JudgementDay
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I hear nothing but good things about DTP, I will def be trying this sometime.
DTP Dosing Thread
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TripDog
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Feedback is much appreciated bro, thanks for the interest. It is something that does truely stand alone.
TheDarkHalf
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Cool man, thanks. So do you still recommend this dosing in a PCT setting?
TheDarkHalf
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bump.
TripDog
Bananas
There are many that use dhea in pct early in the morning only to help combat cortisol build up. DTP is light years ahead of a standard dhea solo product, and in PCT you can run it prolly 2 tabs a day if taken first thing apon waking, and not dosing it after that. Use on DTH would be advised as a mid day booster, usually its stacked with sunami to help add libido/desire.
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yoshi5674
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Hey guys, I'm at the end of a 4 week "cycle" of DTP and I'm just starting to feel it kick in? Does this mean that I needed to increase my dosage? Here's my stats and dosing;
34 yrs old
210lbs
8% BF
5 days on 2 days off M/T/W/F/S
I started off taking 4 pre-workout in the A.M. and 2 post workout and then 2 4hrs later.
At week 3 I noticed a decrease in my libido so I decreased it to 3 pre-workout and then 1 and 1.
I increased the dose back to 4 pre and 2 post workout and then 2 for week 4.
My only other supps are R4W 2caps preworkout and protein.
I didn't want to stack DTP with anything so I could see what it did for me?
Could I do another couple of weeks of DTP or should I take a break for a couple of weeks?
Thanks!
34 yrs old
210lbs
8% BF
5 days on 2 days off M/T/W/F/S
I started off taking 4 pre-workout in the A.M. and 2 post workout and then 2 4hrs later.
At week 3 I noticed a decrease in my libido so I decreased it to 3 pre-workout and then 1 and 1.
I increased the dose back to 4 pre and 2 post workout and then 2 for week 4.
My only other supps are R4W 2caps preworkout and protein.
I didn't want to stack DTP with anything so I could see what it did for me?
Could I do another couple of weeks of DTP or should I take a break for a couple of weeks?
Thanks!
TripDog
Bananas
You could keep it going a while longer if you want. Stacking it with DTH taken everyday would be bananas. Just remember the slight drop in libido indicates a rise in free testosterone, thats a good thing if you want to build muscle tissue. You low dose a anti-estrogen to further the increase in test/estro ratio in favor of anabolism. Something like formestane 3x a week or so could be a wise move.
subweevil
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What Trip said. Lower dose = more libido, adn the higher dose gears you up more for the gym than bedroom cardio. I've used DTP before and loved it, stacks very well with any pre-wokout supp(s). On days, I did 1 or 2 before the gym, and 1-2 spaced 4-8 hours apart throughout the day. Off days, it was DTH, pretty much in the same fashion. Couple of times I did 2 DTH and 1-2 DTP pre, and man, that gets it done!! I still feel DTP is one of the best all around, all in one supps. By week 2, I could tell it was going to be a good ride. I felt the effects before then, but they got very pronounced by then. Good luck, and keep us posted.
Chuck Diesel
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I should have DTH here or at, at least one retailer by end of next week.
yoshi5674
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BigDGee35
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Sweet! Ive been off the DTP for a while to give my body a break from i and have just been taking my DTH. I just picked up enough DTP to last me a good 6 months or so, just in case its not available when i need it. But i only have about 2-3 weeks left of dth 120 tabs. However, are the the DTH 240 ct tabs ever going to be coming back or will it just be 20ct from now on?
