iPhone 4, Who's getting one?

[Mulletsoldier]

Also, since the X-BOX has been mentioned, did anybody else find it somewhat comedic when MS released the new PS3 - that is, new X-BOX, I mean - at E3 today? I more or less took it as, "a checklist of things Sony did properly four years ago, and that we are consequently mirroring:

1. Black, glossy plastic design and sharper corners √
2. Larger HD √
3. Built in Wi-Fi √
4. Quieter cooling fans √"

 

[votum]

Linux can be fun for techies, byt mainstream it wouldneed alot to make it a real competitor.

If you really want linux fun, get on a security distro like backtrack. You will learn a ton and get into some techie mischief.

P.s. Anyone work for att and want to hook me up with an early upgrade?

Agreed with Linux. You learn a ton with a Gentoo build too

I don't work for them, but I can tell you the secret to free unlimited upgrades whenever you want!

Step 1: Buy the most expensive phone they have with a new contract, ATT has "tiers" so if you start off at the top tier phone, its easier to continue to recieve the top tier.

Step 2: Uh-oh, your phone broke (not really) but call the warranty department, and tell them it is dropping calls and shutting down randomly. This is something they can't test for because it is "random"

Step 3: they will send you a replacement, which is 100% of the time a refurbished phone.

Step 4: since it is refurbished, you can call back the day you get it and complain about the same problem

Step 5: you have to get the same phone 3 times via warranty department

Step 6: after the 3rd time receiving your faulty phone, tell them it is a huge inconvenience, and you would like to just get a different model.

Step 7: They MAY offer you a lower tier model, if they do that just say something like, I paid 300 dollars for this phone...why are you offering me a lower end phone than the one I have?

Step 8: eventually, it may take a while on the phone, they will give you a full kit of whatever phone you want.

I have no idea if this works for the iPhone, because I doubt ATT does anything with the warranties, but I have done this several times, moving up from a crappy sony flip phone, to a blackjack, to an ATT tilt, to an HTC Fuze...all free

Then again, I doubt it will work for the iPhone because its Apple who controls distribution. Veyr likely you could talk them into an early contract upgrade with the same principles though.

Its not stealing imo, they charge outrageous fees anyway..

 

[Dwight Schrute]

I mean curiosity is human nature, when I talk with a random individual about the iphone or a mac or whatever, average joe doesn't really know anything about his gadget except "its cool, its an iphone, its simple" etc. He doesn't know what kind of actual capabilities it could have, he doesn't know much about the technology inside it,

That's because the average Joe doesn't care. He wants his device to be simple and effective. Computers were meant to simplify things, not cause you to pull your hair out because that rootkit keeps coming back.

The same argument can be made about cars. Some want more power, most want it to work for a long tine while looking good. That's the nature of things. Nobody is forcing you to conform.

For me, it's just easier for me to sit here and watch The Office while responding using my IPhone or AppleTV that's been hacked.

 

[votum]

Also, since the X-BOX has been mentioned, did anybody else find it somewhat comedic when MS released the new PS3 - that is, new X-BOX, I mean - at E3 today? I more or less took it as, "a checklist of things Sony did properly four years ago, and that we are consequently mirroring:

1. Black, glossy plastic design and sharper corners √
2. Larger HD √
3. Built in Wi-Fi √
4. Quieter cooling fans √"

Plus the built in Natal port, which I haven't read up on really. Sounds dumb imo.

It's just a refresh like all consoles do, although I wish they would just quit doing that and announce the next gen consoles already.

I prefer the game selection on the 360, but to be honest I don't play games as much anymore, and sold my xbox before I came to iraq, might pick one up again, or a ps3 when I come home, maybe. Power isn't really a big deal in consoles imo, the games look pretty or dont, some ps3 games look better than 360 games and vice versa. Blue ray player is sweet though, but you won't catch me paying 30 bucks for a movie

 

[Young Gotti]

Let me guess....you'll snap us out of it by forcing us to fist pump to Tupac?

:dance:

as far as i know you fist pump to techno music....good try though...and you might want to listen to some tupac...might learn a few things

 

[Dwight Schrute]

as far as i know you fist pump to techno music....good try though...and you might want to listen to some tupac...might learn a few things

Thank god I don't know.

