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AnaBeta FAQ - Ask Away

VeeSix said:
Cheers Rosie :)

I've been on Alpha and Erase for over a week now with no side effects (i've upped to 4 Erase and no joint issues). I understand that AnaBeta may massively increase appetite - however similarly, Alpha may suppress the worst of it?

Quite excited about stacking AnaBeta with these now...
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No worries :)

I personally have never experienced any appetite suppression from Alpha-T2, standalone or stacked with other products. In saying that, it's rare for me to use anything that will suppress my appetite and only a couple of products have ever done this, albeit only for a short period of time and only ever during the FIRST time used - generally I am a bottomless pit and if my appetite is suppressed, then that's an indicator that something is WRONG with me!

~Rosie~
 
I've noted a minor decrease in appetite following alpha-t2 supplementation, so i guess it varies largely based on the individual.
 
Not as far as I am aware. I am sure someone will chime in if they know otherwise.
 
picazzo said:
Has anybody ran Anabeta during a prohormone cycle ?
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I could be wrong, but I believe that there was one individual who did - either look through the log list or Josh may chime in.

~Rosie~
 
picazzo said:
Has anybody ran Anabeta during a prohormone cycle ?
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Although it may potentially stack well with prohormones, I feel its use is best left for post-cycle. The fact that it doesnt hamper HPTA recovery makes it much more valuable during this time since your hormonal profile is skewed towards catabolism.
 
I think I am going to run it with a mild PH....Any reason Anabeta would not be a tremendous addition to say 11OXO ?
 
Those compounds arent very suppressive, so in theory i can see it being useful to those followed by a minor PCT.
 
After i'm in my /PCT/ for Alpha + Erase, i'll be use Lean Xtreme to keep thyroid/metabolism running strong. And in theory, I can run AnaBeta for as long as I want with no PCT at all?

This is very interesting indeed; although I do have reservations about stacking it with AndroLean?
 
VeeSix said:
After i'm in my /PCT/ for Alpha + Erase, i'll be use Lean Xtreme to keep thyroid/metabolism running strong. And in theory, I can run AnaBeta for as long as I want with no PCT at all?

This is very interesting indeed; although I do have reservations about stacking it with AndroLean?
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You're running a pct for Alphat2 and Erase?
 
If I ran alpha t2 erase and anabeta what would be the optimal length of the cycle? 2-3 months

Sounds like a good stack to pack on muscle and to help lean out
 
picazzo said:
I think I am going to run it with a mild PH....Any reason Anabeta would not be a tremendous addition to say 11OXO ?
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You could stack AnaBeta with 11-oxo, yes.


VeeSix said:
Or, alternatively, an anabolic like AndroLean?
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You could also stack AnaBeta with AndroLean.


VeeSix said:
After i'm in my /PCT/ for Alpha + Erase, i'll be use Lean Xtreme to keep thyroid/metabolism running strong. And in theory, I can run AnaBeta for as long as I want with no PCT at all?

This is very interesting indeed; although I do have reservations about stacking it with AndroLean?
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You do NOT need to do a PCT for either Alpha-T2, Erase, OR AnaBeta - all three products are NATURAL and therefore do NOT require a PCT.

You can however used Lean Xtreme after using Erase - just be aware of your cortisol levels.

Not sure what product you are referring to re stacking with AndroLean, but you don't want to (or need to) stack Erase or Lean Xtreme with AndroLean. You could stack Alpha-T2 or AnaBeta with AndroLean however.

As kevinhy mentioned earlier though, AnaBeta is better utilized during the PCT of a hormonal product, IMO.


Bagged01 said:
If I ran alpha t2 erase and anabeta what would be the optimal length of the cycle? 2-3 months

Sounds like a good stack to pack on muscle and to help lean out
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Anywhere from 4-12 weeks would be my recommendation. Generally ~8 weeks is the "magic" number of weeks to get the optimal effects from a product.

Alpha-T2, Erase, and AnaBeta is an excellent stack for a recomp, yes.

~Rosie~
 
Currently in middle of my 4 week break from erase, starting s fresh 8 weeks on sept 2... AFTER the 8 weeks I'm gonna go on ab for 4 weeks before running ANOTHER 8 of erase! Question is:

Will ab help alleviate some of the estrogen rebound I am noticing right now during my 4 weeks off (meaning my definition basically disappeared after being off for a week) will ab help keep me lean n hard??
 
ok so maybe not worth a new thread so ill ask here, as im sure some blood tests were made by PES at one point?

