AndroHard – The most powerful recomposition formula on the market

xigotmailx said:
I had a shot and a glass of wine is all, but need to know if it's gonna waste me
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Because of the piggy-backing effect of the new liquavade delivery? Thats a good question. Id use common sense and keep moderation in mind. I wouldnt make it a habit, imo it will cut your gains short in the long run.
 
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BigBlackGuy said:
I think people will notice how much faster this kicks in than most test esters, giving the 4-6 week cycle length a bit of merit. I'd still prefer to bring it out to 8 weeks, though.
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I'd go with that, things really started pulling together between weeks 5-6 and then I was done:crying:
 
HereToStudy said:
That small of an amount of alcohol is not going to do you any harm. As the others said, it is not advisable, and you shouldn't make a habit of it, but you know that.
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^^^^^much better option for a bb'er
 
Some people are different than others. If you don't drink a lot often, it is not near as detrimental as many make it out to be. Also, if you have a beer with friends or family when you are on cycle it is NOT a big deal, just keep it to one or maybe two and don't do it often. I have a few nights I drank on my last cycle and my liver values were barely off after taking two methyls for 6 weeks... the bro logic is just that, bro logic and not fact. Blood work shows that methyls taken with cycle support are not very hard on the liver at all, it is your cholesterol you need to be more concerned about. End rant/
 
Id rather be able to smoke on cycle then drink, just my preference, but I do neither.
 
sking6464 said:
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^^^^^much better option for a bb'er
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Very much agreed. :yup: I just use the vaporizer :)
oufinny said:
Some people are different than others. If you don't drink a lot often, it is not near as detrimental as many make it out to be. Also, if you have a beer with friends or family when you are on cycle it is NOT a big deal, just keep it to one or maybe two and don't do it often. I have a few nights I drank on my last cycle and my liver values were barely off after taking two methyls for 6 weeks... the bro logic is just that, bro logic and not fact. Blood work shows that methyls taken with cycle support are not very hard on the liver at all, it is your cholesterol you need to be more concerned about. End rant/
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Alcohol is not beneficial to a BBuilders diet. On cycle, with the body already going through a multitude of changes and under effect of various compounds, why not just grab a diet coke?
 
I think Andromass and weed would be a very potent combination for those struggling to add more size.
 
Whacked said:
So will his prostate and hair

LMAO :p
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hair melted off a while ago lol
prostate never had issues to date, and i take all the precautions, incl the toco8 rodja plugged (nettle root as well)

im thinking wtf, ill throw it on, and if anything crap happens, or i dont feel anything at all, ill drop it, seeing its an oral there is no long term commitment

i have ec here, hard, can get t3 (dont like clen), and im looking to get a little exotic with my current test/mast stack (var is 2months away, maybe im bored)
 
haha I feel ya on all accounts.

I am running it too.

I shaved thr dome years ago.

Good luck

sking6464 said:
hair melted off a while ago lol
prostate never had issues to date, and i take all the precautions, incl the toco8 rodja plugged (nettle root as well)

im thinking wtf, ill throw it on, and if anything crap happens, or i dont feel anything at all, ill drop it, seeing its an oral there is no long term commitment

i have ec here, hard, can get t3 (dont like clen), and im looking to get a little exotic with my current test/mast stack (var is 2months away, maybe im bored)
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I must be lucky, I get no hair loss from AH and this run no prostate issues though I am still taking nettle root (it does make peeing painless which is good!).
 
