thyroid nourishment
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MAxximal
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Iodine only use salt @ 140mg daily and done!
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Sea Kelp (Ascophyllum nodosum) is a dietary source of bio-available iodine. An additional benefit of Ascophyllum nodosum is its ability to increase glutathione peroxidase activity, an important antioxidant. Human thyrocytes synthesize and secrete extracellular glutathione peroxidase, which translocates into the intracellular space and prevents peroxidative damage of thyrocytes from diffusion of extracellular H202 during stimulation of thyroid-hormone synthesis.
Guggulsterone (Commiphora mukul) has shown an ability to support thyroid function, especially through increased conversion of T4 to T3 in the liver, the principle site of T3 generation.* The effects of guggulsterone may be due to its ability to activate multiple receptors on the nuclear membrane, including thyroid receptors (alpha & beta), retinoic acid receptors, (which pairs with thyroid receptors), and the vitamin D receptor, which also plays a role in thyroid function. Guggulsterone, a component of Commiphora mukul supports healthy cholesterol levels and affects LDL oxidation, an important feature since the oxidation of LDL may have an effect on cardiovascular health, a critical concern for those with sub-optimal thyroid function
Rosemary (Rosmarinus officinalis) provides carnosic acid, a polyphenolic diterpene that at low concentrations increases the expression of vitamin D and retinoid receptors. Retinoid-X-receptors (RXR) undergo heterodimerization with thyroid hormone receptors (TR). The RXR/TR heterodimers have been proposed to be the principle mediators of target gene regulation by T3 hormone. The ability of carnosic acid to also affect retinoic acid receptors may increase its importance as a TR agonist. Rosemary also contributes rosmarinic acid, which has significant antioxidant and anxiolytic properties. An additional constituent, carnosol, may support healthy metalloproteinase-9 activity and healthy NF-kappaB activity, which may be responsible for its support of normal immune system function.
Sage (Salvia officinalis) has long been recognized as a very rich source of the antioxidant carnosic acid which, as noted above, can increase T3 activity through improved RXR/TR heterodimerization. Important features of Salvia officinalis are also its memory supportive properties, including memory retention, more efficient memory retrieval and improved mood and cognitive task performance.
Ashwagandha (Withania somnifera) demonstrated an ability to directly act on the thyroid to raise serum levels of thyroid hormones in animal studies during the late 1990s. Though inconclusive, a case review in late 2005 indicated that Ashwagandha may have the ability to raise serum levels of thyroid hormones in humans. Ashwagandha has also been attributed as having a number of adaptogenic properties including neuroprotective properties.
Coleus (Coleus forskohlii) contains forskolin, a potent activator of the cyclic AMP-generating system in many tissues including the thyroid, and increases T3 & T4 secretion from thyrocytes in a fashion similar to TSH, though independent from TSH. Forskolin is specifically able to mimic the effect of TSH in regard to iodide uptake, organification of iodine, thyroglobulin (TG) production, and promote secretion of T3 & T4, through an increase in the expression of sodium/iodide symporter (NIS) proteins.
Brahmi (Bacopa monniera) exhibited thyroid supportive properties through an increase of T4 serum concentrations in animal studies. Brahmi may have more direct thyroid supportive properties versus an effect on hepatic conversion to T3. Brahmi may also address concerns about neurocognitive function associated with sub-optimal thyroid function. In human studies, Brahmi has been shown to improve many of the higher order cognitive processes, including the ability to significantly improve speed of visual information processing, learning rate, memory consolidation, improve memory retention, enhance retention of new information, and decrease the rate of forgetting of newly acquired information.
Hops (Humulus lupulus) can increase the uptake of iodide into the thyroid gland, a fundamental step in thyroid hormone synthesis, through interactions with sodium-iodide-symporter (NIS) proteins. This observation is quite the opposite of many other plant-derived phenolic secondary metabolites such as isoflavonoids, which can potentially inhibit iodide uptake. Xanthohumol, a chalcone found in Humulus lupulus, plays a critical role in supporting normal blood lipid and glucose metabolism.
