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"But i want to get big AND ripped!" How to run a RECOMP cycle

He should be good with the hella and 11 oxo at the dose hes planning.

Im totaly with you on cardio days, only one i take off is legs :saevilw:
 
Yep, cardio is the key. Nobody likes to do it, but it just comes down to how bad you want it. I do cardio 9x a week actually. Once on all my workout days, and then twice on my two non weight training days. The extra session on my non weights days basically allows me still have burned the same amount of cals for the day, and thus I do not need to adjust my cals to compensate for the hour and a half I didn't spend lifting weights on those off days.
 
Great thanks guys! I will step up the cardio for sure to 5/6 days per week but separate from my lifts (morning cardio, afternoon/early evening lift)

Cycle looks like - supports are good
Hdrol:50/75/75/75/75/75
11oxo:0/0/0/0/0/0/1000/1000/1000
PCT: nolva 20/20/10/10 and Endo-amp max.

Would it be better if I split the 11-oxo up and ran it with the hdrol during the 6 weeks, or do a bridge as I planned to extend total length to 9 weeks? I'm open to including fura with the hdrol but this is my first cycle so dont want to go crazy
 
stack it. Not may people realize that you need to dose the piss out of 11 oxo to get results, glad you do


add more to your PCT. Unleashed/Post cycle, HCGenerate, Phytoserms, etc. something good. it will be much easier holding your gains and fatloss.
 
gymrat827 said:
stack it. Not may people realize that you need to dose the piss out of 11 oxo to get results, glad you do


add more to your PCT. Unleashed/Post cycle, HCGenerate, Phytoserms, etc. something good. it will be much easier holding your gains and fatloss.
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what about this? I could add in katandrol/furuza-bol at 250mgs for 4 weeks ending at the same time as hdrol then still enter the 11-oxo bridge at a gram per day. Just an idea, I could also get some more bulk 11-oxo and run that throughout.

Hdrol:50/75/75/75/75/75
Kata/fura:0/0/250/250/250/250
11oxo:0/0/0/0/0/0/1000/1000/1000
PCT: nolva 20/20/10/10 and Endo-amp max, hcgenerate
 
EArch said:
what about this? I could add in katandrol/furuza-bol at 250mgs for 4 weeks ending at the same time as hdrol then still enter the 11-oxo bridge at a gram per day. Just an idea, I could also get some more bulk 11-oxo and run that throughout.

Hdrol:50/75/75/75/75/75
Kata/fura:0/0/250/250/250/250
11oxo:0/0/0/0/0/0/1000/1000/1000
PCT: nolva 20/20/10/10 and Endo-amp max, hcgenerate
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That looks awesome! run that and you'll cut up fo sho!
 
MakaveliThaDon said:
Yep, cardio is the key. Nobody likes to do it, but it just comes down to how bad you want it. I do cardio 9x a week actually. Once on all my workout days, and then twice on my two non weight training days. The extra session on my non weights days basically allows me still have burned the same amount of cals for the day, and thus I do not need to adjust my cals to compensate for the hour and a half I didn't spend lifting weights on those off days.
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Actually, diet is the key. Second up after that is cardio ;)
 
re reading this great thread by unreal. I was hoping he would give a suggested dosage on T3 for running a recomp while ON, like a dosage to not go above if you still intend on being able to put on size. But he didn't :(
 
MakaveliThaDon said:
re reading this great thread by unreal. I was hoping he would give a suggested dosage on T3 for running a recomp while ON, like a dosage to not go above if you still intend on being able to put on size. But he didn't :(
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That would be because he has been taking a leave of absence from the boards I am told.
 
MakaveliThaDon said:
oh my bad, I completely missed the bottom part where he laid out the dosages for eca/clen and t3.

