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AndroHard – The most powerful recomposition formula on the market

BigBlackGuy said:
Sometimes I just don't even know what you're saying, lol
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you never see those ads....take this pill and lose 25lbs in 10days, and eat what you want.....then they show the image of the human body, usually blue, n the stomach is red, n starts fkn shrinking

call now and get a 2nd bottle for free, 19.99 + sh.......and they have all the ridiculous before and afters of 150lbs losses

lol
 
sking6464 said:
ill bump that too.....good stuff it seems, but magic pills no

maybe on the HSN theres some **** theyll get out to him on one of those flex payment plans....eat **** and be ripped, with the fkn thermo image of the colon all red n hot, burning away the stomach
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You cannot be more correct, I had to work for every pound of LBM gained and fat dropped. Most of it comes from the kitchen and a solid workout plan, some from genetics and the rest from supplements. They can do amazing things for people if used properly but all to often people want results that are unrealistic. I love AndroHard when I ran it but my diet was not that great and I had way too much stress in my life so I made little recomp changes, just had strength gains. I got rid of the source of the stress, focus on my diet more now and have been tearing it up lately.
 
oufinny said:
You cannot be more correct, I had to work for every pound of LBM gained and fat dropped. Most of it comes from the kitchen and a solid workout plan, some from genetics and the rest from supplements. They can do amazing things for people if used properly but all to often people want results that are unrealistic. I love AndroHard when I ran it but my diet was not that great and I had way too much stress in my life so I made little recomp changes, just had strength gains. I got rid of the source of the stress, focus on my diet more now and have been tearing it up lately.
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Very important factor^^^
 
i like toco8 for its arterial plaque effects....nettle root for my prostate
 
eeeek...........thats the worst.....like a fat girl with small tits
 
I created a thread for this, but no one has answered yet, so I'll just ask it here.

In the AH write-up it says that it will increase your DHT by roughly 22X, which is a big concern for those who are prone to MPB.

I had several questions...

1) Would pregnenolone help if it was taken simultaneously?

2) How much a help would DHT blocking/cleansing shampoos like Nioxin etc be.

3) Would pre-loading a week or two (or longer) with toco-8 do anything prior to starting AH?



sking6464 said:
eeeek...........thats the worst.....like a fat girl with small tits
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LOL, the one area where fat is good...and they lack it.
 
KashMoni said:
I created a thread for this, but no one has answered yet, so I'll just ask it here.

In the AH write-up it says that it will increase your DHT by roughly 22X, which is a big concern for those who are prone to MPB.

I had several questions...

1) Would pregnenolone help if it was taken simultaneously?

2) How much a help would DHT blocking/cleansing shampoos like Nioxin etc be.

3) Would pre-loading a week or two (or longer) with toco-8 do anything prior to starting AH?





LOL, the one area where fat is good...and they lack it.
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if you are prone to mpb, i doubt those will help that much, itll happen either way, its a bitch with dht
 
sking6464 said:
if you are prone to mpb, i doubt those will help that much, itll happen either way, its a bitch with dht
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True, I am prone to mpb, however I've had the double edge sword....

I still have my hair and haven't had to use anything, where as my brother had to start using rogaine around the age of 21...

The reason mine hasn't happened yet, is because of my Testosterone levels...they are naturally low for someone who doesn't drink or been on any cycle etc. I did get bloodwork done recently, and that just confirmed my suspicions. Sure that's good for my hair, but not so much for bodybuilding purposes.

But I do suspect my brother to have high testosterone levels...i think he stole my share..



BTW, Ryan, I also assumed preg would help but I'm not sure how much it will take away from AH's effectiveness, which is where I'm really interested in.

PS, thanks Rodja for trying to get Eric in here.
 
Thank god for Toco 8. Although im getting tired of my hair, I believe Toco 8 saved me from shedding last year.
 
KashMoni said:
True, I am prone to mpb, however I've had the double edge sword....

I still have my hair and haven't had to use anything, where as my brother had to start using rogaine around the age of 21...

The reason mine hasn't happened yet, is because of my Testosterone levels...they are naturally low for someone who doesn't drink or been on any cycle etc. I did get bloodwork done recently, and that just confirmed my suspicions. Sure that's good for my hair, but not so much for bodybuilding purposes.

But I do suspect my brother to have high testosterone levels...i think he stole my share..



BTW, Ryan, I also assumed preg would help but I'm not sure how much it will take away from AH's effectiveness, which is where I'm really interested in.

PS, thanks Rodja for trying to get Eric in here.
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Using one hormone to combat another is a delicate procedure. I'd err on the side of caution doing that... pregnenolone can convert to multiple different hormones (progesterone, estradiol, etc.). It's 4 steps from estrogens (or 5 for estradiol), one step from progesterone... I'm pretty sure it helps with hair loss by combating DHT.
 
KashMoni said:
I created a thread for this, but no one has answered yet, so I'll just ask it here.

In the AH write-up it says that it will increase your DHT by roughly 22X, which is a big concern for those who are prone to MPB.

I had several questions...

1) Would pregnenolone help if it was taken simultaneously?

2) How much a help would DHT blocking/cleansing shampoos like Nioxin etc be.