Yeah, I heard Tupac was a well respected academic.

 

[DAdams91982]

Oh, btw, Fermi was a total letdown lol. Don't get me wrong, it's a very powerful card and all, but it definitely isn't the game changing earth shattering new technology that Nvidia led us all to believe it would be

Fermi is a new set of cuda processing for graphical processing. 512 fermi cores process imagery over four times as fast as cuda 2.0 commands. I have a server farm of fermi. For graphically processing satellite imagery for google earth. More industrial than gaming.

 

[votum]

Fermi is a new set of cuda processing for graphical processing. 512 fermi cores process imagery over four times as fast as cuda 2.0 commands. I have a server farm of fermi. For graphically processing satellite imagery for google earth. More industrial than gaming.

My bad, my experience with workstation fermi = 0

Let me re-word

Consumer level fermi was a let down

 

[Dwight Schrute]

Fermi is a new set of cuda processing for graphical processing. 512 fermi cores process imagery over four times as fast as cuda 2.0 commands. I have a server farm of fermi. For graphically processing satellite imagery for google earth. More industrial than gaming.

You KNOW DA just wanted to get into the thread just to drop some tech talk



:lol:

 

[Trauma1]

Eh, I'll stick with my 3GS for now.

What I really want is an iPad, however I'm sure my wife will think of 10,000 reasons why I/we don't need one.

Oh, the bliss that is marriage... :twak::lol:

 

[Young Gotti]

Thank god I don't know.

Yeah, I heard Tupac was a well respected academic.

is being academically respected the only way ppl can learn from you?....i learn everyday from ppl on here, i don't think everyone is in the top academic field, i could be wrong but they do have a class studying tupac's songs and interviews at harvard so ppl are learning from him everyday

and for that matter obama went to harvard...and his decision making and teaching and guiding of america is terrible

 

[DAdams91982]

You KNOW DA just wanted to get into the thread just to drop some tech talk



:lol:

If only I can deny that! You really don't get to talk much tech around AM! :fing02:

 

[DAdams91982]

* Client (28% of revenue and 45% of net income in FY2009[9][10][11][12][13]): The client segment, accounting for approximately 28% of total revenue, includes sales and marketing expenses for the Windows operating system. 80% of this revenue is from the sale of products with pre-install versions of Windows operating systems.[14] In an effort to strengthen its grip on the PC market, Microsoft launched Windows 7 on October 22, 2009 replacing its disappointing Vista. The release comes three year after the launch of Vista, which frustrated many home users and turned off business customers due to its sluggishness, intrusiveness, and incompatibility with many gadgets. By summer 2009, two-thirds of corporate computers were still running Windows XP. The success of Windows, which accounts for more than half of Microsoft’s profits, is crucial to revive the company’s image and its share in the PC market. Windows 7 is faster, less cluttered, and has new touch-screen features, while keeping Vista’s security and stability; it is an improvement from Vista. [15]

* Server and Tools - Products for IT Professionals (22% of revenue and 16% of net income in FY2009[9][10][11][12][13]): The Server and Tools segment, which accounts for approximately 22% of Microsoft’s revenue, develops and markets software server products, services, and solutions such as Windows Server 2008 and Visual Studio 2008. Approximately 45% of Server and Tools revenue comes from multi-year licensing agreements, 25% through fully packaged product and transactional volume licensing programs, and 10% from licenses sold to original equipment manufacturers (OEMs).[16]


The point? Overtime their almost monopoly like status will be eroded and has been for 10 years.

But yet, with the release of Win7, profits have returned to the client sector of MS... I fully admit Vista was a failure, mostly because it seemed they released way to early, and kept with the monolithic kernel. Invalid Link Removed

As for competition, as with any market anywhere, you introduce competition, you will lose stake. There was no competition for MS pre 2K... who... IBM OS/2 Warp? (Which BTW I fully believe Warp was a much better OS than Windows ) Now introduce consumer aimed Nix systems (Which is what Apple is) and it will surely take something away. The only reason I do not own an apple is because it is all proprietary and they do not follow any kind of standard set by the industry.