How does anabeta affect the following if any:

* Testesterone (total/free)
* dhea
* E2
* fasting glucose
* prolactin
* ADH

Thanks
 
chedapalooza said:
Currently in middle of my 4 week break from erase, starting s fresh 8 weeks on sept 2... AFTER the 8 weeks I'm gonna go on ab for 4 weeks before running ANOTHER 8 of erase! Question is:Will ab help alleviate some of the estrogen rebound I am noticing right now during my 4 weeks off (meaning my definition basically disappeared after being off for a week) will ab help keep me lean n hard??
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It won't hurt that's for sure
 
djremix said:
ok so maybe not worth a new thread so ill ask here, as im sure some blood tests were made by PES at one point?How does anabeta affect the following if any:* Testesterone (total/free)* dhea* E2* fasting glucose* prolactin* ADHThanks
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Not sure. Someone had bloodwork done a few weeks ago and posted their T levels went up on AB but the rest of their panel was normal. Not sure what the panel was for
 
chedapalooza said:
Currently in middle of my 4 week break from erase, starting s fresh 8 weeks on sept 2... AFTER the 8 weeks I'm gonna go on ab for 4 weeks before running ANOTHER 8 of erase! Question is:

Will ab help alleviate some of the estrogen rebound I am noticing right now during my 4 weeks off (meaning my definition basically disappeared after being off for a week) will ab help keep me lean n hard??
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Ive been thinking about doing erase during my cut phase next month. When you say you had eostrogen rebound, did you tapper off erase or go from full dose to nothing? Im all for using it to get ripped but if i just get puffy again aftewards i cant see the point. I might just use AT2 and shift or OEP instead.
 
Docmattic said:
Ive been thinking about doing erase during my cut phase next month. When you say you had eostrogen rebound, did you tapper off erase or go from full dose to nothing? Im all for using it to get ripped but if i just get puffy again aftewards i cant see the point. I might just use AT2 and shift or OEP instead.
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I tapered. I
Started at 3 for a week then moved to 4 for 7 weeks. Then days 3/day, 3 days 2/day , 2 days 1/day... I immediately noticed puffiness returning after I hit 2/day. And I would highly reccomend 4/day for the majority of cycle with one cap at bed time... Honestly like anything, you WONT
Stay the same when u come off... But the 8 weeks ur on are gonna be some of the best... Like I said, I regained most of the lost water n fat (about 5-6 pounds heavier off the erase) but I'm doing some research on something to bridge for the 4 weeks in between my next run... Im gonna use anabeta actually so well see how that works... I also used oep and animal cuts (switched to 2shredded when cuts ran out) it's the leanest I've been since I basically lived a competition lifestyle counting an measuring calories/food, etc... It just seemed to happen more every day while on the erase!!
 
chedapalooza said:
Currently in middle of my 4 week break from erase, starting s fresh 8 weeks on sept 2... AFTER the 8 weeks I'm gonna go on ab for 4 weeks before running ANOTHER 8 of erase! Question is:

Will ab help alleviate some of the estrogen rebound I am noticing right now during my 4 weeks off (meaning my definition basically disappeared after being off for a week) will ab help keep me lean n hard??
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If you're lean enough, your definition should not disappear once you stop using Erase. As long as you are training and are lean enough, you should still see your definition, regardless. You might not look as dry, but definition shouldn't disappear.

AnaBeta should keep you hard/pumped - at least, that's what it does for me, whether training or not. Your leanness really depends on your nutrition and/or training.


Docmattic said:
Ive been thinking about doing erase during my cut phase next month. When you say you had eostrogen rebound, did you tapper off erase or go from full dose to nothing? Im all for using it to get ripped but if i just get puffy again aftewards i cant see the point. I might just use AT2 and shift or OEP instead.
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I can't speak for the males since I am a female. I don't taper off Erase - if I run out of a bottle, it's full dose to nothing until I get a new bottle. However, I don't get puffy, etc. if I go without Erase for a week or so - I notice a difference when I'm not using it, yes, which is why I hate not using it, but it's more re feeling and water retention (holding a little water in the right places doesn't make one "puffy"); plus, I find it easier to maintain leanness with Erase.

