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another Tamoxifen thread (bet u havent heard this one)

steppinRazor

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So if anyone has experience or knowledge about Tamoxifen citrate it would be greatly appreciated..

I'm subject to random ETG testing (alcohol enzymes found in urine)
I've tried finding info about what's in tamox citrate but alls I can come up with is a molecule..I'm stumped here

Another question, is this stuff injectable only? Do people orally ingest this stuff??

Hope I can find some answers here, you guys haven't let me down yet!
 
wait are you asking if tamox is injected?
 
Legend says that if injected, a PCT can last a day with full recovery guaranteed.
 
lmfao..ok feel a little stupid but hey that's cool lol
When doing research I read something about a syringe, I suppose that's just to measure dose..its all starting to come together now..hahah wow.

Ok but no, this was not my main question.. I need to know if it contains ANY type of alcohol, as I am subject to random ETG tests..
 
steppinRazor said:
lmfao..ok feel a little stupid but hey that's cool lol
When doing research I read something about a syringe, I suppose that's just to measure dose..its all starting to come together now..hahah wow.

Ok but no, this was not my main question.. I need to know if it contains ANY type of alcohol, as I am subject to random ETG tests..
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The syringe you read about is for those who take the liquid "research chem" version which is taken orally.

I don't know the liquid version contains any alcohol, but it smells like it so maybe? I would personally never touch that stuff though. Pharma grade tabs only for me!
 
kanakafarian said:
The syringe you read about is for those who take the liquid "research chem" version which is taken orally.

I don't know the liquid version contains any alcohol, but it smells like it so maybe? I would personally never touch that stuff though. Pharma grade tabs only for me!
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Yeah that's the stuff I'm talking about..id stay away from it too if it weren't for cost and availablility..
Thanks for your input...smells like alcohol you think? Or straight chemicals?
I wish those shady companies would list what exactly goes in them
 
steppinRazor said:
Yeah that's the stuff I'm talking about..id stay away from it too if it weren't for cost and availablility..
Thanks for your input...smells like alcohol you think? Or straight chemicals?
I wish those shady companies would list what exactly goes in them
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If you're going the research route, you could always just send them an email. The more reputable ones will give you a straight answer. Just tell them you were curious as to whether or not their nolva uses any alcohol as a solvent. Do not say anything about your situation however, as those chems are sold as not for human consumption, and if you suggest that they will ignore you.

Also, even if it does, wouldn't the amount be so trace that it wouldn't matter? Imho it would produce a similar BAC as using listerine in the morning (which is mostly alcohol), and therefore a similar amount of metabolites.
 
DYEGYE said:
If you're going the research route, you could always just send them an email. The more reputable ones will give you a straight answer. Just tell them you were curious as to whether or not their nolva uses any alcohol as a solvent. Do not say anything about your situation however, as those chems are sold as not for human consumption, and if you suggest that they will ignore you.

Also, even if it does, wouldn't the amount be so trace that it wouldn't matter? Imho it would produce a similar BAC as using listerine in the morning (which is mostly alcohol), and therefore a similar amount of metabolites.
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Thanks for the suggestion. Very sound advice.

As for the ETG, its a totally different concept than blood alcohol content, it detects enzymes left behind by alcohol. a single o'doulles will pop positive, I use alcohol free mouth wash the whole 9. They collect urine from me twice a week and any of those cups can be sent off to the lab for etg depending on their mood, suspicion or for god knows what else.

So why take steroids on such a high level of supervision with multiple felonies hanging over my head?
Well technically its no one ever said I couldn't. And I bought them legally so if it ever comes up I'm gonna play dumb. Id just rather avoid explaining why an etg popped hot.
Little background forya
Thanks ima shoot those guys an email
 
steppinRazor said:
Thanks for the suggestion. Very sound advice.

As for the ETG, its a totally different concept than blood alcohol content, it detects enzymes left behind by alcohol. a single o'doulles will pop positive, I use alcohol free mouth wash the whole 9. They collect urine from me twice a week and any of those cups can be sent off to the lab for etg depending on their mood, suspicion or for god knows what else.

