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Best NO supplement vasodiolator

jpizz631

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First, let me say that i am NOT asking about pre-workout products.

I was using nitrix, but i guess thats not the best one. I was thinking of getting arginine but i heard citrulline malate was the best. Or is something better than citrulline malate? Thanks
 
Arginine is not a NO increaser regardless of what the majority of support companies try to tell everyone.

The ingredients that are proven to increase NO are:

Agmagine sulfate
Citrulline(citrulline malate)
Nitrates
L-Norvaline
GPLC


The best source for the majority of those ingredients is in hemavol(now available in both pills/powder). The reviews are beyond stellar. While you may be looking for bulk powders, I highly suggest you look into hemavol...it will blow nitrix away by so much you won't believe it.
 
C-BOL by Thermolife

Its Creatine Nitrate and N.O.

Nothing BUT great reviews,i believe theres some logs.

Foud a few.....

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Here are some of the initial reviews...

Well the initial reviews are starting to pour in...lets take a look!



LemonDrop HemaVol
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Thanks to VaughnTrue for IForce for letting me try this lemon goodness.


Review:

Taste: 9/10 - This stuff taste's really good. Anyone who likes lemon flavored products will love it! It' reminds me of UP 2.0 Lemon Cream Pie....

Mixability: 8/10 -A little powder left at the bottom but overall mixes well.

Pump: 10/10 - The pump is insane! I have used multiple products and nitrates always treated me the best. I have never experienced pumps like this before and I even use high doses of bulk creatine nitrate. If you are looking for a pump product this is the creme de la creme.

I also dosed only one bag which I believe is half a serving. I'm almost scared to do a leg workout on this stuff.

Great Job IForce!


Thanks to VaughnTrue for hookin me up ziploc style of a couple samples of lemon drop HemaVol!

I am a fan of pump products but have not found anything terribly effective. So far my favorite is Pump-Bol but even that has limits.

My chest is my weak spot... lagging far behind the rest of me and when I work it, I dont feel it. Ya'know after leg day, legs are shot, after back day, back is sore... all good things... after chest day... nothing so its like wow what gives (I do a 5 day split currently)? Even with pump bol... no pump in the chest.

So I decided to try HemaVol on chest day (yesterday)...

Start with the usual suspects:

Taste: 10/10 - yeah I said it... Ive only rated one other product a 10/10 on taste... this was a blast from the past lemonhead experience. Loved it.

Mixability: 8/10 - mixes well... no complaints but not 100% dissolved.. not a concern though.

Ok... so Incline Press....5x5
Flat Press.... 2nd set in I FEEL THE PUMP!!!! no kidding. never "felt" my chest before like this... Loved it.

Pump-Bol - OUT HEMAVOL - IN!

Thanks again VT...


yesterday's leg day was awesome! Back down to 173 this morning before breakfast. Cut is still coming along nicely, setting PR's and losing weight isn't something i'm used to! today i'll be hitting a prowler session and tire hits for an hour or so long cardio session after work. Hopefully i'll recover from the flu in time to eat before band practice. I just realized that i missed my dexaprine dose this morning so i'll be taking it pre-workout. I actually really really really like taking it just before really intense cardio sessions.

Lemondrop Hemavol Review:

Let me start by stating that this stuff really worked. I noticed after squats that my quads were really pumped even off of my heavy/low rep sets which isn't usual for me. My Bicep workout was insane. Since i DC train all of my workouts are followed up with facia stretches and they were intense with such insane pumps. on my bi stretches i started to feel dizzy they were so painful! (thats a good thing! facia stretching means growth!)

Taste: 10/10
I Mixed the powder with about 23 or 24oz. of water. It tasted exactly like the name implies, like a lemon drop shot. Definitely a good taste, a little hint of something similar to crystal light lemonade, probably because of the sweetener. I could see the taste being a little overbearing if it weren't mixed with enough water but i enjoyed it a lot in about 24 oz.

Ingredients: 9/10.
Same ingredients as the pill form currently available, solid combo that really works! I would definitely prefer the powdered form to the pills, i don't much like having a stomach full of pills going into a workout. Also a good value for the ingredients that you get!

