EC vs Phentermine?

rtrocc

rtrocc

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So my gf is around 128 lb's at 5'3 and is dying to get under 120lbs. She claims to have achieved this when she was in highschool with phentermine that her mom gave her, but since it's a prescription amphetamine, I told her she shouldn't rely on it. Her diet is perfect, she lifts weights with me, and does cardio a few times a week in the morning. She's losing weight, but very slowly. We're going on a cruise in 3 months and she wants to be in the shape she desires. I suggested the ephedrine/caffeine stack and she wanted to know how it will compare to the phentermine she took. Can you guys shed any light on how both compare in terms of weightloss? I KNOW both suppress your appetite, but I'm concerned about the fat burning properties of both options. Any info is appreciated..
 
I've never used phentermine, but I heard it works and you will lose weight. Only thing is, as you pointed out unless she has a prescription she would be taking it illiegally. With the ECA stack she can buy the ingredients legally from any walgreens, rite aid etc. and we all know ECA works as well.
 
CopyCat said:
I've never used phentermine, but I heard it works and you will lose weight. Only thing is, as you pointed out unless she has a prescription she would be taking it illiegally. With the ECA stack she can buy the ingredients legally from any walgreens, rite aid etc. and we all know ECA works as well.
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Thanks for replying,

I had another question though. I see a lot of people claiming ephedrine sheds their pounds off like no other, but it seems like they are very obese to begin with. With my girlfriends situation, she's looking to burn off the last 10 lbs of stubborn fat so that she can see her abs. Will ephedrine help accomplish this, or is it only very effective for those who have a lot to lose?
 
It will help. For me personally I feel that thermogenics and weight loss products etc are the best for people who are trying to shed the last few pounds.
 
youre asking if caffien does the same high as coke,bro phen is like 10x stronger than 100mgs epherdra and 400mg caf.

one phentermine and you dont want to eat for 2 days lol,eca helps but you need to really eat clean and hit the cardio with it.

Id do 2 weeks on eca with a few days off and start another 2 weeker
 
skratch said:
youre asking if caffien does the same high as coke,bro phen is like 10x stronger than 100mgs epherdra and 400mg caf.

one phentermine and you dont want to eat for 2 days lol,eca helps but you need to really eat clean and hit the cardio with it.

Id do 2 weeks on eca with a few days off and start another 2 weeker
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I know phentermine is stronger, hell its a prescribed amphetamine.. but I wanted to know whats better for burning fat, not suppressing appetite?
 
ya iwould stay away from that stuff,just tell her to try the eca stack and see how that works out.

The part in the video about the chickens not being able to ever fall asleep is crazzy!!!
 
I see alot of women in my town getting it prescribed to them who are thin to begin with....my wife included. Last year i tried to get some for cutting(from the same doc)..he told me i do not need it (but a 120lb female does???????)..my wife went from 140 to 125 in 6 weeks last summer...but made her MOODY
 
Years ago I was 255lbs. and took a 2 month phase of ephedra, caffiene, and asprin. It was killer, I lost 35lbs in 2 months. I felt great, had energy, but didn't eat much. When I did eat, it was trash. I got to 220lbs and ran out of supply, couldn't find any other REAL ephedra. Tried some other kinds and had ZERO results. I am now at 200lbs., lost the last 20lbs. by working out and eating right.
I have not been able to find the good ephedra ever since. It was great, really helped me get a great jumpstart on losing fat and getting in shape. I have been eating right and working out since then.
I think the best thing about it was that it worked so fast. Two days after starting it I started to lose every day. It was litteraly just melting off, I would recommend it for anyone trying to lose fat, but like I said, I have not been able to find any real ephedra ever since.
mike
 
adeadbodyman said:
Years ago I was 255lbs. and took a 2 month phase of ephedra, caffiene, and asprin. It was killer, I lost 35lbs in 2 months. I felt great, had energy, but didn't eat much. When I did eat, it was trash. I got to 220lbs and ran out of supply, couldn't find any other REAL ephedra. Tried some other kinds and had ZERO results. I am now at 200lbs., lost the last 20lbs. by working out and eating right.
I have not been able to find the good ephedra ever since. It was great, really helped me get a great jumpstart on losing fat and getting in shape. I have been eating right and working out since then.
I think the best thing about it was that it worked so fast. Two days after starting it I started to lose every day. It was litteraly just melting off, I would recommend it for anyone trying to lose fat, but like I said, I have not been able to find any real ephedra ever since.
mike
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Primatene or Bronkaid.. both can be had for a few bucks at Walgreens, Rite-Aid, etc.
 
