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zombiemuscle said:
It'd be body measurements, body weight recordings, and exercise logs.
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IMO, bloodwork before and after would be better.

A non-hormonal supplement alone can't give you noticiable gains in only 4 weeks, and anyway, you can't know if you got it thanks to the "placebo effect"

Instead, the bloodworks can say you if that product is really doing something in you body.
 
JBerto said:
IMO, bloodwork before and after would be better.

A non-hormonal supplement alone can't give you noticiable gains in only 4 weeks, and anyway, you can't know if you got it thanks to the "placebo effect"

Instead, the bloodworks can say you if that product is really doing something in you body.
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I don't have insurance to get the bloodwork done... Measurements and weights are the best objective information I can offer.
 
JBerto said:
IMO, bloodwork before and after would be better.

A non-hormonal supplement alone can't give you noticiable gains in only 4 weeks, and anyway, you can't know if you got it thanks to the "placebo effect"

Instead, the bloodworks can say you if that product is really doing something in you body.
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Activate Xtreme is the only t-booster i've ever seen, I think, that had legitimate bloodwork backing up its claims. I believe MassFX got some university study done too but I haven't really read up on that. Part of the success was with the Divanil extract, but with the supplying powders found to be a much LESSER extract recently, I really don't know if it's still as effective. As a consumer I just refuse to buy any sort of "testosterone booster" that does not have legitimate bloodwork backing it. The "gains" a lot of users are seeing can be attributed to placebo, libido enhancing herbs, and anti estrogens. If I see a legitimate recent study backing a product from an objective source then I will buy that product right now. And keep buying it. I fully planned on trying ActX but with the divanil issues lately, I don't really think I am. The only product I'm willing to try right now is Dermacrine, and i'm not really sold on that either.
 
TxHomeGrown said:
Activate Xtreme is the only t-booster i've ever seen, I think, that had legitimate bloodwork backing up its claims. I believe MassFX got some university study done too but I haven't really read up on that. Part of the success was with the Divanil extract, but with the supplying powders found to be a much LESSER extract recently, I really don't know if it's still as effective. As a consumer I just refuse to buy any sort of "testosterone booster" that does not have legitimate bloodwork backing it. The "gains" a lot of users are seeing can be attributed to placebo, libido enhancing herbs, and anti estrogens. If I see a legitimate recent study backing a product from an objective source then I will buy that product right now. And keep buying it. I fully planned on trying ActX but with the divanil issues lately, I don't really think I am. The only product I'm willing to try right now is Dermacrine, and i'm not really sold on that either.
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look at my log of testopro-before and after blood tests are included.
 
TxHomeGrown said:
Activate Xtreme is the only t-booster i've ever seen, I think, that had legitimate bloodwork backing up its claims. I believe MassFX got some university study done too but I haven't really read up on that. Part of the success was with the Divanil extract, but with the supplying powders found to be a much LESSER extract recently, I really don't know if it's still as effective. As a consumer I just refuse to buy any sort of "testosterone booster" that does not have legitimate bloodwork backing it. The "gains" a lot of users are seeing can be attributed to placebo, libido enhancing herbs, and anti estrogens. If I see a legitimate recent study backing a product from an objective source then I will buy that product right now. And keep buying it. I fully planned on trying ActX but with the divanil issues lately, I don't really think I am. The only product I'm willing to try right now is Dermacrine, and i'm not really sold on that either.
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There are human studies on Testofen proving it increases free test in males.
 
thebigt said:
look at my log of testopro-before and after blood tests are included.
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Having a hard time finding it bro. PM me a link?

Also to the AI rep, I really don't care for quoting studies. I care if the product works, period. Most companies don't do the blood testing because they rely on hype instead. If a company had legitimate bloodwork behind their products I have no doubt that would be THE selling point. Instead most don't and it isn't.
 
thebigt said:
go to bb. that's all they ever talk about over there. to me bioforge's ingredients look very similar to drive, with drive being cheaper.
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I haven't tried drive yet mate, how was it for you?

Zombiemuscle said:
I believe there is a testofen equivalent in hard fx.
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Not heard of that one mate, how does it stack up against Phyto-Testosterone and TestoPro?
 
AK32408 said:
IBE's new PCT product, Beta-Max, has 6-bromo and resv. in it :D
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Thats interesting, combining resV with an AI. Like to see the logs on it.