Chuck Diesel
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The problem is the 240ct's are by a manufacture who its impossible for me to get a hold of at times and they never complete runs in the time they agree on so I have just been making the 120's. Also when I did that last run of 240's people think they are getting 2x's as much product for the same price so when I sell the 120's people dont buy the 120's because they dont understand the 240's are 2 tabs per serving.
cybercrombie
Member
How's is this working for you? It's basically how I want to dose. How's the aggression, pumps, libido, etc? Thanks!
strester
Member
I've just kicked off this regimen ... too early to tell right now, but will update later down the road ... one thing is for sure: taking 3 mid-day was a severe kick in the pants in terms of energy
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Chuck Diesel
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Did you every try like 2/1/3 ?
strester
Member
It's my first week using DTP so seeing what dosage works best for me ... the past couple of days w/ 3 @ mid-day were just insane in the office ... today I've switched it up to 2/2/2 and doing chest tonight ... I'll give the 2/1/3 protocol a try on Friday when I do back ... looking forward to deads this week.
Chuck Diesel
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hey no prob., a lot of products like DTP have to do with timing so I just wanna make sure people use it correctly for best results around their time of day of training.
strester
Member
Did Legs yesterday and felt phenomenal ... this stuff is great ... I have one more question on dosing for my cardio days (T/Th) ... should I continue w/ the 2/1/3 dosing protocol or would you recommend something else?
TheDarkHalf
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Personally, since it's a cardio day, i'd say just take the day off from DTP. I only use DTP on workout days.
And on a side note, I'd just like to say thanks to Chuck and Get Diesel Nutrition for making such a solid product. I've only taken a few test boosters....but the first day I took 6 tabs...it was just like POW and I even had trouble sleeping that night. Good $hit guys keep it up.
strester
Member
That would mean I'm only dosing DTP M/W/F ... and my three bottles of DTP are going to last a lifetime
TheDarkHalf
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Then up your dosing to 8 tabs. 3/2/3. You could also try picking up another t booster to dose on your off days.
strester
Member
good call ... got 2 bottles of DTHC 120ct arriving any day now ... loved this stuff when I had the 240ct a while back
so in summary, dosing will be...
M/W/F: DTP 2/1/3
Tu/Th/Sa/Su: DTH 1/1/1
Chuck Diesel
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Thats how I run it but I can only take 4 dtp/day. 2 am and 2 preworkout. If I take more I'm walking around thinkin about porn and snappy at everyone.
jart45
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I am still tweaking, I just cant get it right? Right now I am running 3 DTP 5am (before my workout), 3 more DTP at noon,M,W,F. Then I run 8(240ct) EVERYDAY except Sunday, nothing on Sunday. 4 Sunami M-F. 3 R4W on M,W,F. 1 NCP on T,TH,SA. 2 scoops NOS Ether everyday too. What do u think Chuck?
Dcell22
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Don't know how I failed to spot/read thru this thread before but it seems to confirm what I already began to suspect after while- I had been overdosing DTP a bit- was taking 8/day (staggering 3 on/2 off). I was taking the max. suggested amount just cuz I liked it so much lol, but yeah since backing off the DTP by stacking in DTH I realized that 8 DTP/day was a bit crazy! I've only been taking 2-4 DTP w/ 2-4 DTH/day and noticed that I am getting all the benefit but not as much caveman sex drive, mood swing, bash rock over head feeling :tongue2: Still experimenting to find what amounts/ratios/timings work optimally for me though
Chuck Diesel
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What the????? I don't know what this all says but I would go:
3 dtp preworkout with 3 r4w and 2 scoops nos ether
1 sunami with 2 nos ether mid-day and 2 dtp,
pm 1 sunami
Nonworkout days:
Chuck Diesel
Are you Diesel?
None workout: 3 240ct am with 1 sunami 1 scoop nos ether
samething mid-day.
The ncp just whenever. Want but ur current stack seems to much
samething mid-day.
The ncp just whenever. Want but ur current stack seems to much
Dcell22
Member
Chuck- this appear to you as a good protocol for running DTP & DTH together?:
Workout Days (I typically workout in late evenings due to work):
2 DTP AM, 1 DTP+1DTH Mid, 2 DTP+2 DTH (+scoop(s) JP8) Pre-Workout (?)
I've been running DTP 5 days/week, on all my workout days- and depending on how I split my routine that week on an off day or two mixed w/ DTH- otherwise its just DTH on off days (I like to take DTP on Sat. nights which are always non-workout but I work a 16-hr overnight shift and it seems to help reduce cortisol/zombification- though I'm sure DTH would as well- ?)
