TulsaTalons
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which do u guys prefer on cycle? cycle assist by CEL or life support by AI? which is more effective on BP and liver? which is more cost efficient? thanx guys.
cycle assist or life support?
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TulsaTalons
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thanx for the quick reply brah. im strongly leaning towards life support as well, its half as many caps a day. and i get sooooo sick of taking 34 caps per day :aargh:
TulsaTalons
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would 1 scoop of cycle support per day be sufficient?
Hawthorn Berry 1,000 mg -
Saw Palmetto 300 mg -
Red Yeast Rice 1,200 mg -
Silymarin (Milk Thistle Extract) 1,000 mg -
NAC 1,200 mg -
Celery Seed Extract 150 mg -
Nettle Root 250 mg -
Idebenone 100 mg -
Policosonol 20 mg -
no reason
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Cycle Assist Supplement Facts
Serving Size: 4 Capsules
Servings per Container: 60
Amount Per Serving % Daily Value
N-Acetyl-l-Cysteine 750 mg **
Milk Thistle (Standardized to 80% Silymarin) 500 mg **
Pantothenic Acid (Vitamin B-5) 500 mg 5000%
Hawthorn Berry Extract (Satndardized to 1.8% Vitexin) 450 mg **
Vitamin B-6 (Pyridoxine HCL) 50 mg 10000%
Saw Palmetto Extract (Standardized to 45% Fatty Acids) 160 mg **
Celery Seed Extract (10:1) 75 mg **
Grape Seed Extract (95% Proanthocyanidins) 75 mg **
Policosanol 20 mg **
Zinc Gluconate 15 mg 100%
* Percent Daily Values are based on a 2000 calorie diet.
** Percent Daily Values not established.
OTHER INGREDIENTS: Magnesium Stearate
Cycle Assist Directions:
As a dietary supplement, take 4 capsules twice daily spaced out 8 to 12 hours apart, preferably with meals.
Life Support Supplement Facts
Serving Size: 2 capsules
Servings per Container: 60
2 Servings Provide
Amount Per Serving % Daily Value
Red Yeast Rice 600mg **
Silymarin (milk thistle extract) 500mg **
NAC 600mg **
Hawthron Bery 500mg **
Saw Palmetto 150mg **
Policosonol 10mg **
Celery Seed Extract 125mg **
Nettle Root 125mg **
Idebenone 100mg **
* Percent Daily Values are based on a 2000 calorie diet.
** Percent Daily Values not established.
OTHER INGREDIENTS: Gelatin, Cellulose.
Life Support Directions:
Take 1 serving 1 in AM & 1 in PM for a TOTAL of FOUR Capsules per day.
Serving Size: 4 Capsules
Servings per Container: 60
Amount Per Serving % Daily Value
N-Acetyl-l-Cysteine 750 mg **
Milk Thistle (Standardized to 80% Silymarin) 500 mg **
Pantothenic Acid (Vitamin B-5) 500 mg 5000%
Hawthorn Berry Extract (Satndardized to 1.8% Vitexin) 450 mg **
Vitamin B-6 (Pyridoxine HCL) 50 mg 10000%
Saw Palmetto Extract (Standardized to 45% Fatty Acids) 160 mg **
Celery Seed Extract (10:1) 75 mg **
Grape Seed Extract (95% Proanthocyanidins) 75 mg **
Policosanol 20 mg **
Zinc Gluconate 15 mg 100%
* Percent Daily Values are based on a 2000 calorie diet.
** Percent Daily Values not established.
OTHER INGREDIENTS: Magnesium Stearate
Cycle Assist Directions:
As a dietary supplement, take 4 capsules twice daily spaced out 8 to 12 hours apart, preferably with meals.
Life Support Supplement Facts
Serving Size: 2 capsules
Servings per Container: 60
2 Servings Provide
Amount Per Serving % Daily Value
Red Yeast Rice 600mg **
Silymarin (milk thistle extract) 500mg **
NAC 600mg **
Hawthron Bery 500mg **
Saw Palmetto 150mg **
Policosonol 10mg **
Celery Seed Extract 125mg **
Nettle Root 125mg **
Idebenone 100mg **
* Percent Daily Values are based on a 2000 calorie diet.
