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Top Government Insider: Bin Laden Died In 2001, 9/11 A False Flag

Yeah, workers comp primarily works for lawyers, accupuncturists, and massage therapists, not actual MDs
 
Yeah, workers comp primarily works for lawyers, accupuncturists, and massage therapists, not actual MDs

The lawyers dont want crap to do with it either, they do but they dont really put anytime into it (unless you know them).

I had a case years ago where the lawyer basically walked in at the court house, opened the folder as if he is looking at it the first time (initially talked to a paralegal). Next we were at a table with my former boss and judge (lawyers etc.,) the other side quickly offered cash money (I still needed more screening for injury) my lawyer quickly convinced me to take the money and run (I was young and naive) and that was it.

I had $1,200 in medical bills, needed more testing that was the end of it. Was payed $1,000. The fact that I was short on rent and out of work for obvious reasons is why I took the money but the lawyer pushing me to take it influenced me.

Next----My own lawyer in the parking lot told me since I cant pay my bills that he can file a bankrupcy for me if I wanted to, and that it would only cost me only about $1000.

Wow.
 
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The lawyers dont want crap to do with it either, they do but they dont really put anytime into it (unless you know them).

I had a case years ago where the lawyer basically walked in at the court house, opened the folder as if he is looking at it the first time (initially talked to a paralegal). Next we were their, the other side quickly offered cash money (I still needed more screening for injury) my lawyer quickly convinced me to take the money and run (I was young and naive) and that was it.

I had $1,200 in medical bills, needed more testing that was the end of it. Was payed $1,000.

Next----The lawyer in the parking lot told me since I cant pay my bills that he can file a bankrupcy for me if I wanted to, and that it would only cost me about $1000.

Wow.

Hehehe, yep that sounds about right. Years ago a friend drunkenly slammed and broke his thumb in a taxi cabs door. His cousin was a lawyer, the taxi company almost instantly settled for $5k
 
These are just small few early lessons Ive learned not to depend on others for your survival, not anyone labeled with a specific title, and especially not government. Best to take care of your own problems, and defend yourself to the fullest, most others cant and wont do it for you especially if not blood.
 
Ron Paul Sounds Alarm on “Disturbing” Super Congress

Congressman warns new all-powerful committee will ram through tax hikes

Congressman Ron Paul warns that the all-powerful new “Super Congress” created by the vote on the debt ceiling will be used to fast-track tax increases while concentrating more power over the nation’s purse strings in the hands of the Washington elite.

Ron Paul said:
Perhaps the most disturbing aspect of this deal is the “Super Congress” provision. This is nothing more than a way to disenfranchise the majority of Congress by denying them the chance for meaningful participation in the crucial areas of entitlement and tax reform. It cedes power to draft legislation to a special commission, hand-picked by the House and Senate leadership. The legislation produced by this commission will be fast-tracked, and Members will not have the opportunity to offer amendments. Approval of the recommendations of the “Super Congress” is tied to yet another debt ceiling increase. This guarantees that Members will face tremendous pressure to vote for whatever comes out of this commission-- even if it includes tax increases. This provision is an excellent way to keep spending decisions out of the reach of members who are not on board with the leadership's agenda.
Whole statement here:
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was the super congress in the debt bill that passed? I wasn't so sure.

I know it was approved by the house yesterday,

The way it looks, and Ron Paul calling it "the all-powerful new “Super Congress” created by the vote on the debt ceiling" it looks like its set in stone ready to be established. Not positive yet, looks to unreal to be true..I have to pinch myelf or hit myself over the head with an aluminum bat first.

First Obama establishes the official Executive dictatorship...and now we have a 2nd branch of dictatorship, wtf is the matter with this country? Before you know it, we will have a Dictator in the Supreme Court over-riding all the other judges.
 
Attention to all on anabolicminds. total tyranny is being released on the United States of America. The elite have just formed a new branch of government, and no longer to any of the House of Representatives/Congress we elect will have a say on choices that really matter. The debt deal is an absolute game changer in American Politics, and this officially supercharges up full steam ahead to the end of Democracy here in America. I warned everybody that the issues arent the debt, but the policy and now policy is at a worse state than ever...and as they finalized the debt deal they plotted and established the "Council of 13" dictatorship.

GOA Chief: Super Congress 'Will Lead Us Into Dictatorship'
Paul Joseph Watson
August 3, 2011
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Gun Owners of America chief Larry Pratt warns that the new “Super Congress” created by the debt deal will lead America into dictatorship, labeling the move a “coup d’état” by the political class aimed at transforming the entire structure of government in the United States.
Comparing the super committee to Plato’s council, Pratt pointed out that it would take just 34 Senate votes to sustain a bill put forward by the group, noting that it has been set up specifically to prevent lawmakers getting in the way of its agenda by necessitating a super majority to overturn anything introduced by the committee.
“The first act of the next Congress hopefully is going to be to repeal this horrible piece of legislation, Pratt told the Alex Jones Show, adding that the committee could be used to target gun owners, property owners, taxpayers and businesses.
“This is a game changer, they’ve decided that we don’t need the House of Representatives to originate revenue bills, we’ll just have the ‘super 12′ do that,” said Pratt, adding that Barack Obama would become the de facto deciding 13th member.
Legislation decided on by the Super Congress would be immune from amendment and lawmakers would only be able to register an up or down vote, eliminating the ability to filibuster.
Pratt warned that John Boehner and Mitch McConnell would appoint “wusses” to the committee, a point emphasized by reports which indicate lawmakers who voted against the debt hike Invalid Link Removed. Just two weeks ago McConnell himself argued that the power of the purse, constitutionally ascribed to Congress, Invalid Link Removed.

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Pratt noted how the debt bill was passed on the back of Invalid Link Removed that warned of an economic apocalypse if an agreement was not reached.