Erase stacked with Alpha-T2 is a nice leaning stack if that's what you're looking for - alongside the appropriate nutrition and training specifically for you targeted at fat loss, of course.

~Rosie~
 
VeeSix said:
You continually use Erase Rosie? No breaks at all?

I'm sure it says it's for men only too :p
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Yes, I do - Erase is a STAPLE for me. Honestly, the only time I have off it is if I run out of one bottle and have to wait for another one - the longest I have had off is the time I was using Triazole (since you don't want to stack two products with AI properties, and it was my first time using Triazole, so I used it standalone to see what happened re effects, etc.). As far as everyone else, how they use it is up to them - remember that everything should be INDIVIDUAL dependent; what I do I would NOT recommend for anyone else, male OR female, and I do what I do because it works the best for MY body.

Yes, is says for men only, and products with AI properties are not something I would recommend for women in general. However, there are always exceptions to the rule and for females who know what they are doing, their body and how it responds to everything, are experienced trainees, and all the ins and outs of such supplements, it could be used.

P.S. Note that all of the above is common knowledge, and the longer you hang around and browse the forum, the more you will learn about other members.

~Rosie~
 
Rosie Chee Scott said:
I can't speak for the males since I am a female. I don't taper off Erase - if I run out of a bottle, it's full dose to nothing until I get a new bottle. However, I don't get puffy, etc. if I go without Erase for a week or so - I notice a difference when I'm not using it, yes, which is why I hate not using it, but it's more re feeling and water retention (holding a little water in the right places doesn't make one "puffy"); plus, I find it easier to maintain leanness with Erase.

Erase stacked with Alpha-T2 is a nice leaning stack if that's what you're looking for - alongside the appropriate nutrition and training specifically for you targeted at fat loss, of course.

~Rosie~
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I'll have to do some more research on it then. But i want to get my diet right for fatloss before i order any supps so i dont rely on them to do the work for me. I just started lean gains yesterday. Im liking it so far-nice big meals while cutting. Its just the fasting part i have to get used to.
 
Docmattic said:
I'll have to do some more research on it then. But i want to get my diet right for fatloss before i order any supps so i dont rely on them to do the work for me. I just started lean gains yesterday. Im liking it so far-nice big meals while cutting. Its just the fasting part i have to get used to.
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You can't go wrong with more research. Definitely get your nutrition right SPECIFICALLY for YOU re fat loss and go from there - experiment as you go along, make adjustments at the end of every week based on your progress that week, until you find what works best for you, even if that means making your own modification of any nutritional method (including Lean Gains). You've only just started a new nutrition plan then, so you should give yourself at least a week or so on it to judge progress, although you will see results within the first week of adhering to Lean Gains - trust me, the fasting part you get used to fairly quickly (ensure that the bulk of it is scheduled when you are sleeping and/or before training, ideally breaking your fast with your post-training meal) and you can definitely get in all your calories in 6-8 hours no worries! You don't even have to add any other supplements but the basic staples of creatine, multivitamin, good fats (if not all got from food), protein and/or BCAAs if you don't want to either - progress can be made well enough with the right nutrition plan and training programme. However, once you get leaner and leaner, continually making even small adjustments weekly to your nutrition and training to keep getting progress, if you ever reach a plateau that cannot be broken past through yet more nutrition and/or training changes, or you get to be relatively lean and want a little "help", then consider adding in other products - there will be those that disagree, but that is my recommendation.

~Rosie~
 
Rosie you have my respect - I would throw a generalisation out there that went along the lines of 'women have a harder time than males for weight loss and keeping it off' by the simple fact of estrogen/oestrogen forcing it on them.

Kudos to you :)

Would I be correct in assuming if I can use 3 tabs of Erase with zero side effects, that it would be safe for permanent usage for me? Although i'd probably want to stack it with Alpha, AnaBeta and AndroLean, so quite the ****tail of abuse.
 
VeeSix said:
Rosie you have my respect - I would throw a generalisation out there that went along the lines of 'women have a harder time than males for weight loss and keeping it off' by the simple fact of estrogen/oestrogen forcing it on them.