This last is in USPlabs OxyElite Pro:
Withania somnifera and Bauhinia purpurea in the regulation of circulating thyroid hormone concentrations in female mice.
Panda S, Kar A.
School of Life Sciences, Devi Ahilya University, Vigyan Bhavan, Indore, India. [email protected]
Abstract
The effects of daily administration of Withania somnifera root extract (1.4 g/kg body wt.) and Bauhinia purpurea bark extract (2.5 mg/kg body wt.) for 20 days on thyroid function in female mice were investigated. While serum triiodothyronine (T3) and thyroxine (T4) concentrations were increased significantly by Bauhinia, Withania could enhance only serum T4 concentration. Both the plant extracts showed an increase in hepatic glucose-6-phosphatase (G-6-Pase) activity and antiperoxidative effects as indicated either by a decrease in hepatic lipid peroxidation (LPO) and/or by an increase in the activity of antioxidant enzyme(s). It appears that these plant extracts are capable of stimulating thyroid function in female mice.
Bauhiniastatins 1-4 from Bauhinia purpurea
Guggulsterone (Commiphora mukul) has shown an ability to support thyroid function, especially through increased conversion of T4 to T3 in the liver, the principle site of T3 generation.* The effects of guggulsterone may be due to its ability to activate multiple receptors on the nuclear membrane, including thyroid receptors (alpha & beta), retinoic acid receptors, (which pairs with thyroid receptors), and the vitamin D receptor, which also plays a role in thyroid function. Guggulsterone, a component of Commiphora mukul supports healthy cholesterol levels and affects LDL oxidation, an important feature since the oxidation of LDL may have an effect on cardiovascular health, a critical concern for those with sub-optimal thyroid function
Rosemary (Rosmarinus officinalis) provides carnosic acid, a polyphenolic diterpene that at low concentrations increases the expression of vitamin D and retinoid receptors. Retinoid-X-receptors (RXR) undergo heterodimerization with thyroid hormone receptors (TR). The RXR/TR heterodimers have been proposed to be the principle mediators of target gene regulation by T3 hormone. The ability of carnosic acid to also affect retinoic acid receptors may increase its importance as a TR agonist. Rosemary also contributes rosmarinic acid, which has significant antioxidant and anxiolytic properties. An additional constituent, carnosol, may support healthy metalloproteinase-9 activity and healthy NF-kappaB activity, which may be responsible for its support of normal immune system function.
Sage (Salvia officinalis) has long been recognized as a very rich source of the antioxidant carnosic acid which, as noted above, can increase T3 activity through improved RXR/TR heterodimerization. Important features of Salvia officinalis are also its memory supportive properties, including memory retention, more efficient memory retrieval and improved mood and cognitive task performance.
Ashwagandha (Withania somnifera) demonstrated an ability to directly act on the thyroid to raise serum levels of thyroid hormones in animal studies during the late 1990s. Though inconclusive, a case review in late 2005 indicated that Ashwagandha may have the ability to raise serum levels of thyroid hormones in humans. Ashwagandha has also been attributed as having a number of adaptogenic properties including neuroprotective properties.
Coleus (Coleus forskohlii) contains forskolin, a potent activator of the cyclic AMP-generating system in many tissues including the thyroid, and increases T3 & T4 secretion from thyrocytes in a fashion similar to TSH, though independent from TSH. Forskolin is specifically able to mimic the effect of TSH in regard to iodide uptake, organification of iodine, thyroglobulin (TG) production, and promote secretion of T3 & T4, through an increase in the expression of sodium/iodide symporter (NIS) proteins.
