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GUT CHECK! Gettin my system top notch with Gut Health (Sponsored)

OrganicShadow

OrganicShadow

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I've never tried any Genomyx products until now with the generosity of the AN Genomyx team to hook it up with Gut Health.
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Here's the scenario:
I'm currently finishing up a weeks downtime from the gym after competition. Jumpin back on the horse this week up coming but still taking time off supplementation. Gut Health and Glycobol are the only 2 products (besides the essentials: BCAA, Fish Oil, Multi) that I will be taking. IM not running any sports products for now - I wanna deload and detox.

As far as pictures... uhhhh, I really dont think you wanna SEE my progress lol. I'll be as discriptive as I can without getting grimey.

Although I would like to just post pictures for the hell of it - Im taking theme suggestions. Maybe pictures of my meals? Im a decent cook.

As a medical laboratory scientist and science geek - I'll be posting information on these microorganisms from time to time so you can learn some biology!


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I started taking Gut Health on Wednesday, just one cap in the morning. That first trip to the bathroom - PHEW!!! Those little bugs certainly wanted to make a statement that they're there. Felt great.

Over the next couple days I kept the same dosing at 1 cap daily in the morning. Now I havent been keeping a strict diet and eating things I wouldnt normally have in my paleo style. Generally I get pains and bloating as my system responds back to me saying "WTF is this? Cheese? What do I do with this? I dont know how to break this down." Ive been pretty steady on metabolizing even some of the harder things I havent had in a while - red meat for example.

Over the last two days I was a bit gassy - but it would dissipate quickly and certainly didnt have that power packed aroma as the first day - virtually odorless.
 
In for this bro,

I wanted to give this a try with the next order, will be nice to see
how it treats you, especially 'cause I'm running essentials and glycobol only
as well

Oh, in for the meals pix (only if low carbs tho', don't tease me :D )

Every 2/3 weeks on my refeed day,I do try to up the carbs a bit (50 to 70gr, clean),
but I do get bloated, my body really seems to hate them cabs, the cheese example you gave,
same thing, but with everything that's carb.
It seems this one could help a bit?
 
OrganicShadow said:
Although I would like to just post pictures for the hell of it - Im taking theme suggestions. Maybe pictures of my meals? Im a decent cook.

As a medical laboratory scientist and science geek - I'll be posting information on these microorganisms from time to time so you can learn some biology!
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i'm all for food porn!

also will be interested to see any science-based posts you have planned...

just out of curiosity, and related to the above, how did you decide on taking one cap/day as opposed to the recommended "loading phase"?
 
Im also loggin this. Dont know exactly what to report. I have a pretty bad digestive track...Hopefully we will both have good results on this product ;)
 
mattrag said:
Im also loggin this. Dont know exactly what to report. I have a pretty bad digestive track...Hopefully we will both have good results on this product ;)
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it's a tough one to log, to be sure... not as boring as a multi-vitamin (yes, some companies offer this) and not as exciting as a heavily-stimulated pre-workout. in order to fully realize GH's benefits, the user must be physiologically aware. meaning, there are benefits aside from correcting digestive/GI issues as GH would play a role from optimizing digestion/nutrient uptake all the way to mood/cognitive benefits.

there have been a couple of instances of users with high stimulant tolerances that cite improved response after GH usage.

link to your log?
 
Smitty77 said:
it's a tough one to log, to be sure... not as boring as a multi-vitamin (yes, some companies offer this) and not as exciting as a heavily-stimulated pre-workout. in order to fully realize GH's benefits, the user must be physiologically aware. meaning, there are benefits aside from correcting digestive/GI issues as GH would play a role from optimizing digestion/nutrient uptake all the way to mood/cognitive benefits.

there have been a couple of instances of users with high stimulant tolerances that cite improved response after GH usage.

link to your log?
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Hmm I pretty sure I linked it on the main logging forum. Should've pm'ed it to ya. I'll post it here and pm you tomorrow. I'm on my phone now so I can't link...
 
mattrag said:
Hmm I pretty sure I linked it on the main logging forum. Should've pm'ed it to ya. I'll post it here and pm you tomorrow. I'm on my phone now so I can't link...
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no worries, i'll seek it out... just want to make sure all of the reps are aware.
 
The log looks great so far! I'm glad that your not posting pictures. For once I don't want to see befor and afters.

As far as recomp goes gut health really keeps me from being bloated so I can " look " more lean all day regardless what I have recently eaten. Not to mention it really reduces gas from high protein diets.
 
MM11 said:
The log looks great so far! I'm glad that your not posting pictures. For once I don't want to see befor and afters.