Kudos to you :)

Would I be correct in assuming if I can use 3 tabs of Erase with zero side effects, that it would be safe for permanent usage for me? Although i'd probably want to stack it with Alpha, AnaBeta and AndroLean, so quite the ****tail of abuse.
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You would be incorrect in thinking that because you do not notice side effects it would be ok for permanent use. Sooner or later you will find that products that produce a hormonal reaction will lose efficacy due to the body balancing itself out in search of homeostasis.

Aromatase inhibitors are not things that you would want to run for an extended period of time. This would also apply to something that reduces cortisol as well. Low cortisol permanently is not something you would want, it is something you would use to lower high cortisol levels for maximum effect. This is one of the mechanisms which could result in joint pain and lethargy.
 
bdcc said:
You would be incorrect in thinking that because you do not notice side effects it would be ok for permanent use. Sooner or later you will find that products that produce a hormonal reaction will lose efficacy due to the body balancing itself out in search of homeostasis.

Aromatase inhibitors are not things that you would want to run for an extended period of time. This would also apply to something that reduces cortisol as well. Low cortisol permanently is not something you would want, it is something you would use to lower high cortisol levels for maximum effect. This is one of the mechanisms which could result in joint pain and lethargy.
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Damn that Hypothalamus and it's homeostasis!

Oh well, it's cheaper if I don't run Erase back-to-back then ;)
 
A couple of bottles back to back is fine. :)
 
VeeSix said:
Rosie you have my respect - I would throw a generalisation out there that went along the lines of 'women have a harder time than males for weight loss and keeping it off' by the simple fact of estrogen/oestrogen forcing it on them.

Kudos to you :)

Would I be correct in assuming if I can use 3 tabs of Erase with zero side effects, that it would be safe for permanent usage for me? Although i'd probably want to stack it with Alpha, AnaBeta and AndroLean, so quite the ****tail of abuse.
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Thanks for the kind words :)

The generalization that "women have a harder time than males for weight loss and keeping it off" is bullsh*t IMO and just an excuse that people use when they don't get the results that they want. If someone knows what they are doing and is doing the right thing for THEM re nutrition and training, then fat loss is easy enough (weight loss and fat loss are two completely DIFFERENT things and weight loss is easy for anyone; FAT loss is what you want to focus on though, since weight is IRrelevant) - most just don't know their body and follow generic plans, or do not have the discipline to be consistent with something, or want results overnight and get disappointed when progress is not instant. I hear this generalization a lot and just shake my head now.

As a female, using such products affects me slightly differently than it would a male, but like Ben said, you don't want to use anything permanently, especially those that have AI properties or affect cortisol - even if you do not "feel" anything, such products ARE doing something. Even I don't use it all the time, since even a week off a product can make a difference. Josh might mention more on this.


VeeSix said:
Damn that Hypothalamus and it's homeostasis!

Oh well, it's cheaper if I don't run Erase back-to-back then ;)
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Erase back-to-back is fine, and dependent on your dosage, a bottle of Erase will last you anywhere from 2-6 weeks (I use 5 caps a day, so it only lasts me 15 days, but most males use 2-4 caps a day). If you're going to use 3 caps a day, a bottle of Erase will last you a month. I recommend using Erase for ~8 weeks before giving yourself some time off it.

~Rosie~
 
Ben has already offered some decent advice to me regarding cortisol - i've got my AnaBeta here, so i'm in the process of planning out my stacks.

1.5wks into Erase and Alpha so far
(Eviscerate doesn't matter for time off from it)

I have AnaBeta and AndroLean waiting to start up, so i'm just tossing over some ideas - running the course with Alpha/Erase, then after 8weeks, dropping out of Alpha/Erase, then onto AnaBeta/AndroLean/Lean Xtreme. Sound's like a fair plan?

The last thing I want is to pile high with supps and overdo things.
 
VeeSix said:
Ben has already offered some decent advice to me regarding cortisol - i've got my AnaBeta here, so i'm in the process of planning out my stacks.

1.5wks into Erase and Alpha so far
(Eviscerate doesn't matter for time off from it)

I have AnaBeta and AndroLean waiting to start up, so i'm just tossing over some ideas - running the course with Alpha/Erase, then after 8weeks, dropping out of Alpha/Erase, then onto AnaBeta/AndroLean/Lean Xtreme. Sound's like a fair plan?