As I noted above in thread when I was running DTP solo I was taking 8/day, was great but maybe too great lol, I like mixing them n, DTH has a feel of its own that's interesting in it's own right
Workout Days (I typically workout in late evenings due to work):
2 DTP AM, 1 DTP+1DTH Mid, 2 DTP+2 DTH (+scoop(s) JP8) Pre-Workout (?)
I've been running DTP 5 days/week, on all my workout days- and depending on how I split my routine that week on an off day or two mixed w/ DTH- otherwise its just DTH on off days (I like to take DTP on Sat. nights which are always non-workout but I work a 16-hr overnight shift and it seems to help reduce cortisol/zombification- though I'm sure DTH would as well- ?)
As I noted above in thread when I was running DTP solo I was taking 8/day, was great but maybe too great lol, I like mixing them n, DTH has a feel of its own that's interesting in it's own right
Chuck Diesel
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that looks fine, iv done similar before but with less JP8, like max 1.5 scoops or I run 3/4 scoops JP8 with 2 scoops NOS ETHER just cuz JP8 and DTP together pre-workout hits kinda hard (2 me).
Dcell22
Member
Cool, thx Chuck. Yeah I hit chest yesterday w/ that protocol and yeah the JP8 hits hard (but no jitters really which is pleasant needless to say), lol I got in there too close to the gym closing n was kinda heated when it closed I wanted to keep goin! I was doing 5x5 work (most intense I've gone since coming off layoff) and it felt smooth, still had huge full body pump for like almost an hour after finishing (w/ help of stretching). Hahaha the JP8 tastes more like chalky grape flintstone vitamin (took me back lol) than kool-aid but mixed w/ grape juice it tastes good so its cool! :tongue2:
svtfocusman
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What is the reasoning for only using DTH 6 days a week?
I am about out on my first bottle of DTH (120 count of the 2095mg formula), just moved the dosages to 3 tablets x 3 times a day and currently my agression is on the weak side (hoping it will come in soon). Is taking it every day not advised then or just a guideline to prevent people from overdoing it?
I just received another bottle of DTH (120 ct. 1900mg formula), and some DTP. I was wanting to run the 'three kings stack' but am out of luck due to the unavailibility of Sunami. How would you dose the above to get the most out of it? I have always been a little weak on agression and am trying to get an edge to help out in the gym.
I am about out on my first bottle of DTH (120 count of the 2095mg formula), just moved the dosages to 3 tablets x 3 times a day and currently my agression is on the weak side (hoping it will come in soon). Is taking it every day not advised then or just a guideline to prevent people from overdoing it?
I just received another bottle of DTH (120 ct. 1900mg formula), and some DTP. I was wanting to run the 'three kings stack' but am out of luck due to the unavailibility of Sunami. How would you dose the above to get the most out of it? I have always been a little weak on agression and am trying to get an edge to help out in the gym.
Dcell22
Member
Both DTP n DTH supply aggression/mood for me, but it can be very subtle n it seems to kick in differently at different times (obviously since so many other variables n factors in your body/mind/day come into play). If I get any kind of caffeine in me close to a dosing of DT it's very evident lol. Your mind can play a big role in working to maximize the effects (idk if you have ever experimented w/ mind-altering substances in any way at any time- but anyone who does or has can tell you that your awareness n thoughts play a big role in how/how much you "feel" the same dose, simply reminding/suggesting to yourself that DT is in you n what it does will help! When I take a moment n take stock I notice increased heat n energy flowing through me that is simply not there when I don't have DT in my system, it's pleasurable n my mind automatically goes to an aggressive, elevated state, n I notice the the bloodflow n muscle hardness increase that is taking place throughout the day, for me DTP/H helps eliminate any type of depressive or anxious mindstates, it keeps me jazzed up n feeling confident), idk if this helps but hope it may!
