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My GH IGF1 SLIN TRT PCT/Bridge Cycle

Operation “Stay Swole” Day 8

Pumps were different than that of just the IGF it was as if i could feel the blood rushing through my shoulders as i worked them almost felt as though i could here the blood rush bit like putting ur ear to someones stomach only it wasn't rumbling it was blood rush

Dude, thats fuggin freaky!
 
Awesome man. 90 carbs is definetly on the safe side for that amount of IUs. I usually have very large PWO meals, a huge oat grinded shake and a few bowls of cereal. If I were to start using slin one day, would I have to lower my PWO meal size or just work up to pinning enough IUs?
Like maybe work up to 13IUs with roughly 170 carbs/80 protein?
 
Awesome man. 90 carbs is definetly on the safe side for that amount of IUs. I usually have very large PWO meals, a huge oat grinded shake and a few bowls of cereal. If I were to start using slin one day, would I have to lower my PWO meal size or just work up to pinning enough IUs?
Like maybe work up to 13IUs with roughly 170 carbs/80 protein?

Yea ill get fat on that amount rule of thumb is 10g of carbs per iu

but was my first time and i had no idea what to expect even though ive read relentlessly we all react differently and i know that first hand with my exp AAS
750mg Test E 400mg Tren E 100mg Dbol no AI

So now that i feel safe I will lower down those carbs slowly over the course of the next week and up my SLIN and find my sweet spot

All in all good WO and im still alive :)
 
Edwitt, youve definately done your homework. Humalog starst to take affect around 20 minutes, but you could have a blood sugar crash 2 hours later. Also 1 unit is for 25g of carbs. Start reading the labels on food, and make sure you eat enough carbs. Everyone is different so you have to pay close attention to your body. I carry around a smal tube of cake decorating gel, it never spoils. When my sugar is low I will get a cold sweat, and start to shake a little. I've been so low that I will actually lose the ability to speak. Be safe man and keep up the great logs.
 
Edwitt, youve definately done your homework. Humalog starst to take affect around 20 minutes, but you could have a blood sugar crash 2 hours later. Also 1 unit is for 25g of carbs. Start reading the labels on food, and make sure you eat enough carbs. Everyone is different so you have to pay close attention to your body. I carry around a smal tube of cake decorating gel, it never spoils. When my sugar is low I will get a cold sweat, and start to shake a little. I've been so low that I will actually lose the ability to speak. Be safe man and keep up the great logs.

I'm doing it IM, quicker in quicker out

I carry around glucose tabs and a candy bar I used to love as a kid Mars Bar :)
 
Yea ill get fat on that amount rule of thumb is 10g of carbs per iu

but was my first time and i had no idea what to expect even though ive read relentlessly we all react differently and i know that first hand with my exp AAS
750mg Test E 400mg Tren E 100mg Dbol no AI

So now that i feel safe I will lower down those carbs slowly over the course of the next week and up my SLIN and find my sweet spot

All in all good WO and im still alive :)

I've been doing a ton of reading on it but maybe i still have alot more learning go do on it. Usually I try n save alot of my daily calories for pwo. I might even save up to half of my total cals and have them all PWO since nutrient partioning is at it's peak then. So I guess my question is does slin change things? I mean I know going 10g or more of carbs per IU will cause alot of fat from what I read, but does that mean that if I usually eat say 160 carbs post workout, I would eventually be optimal injecting 16 Or 17 IUs of slin PWO? Would I just need to keep it at 10 IUs and Lower my carbs just above hypo? In which case I would have to oviously change my bulking diet since I prefer huge pwo meals.

Does slin have a point of lesser returns so to speak? I'm considering it for my next bulk cycle in maybe 6 months if the muscle gains are worth it. Dispite readng nearly everything on the web about it, I still don't know how much extra mass it can yeild on cycle.
 
I'm doing it IM, quicker in quicker out

I carry around glucose tabs and a candy bar I used to love as a kid Mars Bar :)

My ex- wife was an insulin dependent diabetic, had to pin three times daily and test blood levels six times.., mars bar was her emergency package and glucose gel packs

She had very visible signs of a sugar low, I could generally spot a low before she did! Facial flushing, irritability/irrationality/indecisiveness, shakes... You could always buy a blood glucose monitoring kit, monitors normally deliver analysis within 30secs thesedays I believe - they're also very small and easy to carry

Would ensure you're getting just enough carbs and no more?
 
