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bikeswimlive said:
I think calling it a PH is generous. About as mild as you can go.
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Technically its a steriod, which you could probably pick up from Walmart.

Neither neuro-steriods however are major contributors to test production. It may have boosted my test by 20% .. possibly. The common mistake :frustate: is to think Dermacrine's danger is shutdown.

No.

6-bromo in my hands boosts test much more.

Dermacrine's danger is adrenal fatigue if you're on it or 3 months or so.

PP is a great company but this product is my least fav. (finished 1T, running GPLC and BCAA from PP)

TestoPRO is the product of the moment.

The problem product at present is Davinill (which in TestoPRO) and whether the purity has dropped.
 
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The problem product at present is Davinill (which in TestoPRO) and whether the purity has dropped.
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Could you guys - particularly Nutra and AI - answer the question of Davinill's purity?

It states 95% purity. The rumour is this is now 5%.

Whatever the truth is I'd like to know and forums like this must work both ways - we help you guys out in product education but we'd like to know when if there's a critical problem in our supplement regimes.

AI did promise they'd look into this. I dunno the outcome.

For example will Nutra be restocking Davinill?

Will Nutra ever stock bulk I3C???
 
rulk22 said:
Ukstrength, the Sustain Alpha and Phyto-Testosterone AND Formestane sounds like an amazing combo. Besides boosting test, this seems like a potent pct. Will Formestane affect pct, or is this more for on cycle.
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I've not followed this thread the whole way through. I doubt UKStren recommended formestane with Sustain.

I wanna briefly stack these to check the effect, but its unpredictable and could be counter-productive. As a formal stack this is a NO. I'll go through why if an argument breaks out.

Eric (PP) position is that Sustain is not to be stacked with an AI. There're okay with folding into a SERM based PCT (although they say only exceptional heavy cycles - obviously SERM usage is controversial).
 
Imeniaan said:
TRANSDERMAL formestane. i use it from competitive edge labs and it is absolutely perfect in everyway; super strength, super stamina, increased libido (bigtime), i **** like a olympic champion on this, fat melts away, very tight body (increased definition), very good sleep. you can just feel the testosterone rush through your body. i love this stuff.

add in coconut oil and ginger extract and you will have the best testosterone boost ever.
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Ginger I do not know - nor understand. Coconut oil stacked into formestane is a good idea. Reps.
 
Okay UKStren did say stack formestane with Sustain.

I would do so cautiously. Sustain is believed to be capable of boosting estrogen if they drop too low. I'm trying to check this out but combining Sustain (resveratrol) and formestane IMO is unpredictable: estrogens could drop too low or the products could start conflicting with each other.

What I plan on doing is running form and then Sustain. I'm gonna overlap them by 1.5 weeks and check for adverse effects then.

UKStrength said:
Hey mate, It's a pretty awesome combo :) We've already had great feedback on Invalid Link RemovedClick Here for Formestane Logs and Reviews, so throw in the Invalid Link Removed and Invalid Link Removed...you've got one HELL of a testosterone boosting stack! :D

Formestane would affect PCT recovery, since being a steroidal AI it has some suppressive activity of it's own. It could be used to stave off oestrogen-related side effects during PCT though as an alternative to a SERM protocol.
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matthias7 said:
Ginger I do not know - nor understand. Coconut oil stacked into formestane is a good idea. Reps.
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isnt formestane suppressive? or is it only formex?
what benefit would eating coconut oil with formestane have?

thanks!


edit, just read the post before me. so it can be runned stand alone but not as pct cause the mild suppressive effect ?
 
matthias7 said:
IMPORTANT QUESTION



Could you guys - particularly Nutra and AI - answer the question of Davinill's purity?

It states 95% purity. The rumour is this is now 5%.

Whatever the truth is I'd like to know and forums like this must work both ways - we help you guys out in product education but we'd like to know when if there's a critical problem in our supplement regimes.

AI did promise they'd look into this. I dunno the outcome.

For example will Nutra be restocking Davinill?

Will Nutra ever stock bulk I3C???
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About the divanil, I've had much better gains on mass fx than testopro. Hard fx alone is doing much better for me alsoin comparison to testopro/stoked stack.
 
zombiemuscle said:
About the divanil, I've had much better gains on mass fx than testopro. Hard fx alone is doing much better for me alsoin comparison to testopro/stoked stack.
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I am a little confused here. Does either Mass FX or Hard FX contain Divanil?
 
matthias7 said:
IMPORTANT QUESTION



Could you guys - particularly Nutra and AI - answer the question of Davinill's purity?

It states 95% purity. The rumour is this is now 5%.

Whatever the truth is I'd like to know and forums like this must work both ways - we help you guys out in product education but we'd like to know when if there's a critical problem in our supplement regimes.