“They had us all breathless that the country, if we didn’t have something happening today, was going to default. That was a lie and they continued to use it even after members of Congress explained many times, no we don’t default….they stampeded a lot of members of Congress into this,” said Pratt, adding that lawmakers figuratively had a gun put to their head.
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The legislation is aimed at discovering “what special interests are trying to influence the committee,” according to Vitter.
“We’re talking trillions in cuts, and there are already threats to increase taxes on many job creators. We need to see full transparency and accountability because these committee members will be making huge decisions with a lot on the line,” he added.
The whole partisan theater behind the debt debate appears to have been largely “manufactured,” as Invalid Link Removed, as a smokescreen behind which to implement the unconstitutional Super Congress. The so-called “cuts” enshrined in the debt deal aren’t even cuts.

Talking points based around the notion that the “Tea Party won the debt battle” are a complete misnomer. All the bill does is put spending caps on already planned expenditures towards the end of a ten year period. Invalid Link Removed, yet a further crippling $9.5 trillion will be added in debt over the next decade.

Watch the interview with Larry Pratt below.



 
I think its funny that although approval of Obama's and Congress' handling of the whole thing is low, still a majority believe the debt ceiling shouldn't have been raised. :)
 
I think its funny that although approval of Obama's and Congress' handling of the whole thing is low, still a majority believe the debt ceiling shouldn't have been raised. :)

I dont think they really care much about people's approvals on big issues as these. I dont think the debt ceiling should have been raised either, I agree.
 
I dont think they really care much about people's approvals on big issues as these. I dont think the debt ceiling should have been raised either, I agree.

yep, not like we had to default either, debt repayment is less than 10% of government spending, even if we clipped all spending by 30%, it doesn't mean we'd need to not pay the debt payments.
 
yep, not like we had to default either, debt repayment is less than 10% of government spending, even if we clipped all spending by 30%, it doesn't mean we'd need to not pay the debt payments.

They had to give an illusion of potential default in order to accomplish a power grab. Fact, the "debt ceiling deal" created a new branch of government.

Its all historic government tactics of "Problem, Reaction, Solution" Basically they create a crisis (or capitalize on one, they are not all created), people react to the crisis and there government is with the solution. Thats how so much slips by.

As Rahm Emanual states, "Never let a good crisis go to waste."
 
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Breaking News: Feds Caught Shipping Cocaine into U.S.

Documents: Feds allegedly allowed Sinaloa cartel to move cocaine into U.S. for information

By Diana Washington Valdez / El Paso Times
Posted: 08/03/2011 06:58:42 PM MDT

U.S. federal agents allegedly allowed the Sinaloa drug cartel to traffic several tons of cocaine into the United States in exchange for information about rival cartels, according to court documents filed in a U.S. federal court.

The allegations are part of the defense of Vicente Zambada-Niebla, who was extradited to the United States to face drug-trafficking charges in Chicago. The court in Chicago held a status hearing today and ordered the U.S.

government to respond to Zambada-Niebla's motion containing the allegations by Sept. 11.

The case could prove to be a bombshell on par with the ATF's "Operation Fast and Furious," except that instead of U.S. guns being allowed to walk across the border, the Sinaloa cartel was allowed to bring drugs into the United States over a five-year period, the documents allege.

Zambada-Niebla, who worked for Joaquin "Chapo" Guzman Loera, is the son of Ismael "Mayo" Zambada-Garcia, another drug lord associated with the Sinaloa cartel.

Diana Washington Valdez may be reached at [email protected]; 546-6140.

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Ron Paul: ‘Super Congress’ a “Monstrous Creature”

Congressman warns new committee will be used to advance Obama’s regulatory agenda

Thursday, August 4, 2011

Congressman Ron Paul re-emphasized his opposition to the new Super Congress that has been created by the debt deal during an appearance on Lou Dobbs’ Fox Business show last night, labeling the committee a “monstrous creature” that will be used by the Obama administration to advance its regulatory agenda.

Ron Paul on FOX with Lou Dobbs: What's next for Congress?



Paul voted against the debt ceiling hike because of his belief that the problem of getting out of debt cannot be solved by creating more debt.
“It just digs the hole much deeper and makes it harder for us to get out,” Paul told Dobbs, adding that voting no was a much easier decision to make “when I saw the vehicle they were using to create this Super Congress.”
The Texan Congressman labeled the new committee “monstrous,” adding, “I keep and looking and looking and I can’t find any place in the Constitution where we have the authority to create such a creature as the Super Congress.”

Paul warned that the committee would act to fast-track regulations similar to how free trade agreements have been forced through in the past with little debate, pointing out that if Congress rejects the recommendations of the committee, authority will be transferred to the Office of Management and Budget, which is part of the executive branch.

Paul hit back at theInvalid Link Removed, having been unable to get laws passed on issues like CO2 emissions and gun control, attacking, “This whole idea that any bureacracy, that any agency can write all these regulations and they’re the law of the land.”


Critics have labeled the creation of the Super CongressInvalid Link Removed. Recommendations made by the committee, which will be headed up by Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Mitch McConnell and John Boehner, cannot be amended or filibustered. Congress can only vote yes or no. If the proposals are rejected, pre-arranged spending cuts are automatically triggered.

The committee has already taken steps to ensure that it will be little more than a tool for the Obama administration and RINO Republicans by Invalid Link Removed. This guarantees that Tea Party representatives like Senator Rand Paul will have no say in how the body operates.

Second Amendment advocacy groups like Gun Owners of America fear that the Super Congress could move beyond its effort to control the nation’s purse strings and Invalid Link Removed, a legitimate concern given the fact that Harry Reid has already insisted there will be “no constraints” on the committee and that it will have “the ability to look at everything.”

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Ron Paul: ‘Super Congress’ a “Monstrous Creature”

Congressman warns new committee will be used to advance Obama’s regulatory agenda

I'm less sure i'm as bothered by the super congress now that i've read more. Sure it does strip us of our right to representation, but as the debt ceiling being raised vs public opinion shows (more than 54% of americans even after the bill passed believe the debt ceiling shouldn't have been raised) its not like they particularly represent us anyway. But from all i've read so far, they only have budgetary rights, not legislative. They can set funding, and change taxation, not for instance legislate new emission standards. So i'm a little less bothered. Not like its a good thing, but they don't have full congressional rights.
 