Was basically targeting 75mcg in my head even before I read that though, lol.
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Ya, you really gotta judge it for yourself. I find 50mcg is good for me. At 75mcg I was losing some strength and achieving no pump in the gym. Everyone's different. But most definitely don't go over 75mcg on a recomp. So just follow like Unreal said and taper up to 75mcg and if it's too much drop back down to 50mcg buddy. :bigok:
 
BarbellBeast said:
Ya, you really gotta judge it for yourself. I find 50mcg is good for me. At 75mcg I was losing some strength and achieving no pump in the gym. Everyone's different. But most definitely don't go over 75mcg on a recomp. So just follow like Unreal said and taper up to 75mcg and if it's too much drop back down to 50mcg buddy. :bigok:
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will do man. Thanks for the solid advice bro
 
good post
 
I really want to run a recomp. This is my first cycle of any sort. In the past all I have run are natty boosters and stuff. I really haven't been happy with the body composition for a long time now.My plan was going to be to run:Helladrol up to 100mg for 6-8 weeksAndrohard(LV) last 4 weeks or the whole cycle.My training is AM weights (anywhere from 530-730 start times)Lunch or PM cardio sessions. I train 6 days a week and do Cardio sessions at minimum 3 days a week, but just switched to an everyday program. So basically 12 workouts a week. I'm 182-186BF% according to electronic calc is 13-14%I need to make a huge turn around. IMOAfter reading your article though 3 things made me question which PH's to run.1. You said nonmethyls are better for 8 week cycles2. You said taking a bulking PH is better for recomp because it should promise more mass gains with all the cardio your doing. (So would running Pmag be a better choice than HDrol?)3. You talked about adding Clen to really rip that fat off, how important will this be if I'm running any of the other combos listed? Is this a Must have for Recomp basically?As a first timer doing a recomp should I still be considering running Trenazone and Helladrol stacked?My goal is to attempt to stay in the 180's but drop to 8% BF. I have the dedication and the bility to train. However, after reading your article which is pretty str8 forward and your someone who I admire around her, it made me think.Can you help me out on this? Ive already started my preload, and If I need to grab some trenazone, i''ll need it fast.-this article was a Godsend...
 
Awesome guide bro, have already added to favorites.
 
Hustlers said:
I really want to run a recomp. This is my first cycle of any sort. In the past all I have run are natty boosters and stuff. I really haven't been happy with the body composition for a long time now.My plan was going to be to run:Helladrol up to 100mg for 6-8 weeksAndrohard(LV) last 4 weeks or the whole cycle.My training is AM weights (anywhere from 530-730 start times)Lunch or PM cardio sessions. I train 6 days a week and do Cardio sessions at minimum 3 days a week, but just switched to an everyday program. So basically 12 workouts a week. I'm 182-186BF% according to electronic calc is 13-14%I need to make a huge turn around. IMOAfter reading your article though 3 things made me question which PH's to run.1. You said nonmethyls are better for 8 week cycles2. You said taking a bulking PH is better for recomp because it should promise more mass gains with all the cardio your doing. (So would running Pmag be a better choice than HDrol?)3. You talked about adding Clen to really rip that fat off, how important will this be if I'm running any of the other combos listed? Is this a Must have for Recomp basically?As a first timer doing a recomp should I still be considering running Trenazone and Helladrol stacked?My goal is to attempt to stay in the 180's but drop to 8% BF. I have the dedication and the bility to train. However, after reading your article which is pretty str8 forward and your someone who I admire around her, it made me think.Can you help me out on this? Ive already started my preload, and If I need to grab some trenazone, i''ll need it fast.-this article was a Godsend...
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Any takers have an opinion on this?
 
Ran my first cycle as a recomp of hdrol and furuz with 11 -oxo bridge, was a success but I would drop the 11-oxo bridge in hindsight and just have ran it on cycle.

This thread was a big help in those days.
 
Great read, thanks machine.
 
alpinecoach said:
Unreal, nice article. Clear your inbox.
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Unreal is not on the boards any longer. He has taken a leave of absence for quite sometime now.
 
Another bump & sub for a good read.
 
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