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panjo

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Hi,

I am planning on running a cycle of pplex bridged into mdrol for 5/6 weeks and I am considering the benefits of including formastene.
I run pp/sd once before and loved every minute, the only complaint I would have is that towards the end of the cycle the bloat was a little more than I was comfortable with?
Would formastene help with this?

Anybody who has used it during a ph cycle please give your comments?
 
I used CEL Form and loved it!

However, bottle didnt last me as long as I wanted it to :(..

TheBigT introduced me to forma stanzol, which is the same as CEL Form, just has twice as much in it! I bought that for my upcoming PCT.
 
Both compounds you are using do not aromatize. You might just end up crushing your estrogen levels down way too low and have a big rebound once you hit PCT.

I would use the formestane in PCT at a dose that does not cause shutdown, AND taper it down.

I only know the dosages for forma-stanzol to do this so CEL is gonna have to help you here with the dosage and how much to taper down by. Formestane in general is a great addition to PCT if used right.
 
Regardless of what people say, Phera is a progestin type compound and may upregulate the progesterone receptor and if you are prone to gyno, you may get gyno/puffy nips on phera... If you know you may easily get gyno, use formestane during phera because lots of users report gyno from phera..
 
JCunningham said:
I used CEL Form and loved it!

However, bottle didnt last me as long as I wanted it to :(..

TheBigT introduced me to forma stanzol, which is the same as CEL Form, just has twice as much in it! I bought that for my upcoming PCT.
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This!

I would also prefer Forma Stanzol, because it has more Form in it.
 
JCunningham said:
Regardless of what people say, Phera is a progestin type compound and may upregulate the progesterone receptor and if you are prone to gyno, you may get gyno/puffy nips on phera... If you know you may easily get gyno, use formestane during phera because lots of users report gyno from phera..
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progesterone-related gyno is NOT the same as estro-related gyno. Cabergoline or P5P might suit you better for progestins...
 
ktatro1 said:
progesterone-related gyno is NOT the same as estro-related gyno. Cabergoline or P5P might suit you better for progestins...
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Well no sh!t my friend :).. Glad you understand that about as much as I do!

Formestane works at down regulating the progesterone receptors, reducing estro, prolactin and progesterone..
 
Vitex or p5p or b6 would be better for a progestin but an AI would suffice. I was just running X Tren and am gyno prone. A week into the cycle I began getting serious swells in the glands, as well as puffy nipps. I ran Inhibit E for a few days and it helped taper the symptoms until the free estro that was running in my body was killed off when there was more shut down. Progestins wont cause gyno on their own, they need estrogen left over before shutdown in order to cause gyno.
 
I have run phera/mdrol before with no gyno problems used nolva for pct and all was good.
I generally steer clear of any tren products as when I ran it I def showed signs of gyno leading me to stay well clear of any 19 nor product.
Are you saying that phera can also cause progesterone related gyno? If so I would prob have a re-think on my next cycle.
I have read good things about stacking mdrol with stanodrol, i know stacking / bridging isnt a great idea but I am not a fan of short 3 week cycles, in my experiance it just isnt long enough to get the best gains. I have also used epi and d-plex solo with no problems.

Can you guys give me some idea as to how you would set up the cycle including form. based on phera being used weeks 1-3 and mdrol 3-6 with a one week bridge. PCT at moment woud be nolva weeks 7 - 10. Also is cel pct assist worth including and if so how would you do this.
Obviosly I will be taking all support supps.
 
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panjo said:
is forma stan available in the UK?. I have never seen it
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If you mean Forma Stanzol then not yet. I hope it will be available at predator nutrition soon. (They are already getting HCGenerate, Need2Slin and N2Guard!)
 
is running formestane alongside nolva ok for pct or is there any reason they should not be used together.
Also when would pct assist be used, during first week of pct or later on?
 