I'm less sure i'm as bothered by the super congress now that i've read more. Sure it does strip us of our right to representation, but as the debt ceiling being raised vs public opinion shows (more than 54% of americans even after the bill passed believe the debt ceiling shouldn't have been raised) its not like they particularly represent us anyway. But from all i've read so far, they only have budgetary rights, not legislative. They can set funding, and change taxation, not for instance legislate new emission standards. So i'm a little less bothered. Not like its a good thing, but they don't have full congressional rights.

In red above, good point, whats the difference, lol

In blue above, you will see in the future that it will be legislative. The fake debt crisis was created as an initial power grab and which used the problem, reaction, solution tactic as a stepping stone that leads to other things. They will come up with another crisis, or big issue to hand them further powers and may influence all kinds of public policy across the board.

One of the first legislative actions I believe the Super Congress will be going after gun control.
 
I'm less sure i'm as bothered by the super congress now that i've read more. Sure it does strip us of our right to representation, but as the debt ceiling being raised vs public opinion shows (more than 54% of americans even after the bill passed believe the debt ceiling shouldn't have been raised) its not like they particularly represent us anyway. But from all i've read so far, they only have budgetary rights, not legislative. They can set funding, and change taxation, not for instance legislate new emission standards. So i'm a little less bothered. Not like its a good thing, but they don't have full congressional rights.

In red above, good point, whats the difference, lol but a issue is that it eliminates any chance of voting for anyone who may represent us.

In blue above, you will see in the future that it will be legislative. The fake debt crisis was created as an initial power grab and which used the problem, reaction, solution tactic as a stepping stone that leads to other things. They will come up with another crisis, or big issue to hand them further powers and may influence all kinds of public policy across the board.

One of the first legislative actions I believe the Super Congress will be going further enforcing gun control.
 
In red above, good point, whats the difference, lol but a issue is that it eliminates any chance of voting for anyone who may represent us.

In blue above, you will see in the future that it will be legislative. The fake debt crisis was created as an initial power grab and which used the problem, reaction, solution tactic as a stepping stone that leads to other things. They will come up with another crisis, or big issue to hand them further powers and may influence all kinds of public policy across the board.

One of the first legislative actions I believe the Super Congress will be going further enforcing gun control.

Really the only way I can see them effectively legislating is by putting onerous taxes on something. Like a 60% federal gun tax for instance could have that sort of effect, legislating guns out by cost. But still, it has to be voted for, and getting even a simple majority to vote for that is pretty well impossible.
 
Really the only way I can see them effectively legislating is by putting onerous taxes on something. Like a 60% federal gun tax for instance could have that sort of effect, legislating guns out by cost. But still, it has to be voted for, and getting even a simple majority to vote for that is pretty well impossible.

It only has to be voted by the Super Congress and put on Obama's desk. They dont need the votes from the representatives.
 
It only has to be voted by the Super Congress and put on Obama's desk. They dont need the votes from the representatives.

No, thats not true. Its just that it is sent to the house and senate for a straight yes/no vote, no amendments (and I think no debate), and no requiring 60 in the senate to end debate, just a simple majority vote.
 
No, thats not true. Its just that it is sent to the house and senate for a straight yes/no vote, no amendments (and I think no debate), and no requiring 60 in the senate to end debate, just a simple majority vote.

I see, it bypasses congress but it goes through the Senate to vote on...I think most of those schmucks all are in on it anyways when it comes to comes to big issues that matter, both dems and republicans. Basically, and I understand you if you disagree in it but I believe the game is all rigged.

I think that this is just a start I wouldnt come to conclusions if I were you yet based on what is set for now. They will just establish more powers in the near future, the same way the Executive has given that office its own illegal powers such as going to wars without consulting congress for just 1 example.

The fact that they are ripping and ripping the constitution apart is disturbing to me. The power went from congress to an elite 12.
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Some of the things in plan were to just send the "power of the purse" to Obama, and give him (and whoever is there) more dictatorship privileges.
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Oh yeah, its still terrible, unconstitutional, and likely will get expanded to worse over time. But its not as bad as I originally had thought.
 
Oh yeah, its still terrible, unconstitutional, and likely will get expanded to worse over time. But its not as bad as I originally had thought.

Understood...It may not be as bad as originally thought..to start, I just have a habit of looking everything going on now and jumping 10-20 and even 50 years ahead and basing my thought process off of that. Makes it hard for me to communicate with people sometimes, lol
 
Understood...It may not be as bad as originally thought..to start, I just have a habit of looking everything going on now and jumping 10-20 and even 50 years ahead and basing my thought process off of that. Makes it hard for me to communicate with people sometimes, lol

most people until they hit late 30s and/or have kids don't really look that far forwards. I can see how this will get worse, but overally we're headed to total disaster in the next 50-60 years almost regardless of what we do.
 
Some of the things in plan were to just send the "power of the purse" to Obama, and give him (and whoever is there) more dictatorship privileges.

In some ways it seems like having a dictatorship might be better (or not worse)... it's not like my "representatives" represent me in any real way, and I can't vote on anything significant anyway. :/
 
In some ways it seems like having a dictatorship might be better (or not worse)... it's not like my "representatives" represent me in any real way, and I can't vote on anything significant anyway. :/

Isnt the representatives not representing you (or what we voted them in for) already a dictatorship in a way?

Any true dictatorship such as Stalin, or Mao Tse Tung are always looking to further consolidate power both on a domestic and global level. Same goes for our government, its already a dictatorship trying to consolidate power. Democrats and Republicans already consolidated power...they just want more.
 