3) Would pre-loading a week or two (or longer) with toco-8 do anything prior to starting AH?


LOL, the one area where fat is good...and they lack it.
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1. No, pregenolone is for blocking 5a-reductase. Since the AndroHard is already 5a-reduced it wont help reduce the androgenic potency.

2. They should help.

3. It should help by encouraging nutrient delivery (blood flow) which may help mitigate the hairloss.

-Eric
 
All things being equal (especially the dose in this case), would there be any difference in shedding between AH V1 and V2?

I think that is a confusing way of asking which of the androhards, if any, would be worse on the hair line.
 
Primordial Perf said:
1. No, pregenolone is for blocking 5a-reductase. Since the AndroHard is already 5a-reduced it wont help reduce the androgenic potency.

2. They should help.

3. It should help by encouraging nutrient delivery (blood flow) which may help mitigate the hairloss.

-Eric
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Thank you Eric for the answers. :thanks:
 
freefall365 said:
All things being equal (especially the dose in this case), would there be any difference in shedding between AH V1 and V2?

I think that is a confusing way of asking which of the androhards, if any, would be worse on the hair line.
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dht will be brutal on the hairline, if you are predisposed to mpb, its a battle you cant win, regardless if you buy nizoral or any of those things

conversely if you have a thick head of hair, no worries, if you are 30+ and its like that, dht wont do much

ill assume v2 is stronger than v1, in all areas, incl shedding, get yourself a schick hydro and end it!
 
For those with hair loss concerns, check out this thread regarding Toco-8 and hair:
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sking6464 said:
dht will be brutal on the hairline, if you are predisposed to mpb, its a battle you cant win, regardless if you buy nizoral or any of those things

conversely if you have a thick head of hair, no worries, if you are 30+ and its like that, dht wont do much

ill assume v2 is stronger than v1, in all areas, incl shedding, get yourself a schick hydro and end it!
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Yeah I would assume it might be a bigger concern considering that the new one is more effective.
 
HereToStudy said:
Yeah I would assume it might be a bigger concern considering that the new one is more effective.
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Nettle root and some Toco-8 sounds like it will do me right, can't wait!!! :439:
 
oufinny said:
Nettle root and some Toco-8 sounds like it will do me right, can't wait!!! :439:
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Oufinny is a model for shampoo commercials, has to make his hair look thick and shiny lol

I don't shed much, but when taking toco-8 I barely see any hairs coming out of my head. Beard thickens up as well.
 
oufinny said:
Nettle root and some Toco-8 sounds like it will do me right, can't wait!!! :439:
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thats my plan for my upcoming test/dbol/androhard cycle (12-14wks)....but im bald, so if i can braid my wires ill let you know lol
 
Good to hear ;)

That said, how old are you, did you actually check your PSA values, and do prostate issues run in your family?

rulk22 said:
The old Androhard worked great and I didnt really see any negative sides from it, such as prostate issues. Definatly looking forward to trying and comparing the new version.
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Whacked said:
Good to hear ;)

That said, how old are you, did you actually check your PSA values, and do prostate issues run in your family?
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I've seen a study showing that in the absence of estrogen, DHT can actually improve BPH. Just a heads up, I'm tight on time or I'd link
 
Rodja said:
Estrogen has an almost forgotten role in the shedding equation.
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In more ways that just that, estrogen is overlooked as a key to a proper hormone balance in general. I didn't realize that I was crushing it in my PCT and it had a very negative impact on me.
 
Whacked said:
Good to hear ;)

That said, how old are you, did you actually check your PSA values, and do prostate issues run in your family?
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little tidbit, although its possible BPH may have some genetic component, there have now been enough studies to show that propensity to prostate cancer does not have any genetic link. so you are at no higher risk if your family has a history of prostate cancer than if they don't
 
EasyEJL said:
little tidbit, although its possible BPH may have some genetic component, there have now been enough studies to show that propensity to prostate cancer does not have any genetic link. so you are at no higher risk if your family has a history of prostate cancer than if they don't
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Direct link to genetics? I honestly do not like the implications of no indirect links personally.
 
Rodja said:
Estrogen has an almost forgotten role in the shedding equation.
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estrogen is the root to many evils in men when not kept in check
 
HereToStudy said:
If you knew how many conversations I have had in PM with guys that want to throw strong AIs into any possible mix, even on compounds that wont aromatize, you would laugh.
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No, he would grimace and then punch you. Because he has no estrogen... so all he feels is hatred :firedevil:

lol

I agree though, the AIs are blown out of proportion a lot of the time.
 
Rodja said:
The key phrase is in check and not to eradicate it.
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I found this out during my PCT right now, had it crushed, no sex drive at all, dropped the AI post cycle support, immediately in two days started to feel better. People overdose and overuse AIs then wonder why when they get off of them they have such a drastic change or look soft...
 
oufinny said:
I found this out during my PCT right now, had it crushed, no sex drive at all, dropped the AI post cycle support, immediately in two days started to feel better. People overdose and overuse AIs then wonder why when they get off of them they have such a drastic change or look soft...
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Unfortunately, there are those who even still advocate AI only cycles. Hurts my brain.
 
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