 

[HereToStudy]

Eh, I'll stick with my 3GS for now.

What I really want is an iPad, however I'm sure my wife will think of 10,000 reasons why I/we don't need one.

Oh, the bliss that is marriage... :twak::lol:

I would suggest against that (and if you read above I don't hate apple. To me though the iPad is a gimmick type item. For significantly less you could get a much more capable netbook. I would have been all over the ipad if it was a true tablet, running OS X. The iPad is a bigger iPhone, nothing more nothing less.

 

[Dwight Schrute]

But yet, with the release of Win7, profits have returned to the client sector of MS... I fully admit Vista was a failure, mostly because it seemed they released way to early, and kept with the monolithic kernel. Invalid Link Removed

Yes but much of that was due to cost cutting.


"Microsoft reported a record revenue of roughly $19 billion for 2Q10, a 14% increase from 2Q09[6]. Top-line growth was driven by the well-hyped release of its new operating system, Windows 7, which was launched globally October 2009 and sold more than 60 million copies in 2Q10, making it the fastest selling operating system in history[6]. It was also boosted by a 15-17% YoY increase in unit PC sales, as well as the sale of 5.2 million XBOX 360 consoles < ref name=2Q10 />. Its Online Services Division witnessed a 5% YoY decline, hurt by a 2% decline in online advertising revenue and the negative impact international rate declines took on its display revenue. However, the real story in 2Q10 was MSFT's ability to simultaneously cut costs, which resulted in a net income of $6.66 billion for the quarter, a 60% increase over 2Q09. This disciplined cost-cutting dates back to FY2009, when MSFT reduced general and administrative expenses by 28% to offset the weakness in the global PC and server market that was plaguing its revenue growth [7]. The company also managed to generate $5.0 billion in operating cash flow, $4.8 billion of which it returned to investors. "

As for competition, as with any market anywhere, you introduce competition, you will lose stake. There was no competition for MS pre 2K... who... IBM OS/2 Warp?

Agreed but why is there competition now? When you answer that questions it comes down to better alternatives. The main reason they keep such a large market share is not because of superiority, its because of necessity built up over such a long time. That simply if being eroded over time.

 

[Dwight Schrute]

is being academically respected the only way ppl can learn from you?....i learn everyday from ppl on here, i don't think everyone is in the top academic field, i could be wrong but they do have a class studying tupac's songs and interviews at harvard so ppl are learning from him everyday

and for that matter obama went to harvard...and his decision making and teaching and guiding of america is terrible

Well if its a choice between a learned academic in a certain area in which I'm interested vs. a rapper who is dead, I would generally pick the learned academic. But hey, whatever floats your boat.

Tupac in my eyes is a lesson of what not to do.....not what to do.

I bet Tupac would have supported Obama...just saying.

 

[Dwight Schrute]

I would suggest against that (and if you read above I don't hate apple. To me though the iPad is a gimmick type item. For significantly less you could get a much more capable netbook. I would have been all over the ipad if it was a true tablet, running OS X. The iPad is a bigger iPhone, nothing more nothing less.

Some people want a big Iphone.


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[Dwight Schrute]

If only I can deny that! You really don't get to talk much tech around AM! :fing02:

We could talk about my bluray collection on my AppleTV.....wait...maybe not

 

[Mulletsoldier]

Well if its a choice between a learned academic in a certain area in which I'm interested vs. a rapper who is dead, I would generally pick the learned academic. But hey, whatever floats your boat.

Tupac in my eyes is a lesson of what not to do.....not what to do.

I bet Tupac would have supported Obama...just saying.

And Tupac was in Juice with Jada Pinkett Smith, who was in the Matrix series with Laurence Fishburn, who was in Mission Impossible III with Tom Cruise, who was in A Few Good Men with Kevin Bacon. He does it in three degrees! :lol:

 

[DAdams91982]

Yes but much of that was due to cost cutting.