I've been doing a ton of reading on it but maybe i still have alot more learning go do on it. Usually I try n save alot of my daily calories for pwo. I might even save up to half of my total cals and have them all PWO since nutrient partioning is at it's peak then. So I guess my question is does slin change things? I mean I know going 10g or more of carbs per IU will cause alot of fat from what I read, but does that mean that if I usually eat say 160 carbs post workout, I would eventually be optimal injecting 16 Or 17 IUs of slin PWO? Would I just need to keep it at 10 IUs and Lower my carbs just above hypo? In which case I would have to oviously change my bulking diet since I prefer huge pwo meals.

Does slin have a point of lesser returns so to speak? I'm considering it for my next bulk cycle in maybe 6 months if the muscle gains are worth it. Dispite readng nearly everything on the web about it, I still don't know how much extra mass it can yeild on cycle.
10 units is alot. For 160g carbs 4 or 5 is plenty to start. Keep in mind your body produces insulin constantly, find the balance and dont go past it. If you have a meter, you can check to see if you sugar level gets too low, anything under 80 is too low, once your sugar starts to get low you could go into shock. you need to be about 80 to 120. you could go all the way up to 500 and be fine, but that would never happen because your body would produce more insulin. But if your low it could be possible not to notice until it gets too low.
 
Day 9

REST

6 ius HG before bed last night

IGF 3 times a week this will allow me to run for a longer time without the muscle getting saturated opposed the 4 weeks on 4 off approach which would be more of mass building technique. I am looking for 3-4 months maintenance any gains will be greatly appreciated but not the goal here

shot 7 ius SLIN with breakfast this morning 85g blended carbs


So i increased the Slin and decreased the carbs more in line 10 carbs per IU this is a rule of thumb technique and by no means scientific

I waited 5 minutes, i realise waiting is not necessary as it takes time to ingest food but what im trying to do is get a feel for insulin and the onset of Hypoglycemia, Glucose tabs at the ready, Grape Juice which is NOT FRUCTOSE artificially flavored and full of sugar, fructose is not an ideal carb and my candy bars

Well seems my stim AAS resilience continues, no adverse side effects as described in post # 100

I know that the Insulin is legit i could feel it in the gym and it is doing what is supposed to shuttle those carbs and storing in the form of glycogen this is evident in my weight

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When your body notices that the sugar level is elevated, it is a sign that you have more sugar than you need right now, your body is not burning it and therefore it is accumulating in your blood. So insulin is released to take that sugar and store it. How does it store it? Glycogen? Your body stores very little glycogen at any one time. All the glycogen stored in your liver and muscles would not last you through 1 active day. Once you have filled up your glycogen stores, that sugar is stored as saturated fat, so it is important to get the Insulin carb ratio correct to avoid adding fat

I hope that helps to answer question ZamMan
 
That awnsers some of it. I guess what I'm trying to ask who will have more benefits and who will gain less fat someone who
A: injects 8 IUs/70 carbs
B: injects 16IUs/160 carbs

so is it only the slin to carb ratio that matters, or the total carbs in terms of fat gain? Since I prefer huge PWO meals, if I deceided to use slin on my next bulk do I have to lower my PWO carbs or just eventually up the slin to 15-17ius to keep the carb to slim ratio?

You mentioned when your body mazes out it's glycogen stores it will send the rest to fat, so after a tough workout do you know what takes most people to that point?
 
This $hit is more dangerous than stacking megaplex with megaplex. it can kill you within minutes after inj. Do not ever dose off what somebody else is taking. Everyone reacts differently that is a fact. When you look at carbs on a label subtract fiber and sugar-alcohol. example slice of bread 15 carbs, 2 fiber thats 13 carbs. You should start low dose first so 1unit for 2 slices of bread. Eat first then inject always. Complex carbs may take up to 2 hours to digest. When you eat sugar it is digested quickly. get a meter, rite aid has one with an instant rebate for $4. You should always check you sugar level before injecting. You could read all you want on insilin but it is all about balance. They have doctors who specialize in this and they will work with people for months to find a balance and for a patients liftime be constantly fine tuning it. Edwitt could inject 100units and be fine and zamaman injects 10units and ends up in a diabetic coma an hour later. Be careful man!
 