The Mysterious Death of Osama bin Laden: Creating Evidence Where There Is None

Dr. Paul Craig Roberts
Aug 5, 2011

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There is no useful information in the story. Its purpose seems simply to explain away or cover up holes in the original story, principally why did the Seals murder an unarmed, unresisting Osama bin Laden whose capture would have resulted in a goldmine of terrorist information and whose show trial would have rescued the government’s crumbling 9/11 story?
The gullible Schmidle tells us: “‘There was never any question of detaining or capturing him–it wasn’t a split-second decision. No one wanted detainees,’ the special-operations officer told me.” In other words, the SEALs murdered bin Laden, because the US government did not want detainees, not because trigger-happy stupid SEALs destroyed a font of terrorist information.
Why did the SEALS dump bin Laden’s body in the ocean instead of producing the evidence to a skeptical world?
No real explanation, just that SEALS had done the same thing to other victims. Schmidle writes: “All along, the SEALs had planned to dump bin Laden’s corpse into the sea–a blunt way of ending the bin Laden myth.” But before they did so, the US checked with an unidentified Saudi intelligence operative, who allegedly replied, “Your plan sounds like a good one.”
I mean, really.
After all of Sy Hersh’s New Yorker revelations of US government lies and plots, one can understand the pressure that might have been applied to the New Yorker to publish this fairy tale. But what is extraordinary is that there was a real story that Schmidle and the New Yorker could have investigated.


In the immediate aftermath of bin Laden’s alleged murder by the SEALs, Pakistani TV interviewed the next door neighbor to bin Laden’s alleged compound. Someone supplied the video with an English translation running at the bottom of the video. According to the translation, the next door neighbor, Mr. Bashir, said that he watched the entire operation from the roof of his house. There were 3 helicopters. Only 1 landed. About a dozen men got out and entered the house. They shortly returned and boarded the helicopter. When the helicopter lifted off it exploded, killing all aboard. Mr. Bashir reports seeing bodies and pieces of bodies all over.
The US government acknowledges that it lost a helicopter, but claims no one was hurt. Obviously, as there were no further landings, if everyone was killed as Mr. Bashir reports, there was no body to be dumped into the ocean.
A real investigation would begin with Mr. Bashir’s interview. Was he actually saying what the English translation reported? I have not been able to find the interview with the English translation, but I believe this is the interview that I saw. Invalid Link RemovedInvalid Link Removed

Surely there is a qualified interpreter who can tell us what Mr. Bashir is saying. If the English translation that I saw is not a hoax, then we are presented with a story totally different from the one the government told us and repeated again through Mr. Schmidle.
If the English translation of Mr. Bashir’s interview is correct, one would think that there would be some interest on the part of US news organizations and on the part of the intelligence committees in Congress to question Mr. Bashir and his neighbors, many of whom are also Invalid Link RemovedInvalid Link Removedsaying that they have lived in Abbottabad all their lives and are absolutely certain that Osama bin Laden was not among them.

Mr. Schmidle goes to lengths to describe the SEALs’ weapons, although his story makes it clear that no weapons were needed as bin Laden is described as “unarmed” and undefended. The “startled” bin Laden didn’t even hear the helicopters or all the SEALs coming up the stairs. In addition to all his fatal illnesses which most experts believe killed him a decade ago, bin Laden must have been deaf as neighbors report that the sound of the helicopters was “intense.”
When Pakistanis on the scene in Abbottabad report a totally different story from the one that reaches us second and third hand from unidentified operatives speaking to reporters in the US who have never been to Abbottabad, shouldn’t someone qualified look into the story?

Paul Craig Roberts, a former Assistant Secretary of the US Treasury and former associate editor of the Wall Street Journal, has been reporting shocking cases of prosecutorial abuse for two decades. A new edition of his book,Invalid Link RemovedInvalid Link Removed, co-authored with Lawrence Stratton, a documented account of how Americans lost the protection of law, has been released by Random House.
 
By: Rania Khalek

6 Creepy New Weapons the Police and Military Use To Subdue Unarmed People

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From microwave energy blasters and blinding laser beams to chemical agents and deafening sonic blasters, these weapons are at the cutting edge of crowd control.
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The Pentagon's approved term for these weapons is "non-lethal" or "less-lethal" and they are intended for use against the unarmed


The US is at the forefront of an international arms development effort that includes a remarkable assortment of technologies, which look and sound like they belong in a Hollywood science fiction thriller. From microwave energy blasters and blinding laser beams, to chemical agents and deafening sonic blasters, these weapons are at the cutting edge of crowd control.

. Designed to control crowds, clear streets, subdue and restrain individuals and secure borders, they are the 21st century's version of the police baton, pepper spray and tear gas. As journalist Invalid Link Removed puts it, "The result is what appears to be the first arms race in which the opponent is the general population."

The demand for non-lethal weapons (NLW) is rooted in the rise of television. In the 1960s and '70s the medium let everyday Americans witness the violent tactics used to suppress the civil rights and anti-war movements.
Today’s rapid advancements in media and telecommunications technologies allow people to record and publicize images and video of undue force more than ever before. Authorities are well aware of how images of violence play out publicly. In 1997, a joint report from theInvalid Link Removed warned:
"A further consideration that affects how the military and law enforcement apply force is the greater presence of members of the media or other civilians who are observing, if not recording, the situation. Even the lawful application of force can be misrepresented to or misunderstood by the public. More than ever, the police and the military must be highly discreet when applying force."
The global economic collapse coupled with the unpredictable and increasingly catastrophic consequences of climate change and resource scarcity, along with a new era of austerity defined by rising unemployment and glaring inequality have already led to massive protests in Spain, Greece, Egypt, and even Madison, Wisconsin. From the progressive era to the Great Depression to the civil rights movement, Americans have a rich history of taking to the streets to demand greater equality.
Meanwhile, tens of millions of dollars have been invested in the research and development of more media-friendly weapons for everyday policing and crowd control. This has lead to a trade-in of old school weapons for more exotic and controversial technologies. The following are six of the most outrageous "non-lethal" weapons that will define the future of crowd control.
1. The Invisible Pain Ray: The 'Holy Grail of Crowd Control'

