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Supps wrecked my sperm count!

Abaddon75

Abaddon75

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I was using a variety of supplements for a while. I wanted to see how my sperm count was doing since I'm looking to maybe have kids next year. My count was about 30 million and most were dead. The chance of conception was slim to none. The urologist told me to stop taking all supps for three months and come back. I went in today and learned that my count is now 60 million with 60% of sperm alive and well.

Naturally, the doc told me to stay off all the "garbage" and my count should get even better. Great news of course, but at the same time I hate to quit all the stuff, especially since I wanna start another bulk cycle. I guess I'll have to find other ways.

I'm not sure if it was one particular supplement that did it, or a combination. Here's a list of what I was on at the time:

Optimum Nutrition protein powder (3-4 shakes per day)
Purple Wrath
White Flood
Creatine
Multivitamin
Resveratrol
Fish oil
Glucosamine
ZMA
Green tea
Vitamin D
 
My sperm count sux too brooskii lol

It's those damn multi's - cut that **** out LOL

(I am an avid disliker of multivitamins)
 
This makes little sense. went up 30 million cause thats how many other reasons there are for this to have happened.
 
what about all the porn you watch??
















jk glad to see sperm count has improved.
 
I used Axcite Magnum from Athletic Extreme, and that definitely improved my count. Honestly you could blind somebody with that thing, see it from space. It worked as advertised.
 
Abaddon75 said:
I weigh around 195-200lbs. At the time, I was consuming over 300g of protein per day.
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That is quite a bit. Proteinuria has been known to be induced when intaking more than 2G per KG of weight. While the main effect is Kidney damage, the body also can't filter out the toxins produced fast enough from the protein metabolism.

While I can't find any conclusive research on this being a cause, it is also something not to ignore. A whole host of different toxins floating in the blood can be a hindrance to sperm count, especially when one results is increase ammonium concentration.
 
DAdams91982 said:
That is quite a bit. Proteinuria has been known to be induced when intaking more than 2G per KG of weight. While the main effect is Kidney damage, the body also can't filter out the toxins produced fast enough from the protein metabolism.

While I can't find any conclusive research on this being a cause, it is also something not to ignore. A whole host of different toxins floating in the blood can be a hindrance to sperm count, especially when one results is increase ammonium concentration.
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That's interesting. If I go back on the proteins, I'll probably do no more than two shakes per day and try to just eat more regular food. As for the other stuff... I dunno yet.
 
protein powder
Multivitamin
Resveratrol
Fish oil
Glucosamine
ZMA
Green tea
Vitamin D

...doesn't sound like "garbage" to me. I'd be very surprised if these ruined your sperm count.

Just the fact that your doc said you can stay on a multi, but you need to get rid of the other "garbage" would rub me the wrong way. Hell, vit d and zinc are in multis.
 
freefall365 said:
protein powder
Multivitamin
Resveratrol
Fish oil
Glucosamine
ZMA
Green tea
Vitamin D

...doesn't sound like "garbage" to me. I'd be very surprised if these ruined your sperm count.

Just the fact that your doc said you can stay on a multi, but you need to get rid of the other "garbage" would rub me the wrong way. Hell, vit d and zinc are in mulits.
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I'm sure he wasn't referring to the Vitamin D, fish oil, etc. He was talking more about the protein powders, creatine, and that kind of stuff.
 
That's crazy if staples can ruin sperm counts...I never heard of protien or creatine having that neg effect..we need proof not just a dr saying so...if that's the case 98% of us gym rats will have low sperm counts
 
halfhuman said:
That's crazy if staples can ruin sperm counts...I never heard of protien or creatine having that neg effect..we need proof not just a dr saying so...if that's the case 98% of us gym rats will have low sperm counts
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Overdoing anything can have a negative effect.

Taking either one of too much protein and/or creatine can wreak havoc on your kidneys and allow a build up of toxins in the blood.

Everyone is different, so don't think it cannot happen. Especially since he dropped it all and his numbers are better.
 
Did you change any "personal" habits?

I know plenty of people on all of those supplements that can conceive.

I think it varies greatly from individual to individual
 
QUOTE=DAdams91982;2628307]Overdoing anything can have a negative effect.

Taking either one of too much protein and/or creatine can wreak havoc on your kidneys and allow a build up of toxins in the blood.

Everyone is different, so don't think it cannot happen. Especially since he dropped it all and his numbers are better.[/QUOTE]

Yea but what's to much protein? I'm not going to lie I take about 6 scoops daily on average...creatine I understand by to much but never figured protein can be to much or if its to much I thought maybe 20scoops per day or something
 
halfhuman said:
Yea but what's to much protein? I'm not going to lie I take about 6 scoops daily on average...creatine I understand by to much but never figured protein can be to much or if its to much I thought maybe 20scoops per day or something
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it is really all relative to the individual.

I will tell you this, if you take a piss and the toilet starts to foam up, that is a pretty good indication that your kidneys are at least stressed.

The guidelines I have read is to not go beyond 2G/KG. But everyone's mileage will vary.
 
DAdams91982 said:
it is really all relative to the individual.

I will tell you this, if you take a piss and the toilet starts to foam up, that is a pretty good indication that your kidneys are at least stressed.

The guidelines I have read is to not go beyond 2G/KG. But everyone's mileage will vary.
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And from experience normally when your kidneys are stressed from too high protein intake your piss will not only foam but it will smell strong too.
 
DAdams91982 said:
it is really all relative to the individual.

I will tell you this, if you take a piss and the toilet starts to foam up, that is a pretty good indication that your kidneys are at least stressed.

The guidelines I have read is to not go beyond 2G/KG. But everyone's mileage will vary.
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Oh ok good to know...no my pee be clear and sometimes a lil yellow...when u say foaming u mean like a lot of bubbles? I don't see any but will always keep an eye...
 
SouthernCharm said:
And from experience normally when your kidneys are stressed from too high protein intake your piss will not only foam but it will smell strong too.
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Now would it be wise to take say liv 52 or any other liver supp to support it even when not on say roids or ph
 
southpaw23 said:
I used Axcite Magnum from Athletic Extreme, and that definitely improved my count. Honestly you could blind somebody with that thing, see it from space. It worked as advertised.
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This was going to be my recommendation. I would give Magnum a go, they have trial sized bottles for around 10 bucks so you can atleast try it first. From all the reviews we've had so far everyone notices pretty fantastic results!
 
adawg4929 said:
This was going to be my recommendation. I would give Magnum a go, they have trial sized bottles for around 10 bucks so you can atleast try it first. From all the reviews we've had so far everyone notices pretty fantastic results!
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I would not take that expecting your sperm count, motility and mobility to improve.
 
Most multivitamins are useless or borderline harmful. Also, I'd cut any stimulants.

Everything else in there sounds healthy for fertility.

And, most docs don't have a clue.
 
halfhuman said:
SHBG? Please explain what that is...I love green tea...hope shbg is not bad lol
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It's Sex Hormone Binding Globulin. Youve heard of bound test and free test? SHBG binds up testosteone and makes it useless. I don't know how it would affect your sperm count though. Also, I dont think a bottle in the mornig is gonna hurt. I do that and Im a high testosterone guy. I dont know how potent thse pills are though.
 
I'd like to finish one more bulk cycle and then do my best to maintain. I know that when the time comes to try for kids, I'll be off everything again.
 
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