The last thing I want is to pile high with supps and overdo things.
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If you're only going to run the second stack for ~4 weeks, then yes, fine to start immediately after finishing the Alpha-T2/Erase stack.

No need to stack AndroLean and Lean Xtreme - I recommend one or the other.

~Rosie~
 
I'm just entering my seventh week on AnaBeta. About week four I added DAA and CRE 02 to the mix and my strengh in the gym has skyrocketed on all exercises. I can't say how much is attributable to each product or if they are all working synergistically but the stack, as a whole, is working great. My inclined bench press has jumped from 225 x 8 reps to 245 x 8 reps. This is the largest increase but all exercises have increased significantly. Note: I seldom work legs in the gym.
 
BBB said:
I'm just entering my seventh week on AnaBeta. About week four I added DAA and CRE 02 to the mix and my strengh in the gym has skyrocketed on all exercises. I can't say how much is attributable to each product or if they are all working synergistically but the stack, as a whole, is working great. My inclined bench press has jumped from 225 x 8 reps to 245 x 8 reps. This is the largest increase but all exercises have increased significantly. Note: I seldom work legs in the gym.
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^ good feedback Triple B! :) out of curiosity, have you used DAA before?
 
I have used TCF-1 previously and I did notice a slight increase in strength along with better mood and sleep. I also noticed a hardening effect near the end of my cycle. I have used many forms of creatine with little effect. I decided to try CRE 02 because it is enteric coated. This usually helps absorption and efficacy.
 
VeeSix said:
Androlean needs to be used up too! I have all supps here beside me already so its not like i'm compiling a shopping-list... moreover i'm using my stocks!
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Use it at another time, then. Or the Lean Xtreme. Just because you have something does not mean you have to use it right away.

Honestly, I would go with what Josh recommended - AnaBeta and Lean Xtreme and use the AndoLean later on.

~Rosie~
 
BBB said:
Rosie,

Kiwi? Is there such a place?
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No place known as "Kiwi", no. However, it is a term often used to refer to New Zealanders.

The kiwi is a small, flightless bird native to Aotearoa (the Maori name for New Zealand).
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VeeSix said:
Kiwi is a nickname for a New Zealander... (based on their Rugby team).
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The nickname is not based on our rugby team at all. The symbol of the All Black is the SILVER FERN.
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The kiwi however, IS another national icon, and either that or the silver fern is used as the symbol for and/or in the logo of most of our National teams.

~Rosie~
 
Definitely increased my appetite, but had to stop taking 2 weeks in started getting really tired even on 8-10 hrs of sleep....Anabeta is strong.....should I drop to 3 pills a day? or just stay off maybe not jiving with me??
 
VeeSix said:
Lol, my mistake... and I detected a fiery streak of patriotism in that reply Rosie!!! :P
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I'm proud to be a Kiwi - why should I not be?!


andy148lbs said:
Definitely increased my appetite, but had to stop taking 2 weeks in started getting really tired even on 8-10 hrs of sleep....Anabeta is strong.....should I drop to 3 pills a day? or just stay off maybe not jiving with me??
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How are you timing your doses? Definitely try using only three caps a day - maybe even go down to two - and make sure that you dose them WITH meals, and see how that treats you.

~Rosie~
 
Rosie Chee Scott said:
I'm proud to be a Kiwi - why should I not be?!


