what exactly is Andromass?!?!

hove131

hove131

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I'm confused on to what this product is. How can it be so potent but yet not be an oral steroid. Is it an altered DHEA? It looks to me like a crazy test booster but then you have the arguments over the product of running PCT or not since some say its a hormone and others not. WHAT IS THIS STUFF? I've been reading on it but it's still clear as mud. Break it down for me nice and easy since my brain is fried from finals this week ;)
 
Effectively, it is a steroid and will require a PCT. It will shut you down. It is an altered DHEA molecule with an enhanced delivery system that makes it more bio-available.
 
Its a prohormone with enhancers for bioavailability and enzymes, but with any true prohormone results vary based on your own enzyme levels.

Regardless of what it is though, the bigger question is whether its worth what they charge, cause thats a pretty astronomical price.
 
zachmanman said:
its nothing anyone needs to take

won't do anything more than DHEA does
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Have you used it...no


It is an oral hormone (two actually) and the first round ships soon so look out for logs. The other two in the series have been out and are receiving great reviews.
 
hove131 said:
I'm confused on to what this product is. How can it be so potent but yet not be an oral steroid. Is it an altered DHEA? It looks to me like a crazy test booster but then you have the arguments over the product of running PCT or not since some say its a hormone and others not. WHAT IS THIS STUFF? I've been reading on it but it's still clear as mud. Break it down for me nice and easy since my brain is fried from finals this week ;)
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Hit up any of the Primordial Performance reps for a logging opportunity to catch a nice price break, if you figure this is something you'd like to try. Btw you'll recognize my avi on other sites under the name GoodGrip. If you still have any questions, feel free to ask bro.
 
crazym said:
The duke nukem forever of supplements, sorry couldn't resist the dig.
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Two of the three have been released :(

And besides, Duke Nukem 3D was one of the best games out there, and Forever is coming soon :rasp:
 
EasyEJL said:
Its a prohormone with enhancers for bioavailability and enzymes, but with any true prohormone results vary based on your own enzyme levels.

Regardless of what it is though, the bigger question is whether its worth what they charge, cause thats a pretty astronomical price.
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I'd like to see PP release the bioavilability blend portion of the andro series in a separate product. I'm not really interested in DHEA esters....but would love to add the other portion of the product to my own oral cycles to get better results on lower dosages
 
TheDarkHalf said:
I'd like to see PP release the bioavilability blend portion of the andro series in a separate product. I'm not really interested in DHEA esters....but would love to add the other portion of the product to my own oral cycles to get better results on lower dosages
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Oh we will be doing many things...many, many things...
 
hove131 said:
I'm confused on to what this product is. How can it be so potent but yet not be an oral steroid. Is it an altered DHEA? It looks to me like a crazy test booster but then you have the arguments over the product of running PCT or not since some say its a hormone and others not. WHAT IS THIS STUFF? I've been reading on it but it's still clear as mud. Break it down for me nice and easy since my brain is fried from finals this week ;)
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It's a stack of two prohormones. It's altered DHEA. It's an oral steroid.
 
ive been debating whether or not to try a PH cycle for a couple of years now.... one of the biggest things holding me back is my fear of doing damage to my body (specifically my liver). is the claim that this product 'bypasses' the liver (which i assume means its not liver-toxic) true?

would this type of PH be considered 'too strong' for someone who's never done a cycle before?

what about PCT? their website seems to advise AGAINST serm's, but on most of the boards ive frequented, serm's seem to be what everyone says to take. if not, what would be a suitable PCT?

another factor in me not taking a PH is the price (not just of the PH itself, but everything you need to take with it). what all would you need with this stuff? just the andromass and a pct, or would you need an on-cycle support, etc?

thanks
 
my AM will be arriving in the next few days.. It's my first cycle.. I picked it because it isn't methylated.. no real supports are necessary because of that.. You really only need the TRS stack unless you're going to run it longer than 4 weeks then you need a SERM. It's comparable to injectable Test just without the inject. Read the articles on their site they go pretty in depth on the science aspect of it.
 
bill86 said:
ive been debating whether or not to try a PH cycle for a couple of years now.... one of the biggest things holding me back is my fear of doing damage to my body (specifically my liver). is the claim that this product 'bypasses' the liver (which i assume means its not liver-toxic) true?

would this type of PH be considered 'too strong' for someone who's never done a cycle before?

what about PCT? their website seems to advise AGAINST serm's, but on most of the boards ive frequented, serm's seem to be what everyone says to take. if not, what would be a suitable PCT?

another factor in me not taking a PH is the price (not just of the PH itself, but everything you need to take with it). what all would you need with this stuff? just the andromass and a pct, or would you need an on-cycle support, etc?

thanks
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Very low sides, will be one of the safest of all the current legal hormones available. No need for any support supps, and we recommend our TRS for PCT. This will be a great option for a first timer. Shoot me a PM and we can work out a deal if you are interested.
 
oh ok, yeah, i figured finding one that wasnt methylated would be my best bet to avoid the sides im scared of.

no offense, its just that in the world of supplements EVERYONE says 'our product is the best and heres the "science" of why' on their websites, etc, which is why i made the post even after visiting the site. also, a lot of times (cough, complete nutrition, cough) the pct's/test boosters are kind of underdosed, and i cant imagine how discouraging it is to finally feel big/strong only to lose it all.

its definitely something id consider in the coming months, i cant wait to see what people say about it.
 
