UnrealMachine
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yeah dude honestly i don't know. Hormones are complicated! If you get less pleasure from sex then you'll just have to compensate with MORE of it lol.
Priming for the Summer (Test-E/Havoc)
- Thread starter monsterbox
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monsterbox
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haha, the pleasure is now switched from finishing, to watching the girls scream for 2 hrs
I'm going to try some vitex.
GeekPoop
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I'd get tired, hungry, and have to pee lol nj:hump:haha, the pleasure is now switched from finishing, to watching the girls scream for 2 hrs
I'm going to try some vitex.
monsterbox
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Yea, thats what sucks about this cycle. I need to start pounding protein shakes in the middle of doggystyle.
I've got 2 stage 5 clingers right now, because of this cycle.
GeekPoop
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LOL, got a stage 5 clinger here. Good flick man
UnrealMachine
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ahh stage 5, VIRGIN clinger aha yes good movie
i think i get more pleasure from the screams than from finishing anyway... I dunno about 2 hours though i did 2 hours of on-cycle sex once and I straight up destroyed the bed... I woke up, dazed, confused, dehydrated, and the bed was still somewhere between damp and wet. Surprisingly the girl didn't say anything about it haha.
lol at downing protein during doggy after a while ud definitely need some, somehow reminds me of patrick bateman flexing in the mirror in American Psycho. I would totally do that if i had a bedside mirror. Haha.
i think i get more pleasure from the screams than from finishing anyway... I dunno about 2 hours though i did 2 hours of on-cycle sex once and I straight up destroyed the bed... I woke up, dazed, confused, dehydrated, and the bed was still somewhere between damp and wet. Surprisingly the girl didn't say anything about it haha.
lol at downing protein during doggy after a while ud definitely need some, somehow reminds me of patrick bateman flexing in the mirror in American Psycho. I would totally do that if i had a bedside mirror. Haha.
monsterbox
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f*cking best movie in the world. REPS!
Time to get my chainsaw out and run around naked
I dont' know why, but my favorite line is... "i'm sorry, I have to return some video tapes"
monsterbox
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Update:estrogen control
So took .33mg of arimidex last night. I was noticing the tightness, little wrestlessness/axniety, and stupid pumps. Today once again, feel like a deflated and feel normal again. Can't decide what to stick with...the higher e2 or not. Without E2 control, I feel "on-cycle"!
onder: Guess i'm really sensitive to arimdex. I'm going to keep taking .25mg consistent E3D from here on. I love the E2 bloat lol. I should totally throw in some dbol on the last weeks of this cycle!
So took .33mg of arimidex last night. I was noticing the tightness, little wrestlessness/axniety, and stupid pumps. Today once again, feel like a deflated and feel normal again. Can't decide what to stick with...the higher e2 or not. Without E2 control, I feel "on-cycle"!
onder: Guess i'm really sensitive to arimdex. I'm going to keep taking .25mg consistent E3D from here on. I love the E2 bloat lol. I should totally throw in some dbol on the last weeks of this cycle!
monsterbox
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rando, I wish it was the ex. We'll see what happens at the end of the summer when she returns. I spoke with her on the phone "as friends" and she was horny as crap talking about how she wants to hook up when she gets back... I'm going to definitely not going to fall into that trap.
HumpTheCook
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haha bitches. all the same. tell her i dont need your pu$$y, im on my own d!ck
GeekPoop
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they always call you at the strangest times, I didnt understand why people said all women were skanks until this year... not complaining just:hump:
UnrealMachine
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Big L says chicks are like boomerangs no matter how hard you throw them they always come back
nosnmiveins
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man i got one of those from f ucking HIGH SCHOOL. i dated her my senior year and havent seen her in over 5 years. i went off to school and dumped her for a girl i met the 2nd week at school, but she texts me allllllllllll the time and wants me to visit her.....she lives about 1000 miles away (serious). but man id f ucking destroy her if i saw her...shes 5'3 maybe 120 and solid (cheerleader type of course) and ive put on 50+lbs since shes last seen me
felost
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Hey monsterbox!
