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Is it OK to combine Havoc and Epi-strong

kansui

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To finish out my cycle i want to bump up to 40mg daily. My question is, is it ok to mix havoc and epi-strong in the same cycle? because i will run out of havoc at this dose. I have a full bottle of Epi-strong ... i'm aware that they are considered the same, but they do have a slight difference and chemical structure. No side effects happening so may want to extend cycle to 5 weeks also.
On a side note, will the epi keep ok for 4 months or so in an opened bottle ... until my next run. Thanks.
 
yes. it's ok to mix. epi-strong is a higher dosage per pill than havoc so when you switch to the epi-strong you will be at 45 mg. 5 weeks is fine. a closed unsealed bottle will be fine for 4 months.
 
Yeah there are a tad different but your body won't notice much difference

You could mix them and use both the whole cycle. That way you won't be switching from one to the other.... Doesn't matter how you go about it, it won't make a difference
 
jbryand101b said:
NO DON'T DO IT, MIXING THE TWO MAY CAUSE YOU TO SPONTANEOUSLY COMBUST!

Thought this could happen!! Geez, lucky I asked before mixing the two! Thanks for the life saving post jbryand101b.
 
gymrat827 said:
Yeah there are a tad different but your body won't notice much difference

You could mix them and use both the whole cycle. That way you won't be switching from one to the other.... Doesn't matter how you go about it, it won't make a difference

Cheers, looks like it's good to go then. Thanks for the straight forward answer.
 
they aren't different. they are exactly the same compound. bunch of retards. i beilieve epi strong is 15mg per cap though. or it used to be.
 
jbryand101b said:
they aren't different. they are exactly the same compound. bunch of retards. i beilieve epi strong is 15mg per cap though. or it used to be.

HAVOC - 2a, 3a-Epithio-17a-Methyl- 5a-Androstan- 17b-0I

EPI-STRONG - 2,3a-Epithio-17a-Methyletioallocholan-17b-0l

They aren't 'exactly' the same mate... The chemical name of each makes that clear.
This slight difference was the point of my original post.
We retards are all aware that they are 'essentially' the same compound.
Anyway, I'm clear on that they are totally interchangeable now.. Which is great!
 
If both products contain "real" ingredients, then they are the same written differently.

2a,3a-epithio17a methyl-17b-hydroxy-5a-androstane
2a,3a-epithio-17a-methyl-5a-androstan-17b-ol
 
kansui said:
HAVOC - 2a, 3a-Epithio-17a-Methyl- 5a-Androstan- 17b-0I

EPI-STRONG - 2,3a-Epithio-17a-Methyletioallocholan-17b-0l

They aren't 'exactly' the same mate... The chemical name of each makes that clear.
This slight difference was the point of my original post.
We retards are all aware that they are 'essentially' the same compound.
Anyway, I'm clear on that they are totally interchangeable now.. Which is great!

Both chemical structures are essentially the same. I know they look different written out, but they are both EPI, and when dosed the same should give identical results.
 
jbryand101b said:
you doubt me? huh, okay. you obviously know more than i do.

etioallocholan=5a-Androstan

Well there you go, you learn something new everyday.... And today I have. I did not know that...Still now, I am only taking your word for it, that this is actually the case. It does give me an answer to my question. You could have said that in the first place tho..
 
jbryand101b said:
you doubt me? huh, okay. you obviously know more than i do.

etioallocholan=5a-Androstan

Yep this the truth....same sh1t written differently.
 
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