Pump: 10/10
great pumps. I gotta say, this is insane! all i can say is you gotta try this stuff! in the more convenient powder form it's perfect!


I used a couple of bottles of the blue pills once before and liked them alot. I was expecting the same effect from that since the ingredients are the same.

Taste: 9/10 Seeing the initial taste reviews I was expecting this to taste bad or really strong. Mixing it in 20oz was great. Was very enjoyable to taste as it was just like the lemonhead candies. Also mixed very well too, do not remember having anything sinking to the bottom.

Performance: 8/10 I took this bare, no stimulates. Shoulders and triceps were killing me afterwards. A few comments from the woman on the pump afterwards. So apparently it was noticeable. I just remember when I first took hemavol how effective that was, but then again that was two bottles. I believe this to be a product of the more you use it the better it gets.

Really good work out. I could see this being a great non-stim preworkout. Also, I am very glad that I-force picked this flavor. I am looking forward to trying it in the future.

Thanks for letting me try this out.


Thanks to Vaughn I got a full 2 scoop serving of Hemavol powder as well as Maximize V2. It wasn't the first time using most of the ingredients so I thought I knew what to expect...

Went ahead and dosed the full sample bag of Hemavol ~ equivalent to 10 caps of the Hemavol pills. Was going to stack 2 scoops of Maximize V2, but decided against using Maximize V2 with it so I could really gauge the effects of strictly Hemavol.

Straight to the point... I went ahead and had a level ten ridiculous pump and workout... DESTROYED the weights. I was on a roll and set PRs left and right, weights felt light and effortless. Everything was on point and I couldn't really ask for more of a pump. It's was one of those workouts where the pump really drives you to push harder.

I'd definitely have to rank this above nitrates and 1g Agmatine for the pump and on a push day, my shoulders definitely show if a product induces a pump or not. I've never looked so full and hard at the same time which is impressive cause I was working in the 3-5 rep range mainly. The pump came on effortlessly as well, nothing more than a warmup and a set of chest and the pump was clearly evident. Decided to throw some isolation work in the 12+ rep range... I can definitely say I've never had better results from a pump product.

I used Focus XT as my preworkout, so Hemavol was responsible for the pump.

Lemondrop Hemavol:

Taste: 8.5/10
As it implies, it tastes like a lemon and the flavoring is strong but not overpowering. I dosed the bag with 24 ounces of water and the flavor was smooth and not tart. The volume of water was high, but some ingredients, GMS especially, requires a good bit of water to show its effects so its good the recommended amount of water was high and the flavoring could hold. Wasn't much GMS left undissolved either, so that was good. I would definitely enjoy this preworkout.

Ingredients: 9.5/10.
Includes almost all of the ingredients in the pump category with a mostly non-prop blend at legit dosages. Only thing left out is a bit of nitrates, however, I can't say I missed the nitrates with the pump I got.

Pump: 10/10
I rarely give something a perfect score, but this was my best pump I've ever had. I'm at a point BF that I can really tell if something is working, and this stack was legit. While I did combine it with Maximize V2, looking at both profiles it's clear which one produced the large majority of the pump.

Bottom line: Would I buy with my own money? Hell yeah! I'd keep a look out for this product especially if you're looking for the pump. In my experience, it beats 1g of Agmatine Sulfate out as well as nitrate formulas. The extras in Hemavol really polishes the formula out and provides a unique pump. I really think iForce has a winner here.

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I'll post my thoughts on a two scoop dosage of Maximize V2 later this week on a pull workout.