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It sounds like a weapon out of Star Wars. TheInvalid Link Removed, or ADS, works like an open-air microwave oven, projecting a focused beam of electromagnetic radiation to heat the skin of its targets to 130 degrees. This creates an intolerable burning sensation forcing those in its path to instinctively flee (a response the Air Force dubs the "Invalid Link Removed").
The Pentagon's Invalid Link Removed (JNLWP) Invalid Link Removed, "This capability will add to the ability to stop, deter and turn back an advancing adversary, providing an alternative to lethal force." Although ADS is described as non-lethal, a 2008 Invalid Link Removed by physicist and less-lethal weapons expert Dr. Jürgen Altmann suggests otherwise:
" ... the ADS provides the technical possibility to produce burns of second and third degree. Because the beam of diameter 2 m and above is wider than human size, such burns would occur over considerable parts of the body, up to 50% of its surface. Second- and third-degree burns covering more than 20% of the body surface are potentially life-threatening – due to toxic tissue-decay products and increased sensitivity to infection – and require intensive care in a specialized unit. Without a technical device that reliably prevents re-triggering on the same target subject, the ADS has a potential to produce permanent injury or death. "
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While the weapon may be too controversial for use on the battlefield, it appears that nothing is too sadistic for use on US prisoners, so the ADS has since been modified into a smaller version by Raytheon, for use in law enforcement. Last year, the renamed Assault Intervention System (AIS) was Invalid Link Removed at the Pitchess Detention Center's North County Correction Facility at the behest of the Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department (LASD). Former LASD Commander, Invalid Link Removedhad been lobbying for the pain ray for years, calling it the "Invalid Link Removed," due to its ability to make people scatter almost instantly.
The device is Invalid Link Removedby a jail officer with a joystick, and is intended to break up prison riots, inmate brawls and prevent assaults on officers.Invalid Link Removed added that it would allow officers to quickly intervene without having to physically enter the area to incapacitate prisoners.
The ACLU Invalid Link Removedthat use of such a device on American prisoners is "tantamount to torture." The organization even Invalid Link Removed to the sheriff in charge, demanding he never use the energy weapon against inmates. “The idea that a military weapon designed to cause intolerable pain should be used against county jail inmates is staggeringly wrongheaded,” Invalid Link RemovedMargaret Winter, associate director of the ACLU National Prison Project. “Unnecessarily inflicting severe pain and taking such unnecessary risks with people’s lives is a clear violation of the Eighth Amendment and due process clause of the U.S. Constitution.”
The pain ray’s use in the Pitchess Detention Center is a pilot program. If successful, the weapon could find its way into other prisons around the country. The National Institute of Justice has also Invalid Link Removed in a hand-held, rifle-sized, short-range weapon that could be effective at tens of feet for law enforcement officials.
2. The Laser Blinding 'Dazzler'
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So what is the purpose of this light-shooting toy? Well, it won't kill you, but it will temporarily blind you — or as the NIJ prefers to say, it will "dazzle" you into disorientation — by shooting you with two low*-power diode*-pumped lasers.
Invalid Link Removed, the Blinding Laser Protocol of the United Nations Convention on Conventional Weapons, states that, "The use of laser weapons that are specifically designed, as their sole combat function or as one of their combat functions, to cause permanent blindness to unenhanced vision is prohibited."
After the US agreed to the Invalid Link Removed under President Clinton, the Pentagon was forced to cancel several blinding laser weapon programs that were in the works. But the PHaSR rifle can skirt this regulation because the blinding effect is apparently temporary due to its low-intensity laser.
According to a Invalid Link Removed, "The laser light from PHaSR temporarily impairs aggressors by dazzling them with one wavelength. The second wavelength causes a repel effect that discourages advancing aggressors.” The JNLWP website Invalid Link Removed that a significant amount of research and experimentation is still required to gain a full understanding of the safety, military effectiveness, and limitations of these future capabilities.
3. The Taser on Steroids
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The Invalid Link Removed in its arsenal. Most of us are familiar with hand-held Tasers and understand that they only work if the police are standing pretty close to you (about 20 feet).
But Taser has developed the Invalid Link Removed, a 12-gauge shotgun that instead of firing lethal bullet rounds, is designed to fire Taser projectile rounds. Known as Invalid Link Removed (XREP), the XREP cartridge is a self-contained, wireless projectile that delivers the same neuro-muscular incapacitation bio-effect (a fancy way of saying electric shock) as the handheld Taser, but up to 100 feet.
According to a July 21Invalid Link Removed, Taser International has taken the XREP to the next level, teaming up with the Australian electronic gun company Metal Storm to enhance the 12-gaugeInvalid Link Removed(MAUL).
The two companies will combine Metal Storm's MAUL stacked projectile technology to "provide semi-automatic fire as fast as the operator can squeeze the trigger," which boasts a full weapon reload of up to five rounds in less than two seconds. Picture five rounds of Taser XREP cartridges flying out in less than two seconds up to 30 yards away -- that is the plan.
In September 2010 Raw Story Invalid Link Removedthat the rate of Taser-related deaths were on the rise. The story cited an Amnesty International report from 2008 that found 351 Taser-related deaths in the US between June 2001 and August 2008, a rate of just slightly above four deaths per month. AboutInvalid Link Removedof the victims were unarmed and did not appear to pose any serious threat, according to an article in the Boston Review. The Amnesty report points out that Tasers are “inherently open to abuse as they are easy to carry and easy to use and they can inflict severe pain at the push of a button without leaving substantial marks.“ In Amnesty's US 2010 report, the Taser-related death toll had Invalid Link Removed. If the MAUL-Taser combined shooter find its way into police departments around the country, it may not bode well for the rate of Taser-related deaths.
Another project of Taser International, which was unveiled in 2009, is the Invalid Link Removed, which blankets a large area with electrified darts, and a wireless Taser projectile with a 100-meter range, helpful for picking off “ringleaders” in unruly crowds. In 2007, Taser's French distributorInvalid Link Removed for a stun-gun-equipped flying saucer that fires stun darts at criminal suspects or rioters; however, it has yet to be unveiled. Clearly there is no limit to Taser International’s capacity for creativity.
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4. Calmative Agents for Riot Control
Calmatives are chemical or biological agents with sedative, sleep-inducing or similar psychoactive effects. Although the 1997 Chemical Weapons Convention prohibits the use of riot control agents in warfare, JNWLP and NIJ have Invalid Link Removed calmatives for both military and law enforcement applications, such as dispersing a crowd, controlling a riot or calming a noncompliant offender.