This $hit is more dangerous than stacking megaplex with megaplex. it can kill you within minutes after inj. Do not ever dose off what somebody else is taking. Everyone reacts differently that is a fact. When you look at carbs on a label subtract fiber and sugar-alcohol. example slice of bread 15 carbs, 2 fiber thats 13 carbs. You should start low dose first so 1unit for 2 slices of bread. Eat first then inject always. Complex carbs may take up to 2 hours to digest. When you eat sugar it is digested quickly. get a meter, rite aid has one with an instant rebate for $4. You should always check you sugar level before injecting. You could read all you want on insilin but it is all about balance. They have doctors who specialize in this and they will work with people for months to find a balance and for a patients liftime be constantly fine tuning it. Edwitt could inject 100units and be fine and zamaman injects 10units and ends up in a diabetic coma an hour later. Be careful man!

This is certainly true. DO NOT RUSH INTO THIS. Read, Read, Read, Prepare, Read, Read....etc. If your still convinced you should do it, start reading again, then you can formulate a decision.
 
10 ius humog IM, 80g carbs fiber adjusted

This where I shud be happy tying have got here unscathed

Have opportunity to do chest this morn with my boy Scott not really chest day but can't forgo this one as he goes back to UK Saturday

160mcg igf total 50 in pecs 30 in tris
 
Great amount of details in here Ed and good to hear you are able to workout with your buddy from the UK. Looking forward to the details from that workout.
 
Operation “Stay Swole” Day 10

Weight 220
waist 32” :)
BP 123/69

Took 4ius HGH last night in the bad shoulder

This morning took all my normal Pre WO supps
Dropped the Clen will hit 1cc of Helios 20 minutes prior to any cardios sessions

50mg ED and Test Cyp 200mg EW
ASGT 2 scoops
PW 1 1/2 scoops
NO Infuse
4 Ibuprofen

Pre Wo Drink 80g Carbs 60g protein

IGF1 lr3 45 mins pre WO
50mcg each pec,
30mcg tris

INSULIN - Humalog

10ius 80g blended carbs felt fine with breakfast/Pre Wo

Awsome chest WO more on that

Post WO 10ius 80g Blended Carbs - about 40 minutes after WO 5 mins from home started to feel a bit clammy and sight started to become a bit impaired - no ****ing around took table spoon of honey 1/8 cup of raisins 1/2 cup of oats threw 9oz steak in the pan, everything back to normal :)

[BOLD]Chest/Tris[BOLD]

Well Scott definitely does things different to me, i wont be changing my WO’s as im a big believer is sticking with what has been working for you/me, when i plateau ill switch thing up. That being said i still love to do somebody elses routine from time to time especially someone far more knowledgeable than myself

So it was super-set madness no BB flat bench and none of my 3-4 min power-lifting breaks 30-90 seconds, mostly 30

Dumb Bells and Cables- Cant really remember the weights but was DB to start with flat then incline than cables from all angles with a set of incline cable flies to finish mixed in with rope pull downs V Bar pull downs and one arm cable pull downs across the body. In and out in 50 minutes but felt like 2 hours of torture. Really nice amount of striations popping up all across my upper arms,chest,back and shoulders

So weighed in at 220lb this morn which is great i was at 215 on 100mg Dbol and ive gotta reckon the Dbol had me carrying 3-4lbs of water/glycogen weight. So the insulin has more than replaced that, glycogen stores are full :) 223lb after post meal, steak and oats/honey/raisins
 
Wow that's some weight increase for sure! Were you still cutting?

Havnt changed my diet at all,

I wouldnt say ive ever been cutting as ive kept my diet and cals constant throughout. I have just manipulated things with stims and cardio to recomp YES cutting NO... I want to maintain my muscle mass before the next cycle and stay at or around the 10% bf range.... Also the weather is about to turn so no need to get ripped maintenance for 3 months then bulk cycle


Since starting the Slin i dropped the stims as i didnt want to be confusing the stim effects as they can be similar to those of Hypoglycemia... Now that i have a good feel for the SLIN im gonna be using intermittently