Used my Lemon Drop Hemavol on Sunday. I was going to mix the Hemavol with Rasp. Lemon Maximize but, I wanted to be able to give feedback on the taste of Hemavol by itself so I mixed them seperatly. So I mixed up the Lemon Drop Hemavol first. Mixability was great, nothing floating around in the shaker disolved well,10 out of 10 on that. The taste is amazing!!!! You wouldnt tell the difference between Lemon Drop Hemavol and a glass of lemonade, I give taste another 10 out of 10. As far as performance is concerned I really cant comment to much on Hemavol bc I chased it with a pack of Rasp. Lemonade MaximizeV2 which was about 1.25 servings. Now this stuff is DA BOMB!!!! Mixability on MV2 9 outta 10. Taste, again.....AMAZING, 10 outta 10. Performance, lets just say I have found my NEW Pre-W/O. The focus I had was great, I couldnt think of anything except killing the weights, 10 out of 10. Energy, I did my normal W/O in a little over half the time that it would normally be and still kept going until complete fatigue trying to find more to do, 11 out of 10. I think this is a good thing except, upon waking this morning my shoulders were on fire like I was still in my first week of weight training!!! FELT GREAT!!! Thank you iForce for the chance to try your products. I hope this review helps if some people may be undecided on whether or not to purchase iForce supps. DO IT........YOU WILL "NOT" BE DISAPPOINTED!!!!!!



This stuff mixed up perfectly, i added like 6oz of water to it just to mess with it. little too tart / sweet for my liking. added some more liek 12-16 n it was delicious. reminds me of those lemon head candys, the sweet part. not very tart with this much water but just really good! almost a lemonade.

usualy on NO products i get the bloated / sick feeling associated with them. it was ME box sq day and i didnt get any of the negatives :)

i didnt experience much of a pump effect till i started getting into to higher rep accesory lifts. keep in mind, most of my training revolves around 5's 3's and 1's. when i did start getting into the 8+ rep range, i did get quite a pump in my hams and forearms. was real nice!

from my initial impression of this, id say this is a good product. mixes great, tastes delicious, and provides the claimed effects without any side effects. if you're someone who buys pump products, id suggest this.

thanks for the sampel VT


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I should probably preface this by saying I was already a big fan of Hemavol and a big fan of lemon-flavored drinks and foods. My evaluation reflects these viewpoints. :)


Profile: (9.5/10)
  • The profile of the old Hemavol was awesome and I’m assuming the profile of ‘Lemon Drop’ is damn near the same. Suffice it to say, it’s a star in its category.
Taste: (10/10)
  • I love lemon-flavored things and this has a nice balance between tartness and sweetness. I mixed it with about 12 ounces of cold water and that was just about perfect. I don’t come across the ‘Lemon Drop’ flavor very often as the pre-workout category is littered with fruit punches, watermelons, and raspberries, so this was a really pleasant change of pace.
Mixability: (10/10)
  • Mixes essentially as good as can be expected – no clumps, no grit, just shake the bitch up!
Effects: (9.5/10)
  • Well, it gorges the target muscles with blood and pumps them all to **** (i.e. it does what it’s supposed to). Pump is GREAT – meant to take a picture to demonstrate but forgot my dang camera. But again, shoulders were just swollen to the point of just slightly hurting in the best way possible.

--- OVERALL: (9.75/10) ---

The choices of (1) switching to powder, and (2) choosing the ‘Lemon Drop’ flavoring were both wise moves. Speed up the time between ingestion and perceived effects and make it taste like a god damn treat. A top-tier nitric oxide and volumization supplement. VERY well done I-Force!

Thanks again to VaughnTrue for the samples as well!



A little birdie told me there is a sweet deal coming up next week :)
 
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The Claim:


• PLASMA VOLUMIZATION INCREASES CELLULAR EXPANSION!

• PEAK VASODILATION FOR ROADMAP VASCULARITY!

• ANABOLIC NUTRIENT SHUTTLE DRIVES NUTRIENTS DIRECTLY INTO MUSCLE CELLS!

• INCREASED EFFECTS WITH EACH DOSE!