Brahmi (Bacopa monniera) exhibited thyroid supportive properties through an increase of T4 serum concentrations in animal studies. Brahmi may have more direct thyroid supportive properties versus an effect on hepatic conversion to T3. Brahmi may also address concerns about neurocognitive function associated with sub-optimal thyroid function. In human studies, Brahmi has been shown to improve many of the higher order cognitive processes, including the ability to significantly improve speed of visual information processing, learning rate, memory consolidation, improve memory retention, enhance retention of new information, and decrease the rate of forgetting of newly acquired information.
Hops (Humulus lupulus) can increase the uptake of iodide into the thyroid gland, a fundamental step in thyroid hormone synthesis, through interactions with sodium-iodide-symporter (NIS) proteins. This observation is quite the opposite of many other plant-derived phenolic secondary metabolites such as isoflavonoids, which can potentially inhibit iodide uptake. Xanthohumol, a chalcone found in Humulus lupulus, plays a critical role in supporting normal blood lipid and glucose metabolism.
This last is in USPlabs OxyElite Pro:
Withania somnifera and Bauhinia purpurea in the regulation of circulating thyroid hormone concentrations in female mice.
Panda S, Kar A.
School of Life Sciences, Devi Ahilya University, Vigyan Bhavan, Indore, India. [email protected]
Abstract
The effects of daily administration of Withania somnifera root extract (1.4 g/kg body wt.) and Bauhinia purpurea bark extract (2.5 mg/kg body wt.) for 20 days on thyroid function in female mice were investigated. While serum triiodothyronine (T3) and thyroxine (T4) concentrations were increased significantly by Bauhinia, Withania could enhance only serum T4 concentration. Both the plant extracts showed an increase in hepatic glucose-6-phosphatase (G-6-Pase) activity and antiperoxidative effects as indicated either by a decrease in hepatic lipid peroxidation (LPO) and/or by an increase in the activity of antioxidant enzyme(s). It appears that these plant extracts are capable of stimulating thyroid function in female mice.
Bauhiniastatins 1-4 from Bauhinia purpurea
MAxximal
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Enjoy my Friend!
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Oh, wow that seems really easy and afforda... (glances below) DOHHHHHH!!!!! :cussing:
Ha - just kidding above
Awesome post - thanks so much for this.
MAxximal
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The REAL DEALS of Guggulsterones is:
Nutrex Lipo 6
SAN T3
Syntrax
but Guggulsterones put the thyroids to work 24/7 but works 100% if find the right brand
look for Guggulsterones Z&E Isomers only
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The REAL DEALS of Guggulsterones is:
Nutrex Lipo 6
SAN T3
Syntrax
but Guggulsterones put the thyroids to work 24/7 but works 100% if find the right brand
look for Guggulsterones Z&E Isomers only
So your Top-3 recommendation would be Iodine/Kelp, 7-Keto, and Guggul E/Z?
Would this trio be ideal for Thyroid recovery post-use of Cytomel, or would it also be useful for baseline elevation to burn through adipose tissue as a standalone stack?
MAxximal
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if you wish recover after a T3 cycle you can use Reduce XT this has the two isomers of 7-keto when the body converts this to 7-OH!!!! the you can use another stuff if you like!
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NickNick
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Remember old school! You will support your thyroid, lose weight and get a HUGE boost to your immune system.
12.5mg Lugol's Iodine
Coconut oil Watch the fat come off! look it up.
Selenium
magnesium
Vitamin C
Not too much information is left over because of the corporate strong arming.
ONLY use himalayan salt. Do NOT use iodized salt!
12.5mg Lugol's Iodine
Coconut oil Watch the fat come off! look it up.
Selenium
magnesium
Vitamin C
Not too much information is left over because of the corporate strong arming.
ONLY use himalayan salt. Do NOT use iodized salt!
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Would you mind expanding on the above please?
Gutterpump
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Now's Thyroid Energy is pretty cheap, 9bux a bottle I think, has most of those ingredients listed.
I sometimes buy a bottle of Iodoral, but that's more expensive. Lugol's iodine is not the safest to use longterm. The potassium iodide in Iodoral is the best!