Also i use 1cc of Helios 20mins prior to any cardio session which is 3 x EW
 
Operation “Stay Swole” Day 7

Weight 215
waist 32” :)
BP 123/69

Took 6ius HGH last night in the bad shoulder

This morning took all my normal Pre WO supps
Dropped the Clen will hit 1cc of Helios 20 minutes prior to any cardios sessions

100mg Dbol
ASGT 2 scoops
PW 1 1/2 scoops
NO Infuse
4 Ibuprofen

Pre Wo Drink 90g Carbs 60g protein

IGF1 lr3 45mins pre WO
50mcg each upper pec,
10mcg in tears drops of tri

So moving the inject sites up and down the relevant muscles

CHEST ALL MIGHTY CHEST
Bit more focus on upper chest but completed my heavy sets on the flat bench so stregnth still there

135 x 12
225 x 8
275 x 5
315 x 5
365 x 5
365 x 5
365 x 6 prob could have gotten 7 no spotter
315 x 10
225 x 25 - 11 wanted to leave some gas for incline as i pinned my uppers pecs/B]

Incline bench
225 x 12
225 x 12
245 x 10
275 x 8 Same as last, 2 off of my best
225 x 10
225 x 8
205 x 7
185 x 10
Cables to finish

Tris
3 sets of 3
Performed in superset fashion

Used Slin Shot 3 caps 15 mins later
Post WO drink with aminos creatine etc
110g Carbs 60 fast acting 50 oats, 50g Protein

Gonna add my Humalog in at some point this week :)

60 minutes later 9oz Fresh Tuna 1 cup of oats


u said 100 mgs of dbol, u meant 10 right? Cause if it 100 BOY U CRAZY! AND I LOVE IT!
 
Nope 100mg yum yum

:saroll::cheers::saroll:

Dropped the AAS except the Test Cyp TRT dose 200mg EW since starting up the SLIN

That's the best pre workout ever. Lol my next cycle I think I'm gonna pulse something real high preworkout also. I know 20mg epi gave me a boost so I bet 50 Or 60 would be awesome. =]
 
That's the best pre workout ever. Lol my next cycle I think I'm gonna pulse something real high preworkout also. I know 20mg epi gave me a boost so I bet 50 Or 60 would be awesome. =]

Dbol is the best pre WO ever

Towards the end of my cycle my receptors were saturated so no gains but 100mg Dbol gave me the glycogen/water retention that i wanted, i have low estro sensitivity so no bloat and awesome aggression in the gym :):cool3:
 
This $hit is more dangerous than stacking megaplex with megaplex. it can kill you within minutes after inj. Do not ever dose off what somebody else is taking. Everyone reacts differently that is a fact. When you look at carbs on a label subtract fiber and sugar-alcohol. example slice of bread 15 carbs, 2 fiber thats 13 carbs. You should start low dose first so 1unit for 2 slices of bread. Eat first then inject always. Complex carbs may take up to 2 hours to digest. When you eat sugar it is digested quickly. get a meter, rite aid has one with an instant rebate for $4. You should always check you sugar level before injecting. You could read all you want on insilin but it is all about balance. They have doctors who specialize in this and they will work with people for months to find a balance and for a patients liftime be constantly fine tuning it. Edwitt could inject 100units and be fine and zamaman injects 10units and ends up in a diabetic coma an hour later. Be careful man!

Excellent post i have the Wallgreens monitor free with mail in rebate and i made sugar packs with 30g Dominos sugar my Mars Bars and raisins
 
Blury vision is from insulin. Its actually a symptom of diabetes. When your kidneys are stressed you will start flushing more fluid out, your body is dehydrated and your eyesight actually can get really bad, usually accompanied with a feeling of exhaustion. When you first start taking insulin your vision can get so bad you can barely make out the shape of objects, your legally blind and it can last weeks. Are you taking humalog R, and is it a vial or flexpen?
 
Subbed for the ensuing slaughter!!! :firedevil:

You may enjoy 200 mg. of Cyp each week more than you think mate. I started my self-prescribed TRT at that dose and felt it. I upped it to 300 mgs. according to my own recommendations. :rofl:

I'm my favorite doctor.

You actually enjoy being on TRT, i almost went on it. But my system recovered very easily with Clomid (and i was on AAS for a year:nono2:)

But i did recover fine and i just use peptides for LBM and maintenance, and GHRP-6 seems very nice for fat burning.