The most well-known and widely used riot-control agents are tear gas (CS) and chloroacetophenone (CN), also known as mace. A few ways that more advanced non-lethal calmatives Invalid Link Removed, depending on the law enforcement environment, would include a topical or transdermal skin application, an aerosol spray, an intramuscular dart, or a rubber bullet filled with an inhalable agent.

In the March 2010 issue of Harper's magazine, Ando Arike gives an extensive overview of riot control technology in his article "Invalid Link Removed." He wrote:
Pentagon interest in “advanced riot-control agents” has long been an open secret, but just how close we are to seeing these agents in action was revealed in 2002, when the Sunshine Project, an arms-control group based in Austin, Texas, posted on the Internet a trove of Pentagon documents uncovered through the Freedom of Information Act. Among these was a fifty-page study titled “The Advantages and Limitations of Calmatives for Use as a Non-Lethal Technique,” conducted by Penn State’s Applied Research Laboratory, home of the JNLWD-sponsored Institute for Non-Lethal Defense Technologies.
Penn State’s College of Medicine researchers agreed, contrary to accepted principles of medical ethics, that “the development and use of non-lethal calmative techniques is both achievable and desirable,” and identified a large number of promising drug candidates, including benzodiazepines like Valium, serotonin-reuptake inhibitors like Prozac, and opiate derivatives like morphine, fentanyl, and carfentanyl, the last commonly used by veterinarians to sedate large animals. The only problems they saw were in developing effective delivery vehicles and regulating dosages, but these problems could be solved readily, they recommended, through strategic partnerships with the pharmaceutical industry.
Little more was heard about the Pentagon’s “advanced riot-control agent” program until July 2008, when the Army announced that production was scheduled for its XM1063 “non-lethal personal suppression projectile,” an artillery shell that bursts in midair over its target, scattering 152 canisters over a 100,000-square-foot area, each dispersing a chemical agent as it parachutes down. There are many indications that a calmative, such as fentanyl, is the intended payload—a literal opiate of the masses.
5. Screaming Microwaves That Pierce the Skull
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Source: Wired


Researchers are in the process of developing the Invalid Link Removed or MEDUSA (that's right, from Greek mythology), which uses a beam of microwaves to induce uncomfortable auditory sensations in the skull. The device Invalid Link Removed, in which short microwave pulses rapidly heat tissue, causing a shockwave inside the skull that can be detected by the ears. MEDUSA’s audio effect is loud enough to cause discomfort or even incapacitation. It may also Invalid Link Removed from the high-intensity shockwave created by the microwave pulse.

MEDUSA's intended purpose is deterring crowds from entering a protected perimeter, like a nuclear site, and temporarily incapacitating unruly individuals. So far the weapon remains in development and is funded by the Navy.
6. Ear-Splitting Siren
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TheInvalid Link Removed, or LRAD, built by American Technology Corporation, focuses and broadcasts sound over ranges of up to hundreds of yards. LRAD has been around for years, but Americans first took notice when police used it in Pittsburgh to ward off protesters at the Invalid Link Removed. It is generally used in Invalid Link Removed: as a megaphone to order protesters to disperse; or, if they disobey, as an “ear-splitting siren” to drive them away. While LRAD may not be deadly, it Invalid Link Removed, depending on how it’s used.

Similar sonic blasters have proven deadly. One is the Thunder Generator, an Israeli-developed shock wave cannon used by farmers to scare away crop-threatening bird. According to a Defense News reportlast year, the Israeli Ministry of Defense has licensed a firm called ArmyTec to Invalid Link Removed for military and security applications.

It works using gas from a cylinder of domestic liquid petroleum, which is mixed with air and then detonated, producing a series of high-intensity blasts. Patented “pulse detonation” technology ensures high-decibel blasts. With an effective range of up to 50 meters, the makers say it is extremely loud but will not do any lasting damage. They warn, however, that within 10 meters the Thunder Generator could Invalid Link Removed.

The Impact
The application of pain to control or coerce people into submission helps achieve the desired aims of perception management, while sheltering the public from the brutality of such devices.
Perhaps these less-lethal tactics for crowd control do result in fewer injuries. But they also severely weaken our capacity to enact political change. Authorities have ever more creative ways to manage dissent, at a time when the need for change by popular demand is vital to the future of our society and the planet.

G20 Pittsburg Military Police attack civilians with LRAD

 
I can't believe you missed this

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The military "cleaning up" seal team 6 so nobody can tell the truth.....
 
I can't believe you missed this

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The military "cleaning up" seal team 6 so nobody can tell the truth.....

Didnt miss it, but excellent post though! Ill contribute to that.

Magically they killed the seals from the same group of the "Bin Laden Raid,"

Alex Jones already predicted this would happen, now it happened, but he was a "conspiracy theorist" so lets pretend he never predicted it.

Deaths of SEAL Team 6 Exposed

Aaron Dykes & Alex Jones
Infowars.com
August 6, 2011
Invalid Link Removed are reporting a statistically impossible tragedy for U.S. forces in Afghanistan– that of the 38 NATO forces killed in a helicopter crash Friday night, “more than 20″ were members of SEAL Team 6, the covert unit that took credit for killing Osama bin Laden in May.

Mainstream sources are seizing upon claims that the Invalid Link Removed for downing the helicopter, but that means nothing. Media instantly ran reports that Invalid Link Removed for the bombing & shootings in Norway; moreover, anyone on a message board can make such claims.