As far as recomp goes gut health really keeps me from being bloated so I can " look " more lean all day regardless what I have recently eaten. Not to mention it really reduces gas from high protein diets.
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After really upping my protein since the beginning of the year now that I'm training full force again my roommates couldn't be any happier. It was starting to get bad mang. Plus it helps me feel less bloated after the copious amounts of calories I down post workout now. :p
 
Here we go, if anyone else wants to follow this product through it's journey in my body ;)

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AutoKal47 said:
In for this bro,

I wanted to give this a try with the next order, will be nice to see
how it treats you, especially 'cause I'm running essentials and glycobol only
as well

Oh, in for the meals pix (only if low carbs tho', don't tease me :D )
Every 2/3 weeks on my refeed day,I do try to up the carbs a bit (50 to 70gr, clean),
but I do get bloated, my body really seems to hate them cabs, the cheese example you gave,
same thing, but with everything that's carb.
It seems this one could help a bit?
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Even though Ive entered my "bulk season" im relatively low carb in my planned diet - just not a big carb eater. Only in the morning and surrounding my workouts. Yes, absolutely, dairy gets my insides churning but ive been ok with it when ive enjoyed some dirty meals this week.


And yeah, Genomyx has pro looking labels. It fascinates me.
Smitty77 said:
i'm all for food porn!

also will be interested to see any science-based posts you have planned...

just out of curiosity, and related to the above, how did you decide on taking one cap/day as opposed to the recommended "loading phase"?
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Ive had it in my head today to bust out the micro books and relearn somethings. Its been a while and could use the refresher course.
DAMN! I had a feeling there was gonna be a loading phase of some sort and I just didnt follow instructions.. Hrmph.

itzDodge said:
After really upping my protein since the beginning of the year now that I'm training full force again my roommates couldn't be any happier. It was starting to get bad mang. Plus it helps me feel less bloated after the copious amounts of calories I down post workout now. :p
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I wasnt too good on damage control this past week of downtime. I will say any bloaty discomfort from food or a copious amount of food dissipated much faster than I would normally expect of myself.

I'm a bit more frequent to relive myself today. Jumping back on to a clean diet and moving into a weight gain phase:
Tuesday/Thursday
(5AM)>30min fasted cardio
(5:30)>4 egg whites w/ spinach, 1/2c steel cut oats, 1 c green tea
(7:00)>1 scoops whey w/coffee before work
(9:30)>5-6oz lean white poultry or fish, 1c green vegetables
(12:30)>Same as above
(4:00)>Same as above
(6:30)> Off training days, same as above
On training days, 2 scoops whey, BCAA's, 1 banana, a tsp of sesame oil and if im cycling a preworkout
(Postworkout)> BCAA's, 5-6oz fish, 1 sweet potato or 1/2c brown rice
(9:30)> 2oz tuna, apple cider vinegar, salad greens and veggies
(10:30)>Bed time

Saturdays and Sundays I train upon awakening so ill do my cardio, toss back the shake, start with meal 1 postworkout, then continue on my day low carb.

Part of me took time off a lot of supplementation to ease up my system and detox. Having a probiotic complex start stimulating better utilization of the higher caloric diet is helping me manage without going into shock. Im thinking ill see some improved results in my gains just from better nutrient uptake. Chest is pretty tight today - lets see what the recovery process is like. Tomorrow is back and hamstrings.

Here's that night cap salad:
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So im kinda going backwards in that I took 2 for a "loading phase" the last couple days instead of when I first started. Silly me, i have a problem with instruction apparently.

You know those people who take 20 minutes in the bathroom? I pretty much wasted half my lunch break today... pretty much cleared out my system entirely. So relieved too - made my whole day better :)

Preworkout nutrition seems to take effect faster and my hunger is up all day. Not because I feel malnourished but because my metabolism kicke dup a notch.

So I was doing some reseach on the Streptococcus themophiles as I was particularly interested in this particular colony choice.

Strep themo (along withLactobacillus bulgaricus, another ingredient in Gut Health) are two of the key components to your "probiotic" yogurts on the market today. Actually, you could pretty easily make your own yogurt with these two microorganisms.