"Microsoft reported a record revenue of roughly $19 billion for 2Q10, a 14% increase from 2Q09[6]. Top-line growth was driven by the well-hyped release of its new operating system, Windows 7, which was launched globally October 2009 and sold more than 60 million copies in 2Q10, making it the fastest selling operating system in history[6]. It was also boosted by a 15-17% YoY increase in unit PC sales, as well as the sale of 5.2 million XBOX 360 consoles < ref name=2Q10 />. Its Online Services Division witnessed a 5% YoY decline, hurt by a 2% decline in online advertising revenue and the negative impact international rate declines took on its display revenue. However, the real story in 2Q10 was MSFT's ability to simultaneously cut costs, which resulted in a net income of $6.66 billion for the quarter, a 60% increase over 2Q09. This disciplined cost-cutting dates back to FY2009, when MSFT reduced general and administrative expenses by 28% to offset the weakness in the global PC and server market that was plaguing its revenue growth [7]. The company also managed to generate $5.0 billion in operating cash flow, $4.8 billion of which it returned to investors. "

Cost cutting came in all businesses across the US during that time frame, that is nothing new. Anheuser cut thousands upon thousands of jobs and have yet to break the gains found prior to recession, same with the Auto industry, Ford cut cost, put out better product and they started making money again... same can be said for MS.

Agreed but why is there competition now? When you answer that questions it comes down to better alternatives. The main reason they keep such a large market share is not because of superiority, its because of necessity built up over such a long time. That simply if being eroded over time.

There is competition now because there is nothing out there that is innovative. Everybody is doing the same old thing and making money. MS can be copied and copied again and their competitor makes money. Simple fact, many of the standards that every body uses were set by MS. Again though, the Business Sector is on the climb with Win2K8 R2 and Win7 release.. it was eroding because of Vista that wasn't adopted. The only alternative is Linux (Which does have a good foothold in HPC markets), but workstation and enterprise applications will not even have a blip. Apple is inconsequential to Enterprise networks.

 

[DAdams91982]

We could talk about my bluray collection on my AppleTV.....wait...maybe not

Bam... AppleTV.. I love that concept for my media collection.. I want to copy all my DVDs to my centralized media server and stream them over.... do you do that? Does it work well? PS3 just doesnt handle it well, and doesnt support MKV files.

I was thinking of waiting out the next gen of AppleTV.

 

[Young Gotti]

Well if its a choice between a learned academic in a certain area in which I'm interested vs. a rapper who is dead, I would generally pick the learned academic. But hey, whatever floats your boat.

Tupac in my eyes is a lesson of what not to do.....not what to do.

I bet Tupac would have supported Obama...just saying.

what not to do? you mean ur not supposed to give back to the community the way he did by donating food and things, or by standing up for what you believe in? or staying true to who you are rather than trying to fit a mold of what ppl think you should be

i went to college and it's a much different type of learning, book smarts will get you the degree and the degree will in turn help you get a good job, but that in no way means that the person with the degree is smarter than the person without one, it might mean your book smarter but that only gets you by in certain places

friends, your enviroment, experiences, and in some cases music is what teaches ppl how to get through life, how to handle things well, how someone will interact in a social setting, many ppl may even say ppl learn more from struggles and failure than they do with constant success

actually in this thread, windows should be learning about the struggles now, they were on top of the game for years and probably didn't worry about things, now they are learning they have competition they must watch out for and might even come back a stronger/better/more customer friendly company

 

[Dwight Schrute]

Cost cutting came in all businesses across the US during that time frame, that is nothing new. Anheuser cut thousands upon thousands of jobs and have yet to break the gains found prior to recession, same with the Auto industry, Ford cut cost, put out better product and they started making money again... same can be said for MS.

No, not all. Apple didn't.



In reality, they never been the same in investors eyes since the Nasdaq crash no matter what market share they hold. They simply are not the monster they used to be and that will only get worse over time.

It took 30 years to achieve. It doens't go away overnight.

There is competition now because there is nothing out there that is innovative. Everybody is doing the same old thing and making money. MS can be copied and copied again and their competitor makes money.

Interesting little article in Fortune about them:


Why investors value Apple more than Microsoft
Posted by Adam Lashinsky, Sr. Editor at Large
June 15, 2010 8:29 AM

Ever since Apple (AAPL) passed Microsoft (MSFT) in market value, I've been thinking about the vast disparity in their profits. The two companies have similar valuations ($231 billion for Apple, $223 billion for Microsoft), yet Microsoft is far more profitable. In the last 12 months Microsoft has made more than $17 billion. Apple's profits are a bit under $11 billion.