Peace ?!
SO, i want to know what do you are thinking about enantahe?!
Results, side effects.....some tips...
Because i'm thinking about try Enantathe + P.P. Turinabol Liqua Vade OR Oxandrolone (anavar).
my cycle will be
1-10 600mg Enant.
6-11 75mg Turinabol
9-11 1500ui HCG/week
Letrozol during the cycle (i have some problems with aromatization.......-_-)
PCT will be:
-Tamoxifen citrate (40/40/20/20/10)
-Novedex xt
-PCT assist by CEL (maybe)
what do you think brow !?
Peace ?!
SO, i want to know what do you are thinking about enantahe?!
Results, side effects.....some tips...
Because i'm thinking about try Enantathe + P.P. Turinabol Liqua Vade OR Oxandrolone (anavar).
my cycle will be
1-10 600mg Enant.
6-11 75mg Turinabol
9-11 1500ui HCG/week
Letrozol during the cycle (i have some problems with aromatization.......-_-)
PCT will be:
-Tamoxifen citrate (40/40/20/20/10)
-Novedex xt
-PCT assist by CEL (maybe)
what do you think brow !?
monsterbox
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Well, so far, the test-e is working, but its not like I expected. My libido is great, and mood/sleep/energy is improved. I have some acne. However, I'm not jaw dropping strong yet. I'm also on havoc, and in my 4th week, so it could very well be the effects from havoc, and not much from the test at all.
Everyone is telling me I look bigger. Pics show that I'm alot bigger. My back is wider, arms are thicker, I'm alot leaner, and my weight is up to 202.5lbs, after dropping to 197.5. At least, something is going on.
I would say so far, the only advantage of test, to my experiences with havoc, is that test can be run for 12 weeks...and the longevity being your true advantage, not the pure power from test itself. Its only week 4 however, so things might get stronger.
Your cycle looks good, but I wouldn't waste my time with that OTC stuff. Get some real t-bol.
monsterbox
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over the counter, as in legal, non-prescribed.
Yea, this is the middle of the 4th week. I'm starting to feel fuller.
GnastyMcNasty
Member
so that igf-1 is giving you insane pumps bro?? what can you distinguish from being the test and what effects are you getting that you think are the igf-1??
monsterbox
Well-known member
thats problem, I can't distinguish anything. All I know, is everything is working.
monsterbox
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I think it has a little. Ive just noticed I feel more pumped, so I don't have as much pain, if that makes any sense.
Strength was WAY WAY up today. Dangerously high. Really abnormal considering my small amount of calories. I'm leaning out like crazy so far, and my muscles are getting larger. Scale reads 202lbs, so I'm experiencing and insane recomp.
Shoulders went from 155 military press to 185 today for reps of 12. And arnold presses from 50lbs to 60lbs for reps of 12. Lateral raises from 25lbs to 35lbs!
cumkwakka
Member
Hello everyone,
Its cycle time again.
This time I'm coming back real deal. Right now I'm 1 month out from the cycle. All comments welcome.
Routine:
Eating 3400cals, (1000 below maint)
Switched to all Low-GI, Oatmeal, wheatwraps, wheat bread.
300g Protein
Cardio 2x week (45mins) running
Weight Training M-T-Th-F (10-12rep range, light workouts)
Stats:
5' 7'', 200lbs, 12%???
Arms - Easily 16+
Chest - I want to say 47...Ill get exact measurements later..
Supplements:
Testosterone Replacement Therapy (gel based, HCG 100IU/daily)
Arimidex .125mg 2x/week as needed
Creatine 5g/day
Cissus/Glucosamine
Recent Blood Test:
TT - 1100ng/dl
Free - double range
E2 - teens
SHBG - 13.5 (low
Goal:
220lbs, 11%, 17.5inch arms
The Cycle:
1-12 Testosterone Enanthate 400-500mg/wk
1-6 Primaforce Havoc 40-50mg, or weeks 6-12 (which one?)