You Should ! New Zealand is such a beautifull place , when there 5-6 years ago, me and my GF wanted to move there after. Nice place, down to earth people. Event got my Tatoo done there ! Nice memories ! Will return there for sure when my 2 daugthers are old enough to appreciate it !
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I'm currently 2.5 weeks into my run with anabeta. I started it right after a 8-9 week summer recomp using fadogia, testofen, divanex and erase. I've been using anabeta at 4 caps daily dosing at 1 cap with breakfast, 1 cap preworkout, 1 cap post workout and 1 cap with evening meal. I am also finishing out the rest of my Erase from the summer recomp using 1 cap daily upon waking up. Other than the increased thirst I didn't really feel any of the most commonly experienced effects of anabeta such as the increased hunger, increased body temperature, better pumps, etc. Being that I am 175lbs I assumed 4 caps per day was more than enough for my size and I was thinking that I might be a non-responder to this particular compound. But I read that some people were dosing slightly higher at 5-6 per day and so today I decided to up the dose to 5-6 caps using 1 cap with breakfast, 2 caps preworkout, 2 caps post workout, and maybe 1 with my evening meal. at this point I have taken 5 caps for today and now am feeling a much greater increase in thirst as well as increased body temp, and my stomach seems to emptying faster as i have noticed that it gets flat relatively quickly after my meals and I feel as if I could eat again. My workout today was great. Increased pumps, better stamina, slight increase in strength and all my joints felt loose and fluid. Being on 5 caps of anabeta + 1 erase today was better than the best day I had on my summer recomp stack. Now that I have adjusted the dosage for myself accordingly, I am finding it to be quite impressive.

However I wanted to ask if it was safe to keep the dosage at 5-6 per day for the rest of my run? My plan is to run anabeta for 12 weeks. Also for anyone who thinks they don't feel it perhaps they should up the dose for a few days to see if it makes any difference. Increasing by 1 cap seems to have made a world of difference for me.
 
hsk said:
I'm currently 2.5 weeks into my run with anabeta. I started it right after a 8-9 week summer recomp using fadogia, testofen, divanex and erase. I've been using anabeta at 4 caps daily dosing at 1 cap with breakfast, 1 cap preworkout, 1 cap post workout and 1 cap with evening meal. I am also finishing out the rest of my Erase from the summer recomp using 1 cap daily upon waking up. Other than the increased thirst I didn't really feel any of the most commonly experienced effects of anabeta such as the increased hunger, increased body temperature, better pumps, etc. Being that I am 175lbs I assumed 4 caps per day was more than enough for my size and I was thinking that I might be a non-responder to this particular compound. But I read that some people were dosing slightly higher at 5-6 per day and so today I decided to up the dose to 5-6 caps using 1 cap with breakfast, 2 caps preworkout, 2 caps post workout, and maybe 1 with my evening meal. at this point I have taken 5 caps for today and now am feeling a much greater increase in thirst as well as increased body temp, and my stomach seems to emptying faster as i have noticed that it gets flat relatively quickly after my meals and I feel as if I could eat again. My workout today was great. Increased pumps, better stamina, slight increase in strength and all my joints felt loose and fluid. Being on 5 caps of anabeta + 1 erase today was better than the best day I had on my summer recomp stack. Now that I have adjusted the dosage for myself accordingly, I am finding it to be quite impressive.

However I wanted to ask if it was safe to keep the dosage at 5-6 per day for the rest of my run? My plan is to run anabeta for 12 weeks. Also for anyone who thinks they don't feel it perhaps they should up the dose for a few days to see if it makes any difference. Increasing by 1 cap seems to have made a world of difference for me.
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Some people do require more, or might not "feel" whats going on. I really enjoy Anabeta at 6caps/day, and its perfectly safe to dose at 6 caps for an entire run.

Have you monitored your weight or lifting poundages for any increases? Perhaps they have went up but you just didnt experience the usual "gnarly pumps and intense hunger" thats often attributed to Anabeta.

I dont even feel superdrol if its below 25mg, and I'm sure there are others in that same boat, so it could just produce more subtle differences in your case.
 
My scale weight has stayed the same. As for poundages, I have been lifting the same but I am hesitant to increase the poundage lifted as I am trying to avoid any injuries at the moment. I do keep very strict form and usually just focus on slowing down the movement (especially the negatvies) in order to make the weight I am moving feel heavier than it is. I have found that I have been able to recover faster from my workouts for the past week. And today when I bumped the dosage up, I had some really great pumps during my workouts and for the rest of the day. I have also been sweating like crazy today. This was at 5 caps. I will probably stay at 5 caps for a week before trying 6 caps. I guess my sweetspot is 5-6 per day. I hope that the rest of my run will feel like it did today.
 
The dosing scheme varies from person to person. Most do well on 4 caps spread evenly throughout the day but occasionally we have reviews from people saying it didn't do anything noticeable until they bumped it up to 5 capsules per day or take 2 capsules twice per day.

Stick with what is working for you.

Ben
 
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