The Future of Primordial Performance

jcalvert86 said:
Then you have my business.

Will be placing an order once the site returns.


I couldn't get through the write-ups before the site went down.. any on cycle estrogen control necessary, or posy cycle therapy for a mass/hard cycle?


Also.. since I know someone with enough $$ will push the envelope.. what's the limit on dosing per day for mass/hard?
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PCT yes, on cycle depends on how you are going to run it. Honestly when I get the funds I will be doing 12 weeks of either all three or double dose AndroMass and AndroLean at the end. <That will require a SERM, possible AI for cycle, I recommend Erase or Formestane, as well as HCG. You can push the envelope with these for sure, but maybe wait for the feedback so you can gauge it.
 
twistid said:
Is the presale over or did the site just go down?

Also is it possible for you guys to scratch out that steroid saying on the shipments? That's not very good to have when your shipping to overseas military.
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Just say it's a misprint :O)!
 
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Switch to this!!!
Best DS Company imo!
My friend used it, and his site was never down :)!
 
twistid said:
Is the presale over or did the site just go down?

Also is it possible for you guys to scratch out that steroid saying on the shipments? That's not very good to have when your shipping to overseas military.
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Site went down, put that you want steroids scratched off, if you are serious, in the comments section not sure if they will do it, but I don't see why not.
 
If I order other products on the same order as the Andro series will they ship seprately or will I be waiting until March for the other products as well?
 
ryansm said:
If there is an issue I can take care of it just let me know.
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hey man not complaing just asking. originally some couple thousnad posts ago it was said that ah will have bio-eq to roughly 500mg mast. in the official write up it states only to have a bio-eq to roughly 200mg dht e. it was the comparison to mast which had attracted me not dht.
 
ryansm said:
PCT yes, on cycle depends on how you are going to run it. Honestly when I get the funds I will be doing 12 weeks of either all three or double dose AndroMass and AndroLean at the end. <That will require a SERM, possible AI for cycle, I recommend Erase or Formestane, as well as HCG. You can push the envelope with these for sure, but maybe wait for the feedback so you can gauge it.
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I'm claiming ignorance here.. but the bottle suggest no longer then 6 weeks, we can run this safely beyond that?
 
Orangatang said:
:lmao: Its Fukcin ON! :chairshot: ----> :dead:
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Oh HELL YEAH MUDA ****A!!!! lmfao
:saw::saw::saw::saw::shoot::shoot::shoot::shoot::trout::twisted::op::redeemerwhore:

Beat that! :)
 
ok site back up, im buying my andromass now...

I clicked order and the whole site just went white at this URL Invalid Link Removed ?
 
VolcomX311 said:
I'm claiming ignorance here.. but the bottle suggest no longer then 6 weeks, we can run this safely beyond that?
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Non-liver toxic. Minimal damage to other important organs.
I would run 8-12 weeks personally.
Run Exmestane on cycle, along with Fizogen's Cycle Assist.
As well as HCG, and HMG injections.

PCT Run TRS+Torem, and take a whole lot of Vitamin C :P
 
jayice said:
ive got another ques. can androlean still burn fat on a healthy but high calorie diet?
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...Yes. About how high cal is your diet. and what are you eating?(Just out of curiosity)
 
yea... just hang in there... I got my order in :) Thanks PP and all the reps !!
 
This is to s.k., bro look into west side for skinny bastards. I used it when I was in college and on anabolics and I responded very, very well to it. Might be the push you need with the androseries to get to the next level, if you need help setting up a program let me know.
 
HATEFULone said:
This is to s.k., bro look into west side for skinny bastards. I used it when I was in college and on anabolics and I responded very, very well to it. Might be the push you need with the androseries to get to the next level, if you need help setting up a program let me know.
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Appreciate it bro :)!
Ill shoot you a P.M ;) lol
 
S.K said:
Non-liver toxic. Minimal damage to other important organs.
I would run 8-12 weeks personally.
Run Exmestane on cycle, along with Fizogen's Cycle Assist.
As well as HCG, and HMG injections.