Instead, Alex Jones predicted shortly after the raid on bin Laden’s compound that SEALs would soon be reported dead in a helicopter crash or staged incident following multiple reports from military sources who’ve proved accurate in the past, including on-air callers, that SEALs did indeed die during the raid. Official stories admitted Invalid Link Removed that a helicopter went down during the mission, but claimed there were no deaths of U.S. forces.



Below is Alex’s report on the breaking news of SEAL Team 6′s official demise:


Infowars is on the record reporting that members of Seal Team 6 died in the so called OBL raid. The government admits that a super secret helicopter did crash during the OBL raid but says no one died, our intel is different. We predicted that the spin doctors would stage a crash or when a real crash took place that they would say the SEALs died then. This is a old trick that governments all over the world have been caught pulling in the past. Some speculate that Obama had the team killed to cover up what really happened; however our intel does not point that way. The Pentagon may have blown the helicopter up on the ground on the night of the raid and we cover that in the above video. Lastly the globalist MSM is reporting that terrorist have taken credit but that is notoriously filled with disinfo, like in the Norway attack when a fake terrorist group took credit and the media ran with it.

According to the sources, military personnel internally admit to the SEAL deaths, however it was not clear whether it had been the result of an accidental crash, from a firefight with Pakistani military forces stationed only a short distance from the compound, or whether, as Pakistani eyewitnesses indicated (below), the helicopter exploded after covert forces entered.

Whatever the true story, one thing is clear: dead men tell no tales. The inconvenient truth is that governments throughout history have disposed of heroes, covert troops and special forces to keep the real story from coming out. Helicopter and plane crashes have been one of the favorite methods for tying up these loose ends.

Abbottabad residents told CCTV reporters they don’t believe Osama bin Laden was ever at this compund and that the operation was a ‘hoax’. Pakistan’s anti-terrorist squad also could not confirm the killing, according to reports.

EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW-OBL Operation Was Not Successful(Eye Witness Claims)


Pakistani eyewitnesses to the Abbottabad raid on Osama’s reputed compound reported that a U.S. helicopter exploded and that Americans died, despite the fact that mainstream media reports Invalid Link Removed in the raid. The crash was reported but remains little explained.

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In the immediate aftermath of bin Laden’s alleged murder by the SEALs, Pakistani TV interviewed the next door neighbor to bin Laden’s alleged compound. Someone supplied the video with an English translation running at the bottom of the video. According to the translation, the next door neighbor, Mr. Bashir, said that he watched the entire operation from the roof of his house. There were 3 helicopters. Only 1 landed. About a dozen men got out and entered the house. They shortly returned and boarded the helicopter. When the helicopter lifted off it exploded, killing all aboard. Mr. Bashir reports seeing bodies and pieces of bodies all over.
The US government acknowledges that it lost a helicopter, but claims no one was hurt. Obviously, as there were no further landings, if everyone was killed as Mr. Bashir reports, there was no body to be dumped into the ocean.
SEAL Team 6 was Invalid Link Removed in 1987, becoming the Naval Special Warfare Development Group, with its command structure transferred to Invalid Link Removed. The unit’s true nature and even numbers are unknown.

This May 17 Invalid Link Removed article would revise the official account of events, admitting to the crash incident:
Aboard two Black Hawk helicopters were 23 SEALs, an interpreter and a tracking dog named Cairo. Nineteen SEALs would enter the compound, and three of them would find bin Laden, one official said, providing the exact numbers for the first time.
Aboard the Chinooks were two dozen more SEALs, as backup.
[...] The plan unraveled as the first helicopter tried to hover over the compound. The Black Hawk skittered around uncontrollably in the heat-thinned air, forcing the pilot to land. As he did, the tail and rotor got caught on one of the compound’s 12-foot walls. The pilot quickly buried the aircraft’s nose in the dirt to keep it from tipping over, and the SEALs clambered out into an outer courtyard.
[...] It took approximately 15 minutes to reach bin Laden, one official said. The next 23 or so were spent blowing up the broken chopper, after rounding up nine women and 18 children to get them out of range of the blast.
**NOTE TO LISTENERS: Please help us locate the previous statements from Alex, as well as callers, shortly following the May 1 OBL raid pertaining to the predictions of a coming helicopter crash or other staged event.
 
wow 9/11 discussion, glad to see the fire is still burning. any american citizen should be furious at this government. I love this country but our leaders and law makers are all focked up

I remember being called a crazy traitor terrorist back in 06', 07' when i was preachin 9/11 was an inside job. Handing out DVD's of Powerhours "in plane sight".

Man I got attacked, on here and some car forums in 04'-06' and almost anytime i brought the subject up. ALOT of the discussions on here mysteriously disappeared. lol Never infracted though, just told to place nice.
 
wow 9/11 discussion, glad to see the fire is still burning. any american citizen should be furious at this government. I love this country but our leaders and law makers are all focked up

I remember being called a crazy traitor terrorist back in 06', 07' when i was preachin 9/11 was an inside job. Handing out DVD's of Powerhours "in plane sight".

Man I got attacked, on here and some car forums in 04'-06' and almost anytime i brought the subject up. ALOT of the discussions on here mysteriously disappeared. lol Never infracted though, just told to place nice.

Welcome to my thread (or blog, lol,) come by anytime. 9/11 is the main focus, but also this is the place to talk about anything and I often post about government corruption, economy, domestic policy, constitution, obama's fake birth certificate, etc....

Feel free to post anything interesting you may run in to also :)

Just so you know, I also have a TSA Police State specific thread as well. I like to keep the TSA stuff there and not here.
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Seal Team 6 Crash Was An Inside Job

Alex Jones
Infowars.com
August 7, 2011

Related post #482 just above ^^^^

This is reportedly the largest one day loss of troops in the 10 year war in Afghanistan and it just happens to be Seal Team 6. So now we are to buy that the men who took out OBL died in a helicopter crash months after pulling off the raid. Our inside sources told us months ago that all the Seals on the helicopter that crashed in the so called OBL raid died, yet the Obama admin says none were killed.