** Percent Daily Values not established.
OTHER INGREDIENTS: Gelatin, Cellulose.
Life Support Directions:
Take 1 serving 1 in AM & 1 in PM for a TOTAL of FOUR Capsules per day.
bashman
Well-known member
Read conflicting stuff about this so I went with CEL Cycle Assist
TulsaTalons
Member
what was the conflicting stuff homie?
stxnas
Well-known member
One scoop of Cycle Support is equal to taking one day's worth of Life Support. I take one scoop of CS daily. I've been taking it more or less on a daily basis for many years now.
IMO, research the ingredients in each product and then take the one that you feel meets your needs best :thumbsup:
IMO, research the ingredients in each product and then take the one that you feel meets your needs best :thumbsup:
urbanski
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A full serving of LS is equal to 1/2 serving of CS...or one scoop. Your call if you want pills or orange powder. If you want extra B6 for gyno buy bulk P5P.
I trust AI and CS2.0 highly, but you users decide for yourself. I have tons of CEL products too, and have used CA in the past.
gymrat827
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Life support and Cycle assist are equal doses of all the support supps. one bottle of CA is not double the amount of LS. LS is just more potent in each cap thats why your taking 4 instead of 8.
The AI powder cycle support tastes horrible. And I mean horrible, i threw half the stuff out cuz i couldnt hack it.
The AI powder cycle support tastes horrible. And I mean horrible, i threw half the stuff out cuz i couldnt hack it.
bashman
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"prolonged use of red yeast (statiins) can cause a lack of coq10, and many other sides we aren't aware of yet."
"Presumably (red yeast rice) carries the same serious risks as statin drugs, such as life-threatening liver inflammation and rhabdomyolysis (muscle tissue breakdown that can cause kidney failure). It should not be used in conjunction with statins, niacin, or drugs in the fibrate family."
This is what I have read from other experienced posters.
stxnas
Well-known member
This is no longer really very pertinent. The FDA passed laws that greatly limited the amounts of statin that can be contained in RYR OTC supplements. Many of the benefits from RYR are now likely attributed to the plant sterols it contains (Betasitosterol, Campesterol and Stigmasterol).
FWIIW, the Orange 72 serving Cycle Support v 2.0 contains Grape Seed Extract in place of the RYR that's in the other flavors.
suresha
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The standardizations CEL does make a difference...not to mention it $26
!!!!!!!!!!!!BINGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
they're both great, granted don't we all agree. ingredient wise they're almost identical, so now it comes to dollars and cents.................and thats where CEL takes the cake:friday:
TulsaTalons
Member
has anyone ever done just bulk hawthorne berry and milk thistle?
specmike
Active member
If you do a label comparison, keep a few things in mind.
CEL CA and AI CS are both 30 day supply bottles, unless you get the newer AI CS 72 serving size. From what I am seeing, comparing prices at various places the CEL product is a bit less expensive. However, if you compare ingredients, the AI CS has more of the primary ingredients per serving. If amounts are critical you really need to decide which one has the amounts you want. I'm leaning towards the AI as I don't want to haggle over a few $$$ when my liver is taking a beating.
CEL CA and AI CS are both 30 day supply bottles, unless you get the newer AI CS 72 serving size. From what I am seeing, comparing prices at various places the CEL product is a bit less expensive. However, if you compare ingredients, the AI CS has more of the primary ingredients per serving. If amounts are critical you really need to decide which one has the amounts you want. I'm leaning towards the AI as I don't want to haggle over a few $$$ when my liver is taking a beating.
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specmike
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The standardizations are just as important(if not more) as the ingred dosages
Absolutely and I took that into account when I was comparing. Both are standardized to 80%.
Another thing to keep in mind is, just how much of any particular ingredient do you want or how much is effective? "IF" 500mg standardized to 80% is enough, then why pay more for a more expensive product, right? But, the flip side is, if 500mg/80% is not enough, then the daily dosages are going to work out about the same money wise if you have to take more of the lower dose product to compensate.
Let me clarify that I am not really picking sides here. But, you do have to do some digging to really make an apples v apples comparison. Obviously, if you do any reading online then you'll see that both are good products from reputable companies. Either should do the job.