PCT Run TRS+Torem, and take a whole lot of Vitamin C :P
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Hmmm... 6 weeks of Androlean + Androhard or 12 of one or the other......
 
Can you use any of these without a serm I'm guessing andromass wil need a serm what about androhard? And one more question what's the point in androhard and androlean don't they both do the same thing??
 
steve74 said:
Sounds like you need to set aside a couple separate bank accounts, one for you and one for your wife. Contribute equal amounts to both and have those as your "no questions asked" funds. You both need to have a bit of money put aside to spend on whatever you want without having to get nagged at, even when money is tight.
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Oh, we have the money, its just the amount of money I've dropped the past two months has been kinda high. I ran some PM and had my protein and preworkout run out, so I had to replace them and buy all the cycle stuff. She'll chill by April when I'm ready for my next cycle, but, I'll have to pay an extra $50 for the andromass then...
 
Gym4Life said:
Can you use any of these without a serm I'm guessing andromass wil need a serm what about androhard? And one more question what's the point in androhard and androlean don't they both do the same thing??
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I always use a SERM, torem usually, but it seems like a 4 week cycle of androhard or androlean you could get away with using the trs, but that will remain to be seen, it will be interesting to see some bloodwork considering that actives these will convert into.
 
S.K said:
...Yes. About how high cal is your diet. and what are you eating?(Just out of curiosity)
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ok. its not really high calorie as in 5000 calories and stuff like that i meant higher than matienence. the diet that im on i found on forums.steroid site. and tailored it to my needs its:

Early Breakfast
Plain oatmeal with milk and artificical sweetner.
Fresh Fruits (e.g. Oranges, Apples, Grapes etc)
Whey Protein

Main Breakfast
Hard Boiled Eggs
Wheat Toast with I Can't Believe its Not Butter
Whey Protein

Lunch
Boneless/Skinless Chicken Breast, with whole wheat pasta
Broccolli and Carrots

Mid Afternoon Meal

Extra Lean Hamburger on Low Fat Whole Wheat Multi-Grain bun
Asparagus, Salad and Corn on the Cob

Dinner

Sirloin Steak
Baked Potato
Salad

Late Night Dinner

Fish Fillets
Brown Rice
Peanut Butter
Green Beans

this is about 3500 calories. Got another ques do you think androlean by its self would be able to build muscle effectively? or do i have to stack?
 
HATEFULone said:
I always use a SERM, torem usually, but it seems like a 4 week cycle of androhard or androlean you could get away with using the trs, but that will remain to be seen, it will be interesting to see some bloodwork considering that actives these will convert into.
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Actually, Eric said PCT probably isn't even necessary for a four week cycle of AndroLean.

AndroLean is one of the least supressive formulas in our line -- probably only 30-50% suppression of LH & FSH. You could get away with a 4 week cycle and no PCT... if you go 6 weeks I would recommend a PCT of some kind.
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hoopem6 said:
Actually, Eric said PCT probably isn't even necessary for a four week cycle of AndroLean.
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From reading the numbers I agree it doesn't appear that a true pct is necessary, but I'm sure a natural T boosting stack after the androlean wouldn't hurt, just to keep things rolling.

Also did anyone check out the stack builder? Kinda cool thing you get to drag and drop things, too bad my eyes were bigger than my wallet I had over a grand in product lol.
 
What about taking any of these products while also on test e? Was looking to finish off my cycle w an oral...
 
HATEFULone said:
From reading the numbers I agree it doesn't appear that a true pct is necessary, but I'm sure a natural T boosting stack after the androlean wouldn't hurt, just to keep things rolling.

Also did anyone check out the stack builder? Kinda cool thing you get to drag and drop things, too bad my eyes were bigger than my wallet I had over a grand in product lol.
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For sure. Bulk DAA, or TCF-1, would be a nice post-cycle addition. Especially since both can be had for under $20...
 
jjbogner said:
What about taking any of these products while also on test e? Was looking to finish off my cycle w an oral...
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Androlean or androhard would work best depending on your goals, I'm thinking of getting some for the end of my test e and eq 15 weeker, finish up the last 4 weeks using one of the above, should give me some good cutting ability and also a smoother transition into pct.
 
