Ideas for New Patches

Cogrick2 said:
Milas, I am down for whatever works. Perhaps:
B12
B6 (P5P preferably)
B1 (possibly sulbutiamine, if safe...600 milligrams gives me a boost orally but some say it is not safe long-term)
n-acetyl-tyrosine
PEA
vinpocetine (also some conflicting information about safety long-term)
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Thanks, I think the B12, B6, NAT and PEA are good as a base, I think we might be able to add a few more with a long release.

I checked on sulbutiamine earlier, but that one's too big MW. Thiamine Disulfide is one of my favorite stim/energy ingredients.
 
SuppJunkie said:
Yah Milas, I would say no with the caffeine, just becuase if it is a time release patch, it would be kindsa hard to go to bed at night when the patch is still releasing caffeine. Anyway, a lot of really good ideas so far. I talked to Steve about the creatine, and how they are working on it, but its been hard. Anyway, I would love to see a Prohormone/Designer patch and then of course, the PCT PATCH I was telling you about, that would be awesome..I am really interested in running some more patches, just a little low this month on some funds, unexpected Sh*t came up. Also, beyond that, my friggin back is still breaking out like crazy from abruptly ending my Prohormone cycle two months ago when I got hurt. I am afraid if I start the Testo100 patch now it will break out even worse. I just picked up a bottle of N2Clear so I am going to give that a shot. Too bad about the IGF-1 patch, that really had me excited. I am really excited about potential new products here and I look forward to running them. Going to apply the patch tonight, missed yesterday, fell right to sleep after shower and forgot the patch :(

What do you think about doing the patches every three days for a month instead of every five days for two months. I might give this a shot..SJ

BTW, B-12 Patch =awesome
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For your goal of healing and maintaining, I'd do lower dose for longer. If you're going for anabolism I'd dose higher, like 1 every 3 days. You can try it out, but with something like hGH for healing it takes time.
 
PH's are good ideas, especially those with short half-life or non-methyls. The problem would be dosing, there'd be very little flexibility unless you cut the patch in half or quarters, etc. That'd actually work, that what I'm planning on doing with the melatonin patches I have.
 
Milas said:
PH's are good ideas, especially those with short half-life or non-methyls. The problem would be dosing, there'd be very little flexibility unless you cut the patch in half or quarters, etc. That'd actually work, that what I'm planning on doing with the melatonin patches I have.
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You are going to cut the patches into corners, LOL bro, I never thought of that. I am curious to see how that works..SJ
 
3clipseGT said:
Where can we find out what an ingredients daltons are?
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Google. Just type the ingredient and then molecular weight in the search. Wikipedia has most in there, plus their molecular structure. They'll call it molar weight, but it's the same thing.
 
I'd go for it every 3 days. Based on Steve's input that's totally exceptable for someone with anabolic goals. Even with the time release you're getting at least a full day, if not more (36 hours perhaps), of time off before the next patch starts working. Seems acceptable to me based on what HGH injections would look like. I may order the 3 month supply and run it like that myself.
 
Beats me. LOL. Not sure how things extrapolate/are translated "over a time-released patch" AND the exact % of bioavailablity from a patch as well. LOL

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(PS: that $15 is PER WEEK! So $60/month!) ;)

Milas said:
Resveratrol works, the MW is 228 daltons. My only concern is the dose level, I like to dose pretty high but with patches you're a bit more restricted on how much you can load it with. R-Spray is already available from PA and Prototype, as you know Whacked, but perhaps there's a place for an easy and consistent "low" dose patch for general health and some AI properties?

I'm thinking about 75mg of Resveratrol, how does that sound?
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This is what ive started doing. Granted im only 3 patches in, but i started with this last patch and will continue to dose every 3rd day and see how it treats me.
 
3clipseGT said:
This is what ive started doing. Granted im only 3 patches in, but i started with this last patch and will continue to dose every 3rd day and see how it treats me.
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Interesting to see how this works for someone using it for anabolism. Perhaps you could log it for us???

Also, I love the idea of a resveratrol patch. Lot's of people would gobble that up as well.
 
prld2gr8ns said:
Interesting to see how this works for someone using it for anabolism. Perhaps you could log it for us???

Also, I love the idea of a resveratrol patch. Lot's of people would gobble that up as well.
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Ill get up a log tonight for you guys. Im cutting anyway so itll be good for motivation plus spread some word.

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I'm logging too, I'm doing 2 PowerPatch patches a week, once Monday night and once Wednesday night (for leg and chest day).

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Milas said:
PH's are good ideas, especially those with short half-life or non-methyls. The problem would be dosing, there'd be very little flexibility unless you cut the patch in half or quarters, etc. That'd actually work, that what I'm planning on doing with the melatonin patches I have.
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Ah, good! I used a melatonin patch last night and the night prior, and i think it's too strong for me. So the compounds are about evenly distributed across the patch? I'd like to try a 1/2 patch.
 
You could definitely cut it in half n try that for the patch.

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SuppJunkie said:
Milas, you are doing two HGH Powerpatches a week, is that what you said?

SJ
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Yes, one on Monday night (tonight) and one on Wednesday night. These correspond to 2 of my tougher workouts during the week (Tuesday is quads and Thursday morning is chest/hamstring). It also coincides with the evening of tought workouts too for better recovery (Monday is chest/tri and Wednesday morning is back/bi). I'm going to do a patch on my left foot on Mondays (left leg is 1" smaller than right, go figure) for leg day, and then Wednesday night I'll put a patch on my forearm for my chest workout. I know the patches are systemic, but I think there will be higher concentrations wherever you put the patch. I also noticed more effect from the patch when I had it on my foot.
 
