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Before I F myself...

PCT Opinion

  • Clomid Nolva, nothing on cycle

    Votes: 2 66.7%
  • Use Clomid on cycle

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Use an AI throughout

    Votes: 1 33.3%
  • Use an AI if only signs of gyno.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    3
  • Poll closed .

theapexhunter

New member
So before I F myself up, wanting to make sure everything is in check... My 1st post here, Ive been reasearching AAS for about a year.

History: Lifting on and off last 10 years. 8 years ago went to state for weighlifting at 5'10" for 138lb weightclass. Spent next 6 years still not knowing what I was doing but managed to gain 12lbs and loose all my strength.

Last 2 years Ive been working on eating and doing heavy compounds. Did Starting Strength, and went up in weights alot, also gained alot of fat. Was up to 190 Last 3 months Ive been trying to loose fat while maintaining strength and muscle. I weighed 175 this morning... est 12-15% BF.

Squat 275x5
Bench 205x5
DL 315x5

Sad that they looked almost that high 8 years ago.

Anyways:
*Cycle is basic 500 Test C for 8 weeks.

For PCT I'm still debating on what to do.

I could use just Clomid and Nolva, and only for PCT, or maybe use clomid at low dose for gyno/puffiness.

Or should I save both of those and just an AI and use that low dose for gyno/puffy?

I'm starting to think It's mainly a money debate, with the AI being more expensive and better.
 
For PCT you could just use Clomid with a nice natty test booster along with it.

I wouldnt use an AI right after you get into PCT, maybe wait 2-3 weeks but using an AI on cycle for puffyness/gyno wouldnt hurt.. Something like PES Erase would work extremely well.

Low dose Nolva/Clomid would work too, for PCT that is.
 
bump to 10-12 weeks. Test c doesnt kick it untill around week 5...so your gonna want to run it a little longer anyways.
 
Wow... thanks for all the quick replies.

3clipseGT: Wasnt planning to use AI for anything but on cycle. Any suggestions for a test booster? Never heard of PES Erase. Just tried to do some quick research, I see its a cortisone blocker, and see good reviews... wasnt thinking of adding a cortisone blocker to 1st cycle but now have me thinking.

Anyone else feel like the more the know about AAS the more difficult it becomes?

MikeGfilms: Comment noted and strongly considered. I forgot the math, but would that most likely mean 3 vials?
 
bump to 10-12 weeks. Test c doesnt kick it untill around week 5...so your gonna want to run it a little longer anyways.

I second this. At eight weeks you'll really just start groovin and then halting the cycle. Whereas at 12-16 weeksyou'll get full benefit of the cycle and have time to really hold onto the new mass. If it's a matter of $$ wait and save up, it will be well worth it. Good luck with the cycle.
 
So many decisions...

I guess 1st thing I'm going to see if I can get a dif test... dunno why my mind is set on 8 weeks. Maybe its all this HCg talk for longer cycles.

If not I'll do the Test C 12 weeks (maybe end load @750)... maybe break down and buy HCg

Thanks for the help guys. Hopefully I'll be able to find out what I can get tonight.
 
2 vials for 10 weeks at (500mg/week) but it comes out to 12 weeks, because its still in your system for another 2 weeks after the last injetion. So i would say get 2 test c 10ml vials.

I would also strongly consider an oral kickstart if your funds allow.
 
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