So why take steroids on such a high level of supervision with multiple felonies hanging over my head?
Well technically its no one ever said I couldn't. And I bought them legally so if it ever comes up I'm gonna play dumb. Id just rather avoid explaining why an etg popped hot.
Little background forya
Thanks ima shoot those guys an email
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Yes, ETG is very sensitive to any ethanol form of alcohol. I had a buddy who had these randomly and they will show everything. He couldn't even use hand sanitizer because there was alcohol in it. No mouthwash, poppy seed product, and even balsamic vinigerette!
 
Well some of the oral "Research chem" Tamoxifen concoctions may be dissolved using Everclear or Bicardi151 which are both high grain alcohols. But since you will be taking a mL per dose at most, I don't see how it would cause an issue but then again I don't know how sophisticated your testing is either.

I've always been intrigued by the aspect of injectable SERM's and still surprised you don't see/hear/read much about it. Would love to try Raloxifene in inject form if it is possible to keep stable in inject form. Has to be a way I am sure.
 
^^^This...I looked into purchasing clomid and nolva powder to make my own serms. What I found out is that most generally liquid serms use an alcohol as a solvent. However, I cant comment on pharma-grade tabs sorry.
 
tablets of course do not contain alcohol, the liquid research chems can depending on who you order from
 
If an ETG is that sensitive, isn't is worthless in that you can just say "the bathroom was out of soap and I used hand sanitizer", or "I had penne with vodka sauce"...I mean, they can't tell you to not use hand sanitizer.

"I shook someones hand after they used hand sanitizer.."

Anyway, to answer the question...get tabs, no booze in them.
 
Skigazzi said:
If an ETG is that sensitive, isn't is worthless in that you can just say "the bathroom was out of soap and I used hand sanitizer", or "I had penne with vodka sauce"...I mean, they can't tell you to not use hand sanitizer.

"I shook someones hand after they used hand sanitizer.."

Anyway, to answer the question...get tabs, no booze in them.
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No, because EtG's are usually used for legal reasons. So if someone is in an alcohol program or something similar, they'll brief you on what you can and can't eat/use. If you pee hot, you could get into big trouble because there are no excuses. And yes, bourbon chicken, wine sauced foods, aftershave, Listerine, etc., will all show. The test detects the presence of ethyl glucuronide for up to 5 days.
 
theres nothing wrong with using liquid nolva..yeah it taste like **** but it works as long as you get if from a legit research chem supplier..works just as good as pills.. to get pills the suppliers are over seas and your package has to go through customs..it takes a while usually to get it and sometimes packages get seized..too much of a hassle imo..and a bit pricey..thats why i use research chem nolva..clen..ect. and yes it is alcohol based.
 
no reason said:
theres nothing wrong with using liquid nolva..yeah it taste like **** but it works as long as you get if from a legit research chem supplier..works just as good as pills.. to get pills the suppliers are over seas and your package has to go through customs..it takes a while usually to get it and sometimes packages get seized..too much of a hassle imo..and a bit pricey..thats why i use research chem nolva..clen..ect. and yes it is alcohol based.
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The OP can't consume or come into contact with any form of alcohol. :redeemerwhore:
 
Another reason Torem is sooooo superior to Nolvadex ... don't have to inject Torem! LOL

(hmmm ... that was a half-assed joke)

Anyways ... I use the liquid research chem ... only thing is they are usually thick as hell and some goes to waste cuz it doesn't come off the syringe unless you lick it - yum!

But yeah - order the research chem on Friday - get it on Monday - overseas is hit and miss on the tabs - though I've ordered them before.
 
HondaV65 said:
Another reason Torem is sooooo superior to Nolvadex ... don't have to inject Torem! LOL

(hmmm ... that was a half-assed joke)

Anyways ... I use the liquid research chem ... only thing is they are usually thick as hell and some goes to waste cuz it doesn't come off the syringe unless you lick it - yum!

But yeah - order the research chem on Friday - get it on Monday - overseas is hit and miss on the tabs - though I've ordered them before.
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Or just pick them up domestically if you have a source :cool2:
 
thanks guys, yeah looks like i maybe screwd.. i sent an email to a few of the research chem companies who advertise here and there is indeed alcohol in them...
and i have not a clue about tabs...some aledged sources sound a bit shady. ie weird pharma companies in india

also heres where im startin to get mixed signals, i was reading thru the "superdrol 4 dummies" thread and saw an interesting post about how SERMs benefits are outweighed by the long term sides.
 
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