Anyways, hey if it works for you, then go for it.
 
I agree only a fool would dose based on someone elses results. But the concepts are still te same and all questions are just hypothetical to gain knowledge. It would be dumb and dangerous to day he's taking this so I can too.
 
Blury vision is from insulin. Its actually a symptom of diabetes. When your kidneys are stressed you will start flushing more fluid out, your body is dehydrated and your eyesight actually can get really bad, usually accompanied with a feeling of exhaustion. When you first start taking insulin your vision can get so bad you can barely make out the shape of objects, your legally blind and it can last weeks. Are you taking humalog R, and is it a vial or flexpen?

Humalog R 10ml vials

You actually enjoy being on TRT, i almost went on it. But my system recovered very easily with Clomid (and i was on AAS for a year:nono2:)

But i did recover fine and i just use peptides for LBM and maintenance, and GHRP-6 seems very nice for fat burning.

Anyways, hey if it works for you, then go for it.

Personally, Yes love it, peptides are good to but we all react deifferently just because you bounced back quickly doesnt mean the nexy guy will, a year will wreak havoc on most peoples hormones, you are very lucky... Genetics ultimately will be the determining factor. Personally, i would have a hard time bouncing back after a 30 day run with some of the more harsh orals

My libido and Total test levels were low regardless so for me TRT has been a new lease of life, actually its saved my marriage :)

:burger:
 
REST - 45 mins cardio

6ius HGH last night

No IGF on rest day

10ius Humalog 75g blended carbs
1/2 cup of oats 1/4 cups raisins 16g Dominos Sugar
 
REST

6ius HGH last night

No IGF on rest day

10ius Humalog 75g blended carbs
1/2 cup of oats 1/4 cups raisins 16g Dominos Sugar

I would love to run Insulin, especially with the GHRP-6 and IGF. Just too god damn scared to haha.

Ive read much about it, I can get humalog like that, but im just scared to DEATH

Haha literally.
 
Legs then cardio

Just pinned 30mcg igf in calves and having trouble walking right now, this should be fun :)
 
Lol Yeah acedic acid isnt fun.

Muscles definitely acclimated to it, first time is agony then after that all good fun :) First time calves :zx11pissed:

Was great WO nonetheless 60 minutes then pinned some gears slammed a shake and 45 minutes spinning.... Then lots more food
 
Yesterday REST - 45mins cardio with 1cc Heliios

Operation “Stay Swole” Day 12

Weight 219
waist 32” :)
BP 118/63

Took 4ius HGH last night in the bad shoulder

This morning took all my normal Pre WO supps
Dropped the Clen will hit 1cc of Helios 20 minutes prior to any cardios sessions

50mg ED and Test Cyp 200mg EW
ASGT 2 scoops
PW 1 1/2 scoops
NO Infuse
4 Ibuprofen

7am Slin 10ius
Pre Wo Drink 75g Carbs 55g protein
oats, sugar, raisins, creatine and aminos

730am
IGF1 lr3
30mcg each calf

8am
55 minutes of legs

8.55am
10ius 80g blended carbs (sugar,oats,banana)
1cc Helios

9am
45 minutes of spinning

Legs was exact same routine as my previous leg session which is posted above, i felt really strong today. I could have easily got more reps or added weight but i decoded to leave something in the tank for 45 minutes cardio session.

Things are going much better than i had envsioned thankfully, enjoying each WO and feel as strong as ever, infact next chest session im gonna add some weight to my 3 x heavy sets

[BOLD]Here to help via PM or post here any questions, criticisms or concerns[/BOLD]
 
Ed, I just noticed that you take Ibuprofin pre w/o, what is the purpose of this? From what I understand, taking anti inflammatory meds is counter productive to muscle growth. I try to minimize my use of them because of this
 
Ed, I just noticed that you take Ibuprofin pre w/o, what is the purpose of this? From what I understand, taking anti inflammatory meds is counter productive to muscle growth. I try to minimize my use of them because of this

Oops didnt take today legs,

but i do take them both chest and shoulder day, keeps the inflammation down in my shoulder. I will drop as soon as i feel i can, it is very noticeable when i forget :(

Was not aware of that tho so good to know and another good post and that why runnng a log can be so beneficial, smart guys like Tim