Streptococcus thermophilus is a gram positive (meaning it has a multi-layered cell wall) cocci bacteria that forms long chains (strep) during reproduction. Here's what I mean:
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One interesting genetic characteristic is, although it does produce a cell wall, it lacks the genes to make certain surface proteins other bugs in the human body may use to hide from the immune system. So theres virtually no risk of this bacteria contributing to opportunistic infection of mucosal tissue by other pathogenic enterococcus strains. Makes sense considering it has one of the smallest genomic compositions of lactic acid bacteria. It's still in the same family as many lactobacilli and with similar G+C ratio (40%) in the DNA. It has the ability to withstand high temperatures often used during fermentation and processing (thermo=heat, philia=loving) It is considered one of the most commercially important lactic acid bacteria. In fact, the USDA states that from 1998 showed that more than 2.24 billion pounds of Mozzarella cheese and 1.37 billion pounds of yogurt were produced, for almost five million dollars in consumer value.

So why is it important as a probiotic? Streptococcus thermophilus also produces exopolysaccharides which are responsible for the texture of fermented milk and the reason we have reduced fat milks because of their ability to separate the fatty compounds in milk. Have you been wondering why I've had better digestion of cheeses? Because this Strep species can break down casein pretty well - the main protein in many dairy products like cheese. It's often used in the production of reduced-fat cheeses compared to other strains for more rich variations of cheese. When I say "lactic acid bacteria" what I mean is that it can break down latose into lactic acid - very beneficial for people who are intolerant.

In addition - this bacteria can also fight cancer!!!! By preventing transformation of nitrates into cancer-causing nitrites (often cause by gram-negative bacteria like pseudomonas... especially in UTI's...yuck.) So I work in a cancer center and found out that patients on chemotherapy often experience inflammation of the small intestine and mucosal membranes - so Strep thermo can improve the condition of the body's natural immune system during chemo (there's a couple studies on this, non human though).

So far Ive been far less gassy, and minimal foul odors as well. Any trip to the bathroom might clear my system entirely. Very minimal bloat from food during the day and Ive been eating a decent amount of broccoli lately which seems to give me issues. I feel cleaner internally and that was something I really was hoping for here.

Here's an example of breakfast this morning. After my first dose of the day then 30 min cardio.
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I have this dilemma where I really enjoy cooking but very paleo in mindset of dietary choice. If it comes in a box eat the box, it probably has more fiber.

Anyway, after so long of simply x ounces of meat and a vegetable side you start learning how to be creative and making clean meals that have negligable impact on diet. Or could improve them, like cinnamon as an insulin mimic.
 
holy crap, that's a great log entry up there! very informative...

seems, too, that you didn't miss much by accidentally bypassing the loading phase either.
 
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So why is it important as a probiotic? Streptococcus thermophilus also produces exopolysaccharides which are responsible for the texture of fermented milk and the reason we have reduced fat milks because of their ability to separate the fatty compounds in milk. Have you been wondering why I've had better digestion of cheeses? Because this Strep species can break down casein pretty well - the main protein in many dairy products like cheese. It's often used in the production of reduced-fat cheeses compared to other strains for more rich variations of cheese. When I say "lactic acid bacteria" what I mean is that it can break down latose into lactic acid - very beneficial for people who are intolerant.


This was probably the biggest factor in the inclusion of this particular strain of probiotic...and it's important that we provide the strain without the yogurt, so that the reactions take place with dietary contributions (high protein) and lactose. The bloat reduction and increase protein usage are two key goals of Gut Health.
 
Wow, some incredible information in here so far, can't wait to follow along and learn more! Keep rockin it!
 
Wonderful post. Not being bloated from being full all the time from eating so much alone will look like I completed a recomp.
 
Thanks guys. I had a real long day today - ill try to post more tomorrow.

Oh, here's my post workout meal
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New diet. Worked on this today with an RD from the hospital. Something much more balances and not so lopsided to excessive protein intake guaranteeing to give me kidney stones.

Fasted cardio
4:30-4 eggs whites, peppers/onions, an apple
6:45-1c steel cut oats, 1 tbsp peanut butter
9:30-a banana, pear, nectarine, apple... some piece of fruit around 9:30 between breakfast and lunch
12:00-5oz fish, 1c vegetables, 1oz almonds
15:00-2oz fish, 1c quinoa, 1c vegetables
17:30-1/2c rolled oats, 1 banana
18:00-Kill Sh*t
(PWO)- BCAA's, an apple
20:30-5oz fish, 1c brown rice, 1c vegetables

Fish is white/lean fish: tilapia, whitefish, flounder...
But Im switching in Salmon/Halibut/Tuna on days I dont lift - the fish higher in fats
Vegetables are the green fiber guys: broccoli, cauliflower, asparagus, brusselsprouts, spinach...
Red meat 2x per week on the last meal.
Decrease carbs on days off.