Arimidex as needed
HCG 100iu/daily
PCT:
None, get back on T-gel :006:
Plan to take an off week right before cycle..trying to heal spranged wrist, and minor forearm splints from curling too much.
Cycle starts June 3rd.
Here what we are working with;
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I'm currently priming my body, lower carbs, so that Ill be in the most anabolic state possible when I begin. Cals will go back up to 4500+
VIN DIESEL EAT YOUR HEART OUT!!!
monsterbox
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Day 34
Finishing up on havoc. I'm going to carry it out to 42 days, 6 weeks total.
Weight is at 203lbs. Ive had a pretty solid recomp. Arms are right at 17inches un-pumped.
Test should be fully kicked in, I'm going to start bulking again, and eating huge and try to get up to 210+ for the next 6-7 weeks.
BTW, just found out, this guy, Curt Dennis Jr. is a well-known massive powerlifter. He works with security with me.
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Biggest person I will ever meet in my entire life. Hes 6 foot, 340lbs, 18% BF.
24 inch arms. Benches 800 with a shirt, squats over 1000+ and deadlifts around 900. Hes over 2500lbs total club.
Guy is bigger than ronnie coleman. Way bigger. Absolutely jaw droppingly massive.
Finishing up on havoc. I'm going to carry it out to 42 days, 6 weeks total.
Weight is at 203lbs. Ive had a pretty solid recomp. Arms are right at 17inches un-pumped.
Test should be fully kicked in, I'm going to start bulking again, and eating huge and try to get up to 210+ for the next 6-7 weeks.
BTW, just found out, this guy, Curt Dennis Jr. is a well-known massive powerlifter. He works with security with me.
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Biggest person I will ever meet in my entire life. Hes 6 foot, 340lbs, 18% BF.
24 inch arms. Benches 800 with a shirt, squats over 1000+ and deadlifts around 900. Hes over 2500lbs total club.
Guy is bigger than ronnie coleman. Way bigger. Absolutely jaw droppingly massive.
UnrealMachine
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I thought you were going to say that you tanned up a bit and grew a beard and that the test has got you massive
Dude that guy is ridiculously big. His arms are bigger than most guys quads! And he looks like less than 18% bodyfat too i mean his gut doesn't seem too bad.
Dude that guy is ridiculously big. His arms are bigger than most guys quads! And he looks like less than 18% bodyfat too i mean his gut doesn't seem too bad.
GnastyMcNasty
Member
traps are lookin good bro.
monsterbox
Well-known member
we work security together at a club.... Of course he can kick my ass he weighs 140lbs more than me. Hes one of THE most muscular men in the world just about lol. It would be like getting in a fight with a tree...you can't win. Even with a gun.
cumkwakka
Member
lol
damn that dude with 340 lbs is even like bob sapp right?
i mean i heard bob sapp is 170 kilos of pure muscle thats just crazy
next time you see him please do a bout of arm wrestling for me and report back
thanks in advance!
bigzach1234
Active member
bro seriously.. not trying to start an argument.. but thats not the ideal body for a fighter.. weight doesnt mean **** when ur slow and cant throw a punch and someone tags u 5 times on the chin before u can even bring an arm up to block or try to hit u.. if he got a hold of u thatd be trouble.. but u should never think just cauzse someone looks big an intimidating that theyd take u in a fight... **** maybe its cause im from jersey and saw big roided out dudes get smoked in fights without even getting a punch in.. but that guyd def does not exactly have the quick streamlined fighter type body.. maybe im wrong and hes a trained killer.. i just hate when i see ppl who thank just cause someone is huge and muscular that they would stand a chance against someone half there size.. sometimes u gotta fight man.. its not good to get into the habit of psyching urself out when looking at someone before a fight.. cause u just beat yourself mentally
especially with big roided out untrained fighters.. u got remember circle away from that huge right haymaker.. cause 85% of the time the first punch thrown is a wild right haymaker.. knowing this has helped me alot.. bigger they r.. usually the worse chin they have.. and the harder they fall.. big guys tend to come in swinging wildy, telegraphing there punches..
i dont know why i made this post.. i think ive just seen way to many preconceived notions about fighting lately.. where ppl just assume.. that someone who is huge and a power puncher is a ****ing world beater
Dragon13
Active member
Man, I hate when I see this argument about big guys being "slow" and how size means nothing in a fight. Wrong and WRONG.