AI did promise they'd look into this. I dunno the outcome.

For example will Nutra be restocking Davinill?

Will Nutra ever stock bulk I3C???
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the real question is was it ever really 95%?
 
zombiemuscle said:
Mass fx has divanil, as does testopro.

Hard fx contains testofen, as does testopro.
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You would think something containing both compounds would produce great results, but not for me. I guess I respond better to anabolic xtreme products. Should be noted that I'm not stacking the hard fx with anything but TMG. And the mass fx use was in the past.
 
zombiemuscle said:
Mass fx has divanil, as does testopro.

Hard fx contains testofen, as does testopro.
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i believe most companies seem to be sourcing divanil from the same source.


btw-there was a big thread a few months ago where some guys were complaining of gyno symptoms from mass fx. not trying to stir up sheit just stating a fact.
 
zombiemuscle said:
You would think something containing both compounds would produce great results, but not for me. I guess I respond better to anabolic xtreme products. Should be noted that I'm not stacking the hard fx with anything but TMG. And the mass fx use was in the past.
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Yes that appears to be the case for you. Everyone I talk to has great results with TestoPRO sorry you did not.
 
Both will suppress.

Coconut oil helps test production, similar to olive oil - perhaps better.

Piledahlaren said:
isnt formestane suppressive? or is it only formex?
what benefit would eating coconut oil with formestane have?

thanks!


edit, just read the post before me. so it can be runned stand alone but not as pct cause the mild suppressive effect ?
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No its not suppressive enough so can be run PCT - complex taper though.
 
thebigt said:
i believe most companies seem to be sourcing divanil from the same source.


btw-there was a big thread a few months ago where some guys were complaining of gyno symptoms from mass fx.
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Guys allegedly got gyno on Tribulus. Different strokes for different folks. P5P? Fear of gyno is everywhere - OH NO *shock* reach for the ... no its just my nipples are cold.
 
matthias7 said:
Technically its a steriod, which you could probably pick up from Walmart.

Neither neuro-steriods however are major contributors to test production. It may have boosted my test by 20% .. possibly. The common mistake :frustate: is to think Dermacrine's danger is shutdown.

No.

6-bromo in my hands boosts test much more.

Dermacrine's danger is adrenal fatigue if you're on it or 3 months or so.

PP is a great company but this product is my least fav. (finished 1T, running GPLC and BCAA from PP)

TestoPRO is the product of the moment.

The problem product at present is Davinill (which in TestoPRO) and whether the purity has dropped.
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i was under the the assumption that preg and dhea would help/be good for adrenal fatigue. could u help me with this Matt
 
matthias7 said:
IMPORTANT QUESTION



Could you guys - particularly Nutra and AI - answer the question of Davinill's purity?

It states 95% purity. The rumour is this is now 5%.

Whatever the truth is I'd like to know and forums like this must work both ways - we help you guys out in product education but we'd like to know when if there's a critical problem in our supplement regimes.

AI did promise they'd look into this. I dunno the outcome.

For example will Nutra be restocking Davinill?

Will Nutra ever stock bulk I3C???
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i would be interested in this aswell.
 
thebigt said:
i believe most companies seem to be sourcing divanil from the same source.


btw-there was a big thread a few months ago where some guys were complaining of gyno symptoms from mass fx. not trying to stir up sheit just stating a fact.
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Never got gyno lol, and I ran 2 bottles.
 
wow wow wow, i went through this whole thread and never once saw the word
"Formadrol" this stuff is great, theres also a thread which includes blood work and let me tell you this guys test, skyrocketed.
 
matthias7 said:
Guys allegedly got gyno on Tribulus. Different strokes for different folks. P5P? Fear of gyno is everywhere - OH NO *shock* reach for the ... no its just my nipples are cold.
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this was a serious thread or i wouldn't have mentioned it. i believe it was texaslifter who started the thread, but it ended up being several pages.
 
thebigt said:
this was a serious thread or i wouldn't have mentioned it. i believe it was texaslifter who started the thread, but it ended up being several pages.
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Funny thing is that you don't know what other supplements these people are taking (gear?) and you don't know their endocrine abnormalities or drug abuse history. Too many unknowns...
 
zombiemuscle said:
Funny thing is that you don't know what other supplements these people are taking (gear?) and you don't know their endocrine abnormalities or drug abuse history. Too many unknowns...
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very good and valid points.:beerchug:



personally i have never used mass fx, so i am just going by what others have posted. your results with it have me intigued, even more so since you didn't get much from testopro. testopro just plain blew me out of the water-i had great results.
 
zombiemuscle said:
Limiting ejaculation to once a week really helps my strength in the gym. Great way to naturally boost testosterone!
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that would be like paying $200 for a quaalude, good stuff but not nearly worth the price, lol.:sgrin:
 
zombiemuscle said:
Limiting ejaculation to once a week really helps my strength in the gym. Great way to naturally boost testosterone!
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I think that has been declared tourture by the Geneva Convention as cruel and unusual punishment.
 
matthias7 said:
IMPORTANT QUESTION



Could you guys - particularly Nutra and AI - answer the question of Davinill's purity?

