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Ephedrine HCL

MidwestBeast said:
I'll hop in on a few things.

As far as dosing, I used the recommendations from the site I had already linked, which was: 25mg Ephedrine + 200mg Caffeine 3x a day, 4 hours apart (on empty stomach each time). I also added EGCg along with the first 2 doses of the day. I did not use aspirin (read link for reasoning).

I would highly recommend NOT running this while on a cycle. It just seems like an added chance to screw with blood pressure, etc. However, if one were to run it on cycle, my personal opinion would be on something incredibly basic and not on an oral cycle. Like I said, it just seems like giving yourself more opportunities to screw with blood pressure.

In regards to it being muscle sparing or not, I personally can't really say. I ran it about a year and a half ago with some awesome success - and that was before I even really knew about nutrition. I dropped a pretty decent amount of fat and it was when I first really got my abs carved out. The next time around, I'll use a natty test booster along with it for some added benefit. And actually, I'm planning on running E/C and adding some Lean Xtreme along with it for cortisol control along the way.

Hope that's helpful.
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It was! I had a feeling of running it on a cycle might be a bad idea but it might be good thing for bridging :dunno: I'm going to purchase it tomorrow but I'm going to look for WWB rather than Aspirin. If I can't find it I'll go with 81mg Aspirin.

Sad thing I have just learned about this and already I personally got 3 people on it.It takes days or even fukking weeks trying to talk people into diet pills but talking them into ECA or a PH cycle takes like minutes, or even seconds...:sad:
 
luelinks said:
It was! I had a feeling of running it on a cycle might be a bad idea but it might be good thing for bridging :dunno: I'm going to purchase it tomorrow but I'm going to look for WWB rather than Aspirin. If I can't find it I'll go with 81mg Aspirin.

Sad thing I have just learned about this and already I personally got 3 people on it.It takes days or even fukking weeks trying to talk people into diet pills but talking them into ECA or a PH cycle takes like minutes, or even seconds...:sad:
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Did u go with fitshop? I know nutraplanet and bb.com have wwbark, fairly cheap, and nutra had caffeine on sale, i got 240 (SNS brand) for 11 bucks and the ww bark is Now Foods 100 for 4.75
 
mikaveli06 said:
Did u go with fitshop? I know nutraplanet and bb.com have wwbark, fairly cheap, and nutra had caffeine on sale, i got 240 (SNS brand) for 11 bucks and the ww bark is Now Foods 100 for 4.75
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I'm thinking about it. I got a coupon for primatene and my friend mom works at the pharmacy so she could get me at least 10% off. That would make it $7 for 60 caps of it which would last me 10 days. But I'm still thinking of going with fitshop.
 
luelinks said:
I'm thinking about it. I got a coupon for primatene and my friend mom works at the pharmacy so she could get me at least 10% off. That would make it $7 for 60 caps of it which would last me 10 days. But I'm still thinking of going with fitshop.
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I went to CVS and got cvs brand primatene for 4 bucks for a 24ct


EDIT: box was 24ct im an idiot
 
Ephedrine is a stimulant drug that belongs to the group of medicines known as sympathomimetics. Specifically, it is both an alpha and beta adrenergic agonist (you may remember clenbuterol is a selective beta-2 agonist). In addition, ephedrine enhances the release of norepinephrine, a strong endogenous alpha agonist. The action of this compound is notably similar to that of the body's primary adrenergic hormone epinephrine (adrenaline), which also exhibits action toward both alpha and beta receptors. When administered, ephedrine will notably increase the activity of the central nervous system, as well as have a stimulatory effect on other target cells. This may produce some effects that can be beneficial to a bodybuilder or athlete. For starters, the user's body temperature should rise slightly as more free fatty acids are produced from the breakdown of triglycerides in adipose tissue (stimulating metabolism). This may aid in body fat reductions and increased vascularity. It is also believed that the anabolic effectiveness of steroids might be increased with this substance (mildly), as an increase in metabolic rate may equate to an increase in fat, protein and carbohydrate conversion by the body. The stimulant effect of this drug will also increase the force of skeletal muscle contractions.
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BAM!
 
Thanks Midwest! :thumbsup:
 
If you can get ephedrine straight up and not in a Primatene or Bronkaid you should go that route as these both have Guafenesin in them, which we really don't need.

From Wiki when I searched 'Prolonged Use of Guafenesin Side Effects'
Consumption of guaifenesin in above-normal quantities has the potential to cause side effects. Known side effects include nausea, vomiting, and (rarely) the formation of kidney stones of uric acid (uric acid nephrolithiasis).[13] Nausea and vomiting can be reduced by taking guaifenesin with meals.[1] The risk of forming kidney stones can be reduced by maintaining good hydration and increasing the pH of urine (see Uric acid nephrolithiasis). Rarely, severe allergic reactions may occur, including a rash or swelling of the lips or face, which may require urgent medical assistance. Mild dry mouth or chapped lips may also occur when taking this medication. Drinking a glass of water is recommended each time one takes guaifenesin.[14] Water helps to reduce dry mouth, chapped lips, and the risk of kidney stones, and increases the effectiveness of the drug in hydrating mucus.