I sometimes buy a bottle of Iodoral, but that's more expensive. Lugol's iodine is not the safest to use longterm. The potassium iodide in Iodoral is the best!
ryanp81
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Foods high in zinc in selenium. Brazil nuts are very high in selenium and about 4-7 a day will cover you real well. Both Zinc and Selenium are imperative for proper thyroid function as well as sexual function, I'm someone who has a slow thyroid and I find these two give me a good boost, it not something your gonna feel persay. Right now I'm using ZMK which will cover are your mineral needs except for calcium, I also use magnesium oil.
I would stay the hell away from guggul, that stuff IMO is nasty and not to mention is cytotoxic, meaning it will kill things at the cellular lever.
I would stay the hell away from guggul, that stuff IMO is nasty and not to mention is cytotoxic, meaning it will kill things at the cellular lever.
NickNick
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It is all about Hypothyroidism (Underactive Thyroid)!
I Like Lugol’s some don’t. 95% of Americans have a low thyroid = do a search on it.
The important thing is that you become educated about Iodine because the Main stream media is not allowed to report on it.
I am 44 years old and lifting more than I ever lifted before. My body fat is down and energy levels are great.
Coconut Oil contains a special kind of saturated fat that is usually healthy to eat, called lauric acid, with a mixture of MCT fats called medium chain triglycerides (which may have from 8 to 12 carbon atoms). While these fats are "saturated" with hydrogen atoms, they often act differently in the human body than other, longer saturated fats. Lauric Acid is a medium-chain triglyceride, with 12 carbon atoms (also called dodecanoic acid). These shorter-length acid molecules, unlike many saturated fats, often actually SPEED UP WEIGHT LOSS. They also may help reduce the risk for heart disease, high blood pressure, and many other health problems. In some studies MCT's have been shown to fight various infections, and help minimize damage to organs from some drug therapies. Replacing other saturated fats in your diet with a small daily amount of coconut oil is part of our Food Guide Football eating plan.
Coconut Oil consists of medium chain fatty acids MCFA, such as lauric acid. These fats contain only about 8, 10 or 12 carbon atoms, instead of the 18 or 20 contained in other vegetable oils such as corn oil, safflower oil, peanut oil, cottonseed oil, etc. As a result of the shorter molecule length, the body does not need to use a relatively scarce CPT enzyme as it does for the longer 18-20 carbon oils. Medium chain triglycerides from coconut oil are digested rapidly in the liver, instead of circulating in the body and being stored as fat tissue deposits.
For cooking, coconut oil has a higher smoke point than does butter. It is also less sensitive to spoiling or becoming rancid, although it should still be handled with care.
I Like Lugol’s some don’t. 95% of Americans have a low thyroid = do a search on it.
The important thing is that you become educated about Iodine because the Main stream media is not allowed to report on it.
I am 44 years old and lifting more than I ever lifted before. My body fat is down and energy levels are great.
Coconut Oil contains a special kind of saturated fat that is usually healthy to eat, called lauric acid, with a mixture of MCT fats called medium chain triglycerides (which may have from 8 to 12 carbon atoms). While these fats are "saturated" with hydrogen atoms, they often act differently in the human body than other, longer saturated fats. Lauric Acid is a medium-chain triglyceride, with 12 carbon atoms (also called dodecanoic acid). These shorter-length acid molecules, unlike many saturated fats, often actually SPEED UP WEIGHT LOSS. They also may help reduce the risk for heart disease, high blood pressure, and many other health problems. In some studies MCT's have been shown to fight various infections, and help minimize damage to organs from some drug therapies. Replacing other saturated fats in your diet with a small daily amount of coconut oil is part of our Food Guide Football eating plan.