Think about that for a moment. Investors are willing to pay more for a dollar of profits at Apple than at Microsoft, and not a little more. A lot more. Obviously, the market values Apple for its growth. But that's only part of the explanation. Microsoft is growing too, yet investors value Apple at more than 16 times its forecasted 2011 earnings, while Microsoft fetches just 11 times next year's projected profits. (Microsoft's revenues are bigger than Apple's too, but not by as wide a margin, $59.5 billion versus $51.1 billion.)

The explanations are positive and negative, and neither works in Microsoft's favor. On the negative side, investors have put Microsoft in the penalty box for its fumbles. It loses billions chasing Google (GOOG) in online search advertising. It is nowhere on mobile software, despite having been first to the game. By years. Had Windows 7 been as bad as Vista, the story could have been even worse.

The real story, though, is the premium investors are willing to pay for Apple's innovation. The company has transformed itself from a niche also-ran in personal computers to the technology industry's innovation leader bar none. Apple re-defined multiple industries in the past decade and doesn't appear to be slowing down. Music distribution, portable music players, telephones, handheld computers. Investors wonder what's next. Televisions? Stereos? Automobiles?

The pendulum swings, of course. There was a time when only true fans raved about Apple, and Wall Street tut-tutted its limited appeal. Today, everyone loves Apple. But investors show their love in a particularly numerate way. The innovation premium doesn't lie. In the case of Apple versus Microsoft, it is stunning.

 

[Dwight Schrute]

Bam... AppleTV.. I love that concept for my media collection.. I want to copy all my DVDs to my centralized media server and stream them over.... do you do that? Does it work well? PS3 just doesnt handle it well, and doesnt support MKV files.

I was thinking of waiting out the next gen of AppleTV.

Yeah I stream everything. Works great. Stream everything from a 2TB external drive.

Actually a Mac Mini is better because then you get true Bluray quality. As of now AppleTV only supports 1280x728...its their HD format. Its almost impossible to tell the difference unless you have a very high quality HDTV.

I compared the bluray of Lord of the Rings and you can't tell the difference.

Netflix, AnyDVD, Handbrake, BAM...but thats something I only "heard" about

 

[Dwight Schrute]

what not to do? you mean ur not supposed to give back to the community the way he did by donating food and things, or by standing up for what you believe in? or staying true to who you are rather than trying to fit a mold of what ppl think you should be

i went to college and it's a much different type of learning, book smarts will get you the degree and the degree will in turn help you get a good job, but that in no way means that the person with the degree is smarter than the person without one, it might mean your book smarter but that only gets you by in certain places

friends, your enviroment, experiences, and in some cases music is what teaches ppl how to get through life, how to handle things well, how someone will interact in a social setting, many ppl may even say ppl learn more from struggles and failure than they do with constant success

actually in this thread, windows should be learning about the struggles now, they were on top of the game for years and probably didn't worry about things, now they are learning they have competition they must watch out for and might even come back a stronger/better/more customer friendly company

:hypnotized:

 

[DAdams91982]

No, not all. Apple didn't.



In reality, they never been the same in investors eyes since the Nasdaq crash no matter what market share they hold. They simply are not the monster they used to be and that will only get worse over time.

It took 30 years to achieve. It doens't go away overnight.



Interesting little article in Fortune about them:


Why investors value Apple more than Microsoft
Posted by Adam Lashinsky, Sr. Editor at Large
June 15, 2010 8:29 AM

Ever since Apple (AAPL) passed Microsoft (MSFT) in market value, I've been thinking about the vast disparity in their profits. The two companies have similar valuations ($231 billion for Apple, $223 billion for Microsoft), yet Microsoft is far more profitable. In the last 12 months Microsoft has made more than $17 billion. Apple's profits are a bit under $11 billion.