I cannot wait until this is in the hands of customers so we can get some reviews! If all of this turns out to work as advertised, I say we vote Eric for President!!!!
 
Evil Eagle said:
I cannot wait until this is in the hands of customers so we can get some reviews! If all of this turns out to work as advertised, I say we vote Eric for President!!!!
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I'll be starting a 6-8wk mass/hard cycle once the product ships.

Starting at 5'11 180 12% so we'll see what happens.
 
150% money-back guarantee? I gotta be honest, that is flat-out ballsy. With that in mind, I don't see why anyone would have a problem trying these products. If they work as advertised, great. If they don't, PP pays you. Not too shabby.

The Androseries is either going to be an absolute smashing success, or an epic, company-collapsing disaster. I don't see a middle ground.

Eagerly awaiting some logs from some experienced users.
 
****kk this is so tempting to order 2 bottles of AndroHard right now...even though I wouldn't fun them until like October anyway lol. Hmmmm what to do what to do
 
Dragon13 said:
150% money-back guarantee? I gotta be honest, that is flat-out ballsy. With that in mind, I don't see why anyone would have a problem trying these products. If they work as advertised, great. If they don't, PP pays you. Not too shabby.
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if you go to the website there is a terms and condition of the 150% guarantee. it aint so cut and dry man!
 
Well I just bought up some androlean to take the last part of my test e cycle, if all goes well I should rip up nicely, so I hope this stuff works as advertised!!!!!!!
 
jayice said:
if you go to the website there is a terms and condition of the 150% guarantee. it aint so cut and dry man!
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3. The 150% money back guarantee applies to the AndroSeries products only. To qualify for 150% money back, feedback must be provided about user age, training, diet, cycle history, cycle length, dose used and concurrently used supplements or drugs. No information is required for standard 100% money back guarantee.

Seems pretty cut-and-dry to me.
 
I looked at a stack using the stack maker which is a cool idea.

Stack came to 357.67 but shipping was 44.70 i sthis correct ?? I'm ok with the stack price but that shipping kills it for me
 
dollar662 said:
I looked at a stack using the stack maker which is a cool idea.

Stack came to 357.67 but shipping was 44.70 i sthis correct ?? I'm ok with the stack price but that shipping kills it for me
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forget it my bad it defaulted to expressmail. I fixed it

Thanks
 
dollar662 said:
I looked at a stack using the stack maker which is a cool idea.

Stack came to 357.67 but shipping was 44.70 i sthis correct ?? I'm ok with the stack price but that shipping kills it for me
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shipping is free ?
 
Dragon13 said:
3. The 150% money back guarantee applies to the AndroSeries products only. To qualify for 150% money back, feedback must be provided about user age, training, diet, cycle history, cycle length, dose used and concurrently used supplements or drugs. No information is required for standard 100% money back guarantee.

Seems pretty cut-and-dry to me.
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i meant as in its not just "yeah i dont feel this products working, i want my 150%!" instead you have to list all what you were taking and how effective your training and diet were etc.
 
jayice said:
i meant as in its not just "yeah i dont feel this products working, i want my 150%!" instead you have to list all what you were taking and how effective your training and diet were etc.
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It's simple: just log said AndroSeries product to ensure 150% compensation.
 
man this just looks a little too good to be true
 
OK-- they're offering 30% off if you order 6 bottles, but I just learned it has to be 6 of the same product. (I tried to order 3 Mass and 3 Hard, and I couldn't get the discount.) So I'm trying to decide which product I want the most. (And if I can possibly use 6 bottles of the same stuff, lol.)
 
ImJ2x said:
OK-- they're offering 30% off if you order 6 bottles, but I just learned it has to be 6 of the same product. (I tried to order 3 Mass and 3 Hard, and I couldn't get the discount.) So I'm trying to decide which product I want the most. (And if I can possibly use 6 bottles of the same stuff, lol.)
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Go with AndroMass and make a few decent cycles. :D
 
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