Coconut Oil consists of medium chain fatty acids MCFA, such as lauric acid. These fats contain only about 8, 10 or 12 carbon atoms, instead of the 18 or 20 contained in other vegetable oils such as corn oil, safflower oil, peanut oil, cottonseed oil, etc. As a result of the shorter molecule length, the body does not need to use a relatively scarce CPT enzyme as it does for the longer 18-20 carbon oils. Medium chain triglycerides from coconut oil are digested rapidly in the liver, instead of circulating in the body and being stored as fat tissue deposits.
For cooking, coconut oil has a higher smoke point than does butter. It is also less sensitive to spoiling or becoming rancid, although it should still be handled with care.
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Interesting... I have already read studies that have conflicting evidence, and it was done on rodents.
I am only interested in Iodine/Kelp and 7-Keto after the correspondence and research I've done.
I wonder how all of this related to the two scenarios we are most interested in though 1) Post T3 Cycle Normalization (TSH), and 2) Elevation Above/Beyond Natural Levels and T4->T3 conversion to aid in lipolysis in Trained Male Humans
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Seems like Now's (and others) blend 'looks' comprehensive, but is actually very limited in ingredient specific dosages. PM'd by the way.
ryanp81
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If you're gonna go 7-keto go with Prototype * Patrick Arnold * 7-keto spray, the capsules can't even compare to the spray for absorbtion. If you looking for a more natural approach that ties in with DHEA look into some magnesium oil, transdermally it's completely different than oral magnesium since not only do you get better absorbtion with the oil but it cascades in the body into other things such as raising your natural dhea which will aid in adrenal health, thyroid and insulin.
Gutterpump
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Lugol's solution is best for doing iodine saturation / testing. You can saturate your body doing spot testing and then switch over to iodoral for more long term use. The longer it takes for the skin stain to disappear, the more saturated your body is. I would recommend people do a google search on iodine saturation with lugol's solution.
Here's a quick excerpt:
Here's a quick excerpt:
kingdong
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I think you posted a link that got deleted. Could you PM me?
Gutterpump
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Dude it's dead easy to find that stuff. Use google :thumbsup:
NickNick
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Do a key search under: Jcrows
It will come up.
I put a little tyrosine with the 12.5 to increase absorption of the iodine. You have to do some research to get a protocol that you are comfortable with.
There is a LOT of information on there. I combined CoQ10 and Ethyl ester Creatine, Beta Alanine, Tyrosine and have had excellent results.
It will come up.
I put a little tyrosine with the 12.5 to increase absorption of the iodine. You have to do some research to get a protocol that you are comfortable with.
There is a LOT of information on there. I combined CoQ10 and Ethyl ester Creatine, Beta Alanine, Tyrosine and have had excellent results.
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NickNick
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Blue moon will rob your body of testosterone, eat up your B's and minerals. Not to mention a LOT of added calories. I gave up drinking and lot the puffiness with 15 pounds.
Blue moon ****tails are a fun, frozen martini featuring blue curacao, vanilla syrup, and fresh orange juice. Whipping creams adds a hint of creamy texture to the drink.
Yield: 2 cups (serving size: 4 oz.)
Ingredients
1 cup crushed ice
1/4 cup vodka
1/4 cup blue curaçao
1/4 cup whipping cream
2 tablespoons vanilla-flavored syrup (such as Torani)
2 tablespoons fresh orange juice
1 tablespoon Cointreau or other orange-flavored liqueur
Blue moon ****tails are a fun, frozen martini featuring blue curacao, vanilla syrup, and fresh orange juice. Whipping creams adds a hint of creamy texture to the drink.
Yield: 2 cups (serving size: 4 oz.)
Ingredients
1 cup crushed ice
1/4 cup vodka
1/4 cup blue curaçao
1/4 cup whipping cream
2 tablespoons vanilla-flavored syrup (such as Torani)
2 tablespoons fresh orange juice
1 tablespoon Cointreau or other orange-flavored liqueur
kingdong
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What an interesting turn we've taken!
I don't even drink much, but I have to know, did you mean that you lost 15 pounds of puffyness when you stopped drinking?