The Profile
(Note: This is important!! You'll see later in the review)

HEMAVOL POWDER SUPPLEMENT FACTS
Serving Size: 1 Scoop (7,500mg) Servings Per Container: 32
Amount Per Serving
% Daily Value
Niacin 25mg 12.5mg 125%
Vitamin B12 (as Methylcobalamin) 1.25mg 20,883%


Hemodynamix Matrix:
Agmatine Sulfate 500mg
Citrulline Malate 2500mg
Glycerol Monostearate 1000mg
Norvaline 125mg

No22 Vasodilation Support Matrix:
Proprietary Blend 150mg

L-Alpha-Glycerylphosphorylcholine, Vitamin C (As Ascorbic Acid), Rutacaerpine, Epimedium (20%)
*Percentage Daily Value not established


First thing first I would like to thank VaughnTrue (@Iron Mulisha) and or_yourlivingtodie (@bb.com) for the Hemavol samples.

VaughnTrue sent me 2 samples of Hemavol (1 scoop each) and 2 samples of MaximizeV2
or_yourlivingtodie sent me 2 samples of Hemavol (2 scoops each)


Taste 9/10: Like "fruit punch", I am really not a big fan of lemon flavored drinks. Prior to this, the only lemon flavored drink that I particular liked well was SNS's FocusXT (Pink Lemonade). However, Hemavol powder tasted VERY GOOD!!! I used 20oz of cold water and ice for both 1 scoop and 2 scoop samples. Its more towards the "candy-version" on the lemon side than "lemonade".
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Mixability 9/10: When I received the samples in a ziploc bag, the powder was hard and clumpy. However, once it was mixed with water and after a few shakes, the powder dissolved well so no issues there. After finishing the drink, I noticed some tiny bit residue was left on the ice. Of course I ate the ice too....MUST CONSUME ALL OF THE POWDER!!!!...Didnt go as far as licking the bottle though :)



Trial Test #1:

1 scoop of Hemavol (30 minutes prior workout)
(stacked with one scoop of White Flood V2)

This was chest day at home. The only thing I "felt" prior hitting the weights was the little tinglings from White Flood. I did about 10 sets of incline presses with different reps and tempos. Then did some pushups until I had to start doing them from my knees. Chest were very pumped!!! Think I grew a few "cup sizes".



Trial Test #2

2 scoops of Hemavol (30 minutes prior arriving to gym)
1 scoop of White Flood V2 (20 minutes prior arriving)

Now this is where it gets interesting. Its going to be hard to explain and this is why the profile is important because maybe some of you can help me here. After finishing Hemavol, I noticed a slight tingling around my nose. Then it spread out from the lower part of my eyes to my chin. By this time I just now started to drink WF (so I know it cant be WF). Then it doesn't feel like tingles anymore, it becomes more like "burning". At the height of this sensation, it felt more like a minor case of sunburn. The whole thing lasted about 15 minutes. I have asked the other testers about it and apparently I'm the only one that got the "burning" feeling. (please spare me with beta alanine this and that cuz theres none in Hemavol). Today is back day. It was kind of hard to judge the "pump" for back. However, my forearms were very vascular and pumped.


Trial Test #3

2 scoops of Hemavol (30 minutes prior arriving to gym)
1 serving packet of MaximizeV2 (20 minutes prior)

Again!!! The same thing with the burning sensation. At this point, I am just baffled at what is causing it. I might be pretty sensitive to certain ingredients in Hemavol (more on that later). Today was shoulders and arms. Below is my workout video with before and after pictures.



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Trial Test #4

1 scoop of Hemavol (30 minutes prior arriving to gym)
1 packet serving of MaximizeV2 (20 minutes prior)

Today for the final test was chest/triceps. This time around I used 1 scoop of Hemavol instead of 2. However, I still get a burning sensation (again feels like a minor sunburn) that lasted about 15 minutes. But not as intensed as before. Below is a video of the workout as well as before and after pictures included.

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Final Thoughts

Pictures really doesn't do it justice. I was just amazed at how pumped I was after my workouts. IForce Nutrition really made a winner here. Currently they are having a sale to get it for $19.99 (32 servings?). So basically less than $1 per workout. 1 serving provides PLENTY of firepower. If you want to go 2 scoops, then I pray that you'll be able to put your clothes back on afterwards (not srs...well...maybe a lil' bit). Times are pretty tight here at home so I'm gonna have to pass this fantastic offer (though I know I'll be kicking myself later).