It states 95% purity. The rumour is this is now 5%.

Whatever the truth is I'd like to know and forums like this must work both ways - we help you guys out in product education but we'd like to know when if there's a critical problem in our supplement regimes.

AI did promise they'd look into this. I dunno the outcome.

For example will Nutra be restocking Davinill?

Will Nutra ever stock bulk I3C???
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Thanks for the question.

We had posted about in in the TestoPRO FAQ thread the beginning of March which I am not sure gets much exposure

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CROWLER said:
The problem is the standard. 1 testing facility says they have the correct standard another testing facility says they have the correct standard and they are not the same. The ingrdient Divanil is a trademarked item which we receive from DS so we will do the same as they did and change the label.
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so every product that says divanil is actually the same as what is in activate extreme?


i don't really care-whatever is in testopro worked damned good for me.
 
flightposite said:
i was under the the assumption that preg and dhea would help/be good for adrenal fatigue. could u help me with this Matt
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Good point FlightPosite, pregnenolone will help adrenal fatigue. DHEA will cause adrenal fatigue once you drop off it.

I presume that PP stack pregnenolone in to off-set adrenal fatigue at the end of the run. Otherwise its not clear why its there. Preg. could (slightly) boost estrogens or androgens.

Anyway I forget exactly how DHEA is blocking the cortisol response - it does. Blocking cortisol certainly boosts test but a sudden shift to zip cortisol once the cycle ends and nothing to take its place - that can be adrenal fatigue.

If you stayed on Dermacrine for 3 months - you'd need to run standalone pregnenolone to reset the cortisol levels.
 
The deal on Davinil is that AI are testing the stock. DS owns the trademark and I presume has a patent on the product.

Two labs gave conflicting results on the quantity/purity so retesting is in progress. That was smart thinking by AI. Basically they've hit it off by stacking fenugreek into Davinil and I3C is attempting to knock out any estrogen increase.
 
thebigt said:
go to bb. that's all they ever talk about over there. to me bioforge's ingredients look very similar to drive, with drive being cheaper.
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Bingo! To be fair, though, plenty of people run drive over there. But yeah, I think there are more posts about bioforge than even 'which creatine to take'. :lol: in other news, tomorrow .morning, the sun will rise in the west and set in the east, over a flat earth.
 
poison said:
Bingo! To be fair, though, plenty of people run drive over there. But yeah, I think there are more posts about bioforge than even 'which creatine to take'. :lol: in other news, tomorrow .morning, the sun will rise in the west and set in the east, over a flat earth.
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going to bb.com is like reading the comics, don't really learn anything but it's funny as hell.
 
:lol: pretty much. The other weird thing is the board is stuck in 2001 or something. There are still posts like 'just bought noxplode: pct needed?' and ' choose: sp250 or noxplode?!?' . I mean seriously, that stuff has been around so long, everyone has tried it, and a quick search turns up everything you want to know. You never see posts on AM about it, because we've moved on. They haven't. Weird.
 
Does anyone test their supps by smelling them? You can really smell the testofen in phytotestosterone and hard fx. But I couldn't smell it in the testopro. It smells like a pungent maple syrup.

I did however smell the divanil in testopro which reminded me of the chocolately smelling mass fx.

As for the DHEA and pregnelone... They may have benefits but like any hormonal supp it WILL suppress HPTA function. Bad trade off in my opinion for the lesser benefits.
 
poison said:
:lol: pretty much. The other weird thing is the board is stuck in 2001 or something. There are still posts like 'just bought noxplode: pct needed?' and ' choose: sp250 or noxplode?!?' . I mean seriously, that stuff has been around so long, everyone has tried it, and a quick search turns up everything you want to know. You never see posts on AM about it, because we've moved on. They haven't. Weird.
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what is pct?:scratchchin:
 
It stands for post cardio therapy, and it's the cutting edge in recovery and growth. It consists of a precise ratio of bananas to gatorade.
 
poison said:
It stands for post cardio therapy, and it's the cutting edge in recovery and growth. It consists of a precise ratio of bananas to gatorade.
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i prefer those lemon shake ups you get at the fair. mmmnn.
 
I am going to purchase either Purus Labs recycle, DS Activate Xtreme or Testabolan v2... but which one!!!???

Im guna try the testopro nxt month when i have more money for the swole stack...

Suggestions anyone???
 
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