Slow is relative in a fight. Yeah, he may not run a 4.4 40, and he may tire quicker, but for ****'s sake why do you think his punches will be so inordinately slow that "someone tags u 5 times on the chin before u can even bring an arm up to block or try to hit u"??? It's asinine. As if being muscular slows one down in quick, explosive movements. Are you serious?? It's actually the exact opposite.
The fact is, in a street fight, everything else being more or less equal (by which I mean experience, coordination, athletic ability, etc), if 1 guy has a significant size advantage over his opponent, he will win most of the time.
The rest of your statement is just random generalizations and opinions that have no basis in fact.
monsterbox
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Day 48
I've been so busy and things have been running together. i dropped the havoc at day 40, 8 days ago. I've been on test-e at 500mg/wk. I should be in my 7th week starting saturday. I've been eating maitenence with extra protein, in attempt to loose some more fat and get stronger/denser.
I'm staying at 204 right now consistently. Strength is up, but its not increasing. I was benching 205x10 for 3 sets before the cycle, i'm now doing that with 225.
However, despite everything, I feel like after I dropped the havoc, I've had a major loss of momentum. I almost want to say this test-e is watered down. I don't really feel much of anything anymore. Feels like I'm just recovering a bit faster, but no crazy pumps/veins anymore, no jacked feeeling all day, and libido has fallen back to normal. I've noticed now that hte IGF pumps me for a few hours right after the shot. But it just doesn't feel like i'm "on" anymore. I've haven't been using much E control at all, and I'm not bloated whatsoever or have any acne anymore. So I think its really watered down, seriously.
On top of this, my supplier burned me, and I will not be recieving my second vial. I will be running out at week 8! I was planning on running 15 weeks. My only option in the next 2 weeks is Pharm grade Sus250. How tricky would it be to switch to 150mg of Sus250 3x week for the next 8 weeks? I can either quit the cycle, or switch to Sus250. Its is 100% quality stuff and I would have 20ml of it.
I'm irritated because I just don't feel or see the results that would make me believe I could reach my goal of 215lbs 10% right now. I'm at 204 10%, and I think its from the havoc alone, this test isn't anything to write home about. Maybe 500mg of test is just super overrated.
I'v tried bumping up my calories/carbs/protein to 500-1000 above maintence and eating 2g protein/lb of LBM. Not much of a difference except carb bloat and water.
I've been so busy and things have been running together. i dropped the havoc at day 40, 8 days ago. I've been on test-e at 500mg/wk. I should be in my 7th week starting saturday. I've been eating maitenence with extra protein, in attempt to loose some more fat and get stronger/denser.
I'm staying at 204 right now consistently. Strength is up, but its not increasing. I was benching 205x10 for 3 sets before the cycle, i'm now doing that with 225.
However, despite everything, I feel like after I dropped the havoc, I've had a major loss of momentum. I almost want to say this test-e is watered down. I don't really feel much of anything anymore. Feels like I'm just recovering a bit faster, but no crazy pumps/veins anymore, no jacked feeeling all day, and libido has fallen back to normal. I've noticed now that hte IGF pumps me for a few hours right after the shot. But it just doesn't feel like i'm "on" anymore. I've haven't been using much E control at all, and I'm not bloated whatsoever or have any acne anymore. So I think its really watered down, seriously.
On top of this, my supplier burned me, and I will not be recieving my second vial. I will be running out at week 8! I was planning on running 15 weeks. My only option in the next 2 weeks is Pharm grade Sus250. How tricky would it be to switch to 150mg of Sus250 3x week for the next 8 weeks? I can either quit the cycle, or switch to Sus250. Its is 100% quality stuff and I would have 20ml of it.
I'm irritated because I just don't feel or see the results that would make me believe I could reach my goal of 215lbs 10% right now. I'm at 204 10%, and I think its from the havoc alone, this test isn't anything to write home about. Maybe 500mg of test is just super overrated.