Pretty even 2:1:1 carb: protein: fats
2200 Cal
50g fats
300g carbs
170g protein

I never had quinoa before but im interested to try it out. Notice: no whey supplements.

Tonights dinner: 5oz whitefish with tropical lime seasoning, mashed and curried cauliflower, and mushrooms mildly sauteed in grape seed oil.
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quinoa is actually pretty decent if made in chicken stock/broth... i don't really watch what i eat right now so i love mixing in some butter and parmesan cheese.

in for fish pics! :D
 
I have a few things goin on that pull me away from keeping on point but I wanna have my fun through the B-day then Im crackin down. No joke. Its on FTW.
 
Nice dinner. :)
What have you noticed thus far?
So far I've noticed decrease in gas. And bloating. But it's not vanished. I have another bottle on it's way to extend this run for two bottles.
 
Really havent thought about it. Friday is my cousins wedding - ive been more concerned with that till next week. And a Jets home game Monday.
 
mattrag said:
Nice dinner. :)
What have you noticed thus far?
So far I've noticed decrease in gas. And bloating. But it's not vanished. I have another bottle on it's way to extend this run for two bottles.
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As to the new diet? Dunno, I start tomorrow. Ive been far less gassy and it hasnt been horrendous in oder like many high protein diets tend to do. Ive been eating a lot of broccoli which tends to bloat me like a balloon but Ive had no problems. The other day i had a dirty, dirty, dirty lunch... It was an enchilada from a quality restaurant but if I knew it would have that much cheese and sauce I would have never got it. But I paid for it and I was hungry. Surprisingly, still no digestive concerns. It also balanced out some weird side effects I get with Glycobol. Nothing seems to sit in my system too heavy and I feel less likely to over eat.
 
OrganicShadow said:
As to the new diet? Dunno, I start tomorrow. Ive been far less gassy and it hasnt been horrendous in oder like many high protein diets tend to do. Ive been eating a lot of broccoli which tends to bloat me like a balloon but Ive had no problems. The other day i had a dirty, dirty, dirty lunch... It was an enchilada from a quality restaurant but if I knew it would have that much cheese and sauce I would have never got it. But I paid for it and I was hungry. Surprisingly, still no digestive concerns. It also balanced out some weird side effects I get with Glycobol. Nothing seems to sit in my system too heavy and I feel less likely to over eat.
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I'm curious about this...can you expound?
 
Glycobol made my bowel movements a bit rougher and always had this weird green color. Not to mention the odor was horrendous. Now everythings much more normal.
 
OrganicShadow said:
Glycobol made my bowel movements a bit rougher and always had this weird green color. Not to mention the odor was horrendous. Now everythings much more normal.
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Ive heard many ppl complain about this. Though I haven't tried it yet. Hows the gut health working out? I know for me after about 2 weeks in I now notice my normal discomfort after eating has gone away completely
 
Today I was talking with my old roommate who suffers from Chron's Disease. He started experimenting with probiotics a while back to see if he coudl help his inflammation issues.

If you're not familiar with this condition. He had cancer at age 17 which, after being cured, left him with an autoimmune disorder in which his body views the small intestine as a foreign object. There's three subtypes based on where the immune system is targeting. I think his particular syndrome involved the ilium. His body is in constant inflammation - he told me his C-reactive protein was 4x the normal limit. Cortisol is above average upon awakening, drops midday and skyrockets by nightfall. He runs low test. Ive found him convulsing on the floor from flare ups because of eating things he shouldnt (scared the living &%# outta me). There are days he cant eat more than a bagel, powerbar, and a cup of coffee. If he needs 2000 calories to maintain body weight hell need about 4000 just to get that nutrient intake - the rest goes to waste. Its a double edge sword: need to eat more for the same results but your almost incapable of doing so.

For him, Lactobacillus plantarum, provided some help. When we lived together he was healthy and weight training at 5'5" around 145-150. I knew it was a gram positive (cell wall present) lactic acid bacteria (breaks down lactate). What I didnt know is that its normally found in salive and one of the first mechanisms of work to breakdown food. L. plantarum is one of a few species that can liquefy gelatin. He said the reason why L. plantarum was beneficial to him is because of it's method of respiration: this bacteria does not have a respiratory chain by cytochromes like other aerotolerant lactobacilli but instead derives its oxygen from hydrogen peroxide waste products from other mechanisms of metabolism. Hydrogen peroxide is a by product of other normal human metabolic processes where, in the cell, the golgi apparatus would rid of these free radical oxygen forms by way of vessicles containing hydrogen peroxidase pushing the waste outside the cell. This is, in part, why he suffers constant inflammation and flare up from eating: free radicals formed by nutrient breakdown. He claims his condition improved (not dramatically, but enough) because of his ability to tolerate more foods. Actually, this even included alcohol.