mball52 said:
im just as confused as you. especially with their "natural steroid revolution" advertisement.
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same here, it looks interesting, but I cant get my hands on clomid or anything, so im not sure if its worth the risk of running without a "legit" pct
 
so you guys think their pct that they recommend over a serm isnt legit for something like AM?
 
bill86 said:
so you guys think their pct that they recommend over a serm isnt legit for something like AM?
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it depends how long you run it. 4 weeks or less no the TRS will be fine, but much over a SERM would be better to combine with it. It just ensures your speedy recovery. Or you could get phenyl(hcg) and run it for the length of the cycle if you wanted then TRS would be fine.
 
oh ok, yeah, being that it would be my first cycle, i figured id probably shoot for 4 weeks. so are you saying id only need the hcg if i were planning on running the AM for over 4 weeks?

thanks for the help
 
bill86 said:
oh ok, yeah, being that it would be my first cycle, i figured id probably shoot for 4 weeks. so are you saying id only need the hcg if i were planning on running the AM for over 4 weeks?

thanks for the help
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You wouldn't need hCG for a 4 week ycle.
 
like i said, i too dont really understand what andromass is exactly, which is why im so confused as to how to run it/with what.... does it require something like cycle assist, or would i just run it straight up for about 4 weeks then run TRS (would i overlap the TRS with the end of the AM cycle, or just start it immediately following?)

again, sorry for all the questions... a while back i came up with a decent beginners cycle for helladrol, but ended up backing out.... but this andromass stuff has me interested, just not sure if im supposed to treat it like a normal cycle of something like halodrol or epistane
 
bill86 said:
like i said, i too dont really understand what andromass is exactly, which is why im so confused as to how to run it/with what.... does it require something like cycle assist, or would i just run it straight up for about 4 weeks then run TRS (would i overlap the TRS with the end of the AM cycle, or just start it immediately following?)

again, sorry for all the questions... a while back i came up with a decent beginners cycle for helladrol, but ended up backing out.... but this andromass stuff has me interested, just not sure if im supposed to treat it like a normal cycle of something like halodrol or epistane
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Basic cycle rules except liver support is not necessary. AM is a PH to 1-testosterone and testosterone.
 
bill86 said:
like i said, i too dont really understand what andromass is exactly, which is why im so confused as to how to run it/with what.... does it require something like cycle assist, or would i just run it straight up for about 4 weeks then run TRS (would i overlap the TRS with the end of the AM cycle, or just start it immediately following?)

again, sorry for all the questions... a while back i came up with a decent beginners cycle for helladrol, but ended up backing out.... but this andromass stuff has me interested, just not sure if im supposed to treat it like a normal cycle of something like halodrol or epistane
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No need for any cycle support supps, it is very low in sides. It is a combination of two hormones and the TRS should be started after cessation of your cycle with AndroMass:

weeks 1-4 AndroMass
weeks 5-8 TRS
 
wow, thanks for all the help guys.... but when rodja says 'basic cycle rules', would that not include something like cycle assist?
 
bill86 said:
wow, thanks for all the help guys.... but when rodja says 'basic cycle rules', would that not include something like cycle assist?
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I err on the side of caution. There will be some effect on lipids, but it will be mild overall.
 
Rodja said:
I err on the side of caution. There will be some effect on lipids, but it will be mild overall.
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same here, i didnt expect it to be too bad, but id rather be safe than sorry.... would you say my idea of cycle assist would work?.... im assuming i wouldnt need to do any pre-loading if this cycle is supposed to be mild??
 
I am interested in trying this product down the road. My question to the reps is, what will the effects be on someone who has already done several PH/DS cycles over the years already, ie, Superdrol, Phera, Epi, etc. I can see how this would be a great product for someone starting out, but like I said, what about an experienced user. Will they still gain some size etc, or would you think maybe not as much becuase their recepters are used/shot..Thank you for your time..

SJ
 
SuppJunkie said:
I am interested in trying this product down the road. My question to the reps is, what will the effects be on someone who has already done several PH/DS cycles over the years already, ie, Superdrol, Phera, Epi, etc. I can see how this would be a great product for someone starting out, but like I said, what about an experienced user. Will they still gain some size etc, or would you think maybe not as much becuase their recepters are used/shot..Thank you for your time..

SJ
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We still expect gains, these are not methylated orals, however AndroMass and especially an AndroMass/AndroHard stack would certainly produce. Besides there are so many options with these for any level of user.
 
ryansm said:
We still expect gains, these are not methylated orals, however AndroMass and especially an AndroMass/AndroHard stack would certainly produce. Besides there are so many options with these for any level of user.
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with this stack, still no support supps is needed?

thanks!
 
1kerry said:
with this stack, still no support supps is needed?

thanks!
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Bloodwork will tell you wonders, btw, but no liver support, should be little chance of blood pressure problems, and minimal effects on lipids.

But all steroids will have some effect on lipids/BP.
 
Ok so from reading this. You can run a/mass and just UAE your pct. Favor your oral or cream pct over the other I'm curious?
Also if u do run a stack of let's say mass ad hard then u would want a SERM correct? But each by them selfs no SERM is needed right?
 
ryansm said:
No need for any cycle support supps, it is very low in sides. It is a combination of two hormones and the TRS should be started after cessation of your cycle with AndroMass:

weeks 1-4 AndroMass
weeks 5-8 TRS
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Good glad this waw clarified... Im going to order and run this way.
 
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