Running the old AH I actually grew thicker hair and never had any prostate problems.
 
ryansm said:
He's referring to it's ability to preserve hair
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Awww ok

oufinny said:
I must be lucky, I get no hair loss from AH and this run no prostate issues though I am still taking nettle root (it does make peeing painless which is good!).
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Good to hear - need to get some as I am running AH ;)
 
I am curious about running the new Androhard for 16 weeks.. This newe promo is something ive never really thought of. Ryan, what do you think would happen body compisition wise with a cycle like that?
 
rulk22 said:
I am curious about running the new Androhard for 16 weeks.. This newe promo is something ive never really thought of. Ryan, what do you think would happen body compisition wise with a cycle like that?
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unless someone is already reasonably lean, probably not much

diet will dictate body composition

the androhard would dry you out nicely.....but anyone over say 14-15%bf, well theyd just have no water under their fat

now, if you are below, now you are cooking, especially with a caloric deficit, by the 3rd bottle id imagine the mirror looking different

trust me, im on mast now, apparently what androhard aims to be, i know what im talking bout....im 11%, im dry as the desert, vascularity is improving daily, BUT, i still got some fat.....and what good is being dried out under neath a layer of lard


imo it comes down to this

1-goal comes first, what is it that you want
2-diet, plan one that will aid you in getting to the goal
3-supps/anabolics ect that will aid in the goal as well

the guys who have success on certain cycles, im sure follow this

the guys running stuff and walking away disappointed, more than likely bought say androhard, and expected it to get them looking hard, or andromass to get them big

example, on pp site, there was a hate thread of users upset with a lack of results, one example was a mass user, after 11days, LOST 6lbs.......guys cant lose 6lbs on a cut in that period, how the hell did he manage this on a supposed bulker....when asked bout diet/training, he gave some stupid answer like i paid this much, i deserve to be big

just my .02
 
I have to agree that diet will dictate, but the changes can be drastic imo over a 16 week period with AH. You have to have diet and training in check for any AAS cycle, a lot of guys don't and think that AAS will take care of everything and that is simply BS.
 
sking6464 said:
example, on pp site, there was a hate thread of users upset with a lack of results, one example was a mass user, after 11days, LOST 6lbs.......guys cant lose 6lbs on a cut in that period, how the hell did he manage this on a supposed bulker....when asked bout diet/training, he gave some stupid answer like i paid this much, i deserve to be big
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6lbs in 9 days, that is a glaring red flag that their diet is f'ed up.
 
ryansm said:
6lbs in 9 days, that is a glaring red flag that their diet is f'ed up.
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imo it dictates 85-90% of results.....even if you train off n on, or half ass it sometimes, a solid eating plan will make up for it.........more so than eating crap all the time but training often and hard

its vexing the amount of 'whats a good cut stack' threads, or 'good bulker'....yes there are dry and wet compounds, but none really will cut or make you big....they are just tools not magic beans.....no matter if you paid 160$ for something or not
 
sking6464 said:
unless someone is already reasonably lean, probably not much
example, on pp site, there was a hate thread of users upset with a lack of results, one example was a mass user, after 11days, LOST 6lbs.......guys cant lose 6lbs on a cut in that period, how the hell did he manage this on a supposed bulker....when asked bout diet/training, he gave some stupid answer like i paid this much, i deserve to be big

just my .02
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Haha, great point man.
 
rulk22 said:
Haha, great point man.
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thing is, its always coupled with, i have ph exp, i have years exp, what the hell

and when asked bout diet, no repsonse, and the other whiner just got all childish 'i know what im doing, i can grow natty, im american i can talk crap, andro-fail, who the hell are you' ect ect

it is what it is i guess.....some people expect too much, and others know how to make things work for them (something i know rosie preaches daily on here, choose stuff that works towards your goals)

some guys will grab whatever is new n hot, with no plan in mind, and just go off other users' results or marketing

if a guy got leaned out on hard for example, odds are hard wasnt the major factor in it, but more so a tool

ex....i wanted to try eq, but goal wise at this point, the hunger increase would be detrimental to them, so instead of going with certain 'favorites' i chose compounds that will work with my diet and my goals

i had a friend, run epi, which i love, fkn idiot was eating mcds 2xwk, thatll really help with the leaning out.....eat tight, the stuff will dry you up, so when he says it was okay, but mirror wise wasnt pleased, no sh*t
 
I'd figure I would ask in here... is androhard something that could be used between ph/ds/injectable cycles? Only reason why I ask is that schwellington is running it as a bridge and I know people used dhea regularly/during pct/on cycle. I only read the first few pages of this thread so if this question has already been answered, sorry.
 