Thanks
 
Oops didnt take today legs,

but i do take them both chest and shoulder day, keeps the inflammation down in my shoulder. I will drop as soon as i feel i can, it is very noticeable when i forget :(

Was not aware of that tho so good to know and another good post and that why runnng a log can be so beneficial, smart guys like Tim

Thanks

No problem man, if you feel you really need it on those days just keep doing what you have been doing. You have been progressing while doing it anyways
 
Operation “Stay Swole” Day 12

Weight 219
waist 32” :)
BP 118/63

Took 6ius HGH last night in the bad shoulder

This morning took all my normal Pre WO supps
1cc of Helios 20 minutes prior to any cardio sessions

50mg ED and Test Cyp 200mg EW
WO days only
ASGT 2 scoops
PW 1 1/2 scoops
NO Infuse
4 Ibuprofen (chest/shoulder days only)

550am Slin 12ius
Pre Wo Drink 80g Carbs 55g protein
oats, sugar, raisins, milk, creatine and aminos, cissus

Gonna take a days rest, i feel like i battered my upper body 5 days straight last week and shoulder a tad tweaked... Saturday was off, Sunday was legs so Monday is gonna be off :(

Ill be getting a cardio session in along with a good ab WO

Gotta say so far i am loving this...... No sides from anything, pumps are great strength is right at highs gonna actually add some weight this week :) shoulder continues to improve, Glycogen levels are full (this is evident in my weight) libido is as strong as ever :)

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[BOLD]Here to help via PM or post here any questions, criticisms or concerns[/BOLD]
 
Time to get down to my 4 day split not happy about it :(

But gotta do as ordered so ill just be turning up the intensity and adding weigh coz i feel strong and wanna smash some sh!t around tomorrow


chest,tris

back,
rest
legs
shoulders, biceps.
rest
rest
 
hows hgh on your shoulder, I was in a head on collision on my motorcycle 10 years ago, was debating hgh to help strengthen it. read that hgh can repair joints. my right shoulder doesnt hurt when I lift but gets really sore after I surf.
 
hows hgh on your shoulder, I was in a head on collision on my motorcycle 10 years ago, was debating hgh to help strengthen it. read that hgh can repair joints. my right shoulder doesnt hurt when I lift but gets really sore after I surf.

Definitely vastly improved

It will definitely aid in the repair of tendons and ligaments but its a bit to early for to be reaping the benefits of new cell growth

Its not cheap and need to be run for a minimum of 3 months, I will bridge it right into my next AAS cycle for a minimum of 6 months total. Im expecting my shoulder to be 100% within the first 3 months and have a totally different protocol for using in a bulk cycle :saroll:

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My wife is cool with me running hgh so Im seriously considering it. Hope this cycle works for you bro, following this log closely. Kill it!
 
My wife is cool with me running hgh so Im seriously considering it. Hope this cycle works for you bro, following this log closely. Kill it!

Very important that you trust your source

HGH works and there is a lot of science behind it and many studies but obtaining authentic HGH is the key if you get fake gear its not evident in a few weeks like test or orals and its not few $ out the window it $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

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Hey look who it is!, it's HulkWitt! :cheers:

LOL...... They are making a new Hulk TV series :)

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Total annihilation prob my best lift ever although def right back at my PR's at worst and with shoulder at 95%

Thats was fugging awsome off to chow some food back with WO details later :)


From down and out

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FTFW
 
Some inspiration for ya edwitt.

This is incredible.........

 
I have never seen that much weight be made to look like a warm up... my god that was nuts. Reps TG!
 
Well here it is yesterday WO PR's all over the place

Chest/Tris


135 x 12
225 x 8
275 x 5
315 x 5
375 x 5 + 10lbB]
365 x 5
365 x 6 same
315 x 10
225 x 30-i had more but wanted to nail that last incline

Incline bench
225 x 12
225 x 12
245 x 10
275 x 10 :) finally got 10
Light Cables to finish

Tris
3 sets of 3
Performed in superset fashion

Felt awesome and and had a good feeling about this lift love the the fact that i added 10lb to my heavy set on flat bench will try 3 sets of 5 @ 375 next time and finally nailing 275 x 10 at the very end was big move

Id like to see how many i can do @ 225 if starting out fresh (maybe 40-45) Id also like to start out on the incline soon with 315 see how many i can get fresh
 
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