muscle wasting. I hope this proves out like the muscle building fat loss properties have. I am going to start scaling back my calories a tad or actually just changing the make up going back to high protein moderate fat and low carbs. At least until I can attack my workouts with my usual ferocity. Skyped someone that hadn't seen me in a while and she stated my traps looked much larger as did my upper chest. Not in my log where I stated I have been targeting my upper chest and after only two workouts I could see a difference. It has been 3 or four not and the difference is obvious. And noticed by another without me asking an opinion. So not a placebo unless the placebo effect extends to those around me but that would be Psychobolic lol. Ok you guys digest this and I'm going to work on "The Truth About Abs"
 
This will be an interesting test. Seeing you really have no choice but not to work as hard as you been working. See if ursobolic helps you retain muscle and keep the fat off while being a bit less active.

Hopefully, you can rehab it yourself. Look online for remedies, mobility work etc. I helped a friend who broke his shoulder up here and actually lost his ability to separate his traps movement from his shoulder.. imagine feeling that your rear and middle delt are STUCk to your traps. That's what he had, we did mobility work daily and some resistance 2-3 times a week. He made it back to mobility within 3 months (he thought was slow, but his doc said he can never lift weight again).
 
The Truth About Abs

The Truth About Abs

I learned the truth about abs a long time ago, in a gym in Marietta a real gym a man's gym Cagle's Gym, it smelled like iron rust and blood. It was filled with grunting dedicated beasts serious body builders and power lifters. Not a speck of visible chrome, I was a scrawny 175 pound 23 year old Trying to get big like my hero Arnold, and no clue on how to do it. I was doing endless crunches when this massively ripped dude said What the F' are you doing I said "Abs" He said "****ing no your not, all your working are your Goddamn hip flexors," I had labored for years under the impression that the way to a six pack was lots and lots of crunches sit ups and leg raises. I had a line down the center of my stomach so I had a two pack. He told me that I was never going to get ripped abs like that He told me to look at the Guiness Book of World Records and look at the word record holder for sit ups. Next time I was at the Mall I did just that and was amazed the guy could do like 2000 sit ups and had a jelly belly. I went back to the gym and asked for his help and this is when I learned the truth about abs and why almost everyone works them the wrong way.

Your abs are like any other muscle, they work hard all day holding up your torso and holding in your guts. So to get them to grow you have to challenge them. But even that is not the key. Even fat guys have abs you just cant see them. Every one reading this has same thing. You have to cut the fat to see the abs. Endless ab work is not going give you visible abs its very poor at fat burning so don't do it. Work large muscle groups intensely that burns fat. Diet, you won't ever see your abs if you don't have a good diet, gotta get the body fat in the very low double digits leaning into the singles. That is step one. Now the much sought after and vaunted Truth's Ab program, Hold onto your jock cuz' your gonna be shocked here it comes.

1 Decline ab chair/bench(in my early bb days they called it a roman chair,
Sets = 2 yes that's right 2 x failure

2. Ab coaster 2 sets to failure each side if you do not have an ab coaster I do oblique crunches on the ab ball 2 sets to failure both sides

That's it take 4- 5 minutes and you've seen my abs it works and I only do this routine 3-4 times a week tops

Now there will be a lot of doubters but I swear to God that's all I do.

Ok.... but this is how I do those sets, On the ab bench, put a foam block under the leg end to make the angle as steep as possible.
I go very slow, the tendency is to go fast and furious with plenty of momentum. I use no momentum, Very slow. The other tendency is to use your hip flexors to pull your body up and your body comes up straight. When you are coming up think about driving your ribs into your abs Curl your body into as much of an arc as you can, and when you get to the top, unroll down as slow as your rolled up. If your can do more than 30 you are not going slow enough, at the end of your second set they will be burning like fire.

On the ab coaster, people that just go fast and furious get nothing out of that, I turn it to the side, as I use it to work the obliques, Same thing slow up and hold it, slow down, the switch sides and do the same for the other side. I load it with 3 ten pounders a side. If you do not have access any machine you can set for the obliques will work, just use enough weight to make it challenging at 20 reps and go as slow as possible. The total routine if you can call it that is five minutes. In the summer I do a set of hanging leg raises, again slow and controlled just to get the "money maker a little more chiseled.

I know you are disappointed but you shouldn't be, look at all the time I'm saving you. Remember its time under tension that builds muscles, you want added resistance and you want added time. Your abs receive work all day over training them only stunts the growth. Actually let me lay to rest a little misconception. The abs are really a sheet of muscle, the cuts you see are caused by tendons that lay across the sheet and the sheet bulges around the tendons giving the impression of separate muscles. You want the muscle to grow so it will bulge around the tendons more. What builds muscle size? endless reps and sets? No just like other muscles fewer more intense sets with higher weight gives maximum growth, just like a bicep.

So there you go, my closely guarded secret just cuz' I like you guys. lol

Any questions feel free
 
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