I've also read of painful acne and nightmares.

I only take it 1x per day first thing in the morning (around 6AM) before the gym with 1 aspirin, 1 caffeine tab and a large strong cup of coffee... or occasionally with Jack3d when looking for a real kick in the ass. 1x per day keeps my heart rate up until around 2-3:00. Taking anything later than that stops me from sleeping.
Then again, I may just be sensitive to ephedrine.

R
 
would it be ok to stack it with TT-33 or Alpha T2?
 
mikaveli06 said:
Im curerently stacking with at2,just be ready to sweat, besides that no other issues
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Is ECA stack truly as good as everyone makes it to be? or is it a hype cause it got banned?
 
Its not guarentied magic fat melter, but miles ahead of anything on the market ive tried, energy is better than dimeth 1,3, i dont crash afterwards, destroys appetite, and i personally dont get cravings for any kind of foods (sweetsfor most people) id say its probably one of the most effective of any supplement ive tried in any category imo
 
mikaveli06 said:
Its not guarentied magic fat melter, but miles ahead of anything on the market ive tried, energy is better than dimeth 1,3, i dont crash afterwards, destroys appetite, and i personally dont get cravings for any kind of foods (sweetsfor most people) id say its probably one of the most effective of any supplement ive tried in any category imo
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so how many % BF do you think you can lose on it? Also are you doing white willow bark or aspirin?
 
mikaveli06 said:
Its not guarentied magic fat melter, but miles ahead of anything on the market ive tried, energy is better than dimeth 1,3, i dont crash afterwards, destroys appetite, and i personally dont get cravings for any kind of foods (sweetsfor most people) id say its probably one of the most effective of any supplement ive tried in any category imo
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BTW which brand did you get from fitshop?
 
i got the Kaizen brand, but i havent heard anything bad bout the other brand they have either....I got both wwb and asperin (low-dose 81mg) just to see if there is a difference, and if there is i cant tell.........in the last 6-8 weeks ive been using eca, ive actually gained 3lbs....but my waist has gone down 3-4 inches and have added 20lbs to my bench max.......eca of coarse didnt give me strength, but ive also been lifting pretty heavy and think triazole has helped in the strength dept........i havent had bodyfat checked in a while, but its obviously been dropping just from looking in the mirror and the fact that ive gotten smaller, but weigh more
 
mikaveli06 said:
Its not guarentied magic fat melter, but miles ahead of anything on the market ive tried, energy is better than dimeth 1,3, i dont crash afterwards, destroys appetite, and i personally dont get cravings for any kind of foods (sweetsfor most people) id say its probably one of the most effective of any supplement ive tried in any category imo
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I agree with all of this.
 
mikaveli06 said:
i got the Kaizen brand, but i havent heard anything bad bout the other brand they have either....I got both wwb and asperin (low-dose 81mg) just to see if there is a difference, and if there is i cant tell.........in the last 6-8 weeks ive been using eca, ive actually gained 3lbs....but my waist has gone down 3-4 inches and have added 20lbs to my bench max.......eca of coarse didnt give me strength, but ive also been lifting pretty heavy and think triazole has helped in the strength dept........i havent had bodyfat checked in a while, but its obviously been dropping just from looking in the mirror and the fact that ive gotten smaller, but weigh more
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Are you on ECA or PH :lol: jk. Damn those are some good results!
 
mikaveli06 said:
Its not guarentied magic fat melter, but miles ahead of anything on the market ive tried, energy is better than dimeth 1,3, i dont crash afterwards, destroys appetite, and i personally dont get cravings for any kind of foods (sweetsfor most people) id say its probably one of the most effective of any supplement ive tried in any category imo
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It's way ahead of the current thermos, plus its cheap. Two boxes of bronkaid, bottle of caffeine, and a bottle of baby aspirin cost maybe 25 dollars. Any decent supp stack (OEP, AT2, Lean Xtreme, Green Tea Caps) and you are looking at over $100. I'll take cheap and effective.
 
bikeswimlive said:
It's way ahead of the current thermos, plus its cheap. Two boxes of bronkaid, bottle of caffeine, and a bottle of baby aspirin cost maybe 25 dollars. Any decent supp stack (OEP, AT2, Lean Xtreme, Green Tea Caps) and you are looking at over $100. I'll take cheap and effective.
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Yeah I'm turning 21 soon so I'm not going to try anymore diet pills anymore unless there free :)

bikeswimlive said:
I lost 12 pounds in four weeks the first time I ran ECA. I did cardio after my lifts every time I went to the gym and ate very clean.
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Yep I learn cardio post workout is so much better than cardio in the morning.
 
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