Think about that for a moment. Investors are willing to pay more for a dollar of profits at Apple than at Microsoft, and not a little more. A lot more. Obviously, the market values Apple for its growth. But that's only part of the explanation. Microsoft is growing too, yet investors value Apple at more than 16 times its forecasted 2011 earnings, while Microsoft fetches just 11 times next year's projected profits. (Microsoft's revenues are bigger than Apple's too, but not by as wide a margin, $59.5 billion versus $51.1 billion.)

The explanations are positive and negative, and neither works in Microsoft's favor. On the negative side, investors have put Microsoft in the penalty box for its fumbles. It loses billions chasing Google (GOOG) in online search advertising. It is nowhere on mobile software, despite having been first to the game. By years. Had Windows 7 been as bad as Vista, the story could have been even worse.

The real story, though, is the premium investors are willing to pay for Apple's innovation. The company has transformed itself from a niche also-ran in personal computers to the technology industry's innovation leader bar none. Apple re-defined multiple industries in the past decade and doesn't appear to be slowing down. Music distribution, portable music players, telephones, handheld computers. Investors wonder what's next. Televisions? Stereos? Automobiles?

The pendulum swings, of course. There was a time when only true fans raved about Apple, and Wall Street tut-tutted its limited appeal. Today, everyone loves Apple. But investors show their love in a particularly numerate way. The innovation premium doesn't lie. In the case of Apple versus Microsoft, it is stunning.

Again, MS was the only player in the market, so no matter what, share will be taken away from. MS is thought to be as big as it can get, which I agree is true. One thing you fail to produce is the shear amount of stock available for MS vs. Apple. Increase the amount available, and their numbers drop down dramatically.

We are really talking about two different markets.

Apple = Consumer electronics (And they do it well)
MS = Business Enterprise Systems

When you try to compare a cool phone with an Enterprise SQL server, things get twisted.

This part really bother me

Apple re-defined multiple industries in the past decade and doesn't appear to be slowing down. Music distribution, portable music players, telephones, handheld computers. Investors wonder what's next. Televisions? Stereos? Automobiles?

Seriously... EVERY portion in here described was done well before Apple. Adding a pretty face to it does not equal innovation.

 

[DAdams91982]

Yeah I stream everything. Works great.

Actually a Mac Mini is better because then you get true Bluray quality. As of now AppleTV only supports 1280x728...its their HD format. Its almost impossible to tell the difference unless you have a very high quality HDTV.

I compared the bluray of Lord of the Rings and you can't tell the difference.

Netflix, AnyDVD, Handbrake, BAM...but thats something I only "heard" about

Hmm.. I wonder if a future gen will support 1080P... My house is wired with 1G, so not WiFi crap slowing me down!

What format do you convert to?

 

[Dwight Schrute]

Hmm.. I wonder if a future gen will support 1080P... My house is wired with 1G, so not WiFi crap slowing me down!

What format do you convert to?

That's what they are saying but you can get a first or second gen Mac Mini for pretty cheap and you don't have to worry.

I stream everything MP4. Movie file is between 3-4gb each. Encoding takes 10-12hours but I just queues the files up in Handbrake and let it go.

Wifi isn't slow at all. I can fast forward, rewind, everything. No hiccups. Of course I use an Airport Xtreme

 

[DAdams91982]

That's what they are saying but you can get a first or second gen Mac Mini for pretty cheap and you don't have to worry.

I stream everything MP4. Movie file is between 3-4gb each. Encoding takes 10-12hours but I just queues the files up in Handbrake and let it go.

Wifi isn't slow at all. I can fast forward, rewind, everything. No hiccups. Of course I use an Airport Xtreme

For Wifi.. I mean in general. I have wireless N and all, and still find it slow! I love wired networking.. next up... fiber!

I want all my files to be MKV with original encoding in the container file. Wonder is that will be supported in the next gen. I really want just a set top box instead of a full blown machine. I can always do that with one of the PCs I have laying around.

 

[Dwight Schrute]

Seriously... EVERY portion in here described was done well before Apple. Adding a pretty face to it does not equal innovation.

Actually in terms of what they have done to existing industries, they are pretty innovative in their marketing strategies.


Innovation isn't just invention. Microsoft marketed Windows better than everyone else, they didn't invent the concept of GUI (which we both know was stolen).