The reason for 6-bromo is its bioavailability as well as its potency. FDA was worried about its breakdown under heat (??)
 
kingdong said:
If 6-bromo already works so good for so many people, wouldn't adding another AI just be a quick way to send estrogen too low?
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Not necessarily. ResV is a "partial agonist of estrogen" (whatever that means). It is believed it can reverse its behaviour if estrogens go too low. Thats why its an interesting combo.

Blood work on test boosters: HyperdrolX2 boosted my test by 50% (log)
 
matthias7 said:
Not necessarily. ResV is a "partial agonist of estrogen" (whatever that means). It is believed it can reverse its behaviour if estrogens go too low. Thats why its an interesting combo.

Blood work on test boosters: HyperdrolX2 boosted my test by 50% (log)
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Wasn't HyperdrolX2 spiked?
 
matthias7 said:
Not necessarily. ResV is a "partial agonist of estrogen" (whatever that means). It is believed it can reverse its behaviour if estrogens go too low. Thats why its an interesting combo.

Blood work on test boosters: HyperdrolX2 boosted my test by 50% (log)
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results on hyperdrolx2 aren't consistent, i was half way through a bottle of it when i was 1st diagnosed with low test. i've been told heat can alter it-i was using it in august.
 
matthias7 said:
Thats interesting, combining resV with an AI. Like to see the logs on it.

The reason for 6-bromo is its bioavailability as well as its potency. FDA was worried about its breakdown under heat (??)
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look at original reversitol.
 
TxHomeGrown said:
Having a hard time finding it bro. PM me a link?

Also to the AI rep, I really don't care for quoting studies. I care if the product works, period. Most companies don't do the blood testing because they rely on hype instead. If a company had legitimate bloodwork behind their products I have no doubt that would be THE selling point. Instead most don't and it isn't.
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Who said anything about hype. I said there are actual studies(not from supp companies)that prove testofen works. If you care not look at them or trust them than more power to you.
 
TxHomeGrown said:
Having a hard time finding it bro. PM me a link?

Also to the AI rep, I really don't care for quoting studies. I care if the product works, period. Most companies don't do the blood testing because they rely on hype instead. If a company had legitimate bloodwork behind their products I have no doubt that would be THE selling point. Instead most don't and it isn't.
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damn, i didn't realize testopro had gotten so popular. i couldn't find my log either-don't remember the name of the 1st log, but if you search-'adding testopro to test cyp' my 2nd log will come up.
 
UKStrength said:
I haven't tried drive yet mate, how was it for you?



one of the best endurance supps i have tried. it also will boost sex drive, at least it had that effect on me. very nice to add to a cut also-good leaning effect.
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thebigt said:
thanks bro-didn't realize there were so damned many testopro threads, lol.
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I cheated searched by username in the supp/review section and the anti aging med sections. Made it much more managable.:)
 
MAN so many great products listed in this thread

I would say all will work well BUT I must go with MAN Sports PrimalMale :D
 
learn said:
MAN so many great products listed in this thread

I would say all will work well BUT I must go with MAN Sports PrimalMale :D
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i had good results on primal male, i imagine a testopro/primal male/stoked stack would be wicked.
 
pembroke3355 said:
Sounds like a plan.:)
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got at least a month left on my myodrol/hypertest stack, but down the road a good possibility. already have the testopro and stoked is coming, all i would have to get is the primal male.
 
Ukstrength, the Sustain Alpha and Phyto-Testosterone AND Formestane sounds like an amazing combo. Besides boosting test, this seems like a potent pct. Will Formestane affect pct, or is this more for on cycle.
 
All I can say is Tetofen and Divanil are the only test boosters that worked consistantly well for me and I was very happy to see Testopro had both and really like the product.
 
DreamWeaver said:
All I can say is Tetofen and Divanil are the only test boosters that worked consistantly well for me and I was very happy to see Testopro had both and really like the product.
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It is a awesome combo of ingredients that work very well together.
 
thanks to all that replied, ive tried a few different test boosters with really no noticable changes...i just got off the LG Sciences Trifecta stack, and needless to say i was a bit disappointed so im looking for something new...i went to the dark side for a bit before all this and did a cycle of deca, and im not gonna lie, i want something that will atleast give me some of what that made me feel in the gym...so im gonna give TestoPRO stacked with stoked a try...ill journal this one for yall
 
provdman34 said:
thanks to all that replied, ive tried a few different test boosters with really no noticable changes...i just got off the LG Sciences Trifecta stack, and needless to say i was a bit disappointed so im looking for something new...i went to the dark side for a bit before all this and did a cycle of deca, and im not gonna lie, i want something that will atleast give me some of what that made me feel in the gym...so im gonna give TestoPRO stacked with stoked a try...ill journal this one for yall
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Let us know how it works out. If your talking about a alpha-male feeling in the gym yes this stack will do the trick you can also make some good gains. If your really hoping for a Deca type of strength gain you maybe disappointed as no natural product is going to give you the same type of gains as AAS.
 