Gutterpump
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Beer raises estrogen. It's all about stoli + soda..and maybe tequila
kingdong
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I thought it was the alcohol that raised the estrogen.
NickNick
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J Crows 2 ounce bottle is 15.95!
That is not bad considering you will probably start with Two drops (Two eyedropper drops) a day.
It actually cost more to get all the other support supplements needed for better absorption and support for the Lugol's
DO NOT just start taking it without doing research on the protocol.
DO not drink tap water any longer. Do a search about the fluoride in our water. When I started I found a lot of very surprising things of what is taking away motivation and testosterone in our environment.
All the chemicals that are used in our environment and how they affect our body is what I found the most surprising.
It takes some work but it is worth it.
That is not bad considering you will probably start with Two drops (Two eyedropper drops) a day.
It actually cost more to get all the other support supplements needed for better absorption and support for the Lugol's
DO NOT just start taking it without doing research on the protocol.
DO not drink tap water any longer. Do a search about the fluoride in our water. When I started I found a lot of very surprising things of what is taking away motivation and testosterone in our environment.
All the chemicals that are used in our environment and how they affect our body is what I found the most surprising.
It takes some work but it is worth it.
MAxximal
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Gutterpump
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Copper is also the worst culprit from tapwater.
I'm still guilty of drinking tapwater though, filtered.
Reverse Osmosis = the best solution for water filtration.. planning to get a system soon
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I'm very skeptical about a $1,200+ system really offering enough of an advantage to my health to pay for itself, when my refrigerator has two independent filters built in.
Gutterpump
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I found a good one for a few hundred. I wouldn't spend over a grand on it myself.
Simple filters don't take out all the minerals + chems though, but def better than nothing.
Simple filters don't take out all the minerals + chems though, but def better than nothing.
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Oh I'm ALL about investing in my health, and taking the necessary steps toward ensuring my wellness; but unless there are some point-blank definitive studies available that have compared human consumption of filtered water vs. Rev. Osmosis variety and the eventuated effects - I'll save my zeros on my paychecks for now
Gutterpump
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I think it has something to do with the hops in beer, strong phytoestrogen
NickNick
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All I ask is that you do the research for yourselves.
How can a body build muscle, burn fat and produce normal levels of testosterone without proper balance.
Iodine- is utilized by every hormone receptor in the body.
Coconut oil- burns fat, provides energy full or medium-chain triglycerides.
High fructose corn syrup-This chemicalized fructose is sweeter than sugar in an unhealthy way, and is digested differently in a bad way. Research has shown that "high-fructose corn syrup" goes directly to the liver, releasing enzymes that instruct the body to store more fat!
Fluoride- Silent killer! It is in our drinking water, bottled water and toothpaste. It came from aluminum and steel industries. In the process, massive quantities of fluoride that used to be industrial waste. To save large amounts of money, they came up with the idea of dumping this industrial waste into drinking water. Now, instead of having to pay to have the fluoride waste hauled away, they are paid to poison us.
Vitamin D – You need 10,000 iu per day. Look up the Adelanto vitamin d story on UTUBE.
How can a body build muscle, burn fat and produce normal levels of testosterone without proper balance.
Iodine- is utilized by every hormone receptor in the body.
Coconut oil- burns fat, provides energy full or medium-chain triglycerides.
High fructose corn syrup-This chemicalized fructose is sweeter than sugar in an unhealthy way, and is digested differently in a bad way. Research has shown that "high-fructose corn syrup" goes directly to the liver, releasing enzymes that instruct the body to store more fat!
Fluoride- Silent killer! It is in our drinking water, bottled water and toothpaste. It came from aluminum and steel industries. In the process, massive quantities of fluoride that used to be industrial waste. To save large amounts of money, they came up with the idea of dumping this industrial waste into drinking water. Now, instead of having to pay to have the fluoride waste hauled away, they are paid to poison us.
Vitamin D – You need 10,000 iu per day. Look up the Adelanto vitamin d story on UTUBE.