What Apple has done is pretty innovative in my eyes.

 

[HereToStudy]

Actually in terms of what they have done to existing industries, they are pretty innovative in their marketing strategies.

I agree, muscle tech rules.




:lol: (i kid)




(please dont hurt me...)

 

[DAdams91982]

Actually in terms of what they have done to existing industries, they are pretty innovative in their marketing strategies.


Innovation isn't just invention. Microsoft marketed Windoes better than everyone else, they didn't invent the concept of GUI (which we both know was stolen).

What Apple has done is pretty innovative in my eyes.

Bar None... Apple does have innovative marketing.

 

[Dwight Schrute]

So who's getting the new Iphone?

 

[bradleywiens]

So who's getting the new Iphone?

I started trying to order at 0400, and never got though. Now I gotta wait until mid July. Fail.

 

[rugger48]

So who's getting the new Iphone?

I am, AND YOU TELL"EM HELL IS COMING WITH ME!!!!!!!!!!111!!!11

 

[bradleywiens]

We just gotta get an AM app running now!

 

[DAdams91982]

We just gotta get an AM app running now!

Pretty sure AM is setup on Tapatalk.

 

[votum]

This part really bother me

Seriously... EVERY portion in here described was done well before Apple. Adding a pretty face to it does not equal innovation.

You sir are my hero

This is one of my issues with Apple...the only innovation they have ever done is in the marketing department. Jobs could sell an iRock and claim it improves your mood or something and people would buy it

All they have ever done was deliver sub-par technology, but they go all out on advertising so people who are not tech-savvy actually believe that whatever product they are talking about is actually brand new technology and the coolest thing in the world. It works so props to them for it, but being a complete tech geek I consider Apple to be the Muscletech of the technology world...pretty pictures and flashy advertising with sub-par equipment. If people bought the most advanced stuff, and learned a little about it, they could do so much more than any Apple product.

Simplicity has its merit though, so kudos for that

Edit: I didn't realize the marketing was covered..oh well, my .02 anyway :lol:

 

[votum]

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Brand new mac mini. Still using an old batch of chips, but no power brick

 

[Dwight Schrute]

You sir are my hero

This is one of my issues with Apple...the only innovation they have ever done is in the marketing department. Jobs could sell an iRock and claim it improves your mood or something and people would buy it

All they have ever done was deliver sub-par technology, but they go all out on advertising so people who are not tech-savvy actually believe that whatever product they are talking about is actually brand new technology and the coolest thing in the world.

Yet you defend Microsoft who basically had a monopoly for 30 years with a cluster **** of an OS.


Its just really funny having people talk about Muscletech yet defend one of the largest companies that have had more anti-trust suits brought against them and probably has the worst track record when it comes to offering a choice in the last 30 years.

Do you not understand that Bill Gates stole Windows from Steve Jobs who stole Windows from Xerox?


Yet its Apple who is the villian. Man, some of you people got your cones and rods all screwed up... :lol:

 

[Dwight Schrute]

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Brand new mac mini. Still using an old batch of chips, but no power brick

I'm trying to find where the Mac Mini was supposed to be a computer for a power user...but can't seem to find it. Wonder why.

 

[Dwight Schrute]

Pretty sure AM is setup on Tapatalk.

We actually got denied a year and a half ago because they stated you could basically see the same thing in Safari.

I guess they changed their minds after that because now all I see is apps for various websites. :lol:

I actually forgot about Tapatalk.

 

[Dwight Schrute]

I started trying to order at 0400, and never got though. Now I gotta wait until mid July. Fail.

600,000 iPhone 4s pre-ordered, Apple apologizes for issues


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Pretty sick.

 

[votum]

I'm trying to find where the Mac Mini was supposed to be a computer for a power user...but can't seem to find it. Wonder why.

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You guys were talking about mac minis, I just remembered reading an article about a new one, so I thought I'd be helpful

Oh wait...you were talking about mac tv huh Doh

 

[Dwight Schrute]

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You guys were talking about mac minis, I just remembered reading an article about a new one, so I thought I'd be helpful

Oh wait...you were talking about mac tv huh Doh

That update for my purpose is great. Mac Mini is a great media center for encoded blurays.