rulk22 said:
Ukstrength, the Sustain Alpha and Phyto-Testosterone AND Formestane sounds like an amazing combo. Besides boosting test, this seems like a potent pct. Will Formestane affect pct, or is this more for on cycle.
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Hey mate, It's a pretty awesome combo :) We've already had great feedback on Invalid Link RemovedClick Here for Formestane Logs and Reviews, so throw in the Invalid Link Removed and Invalid Link Removed...you've got one HELL of a testosterone boosting stack! :D

Formestane would affect PCT recovery, since being a steroidal AI it has some suppressive activity of it's own. It could be used to stave off oestrogen-related side effects during PCT though as an alternative to a SERM protocol.
 
Great Thread!!

Heard nothing but rave reviews with TestoPRO.

Looks like a TestoPRO/Sustain Alpha/Phyto-Testosterone is next up on my list.
 
There are studies that show I3C to be anti-androgenic by directly blocking androgen receptors... I didn't want to believe this at first but some other members of this forum have pointed it out to me in scientific studies. It may help with estrogen metabolism and prevent cancer, but I won't be using it as a test booster anymore. Can anyone disprove this?
 
Bnatural said:
shouldn't be promoted as a T-booster, because its not.

It does block estrogen through different pathways and also helps gi tract
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One study goes on to say:

To examine the androgen antagonist effects of DIM, we conducted a series of cell proliferation and gene activation studies in androgen-dependent (LNCaP) and androgen-independent (PC-3) human prostate cancer cell lines. LNCaP cells were derived from lymph node metastasis, and PC-3 cells were derived from bone metastasis (22, 23, 24, 25). We found that DIM is a strong antiandrogen that inhibited androgen-dependent tumor cell growth and competitively inhibited androgen receptor translocation and signal transduction. In addition, DIM down-regulated prostate-specific antigen (PSA) expression at the transcriptional level. Results from androgen receptor (AR) competitive binding assays, nuclear translocation studies, and structural modeling computations suggest that DIM disrupts AR function in a manner similar to a chemically dissimilar synthetic antiandrogen, Casodex. Our results identify DIM as a structurally novel, naturally occurring, pure androgen antagonist of potential cancer preventive and therapeutic usefulness for prostate cancer.
 
Anyone used Iforce Testobolan V2 or Purus Labs Recycle.

Another question.
How effective is the Methoxy isoflavone is phyto-test? I mean i was under the impression it was all hype and useless compound... Anyone care to chime in?
 
xx Zues xx said:
Anyone used Iforce Testobolan V2 or Purus Labs Recycle.

Another question.
How effective is the Methoxy isoflavone is phyto-test? I mean i was under the impression it was all hype and useless compound... Anyone care to chime in?
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I've used phyto-test and it worked great, would work fine no matter what cuz of the testofen. As for the methoxyisoflavone... I'm not really sure. You might expect slightly increased nitrogen retention but nothing dramatic.

Furthermore, Hard fx by anabolic extreme has methoxyflavone (not methoxyISOflavone) which is supposed to be very beneficial. I'm on my second day of hard fx and feeling great. I tore apart a piece of furniture with my bare hands and feet today HAHA! Had to fit it into the dumpster cuz I didn't want to make the trip to the dump. I was dripping with sweat by the time I got that chair into 4 or 5 pieces. There were so many nails and splintered pieces of wood. I scraped my leg pretty good, but hell it's just a flesh wound! :sly:
 
zombiemuscle said:
I've used phyto-test and it worked great, would work fine no matter what cuz of the testofen. As for the methoxyisoflavone... I'm not really sure. You might expect slightly increased nitrogen retention but nothing dramatic.

Furthermore, Hard fx by anabolic extreme has methoxyflavone (not methoxyISOflavone) which is supposed to be very beneficial. I'm on my second day of hard fx and feeling great. I tore apart a piece of furniture with my bare hands and feet today HAHA! Had to fit it into the dumpster cuz I didn't want to make the trip to the dump. I was dripping with sweat by the time I got that chair into 4 or 5 pieces. There were so many nails and splintered pieces of wood. I scraped my leg pretty good, but hell it's just a flesh wound! :sly:
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Haha, alpha mate ;)
 
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