Witnesses on the ground in Pakistan told national News outlets that the Seals went in to the compound then came out got in a stealth craft and it exploded. The video with the witnesses is posted on Infowars.com in our news report titled "Seal Team 6 Deaths Exposed". Now the globalists may have killed off the rest of the Seal team that made it out in the other stealth helicopter from the OBL raid to tie up loose ends. Bottom line the official bin Laden raid story is a proven fraud so it is no wonder that this story dose not add up.

 
This is just disrespectful to the 37 men who lost their lives yesterday. They put more on the line than you ever will and endured far greater than you can imagine to become elite. They deserve respect, not your ridiculous theories that detract from their life
 
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This is just disrespectful to the 37 men who lost their lives yesterday. They put more on the line than you ever will and endured far greater than you can imagine to become elite. They deserve respect, not your ridiculous theories that detract from their life

The men themselves deserve our respect and nobody here would deny that, but it doesn't mean they died yesterday rather than months ago. We've gone 10 years in Afghanistan without any helicopter loss of life due to rockets and the first one happens to contain seal team 6? What are the odds mathematically of that ?
 
This is just disrespectful to the 37 men who lost their lives yesterday. They put more on the line than you ever will and endured far greater than you can imagine to become elite. They deserve respect, not your ridiculous theories that detract from their life

Im sorry you feel this is disrespectful, but its my personal duty and the duty of the American people to inform each other of government corruption and spread the truth of what happened to our soldiers.

What those soldiers deserve is for people to know the truth, and the criminals who took their lives to be sentenced so this doesnt happen again.
 
Breaking News!!

Sources: Seal Team 6 Was Murdered

TheAlexJonesChannel
August 7, 2011

The SEALs team has reportedly been extremely angry about the fabricated OBL raid and ready to talk. Alex Jones to bring sources on air tomorrow LIVE at 11 AM CST



More to come tomorrow on this latest breaking news!
 
Pentagon Edits Number of Dead SEALs in Afghan Copter Downing

Modifications are reported without comment by lapdog corporate media.

Pentagon Changes It's Story on death of SEAL Team 6, Number of SEALs Killed Changes From 22 To 17


Also, as I predicted they are making a propaganda film about the phony Bin Laden assassination.

Obama under fire for giving Hurt Locker director access to Navy SEALs to make Bin Laden film

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Ron Paul's message hits America

Last night the GOP presidential candidates went head to head in a debate. Many of the issues plaguing the US were talked about but one voice emerged over the rest. Ron Paul was given a lot of air-time to make his points which some people have complained about. Is a new era of political thought around the bend? Kristine Frazao is in Iowa to tell us more.



Ron Paul on FOX News 08/12/11


Ron Pauls Iowa Fox GOP Debate Question & Answers Highlights

 
You and I both know Paul is not getting the nod. It will be Romney or Perry (god help me). Big government regardless of party.
 
You and I both know Paul is not getting the nod. It will be Romney or Perry (god help me). Big government regardless of party.

I dont think he is going to win either, even if he did the Republicans dont even have to nominate him. Plus other factors I wont get into but whats important to me is the movement, not winning. As long as the movement is moving forward thats victory to me. If the movement is moving backward its still victory to me. Whats important is not selling out and/or giving up.
 
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You and I both know Paul is not getting the nod. It will be Romney or Perry (god help me). Big government regardless of party.

I'm not sure. I think from all I can tell we will at least have some shrink, even if Obama wins again. All the republican congress agree with a 10:1 spending cut:tax hike ratio, and basically over the next president's term the economy won't get much better, and raising the debt ceiling will get harder each year. So definitely some government shrinkage.
 
I'm not sure. I think from all I can tell we will at least have some shrink, even if Obama wins again. All the republican congress agree with a 10:1 spending cut:tax hike ratio, and basically over the next president's term the economy won't get much better, and raising the debt ceiling will get harder each year. So definitely some government shrinkage.

I think their version of government shrinkage may be to extend their current 5 week vacation to 6 weeks. Thats 1 week more of shrinkage, lol.
 
I'm not sure. I think from all I can tell we will at least have some shrink, even if Obama wins again. All the republican congress agree with a 10:1 spending cut:tax hike ratio, and basically over the next president's term the economy won't get much better, and raising the debt ceiling will get harder each year. So definitely some government shrinkage.

With the expansion of Wars, the Police State, FEMA and other government agencies backed by black budgets, overseas banks, the Federal Reserve, etc....I only see an increase in government and spending (or at least/combination of transfer of spending) no matter which side is in power.
 
With the expansion of Wars, the Police State, FEMA and other government agencies backed by black budgets, overseas banks, the Federal Reserve, etc....I only see an increase in government and spending (or at least/combination of transfer of spending) no matter which side is in power.

I'm less sure. The voters are clear, and the rating agencies are clear as well (and so is China). The deficit is too large to sustain, and the economy is too fragile to raise taxes much. So spending has to go down to lower the deficit. Of course, as soon as we get AAA back, i'm sure it will be spend spend spend again.
 
I'm less sure. The voters are clear, and the rating agencies are clear as well (and so is China). The deficit is too large to sustain, and the economy is too fragile to raise taxes much. So spending has to go down to lower the deficit. Of course, as soon as we get AAA back, i'm sure it will be spend spend spend again.

I think that what China says is all phony anyways. I dont think they would care much if they lost 1 trillion or so dollars as much as seeing America totally collapse and China becoming the worlds biggest economy, and the worlds biggest ruler. They are just trying to make things sustain and bleed America for all they can during their transitional phase, as at the moment this is how they are capitalizing and leveraging some of their powers.

The Chinese arent satisfied until they rule and conquer the universe.
 
Just a quick vent....

The next time I see Michelle Backmann on CNN speaking as is she is the voice and forefront of the Tea Party movement I swear Im going to kill myself!

(no, but you know what I mean)
 
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