I'v tried bumping up my calories/carbs/protein to 500-1000 above maintence and eating 2g protein/lb of LBM. Not much of a difference except carb bloat and water.
monsterbox
Well-known member
where is that?
And how much Sus250 is comparable to 500mg/test-E? I'm not too keen on keeping this cycle going forver, but I really want to hit something pharm grade, to see if my test-e was legit. I have this feeling that Ill hit the sus250 for a few weeks and realize all this test-e was a hoax lol.
timmmah
Active member
Too bad about the supplier issue dude, I feel for ya. However, do what you gotta do with the sust if that's your only option, it won't be noticeable test is test. I once started a cycle with sust at 500 mg a week for the first five weeks and noticed no change when I switched to Enanthate.
You may want to think about upping the test a little though, the lack of epistane now is giving you lower levels of test. Next cycle start with less and finish with more!
monsterbox
Well-known member
well I kicked off with havoc. Havoc has always made me horny as crap. I think it was the havoc making me rage. All the gains were coming from the havoc. that Stuff is like my superhero cape and always has been. Now that I came off the havoc, I expected the test to pick up the slack and keep me moving forward. Nothing, I feel like i'm going backwards. Strength/endurance/enrgy/pumps are falling like a rock.
So...I think its legit, but it Think tis severely underdosed. I get no injection pain at all whatsoever anymore. I mean maybe its working, and Im just "less" juiced and noticing the drop.
monsterbox
Well-known member
Should i kick up to 750mg of Sus/week? I know test is test, but isn't it going to take like a full month for the sus to kick in? Like Ill experience the quick esters but the full effect will take a while or something like that?
UnrealMachine
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monsterbox... that's how test works on me... I hope for your sake it is underdosed but I just don't expect to make gains off of test anymore. HOWEVER it should be making you horny, that's one of the only ways I can tell test is working... I also seem to get minor increase in muscle hardness, have not noticed the better recovery, but strength and mass gains simply do not come the same way they do on orals. I tried the same thing, eating more food and trying to pack that weight on... didn't really change my results, felt full/sick from eating, looked like i was on the verge of getting fatter not making gains ><
Definitely get on the sust... IMO 750/week is perfectly fine but think about this if 500 doesn't do much for you then i wouldn't expect 750 to be a lot better. I tried 700/week first time and didn't gain much... went over 1g the next time no difference... now I am just low-dosing it as a base because there's really no point in taking it very high, I gain the benefits just as well from a low dose.
Definitely get on the sust... IMO 750/week is perfectly fine but think about this if 500 doesn't do much for you then i wouldn't expect 750 to be a lot better. I tried 700/week first time and didn't gain much... went over 1g the next time no difference... now I am just low-dosing it as a base because there's really no point in taking it very high, I gain the benefits just as well from a low dose.
monsterbox
Well-known member
Yea i just don't get it man. I'm in week 7 almost, and I don't feel much at all. Yea my sex drive is good, I guess its higher than usual, but I'm on TRT anyways with levels of 1000+ng/dl...so how much higher can my sex drive possibly go ya know? I really just don't feel that much.
When I got on TRT and tripled my T levels, I didn't notice much either. I did gain 20lbs, but it was over a slow few month period. It never looked like I was "on" anything, its just like my natural potential increased dramtically.
Thats the way I feel now. Its like I'm totally natural, but I just recover each workout a bit better. I don't feel swoll, hard, jacked, pumped, and solid. Its NOTHING like being on 50mg/wk of havoc. I feel smaller than before cycle, because I'm not on creatine right now. Its a joke. The IGF-1 really really helps out on the days I use it, but test alone right now is a gimic.
