how big of a calorie deficit do i need to be in to see results with 11oxo
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Robboe
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No, but the recommendation is the same.
ezjax
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how could the same deficit be valid for ph vs non ph???
* Not being a jerk, but i think it is so strange that people specifically on THIS board will always give invalid opinions with no experience or research done on the compound..
Robboe- i know you said I cut @ 200-500 deficit... You might as well have said I like to eat bologne or I like to cut my grass 2x/month in the summer.. All of those answers would have as little to do with the question that I asked.
I can understand if you are trying to say 11oxo is bunk and wont make any significant difference as far as diet is concerned, but if thats what you mean then say that. Dont beat around the bush.
I dont know how much more specific i could be. This is not your personal blog..
Again if you have some experience @ 400mg 11 oxo, how much of a caloric deficit would be ideal (and why)? what are the realistic results i should see and how can i get the most out of my diet as it will be spot on as usual?
* Not being a jerk, but i think it is so strange that people specifically on THIS board will always give invalid opinions with no experience or research done on the compound..
Robboe- i know you said I cut @ 200-500 deficit... You might as well have said I like to eat bologne or I like to cut my grass 2x/month in the summer.. All of those answers would have as little to do with the question that I asked.
I can understand if you are trying to say 11oxo is bunk and wont make any significant difference as far as diet is concerned, but if thats what you mean then say that. Dont beat around the bush.
I dont know how much more specific i could be. This is not your personal blog..
Again if you have some experience @ 400mg 11 oxo, how much of a caloric deficit would be ideal (and why)? what are the realistic results i should see and how can i get the most out of my diet as it will be spot on as usual?
criticalbench
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I diet with maintenance calories, let the cardio bring you below.
wontstop985
Active member
Excuse me, sir, are you confused?
More important question: Do you realize that almost nothing in your previous post makes any sense?
JudoJosh
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ezjax
Member
explain please..
I am under the impression that steroids enhance your diet. for example higher protein uptake, greater fat loss with higher calories, or even greater potential to keep muscle in an extremely sever caloric deficit. I want to know what would be the best way to get the most out of my diet on my first ph run. For example on m-drol a much higher than a usual bulk caloric surplus is recommended.
obviously we dont have a lot of 11 oxo users posting in this thread.
If you are saying that the cals are exactly the same as a regular cut, then why would anyone bother using the product?
it is supposed to inhibit cortisol by occupying the receptors.. with less cortisol how could the same calories yield the same results?
you my friend make no sense or have no knowledge of steroids or phs and how they work.. at least i admit that i dont know how to set up my diet with this compound thanks.
I am under the impression that steroids enhance your diet. for example higher protein uptake, greater fat loss with higher calories, or even greater potential to keep muscle in an extremely sever caloric deficit. I want to know what would be the best way to get the most out of my diet on my first ph run. For example on m-drol a much higher than a usual bulk caloric surplus is recommended.
obviously we dont have a lot of 11 oxo users posting in this thread.
If you are saying that the cals are exactly the same as a regular cut, then why would anyone bother using the product?
it is supposed to inhibit cortisol by occupying the receptors.. with less cortisol how could the same calories yield the same results?
you my friend make no sense or have no knowledge of steroids or phs and how they work.. at least i admit that i dont know how to set up my diet with this compound thanks.
ezjax
Member
i dont want advice from people with no experience with phs. I get people who have no idea saying to eat the same cals as a regular cut which would mean there was no reason to take the product. Then i have people who know stuff like you who wait until there is something other than the topic to post about and then post about it...
im done with this forum all super ego maniacs and people giving bad advice about things they have no knowledge about..
dvp
New member
1) you're an idiot.
2) a cut is a cut, dude. The whole point of taking anabolics while cutting is to maintain muscle mass. You're taking an extremely mild anabolic, it should minimize losing muscle mass if you dose it right. Caloric intake doesn't magically change if your goal is to cut even with ph's, especially one like 11oxo.
2) a cut is a cut, dude. The whole point of taking anabolics while cutting is to maintain muscle mass. You're taking an extremely mild anabolic, it should minimize losing muscle mass if you dose it right. Caloric intake doesn't magically change if your goal is to cut even with ph's, especially one like 11oxo.
JudoJosh
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MAxximal
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ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha Damn you Rob!!!! you kill me LOL