WOW really? Is it the same thing as the old stuff? I believe I was doing 20mg ephedra, 200mg caffiene, and 1 asprin tablet. I cannot remember for sure though, would the Primatene or Bronkaid be the same thing/stack?
Thanks alot for that info!!
mike
 
Sounds like she only needs to drop what, 10lbs?

Diet...exercise...

I wouldnt use the prescription to lose 10lbs. There are much better options for OTC fat loss, like so: Invalid Link Removed
 
adeadbodyman said:
WOW really? Is it the same thing as the old stuff? I believe I was doing 20mg ephedra, 200mg caffiene, and 1 asprin tablet. I cannot remember for sure though, would the Primatene or Bronkaid be the same thing/stack?
Thanks alot for that info!!
mike
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Yup... ephedrine HCL

Not that extract from the leaves crap.

They are asthma meds, and are on the shelves, not behind the counter.

Dose it the same way as you stated and you'll be good to go
 
epherdrine hci is very close to the old mahung we used to use,those old ones would mess me up hard,they had all the different isomers of ehpedrine in it.the stuff rfa1 used was unreal,it was like crack.

super dry mouth,no hunger at all,massive energy and at times I remember praying to god at night that I dont die(resting heart rate at like 130)lol those were the days
 
rtrocc said:
So my gf is around 128 lb's at 5'3 and is dying to get under 120lbs. She claims to have achieved this when she was in highschool with phentermine that her mom gave her, but since it's a prescription amphetamine, I told her she shouldn't rely on it. Her diet is perfect, she lifts weights with me, and does cardio a few times a week in the morning. She's losing weight, but very slowly. We're going on a cruise in 3 months and she wants to be in the shape she desires. I suggested the ephedrine/caffeine stack and she wanted to know how it will compare to the phentermine she took. Can you guys shed any light on how both compare in terms of weightloss? I KNOW both suppress your appetite, but I'm concerned about the fat burning properties of both options. Any info is appreciated..
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Bud

1. Phen is addictive after couple of weeks your body is adapt to it (NOT WORKING) and no matter if you take the max dose 37.5mg and the sides are BAD believe me so NOT USE
2. if you GF wish LOOSE FAT not WEIGHT start with a healthy diet and exercises
3. later you can add some ECA/ ECay if you wish to kick drop the fat
4.THE MOST IMPORTANT IS EAT YOUR 5-6 HEALTHY MEALS IF YOU WISH LOOSE FAT FOREVER



enjoy
 
get her some vpx meltdown, safer then the phentermine. and just get her to drop her carbs by a 1/3 or half and she'll get gud results.
 
Her diet is perfect, and by that I mean she eats 6 balanced meals, while staying in caloric deficit. She does cardio at least 4 days a week and lifts 5 days with me. She was losing fat, but very slowly. She's now taking some ephedrine along with OEP (for the required amount of caffeine) and is noticing visual fat loss. Thanks for your replies guys, I'll keep you posted with her results.
 
rtrocc said:
Her diet is perfect, and by that I mean she eats 6 balanced meals, while staying in caloric deficit. She does cardio at least 4 days a week and lifts 5 days with me. She was losing fat, but very slowly. She's now taking some ephedrine along with OEP (for the required amount of caffeine) and is noticing visual fat loss. Thanks for your replies guys, I'll keep you posted with her results.
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Great add this to the ECA if she tolerated:

EGCG ( is found in Green Tea BUT use rhe PP brand only 6mg of caffeine)

Coleus Forskholii (activating an enzyme called adenylate cyclase, which in turn tells your body to increase levels of cyclic adenosine monophosphate, also known as cAMP. cAMP is a basically messenger molecule that signals the body to mobilize fat from fat cells. Once fat cells have the signal to release their contents for energy, fat enters the bloodstream where it is burned as fuel, which of course leads to a drop in body fat levels)
 
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