 

[Mulletsoldier]

You sir are my hero

This is one of my issues with Apple...the only innovation they have ever done is in the marketing department. Jobs could sell an iRock and claim it improves your mood or something and people would buy it

All they have ever done was deliver sub-par technology, but they go all out on advertising so people who are not tech-savvy actually believe that whatever product they are talking about is actually brand new technology and the coolest thing in the world. It works so props to them for it, but being a complete tech geek I consider Apple to be the Muscletech of the technology world...pretty pictures and flashy advertising with sub-par equipment. If people bought the most advanced stuff, and learned a little about it, they could do so much more than any Apple product.

Simplicity has its merit though, so kudos for that

Edit: I didn't realize the marketing was covered..oh well, my .02 anyway :lol:

But what people fail to realize is that is innovation. Taking an already existing template that only a small niche amount of people own, readily operate, and desire - see, PDAs, personal music players, etc - and making it not only accessible, but stylish, is innovative.

Apple has successfully altered every component of the tech., industry it has explored by taking a different approach to innovation than one may normally consider. Consider it in the following way. One can innovate by increasing the mechanical potency of a device (and I mean that in the sense of power, efficiency, etc) to make the already existent user-group go "Ooh, ahh," or, one can innovate by making an entirely new user-group desire the same type of product.

While Apple's innovation is in the form of prim-and-polish to already well-done industries, it must be recognized that the prim-and-polish is what almost every single tech firm now attempts to emulate in the hardware! Why? Because technology previously lacked that stylish flair, and, you guessed it, introducing that is innovation!

 

[votum]

Yet you defend Microsoft who basically had a monopoly for 30 years with a cluster **** of an OS.


Its just really funny having people talk about Muscletech yet defend one of the largest companies that have had more anti-trust suits brought against them and probably have the worst track records when it comes to offering a choice in the last 30 years.

Yet its Apple who is the villian. Man, some of you people got your cones and rods all screwed up... :lol:

I'm only defending MS in the context of windows vs Mac, yeah, monopolies are very bad, and it allowed MS to have a **** product, but with some knowledge you can turn a **** product into a good one, hell, you can remove like 50% of the services in windows and speed it up a ton.

If you look at windows by itself there is no doubt it is a crap product.

But when I look at windows vs mac, windows takes the lead in every single category for me personally, hands down. It doesn't have better performance out of the box, but I make it have betetr performance than OSX, I make it more intuitive than OSX, I make it exactly what I want it to be. There's 230498 billion more options for software, all my games are DirectX, etc. I dunno, windows just wins for me hands down. I'm not saying it isn't a bad OS, or that osx doesn't win for others, just for me windows wins.

Have you tried Windows 7?? I think you'd actually be impressed

 

[HereToStudy]

... I was the one that made the musclr tech comment....it was just a joke.

I am in complete agreement with votom on this one though, i can care less about the company that is ms, i care more for the product, and although not flawless i have never hit a limitation with windows and if there is one i fix it, cant say the same for osx.

 

[Dwight Schrute]

I'm only defending MS in the context of windows vs Mac, yeah, monopolies are very bad, and it allowed MS to have a **** product, but with some knowledge you can turn a **** product into a good one, hell, you can remove like 50% of the services in windows and speed it up a ton.

If you look at windows by itself there is no doubt it is a crap product.

But when I look at windows vs mac, windows takes the lead in every single category for me personally, hands down. It doesn't have better performance out of the box, but I make it have betetr performance than OSX, I make it more intuitive than OSX, I make it exactly what I want it to be. There's 230498 billion more options for software, all my games are DirectX, etc. I dunno, windows just wins for me hands down. I'm not saying it isn't a bad OS, or that osx doesn't win for others, just for me windows wins.

Have you tried Windows 7?? I think you'd actually be impressed

In other words, you want to tweak it so your games run smoother.

In other words, there is more to fix, your able to fix it, therefore you like Windows.

Got it

 

[DAdams91982]

Man, I still love that MS is the world leader in OS and still selling strong, yet call the OS crap.