As for the "burning" feeling, that I experienced, I contacted a few testers. They did not feel what I did. So obviously I'm sensitive to one/some of the ingredients in this powdered version of Hemavol. If any of you can figure it out then please let me know *smile*
 
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Chest workout update: I hit chest Thursday night along with some cardio. Strength was around the same as the previous week which is good considering my weight. Pumps were slightly above normal perhaps, but I am expecting more. I think I made a mistake not eating much a few hrs before my workout. I didn't really get enough calories in this day which I am sure played a factor in my workout. I will aim for more next chest workout.
Was not able to go hard on cardio due to the 21k I ran on Tuesday, but I still did about 45mins worth of elliptical + treadmill running.

I am thinking of hitting legs with weights today and hitting them with a moderate weight with lots and lots of volume. Should be good for noticing pumps as well as helping my endurance goals while strengthening legs with low impact. My right knee hasn't felt the greatest since Tuesday's long ass run.

Probably finish off legs with the cross-training cardio such as elliptical.
We'll see. I will update later, maybe some kind of pics and other discussions. I recommend everyone to check out C-Bol at the bb.com store.

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I'm familiar with most of the ingredients in this except for the innovative Creatine Nitrates and Creatine HCL. Everything seems as solid as you can expect in a creatine and much more... solid price and you can possibly stretch this product out longer if desired.
Overall so far it seems my strength is good considering my weight loss, some of which is def. some muscle because of the distance running... 8K, 10K, 15 and 21km... you get the idea. Leaning up and losing fat. Pumps seem to be good although I need to test this out more yet. Everything in the bedroom def. seems to be very good which could def. be assisted by Nitrates.

Anyways, again I must say Bane knows his stuff. Everything I have looked into backs up his formulations including C-Bol.

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[TD="class: alt2"]Originally Posted by more_knowledge Great choice with the c-bol.Based on the countless logs i have seen,the actual studies i have read (solubility,acidic stability etc) and my own personal experience,creatine nitrate is easily the best form.
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[TD="class: alt2"]Originally Posted by Shockwave78 Funny this thread got bumped to the top immediately after i posted in another thread recommending it

C-Bol is the best hands down IMO... .]

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[TD="class: alt2"]Originally Posted by greekmanman I ran a bottle of C-Bol and it is hands down my favorite creatine. Trinitine is a close second IMO.

Crazy strength gains, ridiculous pumps(back pumps from deads and rackpulls were unbearable), much better endurance.

My 2c

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[TD="class: alt2"]Originally Posted by jaredmus Invalid Link Removed My legs had quite the pump and the endurance i had today was great. This was only part of my workout im not going to list all the weight and reps and sets only the highlights and whats important, not cause its lightweight and im ashamed but its just not super important. Whats important is im getting great pumps/endurance with this products, strength is slowly coming up only been using this since friday so not long enough on the c reatine to notice anything yet but getting there.
Will keep you updated thanks Thermolife

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[TD="class: alt2"]Originally Posted by jaredmus Invalid Link Removed Pump in serratus was so strong is was painful upper chest was super pumped as well, what im liking with this is endurance and pump for sure , vascualrity is good as well, and im starting to gain back and bit of strength i lost during my contest prep
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[TD="class: alt2"]Originally Posted by jaredmus Invalid Link Removed Its 4 hours later back is still very pumped just letting everyone know this product is for real, my rest time in btwn sets is decreasing because im just not as tired!
Good stuff

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[TD="class: alt2"]Originally Posted by jaredmus Invalid Link Removed Chest was good today man pumps were real good. My chest is by far and has been my weakest bodypart. Today it looked real pumped an stook out through the shirt, you guys the know the feeling when your pumped and your chest pops out.
Overall impressed with the endurance and pump this product has been providing.!!!!