I don't want to blow another 200 bucks on sust. Maybe I should switch to 250mg/wk of sus, and run some Tren or something nuts? I want to feel like i'm on havoc and be able to sustain that for 12 weeks. Right now my only options are injectable winny and sus250, both pharm grade. I also have some superdrol which I'm not opposed to trying again now that I'm on test, and another bottle of havoc. I just think I really need to stay far from oral considering its only been a week off from havoc. But, I'm just really pissed I spent all this money on diet/trainining/supps and I'm sitting at 203 right now and stagnant. My body just won't break this wall. Im 100% certain if I had run maybe 50-60mg/havoc and no test, Id be at the same point I am now. The test doesn't do sh*t for me.
People over rate the f*ck out the the "darkside". Superdrol is by far like 1000 thousand times stronger than 500mg/wk of testosterone. Test-E is a joke unless this is underdosed/bunk.
timmmah
Active member
Finish this cycle with sust and go through PCT, you've only been on test 6 weeks and maybe aren't noticing the effects.
Do you lose stamina near the end of workouts the same as when you're not on?
P.S. next time run test solo until finishing with havoc weeks 10-14 of a 1-12 week enanthate cycle, I'm doing that same cycle with 400 mg deca right now and start havoc in 1 week.
Do you lose stamina near the end of workouts the same as when you're not on?
P.S. next time run test solo until finishing with havoc weeks 10-14 of a 1-12 week enanthate cycle, I'm doing that same cycle with 400 mg deca right now and start havoc in 1 week.
Dragon13
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I assume your TRT dose was put to the side to run the test-e. That said, there's a very real possibility the test you're running is underdosed, and your levels haven't increased a whole lot over what you usually have (1,000+ ng/dl is a hell of a "natural" level).
Also, bear in mind there is some dispute as to whether or not Unreal's sust was bunk/underdosed as well, but he will have bloodwork back soon to put the speculation to rest. I suggest you do the same; if your test comes back at some ridiculous level, you'll at least know your enth is legit and you just need to up the dose (or eat more).
And if it's not at a ridiculious level...
Barring that, if the sust is 100%, iron-clad pharm grade ****: run it!! Whatever happens, either continued blah results or gains start rolling in again, you'll have your answer.
monsterbox
Well-known member
great points. I actually found some legit test-e. I'm going to get 20ml and try it out, bumping the dose up to 650mg. I don't think its from a pharm, but I personally know people that use this one and swear by it...ill be switching in 10 days.
bigzach1234
Active member
750mg is exponentially better then 500 imo... ull have to play with doses and see for yourself.. i dont get very much off 500mg
monsterbox
Well-known member
well, i think the 500mg might have finally started to kick in...its week 7, what a long time.
I thew up 225 for lots of reps on monday. Today is thurs and I threw up 245 for reps of 5 which is unheard of for me. I haven't done legs in two weeks and I was squatting 315 ass to the floor reps of 8. I went from half the stack on quad extensions to the entire machine for reps of 10 today which is insane as well. But, I still dont have any stronger pumps and my weight is down! The gym scale reads 198lbs...i do look lean as f*ck compared to earlier however.
It could just be that 500mg isn't alot for me considering i'm on 200mg equivalent of cream. Should i jump straight to 750mg, 3cc/week when the new sh*t gets in?
I thew up 225 for lots of reps on monday. Today is thurs and I threw up 245 for reps of 5 which is unheard of for me. I haven't done legs in two weeks and I was squatting 315 ass to the floor reps of 8. I went from half the stack on quad extensions to the entire machine for reps of 10 today which is insane as well. But, I still dont have any stronger pumps and my weight is down! The gym scale reads 198lbs...i do look lean as f*ck compared to earlier however.
It could just be that 500mg isn't alot for me considering i'm on 200mg equivalent of cream. Should i jump straight to 750mg, 3cc/week when the new sh*t gets in?
monsterbox
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After 15 weeks, recomping so far...500mg test. Gained good size, still at 200lbs even.
About to finished second 20ml bottle...going on to a third and increasing to 750mg for the next 8 weeks, then calling quits. Total of a 25 weeks cycle
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After 15 weeks, recomping so far...500mg test. Gained good size, still at 200lbs even.
About to finished second 20ml bottle...going on to a third and increasing to 750mg for the next 8 weeks, then calling quits. Total of a 25 weeks cycle