The formestame should be used on cycle and should overlap during the first 2 weeks of PCT (tapering down). So you need to determine how much to use based on that. I would run 4 weeks during cycle and 2 weeks during PCT for a total of 6 weeks. The PCT assist should start on day 1 of PCT, same time when you start the nolva. Run PCT assist straight through to the end (4 weeks), no tapering is needed for this. If you are using cortisol control, such as suppress-c, this should be started on week 3 of PCT and be used for 4-5 weeks (tapering down near the end).
 
Forma is great on progestenic cycle because as the others mentioned it WILL decrease progesterone receptors while decreasing estrogen. mrsupps is legit
 
7-methoxyflavone for Aromatase inhibition... your thoughts
 
You will like forma bro give it a shot have need heard a bad word about it yet!
 
I'm contemplating running some katanadrol with my D-Zine cycle I plan on logging soon. I am curious if I should run forma with this stack or just dose the forma and D-Zine and leave out the katanadrol? maybe even run something like D-Zine weeks 1-4 / katanadol and Forma Stanzol weeks 3 - 6. not sure exactly. I have been prone to gyno years ago and just want to keep from having a episode late into the D-Zine cycle. Thank?
 
Id run this
Katana 1-4 250 mg ED
DMZ 1-4 2 Caps Ed
Forma 1-4 10 pumps everyday for gyno control as well as givin your cycle alittle more kick
PCT
Phytoserm
Hcgenerate
Sustain Alpha
 
thenightmare2 said:
Id run this
Katana 1-4 250 mg ED
DMZ 1-4 2 Caps Ed
Forma 1-4 10 pumps everyday for gyno control as well as givin your cycle alittle more kick
PCT
Phytoserm
Hcgenerate
Sustain Alpha
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I like this set up, and I would also throw in either Tore. or Clomid
 
hagels316 said:
The formestame should be used on cycle and should overlap during the first 2 weeks of PCT (tapering down). So you need to determine how much to use based on that. I would run 4 weeks during cycle and 2 weeks during PCT for a total of 6 weeks. The PCT assist should start on day 1 of PCT, same time when you start the nolva. Run PCT assist straight through to the end (4 weeks), no tapering is needed for this. If you are using cortisol control, such as suppress-c, this should be started on week 3 of PCT and be used for 4-5 weeks (tapering down near the end).
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Hagels.

I will prob run as following, please let me have your comments. I will be using primordial performance oral formastene.

Weeks 1 - 2 SD
Weeks 3 - SD PP
Weeks 4 -6 - PP / Formastene
Weeks 7-9 Formastene / Nolva
Weeks 9 - 11 Nolva and possiby a cort supp.
I will also be using both CEL cycle assist and pct assist and other support supps.

How would you dose the forma on cycle and how would you adjust it going into pct. Will it need to be tapered?.
I was thinking a pretty low dose on cycle - maybe 1.5ml twice a day.
 
I am not sure how the dosages are for PP's version, but I'm assuming they give you a month's supply (or maybe a bit less). I used CEL's formestane which is 30 day supply at 4 pumps a day. So basically I divided that up so it would last 6 weeks (2 weeks in PCT). I ran a 6 week cycle (plus 4 weeks PCT) and started low dose Form on weeks 3 and 4, then did full doses weeks 5,6, and lower dose on weeks 7,8. So basically weeks 3 and 4 combined used same amount of form in week 5. Does this make sense?

I only used Form once, but I did taper it up and down during use. I don't think I will use it again unless I am running compounds that actually convert into E.
 
hagels316 said:
I am not sure how the dosages are for PP's version, but I'm assuming they give you a month's supply (or maybe a bit less). I used CEL's formestane which is 30 day supply at 4 pumps a day. So basically I divided that up so it would last 6 weeks (2 weeks in PCT). I ran a 6 week cycle (plus 4 weeks PCT) and started low dose Form on weeks 3 and 4, then did full doses weeks 5,6, and lower dose on weeks 7,8. So basically weeks 3 and 4 combined used same amount of form in week 5. Does this make sense?

I only used Form once, but I did taper it up and down during use. I don't think I will use it again unless I am running compounds that actually convert into E.
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Thanks Hagels,

I was thinking of doing something simular.
 
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