But lactobacillus plantarum doesnt use hydrogen peroxidase, it uses superoxide dismutase which functions as a defense mechanism to stabilize its territory from other bacteria trying to claim space. By collecting these minute amounts of manganese phosphate, we benefit by the eradication of free radical oxygen.

Bottem line: prevent inflammation and free radical oxygen formation from protein digestion.

Oh, just got my second bottle of Gut Health. Came with a bar of Java Lather for like 18 bucks.... WIN!!!!
 
This whole weekend I ate everything and anything. I went tailgating for the Jets game and havent felt my stomach full like that in some time.

If there was any gas it was relieved by burping. Walking the parking lot helped start up the degistin of everything I stuffed my face with. BY the time I got to my seat I felt pretty comfortable and a bit less guilty.

Gut Health hasnt had much effect on my appetite. Not feeling any more or less hungry through my day but when I am hungry - watch out...I wanna eat.
 
OrganicShadow said:
Glycobol made my bowel movements a bit rougher and always had this weird green color. Not to mention the odor was horrendous. Now everythings much more normal.
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I experience this at 2 caps at once. Glycobol still doesn't tear my stomach up like anabolic pump did. I love 1 glycobol and 1 slinsane before my latest high carb meal. No stomach issues and a very solid clean energy and pump. I have stayed lean with a less than clean diet latley.
 
I definitely ate something that spoiled in my fridge today. Immediately after meal 3 I felt some pain in my stomach. Kind of put a damper on my leg workout today but im feeling better now. Maybe Gut Health helped knock out that little bugger.

Dinner entree: tropicaly seasoned wild caught tilapia sauteed in sesame oil, pan seared asparagus and almonds with fresh garlic with a light wasabi sauce. 420 cal, 25g fats, 45g protein, 10g insoluble fiber carbs.
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That dinner sounds awesome. Great low calorie high protein meal. That would be a solid meal If I was cutting especially. It's great how creativity can make Dieting not feel like your on a diet!
 
Not every chef is a bodybuilder but every bodybuilder is a chef. Although I try to be simplistic with food combinations I still want to have some assortment of pallet without throwing things off.

The carbs are debatable if they count since its coming from nuts and greens. Nuts are insoluble fiber and veggies like asparagus are carbs in the form of cellulose which are metabolically inert in humans as we lack the enzyme to break it down. We cant hydrolyze the 1,4-beta glycosidic linkages because we dont make cellulase. Even herbivore animals have intestinal microbes to help them out (these microbes are not found in Gut Health).
 
Loads of science in this log man, very rarely do you see a sponsored log with so much input on the actual science of the supplement. Very well done sir :D
 
I was that geek in college that actually enjoyed reading his organic and biochem and books. Hell, I still do.
 
OrganicShadow said:
I was that geek in college that actually enjoyed reading his organic and biochem and books. Hell, I still do.
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I wish I knew this stuff would interest me before I went to college. Mechanical Engineering isn't always that interesting to read about lol
 
itzDodge said:
I wish I knew this stuff would interest me before I went to college. Mechanical Engineering isn't always that interesting to read about lol
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I could say the same thing about plant biology. I just don't think that something that doesn't move should be that complex.

Actually, botany is pretty intriguing but I find humans much more fascinating.

Started my second bottle of Gut Health today!
 
OrganicShadow said:
I could say the same thing about plant biology. I just don't think that something that doesn't move should be that complex.

Actually, botany is pretty intriguing but I find humans much more fascinating.

Started my second bottle of Gut Health today!
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Took a simple plant bio class in HS, they vary in weirdness lol.

Let us know how the second bottle goes! If you feel it fading in effectiveness I like to bump the dose back up for a few days and boom everything back to normal.
 
I was thinking about doing the loading phase again if maybe just for 2-3 days. Not that Ive been having digestive problems but I havent felt the same efficiency as before.
 
OrganicShadow said:
I was thinking about doing the loading phase again if maybe just for 2-3 days. Not that Ive been having digestive problems but I havent felt the same efficiency as before.
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Give it a shot, while some might not notice a tapering off in effect others will. They're low and high responders to everything.
 
Personally I would use the second bottle at 1 a day and get an extra 5 days out of it since you dont need to load. I am all about the best bang for my buck and I never notice the effects fade at all.

The extra caps won't hurt. I would take 2 on a day you know your going to rake havoc on your digestive system. But no need to reload starting the new bottle.
 
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