2k1s said:
I'd figure I would ask in here... is androhard something that could be used between ph/ds/injectable cycles? Only reason why I ask is that schwellington is running it as a bridge and I know people used dhea regularly/during pct/on cycle. I only read the first few pages of this thread so if this question has already been answered, sorry.
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Possibly, it is mildly suppressive. Although if you were to do this then why not cruise on test? TRT...
 
2k1s said:
I'd figure I would ask in here... is androhard something that could be used between ph/ds/injectable cycles? Only reason why I ask is that schwellington is running it as a bridge and I know people used dhea regularly/during pct/on cycle. I only read the first few pages of this thread so if this question has already been answered, sorry.
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You should check out the 16 week Androhard anti-gyno challenge. I think you'll find it interesting even beyond the challengs main point.
 
2k1s said:
I'd figure I would ask in here... is androhard something that could be used between ph/ds/injectable cycles? Only reason why I ask is that schwellington is running it as a bridge and I know people used dhea regularly/during pct/on cycle. I only read the first few pages of this thread so if this question has already been answered, sorry.
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I can see it being used as a bridge to maintain on anabolics while limiting shutdown. Of course, I don't really know if bridging works. I've heard of people using 11-oxo as a bridge because of how mild the shutdown is, but again, I haven't seen bloodwork to prove bridging will actually do anything but continue to keep the HPTA suppressed.
 
sking6464 said:
thing is, its always coupled with, i have ph exp, i have years exp, what the hell

and when asked bout diet, no repsonse, and the other whiner just got all childish 'i know what im doing, i can grow natty, im american i can talk crap, andro-fail, who the hell are you' ect ect

it is what it is i guess.....some people expect too much, and others know how to make things work for them (something i know rosie preaches daily on here, choose stuff that works towards your goals)

some guys will grab whatever is new n hot, with no plan in mind, and just go off other users' results or marketing

if a guy got leaned out on hard for example, odds are hard wasnt the major factor in it, but more so a tool

ex....i wanted to try eq, but goal wise at this point, the hunger increase would be detrimental to them, so instead of going with certain 'favorites' i chose compounds that will work with my diet and my goals

i had a friend, run epi, which i love, fkn idiot was eating mcds 2xwk, thatll really help with the leaning out.....eat tight, the stuff will dry you up, so when he says it was okay, but mirror wise wasnt pleased, no sh*t
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Any product is a tool. Not using it right won't lead to the correct results. It is why a screwdriver can't hammer and a hammer can't screw.
 
HereToStudy said:
Any product is a tool. Not using it right won't lead to the correct results. It is why a screwdriver can't hammer and a hammer can't screw.
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Yeah I dont like to half ass eating and training when im taking a great tool such as a ph. Make the most of that opportunity because you cant run phs indefinatly.
 
rulk22 said:
Yeah I dont like to half ass eating and training when im taking a great tool such as a ph. Make the most of that opportunity because you cant run phs indefinatly.
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That type of training and eating is why you see so many people on their 4th cycle of SD and barely at 180 lbs.
 
Rodja said:
That type of training and eating is why you see so many people on their 4th cycle of SD and barely at 180 lbs.
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People also aren't consistent... they go all out on cycle and then lax while off. **** doesn't fly in the real world.
 
I have to admit, my general focus is fine, as well as eating and training, but when im "on", I try to turn everything up a several notches. I know its a rare opportunity for my body to be in a state like that and to me, taking advantage is upping the intensity. Other wise id never redline as much or id burn out real fast. After a cycle you have to be super detail orientated as well, or else you get the 2 steps forward and 2 steps back kinda scenario happening.
 
Started an Androhard/Androlean stack, I'll post up comments I have on the products as the cycle goes on.
 
BigBlackGuy said:
Started an Androhard/Androlean stack, I'll post up comments I have on the products as the cycle goes on.
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Oh cool, I havent seen you run anything in awhile. Looking forward to see what you can do with this.
 
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