Cogrick2 said:
Ah, good! I used a melatonin patch last night and the night prior, and i think it's too strong for me. So the compounds are about evenly distributed across the patch? I'd like to try a 1/2 patch.
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Yeah, just cut it in half.

My son has been on sublingual melatonin (1-2mg) for the past year now since he cannot fall asleep peacefully without it. Doctors wanted to put him on AD/HD medications and what not, but we wanted to try more natural solutions first. The melatonin has been a godsend, and has helped him get to sleep. Some nights though he doesn't sleep through the night, and will wake up and be ready to go at 1-2AM! We're going to try cutting the patch into quarters to see if that will help keep him asleep through the night (~1.25mg) more consistently.
 
Oh, I just looked up B12 and the MW is ~1550, so again unless it's "engineered" B12 it's not getting through transdermally. I think there's enough interest though to see what that would take for AgeForce and their suppliers to produce.
 
How about ecdy I've read how it works very well if injected.
 
So, has there been any talk guys about some new patches being brought to the market..I would love to hear about it..SJ
 
Creatine HCL
Beta Alaine
Amino Acids
GPLC
Coq10 with taurine and idebonone
Glutamine and Leucine
ATP
 
A lot of good ideas here, I know one is in the works for a staple type of supplement ...
 
Hopefullt thats the multi vitamin I asked about a few weeks ago, that would be great, and then some added CoQ10 as well..SJ
 
Bump for ecdy fo sho. Ph's would be sweet a$$ too
 
Anyone knows anything more about the Lean Xtreme's tanning effect? Is it from he forskolin or the lower cortisol levels?
 
tanning happens from the effect of Forskolin on cAMP among other things, it's not from lowering cortisol. Lean Xtreme is plenty safe.
 
Milas said:
tanning happens from the effect of Forskolin on cAMP among other things, it's not from lowering cortisol. Lean Xtreme is plenty safe.
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Thank you, Milas. Have you been using forskolin for tanning? Do you know the neqcessary dose to achieve a tan?
 
No, I have not. There was another thread I saw you post in on topical forskolin, I think they talked about dosing in there. I think it was in the range of 50-100mg daily topical for tanning IIRC, but I'd double check that.
 
Focus patch, something that gets you in the zone, would be loved by college kids. Maybe even a chile out patch, doesnt knock you out but gives a relaxed feeling.
 
Milas said:
No, I have not. There was another thread I saw you post in on topical forskolin, I think they talked about dosing in there. I think it was in the range of 50-100mg daily topical for tanning IIRC, but I'd double check that.
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Mila,s does this really work and do you have a link for it..PM me..SJ
 
bkprice said:
Focus patch, something that gets you in the zone, would be loved by college kids. Maybe even a chile out patch, doesnt knock you out but gives a relaxed feeling.
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I like these ideas too. Nootropics are fun to play around with, LOL!
 
Russianstar had a great write up about injectable ecdy. He said it was his fav anabolic. Its a good read on here if u can find it.
 
Funny you should ask, there's a Creatine + Beta Alanine patch that should be coming to market in October. That should be really nice!
 
Milas said:
Funny you should ask, there's a Creatine + Beta Alanine patch that should be coming to market in October. That should be really nice!
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Bro, are you F-in kidding me. That would be awesome. Last time I spoke with them, they were having a hard time getting the creatine through the skin. I guess they were finally able to do it. Thats awesome bro and I better have first dibs on logging it here. That would work out good as I plan on starting my natty stach in October, consisiting of N2BM HcGenerate, Phytoserms 347, Anebeta, N2BM DAA, and Ecdy. I was already planning on using the Powerpatch as well as the pre/post patches in this log. I would love to add in the creatine patches as well. Awesome news, cant say it enough..SJ
 
Creatine and Beta Alanine patch is out today!How about a slow-release BCAA + EAA patch for sleep...maybe three staggered absorption waves so we get a few pulses to maximize protein synthesis throughout the night?
 
I am very excited about the creatine and Beta Patch. This is awesome news for me. MY stomach does not really agree with creatine so this will workout perfect for me. Thank you AgeForce..SJ
 
SuppJunkie said:
I am very excited about the creatine and Beta Patch. This is awesome news for me. MY stomach does not really agree with creatine so this will workout perfect for me. Thank you AgeForce..SJ
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Should minimize bloating too :).
 
Milas said:
Funny you should ask, there's a Creatine + Beta Alanine patch that should be coming to market in October. That should be really nice!
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Hell yes
 
I ordered the creatine patches last week and I am patiently waiting for them to arrive. Ahhh, who am I kidding. I want them and I want them now..LOL

SJ
 
Well everyone should soon get a chance to try them with an upcoming promo. Watch for it in your email or the promo section...
 
Try what, the creatine patches or something different. BTW, I am going to need 3 more months of HGH Powerpatches so hook me up with a DEAL my brotha..LOL..

SJ
 
SuppJunkie said:
Try what, the creatine patches or something different. BTW, I am going to need 3 more months of HGH Powerpatches so hook me up with a DEAL my brotha..LOL..

SJ
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Creatine Patches. Your order may have gotten caught up when the first production run was sold-out with the 50% off code, and that's probably the reason for your delay. The 2nd run should be coming soon though. I don't know if that's what happened for sure, I'm just guessing.

PowerPatches? PM coming...
 
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