svtfocusman
Member
Thanks for the info. I suppose I spoke too soon. I did not notice an instant result with DTH but after 2 1/2 weeks of taking it, it has finally hit. It is a very controllable agression and I also notice I have a very high confidence level with the stuff (feel like I am invincable and can take on just about anything). I am going to use the DTP only on workout days and lower the dosage of DTH down to 2 @ 3 times a day and see how things go. On the comment of the mind altering substances I would have to agree with you, I was expecting to feel an instant rush of agression which was not present. 'It' is there when I need it (I've always been relaxed when it comes to agressive situations, especially in the weight room when I had points where I was not able to get a rush of agression to push out a larger amount of weight. Yesterday I was able to push out a PR w/ the weight bench from being able to get in the zone and get the agression to push it out). I realize it takes time for testosterone numbers to increase and thats why I bought another bottle. Reading around I was expecting to feel an instant rush from day one which was never present (may be for some but was not the case for me). I will have to buy a couple more bottles to stock up and am highly thinking of buying some PRIME to run along side. The only question I have is on the reasoning on why DTH should be taken 6 days then 1 day off?
Chuck Diesel
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Because of the amount of Long Jack in it. Long Jack shouldn't be taken everyday, it loses its effects fast if you take it everyday (well depending on the dosage you take each day). I take DTH or DTP everyday but I dont use over 3 DTH/day (120ct).
BBB
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As an older builder I take DTP as a staple. I like the DHEA/Preg combo. I take it on a 2/2 basis daily and a 5 on 2 off weekly. It is the one and only test booster that I can actually feel working. I think it’s the DHEA. It seems to have a mild stim effect and also improves my outlook and attitude on life. I can't say that I have actually gained any direct muscle mass but I can tell that my strength is better while using it. All-in-all good stuff, I just wished availability was not so erratic.
Chuck Diesel
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DeEMaSsIvE
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Im taking it just like it says on the bottle... 3 on 1 off 2 on 1 off.
This is the third day i'll take it... so i cant say 2 much about it. but i can say the things i feel are verry diffrent from DTH. (it feels weird but good..)
This is the third day i'll take it... so i cant say 2 much about it. but i can say the things i feel are verry diffrent from DTH. (it feels weird but good..)
Chuck Diesel
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weird like what?
TheDarkHalf
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DeEMaSsIvE
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energized, hyped, and like there are little needles stickin in my ears and eyebrowes.
DTH just kicked after a week in and i noticed it cuz of the training intensity, pumps and i was getting a stiffy from the weatherlady on TV.
DTP is also giving me a sort of beta-aline feel (like the nos ether in the blue bottle) but then not only in my lips, but in my whole face... i like it
and yesterday's workout was the best i hade in months and i just stardet...
i'll try keepin up a little log...
DTH just kicked after a week in and i noticed it cuz of the training intensity, pumps and i was getting a stiffy from the weatherlady on TV.
DTP is also giving me a sort of beta-aline feel (like the nos ether in the blue bottle) but then not only in my lips, but in my whole face... i like it
and yesterday's workout was the best i hade in months and i just stardet...
i'll try keepin up a little log...
Chuck Diesel
Are you Diesel?
energized, hyped, and like there are little needles stickin in my ears and eyebrowes.
DTH just kicked after a week in and i noticed it cuz of the training intensity, pumps and i was getting a stiffy from the weatherlady on TV.
DTP is also giving me a sort of beta-aline feel (like the nos ether in the blue bottle) but then not only in my lips, but in my whole face... i like it
and yesterday's workout was the best i hade in months and i just stardet...
i'll try keepin up a little log...
A stiffy from the weather lady....hahaha.