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[TD="class: alt2"]Originally Posted by jaredmus Invalid Link Removed CBOL has been great for really powering through the workouts and keeping the pump going after the workout as well, the 2 main things are pumps(muscle fullness) and endurance while training.
As of now products i an 8.5/10

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[TD="class: alt2"]Originally Posted by backlash278 Invalid Link Removed Ok, so i recently picked up both Pumpbol as well as C-bol and tried them the past two days, what i can say is that the results were great.

day 1 - arms
recently I have been on a bulk, and over the past month, my vascularity has continually decreased to the point where i can barely make out the main vein in my biceps after a full workout when they're fully pumped. For tri's i did for sets of CGBP, three sets of weighted dips, three sets of skull crushers, and finished it off with three sets of reverse grip pushdowns. After i finished my tris, they were on fire. As a matter of fact, i never felt a pump like that before for my tris and i loved it. Next was bi's. After just the warmup set of barbell curls, i could already feel a pump and by my 4th set, my bi's felt like they were going to explode. After barbell curls, i did 3 sets of preacher curls and 3 sets of hammer curls and called it a day. My bis were about to explode and felt great, i did 10 pounds more on preacher than i did the previous week and at the end of my workout, when i looked in the mirror my veins that were barely visible the week before, were exploding, not just the one bicep vein either, but also the vein on the inside of my bicep and every vein on my forearm. I loved the feeling i got from this stack and i hoped that it would be like that for every muscle group.

day 2 - chest
this day was when i would know if this was for real or not. Generally, my arms respond the best to training, while my chest is my weakest body part. I'm glad to say that on every single chest workout that wasn't a cable based, my lifts were up, and i felt a tremendous pump. My bench last week was 185 x 6 and i got 185 x 8 this week and then went on to do 205 x 4 without a spotter. All i can say is i love these products.

Overall, i give this stack a 9/10 ill give it one more point if i continue to benefit from it and get the pumps from it like i did the first couple of days. But definitely try it you will not be disappointed.

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Link to C-BOL in the bb.com store:
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This is what interests me so much about this product. This is what makes it different from anything on the market right now. It's a 2 in 1 product.
Product arrived 10/10/09:

First thing that you notice is the awesome packaging. Looks very nice. In fact it's so nice you almost feel bad removing the bottle.
I had taken my creatine-mono about 5 minutes before the Fed Ex truck arrived. I opened up the bottle anyway and took a wiff of the inside. It smelled like it had a hint sulfuric rotten egg farts. My first thought was that I'm glad this product is in pill form.

First dose:
Soon after my bottle arrived, my buddy came over and we spent a few hours gun shop hopping. After we got back I felt like working out my arms, which up to this point I've never done any real direct arm work. I took 6 caps of C-BOL and waited about 45 minutes before leaving for the gym.

The pump:
I stretched my arms some and noticed I was already getting a pretty decent arm pump just from stretching. I proceeded to do some random bicep and triceps exercises.

Preacher curls:
55 3x10
Triceps pulldown:
42.5 3x10
Barbell curls:
65 3x8

I will tell you this. The pump was insane. I had a big, thick vein running down the middle of my biceps and a few veins I've never seen in my forearms. Now, I can't tell you if this is from C-BOL or from the fact that I've never really done any direct work on my arms, but they remained rock solid for about 1.5-2 hours after I left the gym. My wife was shocked when I showed her my arms.
This product looks very promising. My goals are to gain strength and endurance with C-BOL

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Arginine is not a NO increaser regardless of what the majority of support companies try to tell everyone.

The ingredients that are proven to increase NO are:

Agmagine sulfate
Citrulline(citrulline malate)
Nitrates
L-Norvaline
GPLC


The best source for the majority of those ingredients is in hemavol(now available in both pills/powder). The reviews are beyond stellar. While you may be looking for bulk powders, I highly suggest you look into hemavol...it will blow nitrix away by so much you won't believe it.

I agree with all these ingredients, Hemovol is a great product, I loved the pill form and have a feeling I will love the powder version as well when I get a chance to try it sometime.
 
I agree with all these ingredients, Hemovol is a great product, I loved the pill form and have a feeling I will love the powder version as well when I get a chance to try it sometime.

Powder version is far superior IMO, just because it hits so much harder, and much easier to accurately dose. The pills were as well, but it really took a lot of trial and error to get them to work best for each person, since everyone is so different!

Mike
 
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